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June 10, 2021, 11:58:08 PM
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personally i dont care with elon musk investing in bitcoin. before we have this man in crypto market , everything running smoothly and no one could playing market like this. just see what elon musk doing , he just shilling doge and make  fud to bitcoin. i think we could survive without person like elon, we will greater than in the past. elon honestly make people panic with everything he tweet, and unforunately we be a part of them. its become decentralized now when  a statement for single man could destroy price. 

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June 11, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
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If Elon was in control of those bitcoins, I am sure that he would've probably sold it already when the prices peaked but given that there is a board that have to agree with each other before deciding what to do, pretty sure it will be hard for Elon to sell the bitcoins.

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June 11, 2021, 10:52:24 AM
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Are we talking about Elons BTCs, or Teslas BTCs? One might be his private thing, the other is an official thing, that is in his corporate history and will show at the next earnings.  Think about it this way:
If he says, Tesla holds its BTCs and the he tries to sell those Tesla BTCs silently... He will be roasted by investors at the next report, right? And he would loose a lot of reputation as well... So I think the Tesla BTCs are still there, and being held. In case he had some private BTCs, who knows.. Maybe he even bought some fresh ones yesterday and made BtcUsd rise this way, in order to help his company Cheesy
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June 11, 2021, 12:39:28 PM
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I think Elon has been doing FUD only to buy the lowest bitcoin price because I understand that bitcoin prices can move very high at this time because the whales (including Elon) have accumulated bitcoin purchases at their lowest prices so to get FUD profit they need to do it especially when This name Elon is very influential in the crypto world.
and I'm sure Tesla's bitcoin assets are currently still holding because bitcoin is their investment instrument, and they are not stupid to sell at the current price.

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June 12, 2021, 11:03:11 AM
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Elon doesn't have bitcoin, his company Tesla has bought the bitcoin meaning that there will be some sort of board of directors that he has to answer to and have them all agree to sell the bitcoin.

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June 12, 2021, 05:06:28 PM
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Fortunately (or not), Elon Musk is a game changer but it's clear that people are completely done with his tweets and the way he literally manipulates the market.

Basically the situation is: now Elon is suffering extreme pressure from retailers investors and he is slowly losing his credibility (they have even created a "StopElon" coin), and from the moment Tesla does not accept BTCs anymore, the company basically owns a huge bag that guarantees a huge profit in the short and long term, but it is useless for practical use (Bitcoin is losing appeal and it's becoming a "Big guys's exclusive", without even taking into account the environmental issue that has now been exposed to the public opinion by Elon himself).

My question is, do you think that Elon is going to sell his 1.5 billion worth bag, or even a part of it, soon (remember that he already sold a part of his BTCs in April for a total profit of 272 million dollars), or maybe he could be a real hodler and he is waiting for the next run?




He has lost the credibility already and nobody care about his tweets anymore. If he like let him sell his holding for there are people who are ready buy all his holding in crypto currency. His influence on crypto currency has expired.

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June 12, 2021, 08:26:08 PM
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Interestingly bitcoin is such a huge market that even if he owns 1 billion dollars worth of bitcoin and he ends up selling them all at the same time that wouldn't really impact the price that much. Of course he could show that on his twitter and in that case it will matter a lot. Price is rarely ever impacted by just one person, it can be but it rarely ever happens, usually it is about people doing something and then it becoming a news.

Even a huge whale selling wouldn't change a thing, but a whale selling becoming news would change a lot. So, we should not be worried if he will sell or not, we should be worried if he will keep bashing bitcoin or not, because that is the important part in the crypto world. I personally hope he will tweet good stuff about crypto, I do not care myself but there are tons of other people who care about it and that matters.

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The criticism here is not of Elon but the news dynamic behind this, its the company which operates some usage of the asset in its reserves.  Thats fine and free for anyone to do, the part more easily criticized is the nonsense posted on Twitter by Elon quite often.   Thats where I'd point out its the market itself still at fault even if Elon is wrong in various things he might have said in either positive or negative influence, the market decided to buy or sell based off of one person.   
   The amount of hype in crypto is far too high, its like excess air and its inevitable it leaks out and the price deflates before we can continue, its even healthy to do this and pretty much this is merely a repeat of whats happened in previous cycles.    If I was going to moan about anyone it would be the awful system of government dominating China and doing its best to remove their people from any hope of freedom and free capital markets, of course thats the whole basis of their power regime but I consider that to be a far greater negative for everyone even crypto.

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maybe he already sold them all for $60k??? nobody knows,,
sometimes what he says on Twitter is the opposite of what he is doing, he is a great investor who has extensive knowledge of crypto.
This is what I believe, Elon most likely sold already his coins and obtained incredibly profits for himself and his company, now it is possible he has also took advantage of the dip and got the same amount of bitcoin and pocketed the difference , but my point is that with so much money invested in the market it is unlikely he is going to do something to negatively affect himself so he either already sold his coins or he was not happy with his stash and crashed the price to get more bitcoin.
Business minded person would definitely be having this kind of mindset on where they should secure profits out first before anything else.

Lots had believed that he had sold off those coins a long time a go when its not really still on loss. Does it really matter?

Its none of our business if he would intently sell off his coins because its his money after all and we dont have the right on stopping
him to do so.
It is true that he can do whatever he wants with his money as this market is based on precisely that principle but when he tries to manipulate the market in such a clear way then it is or business as now he is affecting others, now if this was just the consequence of buying and selling bitcoin then that will still be acceptable, but when he is making arguments in bad faith like bitcoin being a problem for the environment then we know he is trying to crash the price, probably to buy at a cheaper rate and earn even more money and that is incorrect.
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Fortunately (or not), Elon Musk is a game changer but it's clear that people are completely done with his tweets and the way he literally manipulates the market.

Basically the situation is: now Elon is suffering extreme pressure from retailers investors and he is slowly losing his credibility (they have even created a "StopElon" coin), and from the moment Tesla does not accept BTCs anymore, the company basically owns a huge bag that guarantees a huge profit in the short and long term, but it is useless for practical use (Bitcoin is losing appeal and it's becoming a "Big guys's exclusive", without even taking into account the environmental issue that has now been exposed to the public opinion by Elon himself).

My question is, do you think that Elon is going to sell his 1.5 billion worth bag, or even a part of it, soon (remember that he already sold a part of his BTCs in April for a total profit of 272 million dollars), or maybe he could be a real hodler and he is waiting for the next run?



First of all it's not Musk who holds bitcoin but it's Tesla who holds them. 1 thing I am pretty sure that they are not going to sell it off in losses. TESLA is already a loss-making company, A loss so big would hurt their financial statements so much that it might take them years to recover, and also the strategic thinktank of the Company will be criticized a lot for this mistake. So I don't think they are going to sell it off for a loss of even a single dollar. Moreover, I think Elon clarified in May that TESLA has not sold even a single bitcoin apart from their sell-off in the previous quarter which was for showcasing liquidity in bitcoin. And After that the price has never crossed TESLA's buying mark, so I am sort of sure that he hasn't sold any bitcoin from his bag of bitcoin.
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June 13, 2021, 09:02:35 PM
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First of all it's not Musk who holds bitcoin but it's Tesla who holds them. 1 thing I am pretty sure that they are not going to sell it off in losses. TESLA is already a loss-making company, A loss so big would hurt their financial statements so much that it might take them years to recover, and also the strategic thinktank of the Company will be criticized a lot for this mistake. So I don't think they are going to sell it off for a loss of even a single dollar. Moreover, I think Elon clarified in May that TESLA has not sold even a single bitcoin apart from their sell-off in the previous quarter which was for showcasing liquidity in bitcoin. And After that the price has never crossed TESLA's buying mark, so I am sort of sure that he hasn't sold any bitcoin from his bag of bitcoin.
If you take globally the automobile sector was struggling and all the companies had huge losses and Tesla is one of the companies in that category as well. First they had the circuit shortage and then the pandemic and they could not manufacture and deliver the cars as promised and these are caused by external issues globally and they were smart enough to overcome the loss by investing in Bitcoin and they have successfully booked their profit as well. They wont be selling the coins at a loss but they are leveraging the cryptocurrency market to cover their losses.
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June 15, 2021, 03:46:16 AM
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If Elon was in control of those bitcoins, I am sure that he would've probably sold it already when the prices peaked but given that there is a board that have to agree with each other before deciding what to do, pretty sure it will be hard for Elon to sell the bitcoins.

Don't think it'll be hard, the boards by now already knows he has influence on the market. Who knows, it could even be the board that ask for what he's doing now that's manipulating the market, he spread fud and decline the market and now he's begining to tweets some positivity again. It could be there have bought the dip already and now wanting him to pump the market for their selfish interest.

Do you think Elon knowing his board members will be hurts as a regards to the holding the company has and haven't sold then they he began the series of fud that he did few weeks back?, I doubt that.

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June 15, 2021, 03:51:34 AM
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He tweeted yesterday, that they are still holding 90% and only sold 10% to test liquidity. And that they will start accepting BTC for Tesla purchases once 50% of the electricity is used by clean sources. Some say this is the reason BTC kept rallying up to $40K where a day before it looked like it was going to break $35K and head for $30K.

So once again his tweets seem to be affecting the market. Another one is Saylor who first announced an $500M bitcoin offering purchase and today he announced that they want to dilute the Microstrategy shares up to $1B so they can use the funds to buy more BTCs.

Really curious what the stock price of Microstrategy will be tomorrow when the markets open.

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June 15, 2021, 12:04:24 PM
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If Elon was in control of those bitcoins, I am sure that he would've probably sold it already when the prices peaked but given that there is a board that have to agree with each other before deciding what to do, pretty sure it will be hard for Elon to sell the bitcoins.

Don't think it'll be hard, the boards by now already knows he has influence on the market. Who knows, it could even be the board that ask for what he's doing now that's manipulating the market, he spread fud and decline the market and now he's begining to tweets some positivity again. It could be there have bought the dip already and now wanting him to pump the market for their selfish interest.

Do you think Elon knowing his board members will be hurts as a regards to the holding the company has and haven't sold then they he began the series of fud that he did few weeks back?, I doubt that.
as CEO, of course, Elon Musk is the majority shareholder in the company and even though the company's board doesn't approve of Elon Musk's decision but as the majority shareholder he has the right to carry out the decision absolutely, after all it's very true as @zanezane said, of course selling the price bitcoin while the price is at its peak is the right move, because then at least the company will benefit from the sale of bitcoin made by musk, I think whatever speculation Elon Musk said in his tweet, it was one of the tricks he did to profit from crypto for both personal and corporate Elon Musk.

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June 15, 2021, 08:12:12 PM
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I still do not believe that he will keep those coins. Nobody sells 10% bitcoin for any other reason then just to take profit, plus 150 million dollars to see if it would impact the price? No chance mate, the price will only be impacted if he tweets that he is selling, if he doesn't talk about it and just sells ALL his coins then the price will not be impacted at all, 1.5 billion dollars is not a ton of money and it is not what we do not do to ourselves already.

You think going from 64k to 32k was without reason? I mean that is 50% and there were way way more than 1.5 billion sold and we had to live with that, now looking into what Elon can do, he could sell it all and it will be fine. Dude is lying about being pro-btc and he will definitely sell all the coins he bought under tesla name and I believe it is not going to be too long neither, he will do it before the new year comes.

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June 15, 2021, 11:54:46 PM
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Remember : Elonmusk is a businessman.  he definitely won't sell bitcoins before he makes a profit.  do you remember his tweet in early February about BTC?  btc immediately experienced a pump from 31k to 37k.  maybe at 30K it's BTC support without Elonmusk.

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June 16, 2021, 06:32:32 AM
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He has lost the credibility already and nobody care about his tweets anymore. If he like let him sell his holding for there are people who are ready buy all his holding in crypto currency. His influence on crypto currency has expired.
I thought exactly like this until few days ago where elon's tweet still more or less have such HUGE influence to the market.

we should stop denying that elon is still of concern for us and such a huge threat to the market but his recent tweet has helped the market to get pumped, it seems many are bearish because left unknown about the status of tesla holding in cryptocurrency.
to be frank, i'm even surprised how many people out there actually tailing tesla in financial decision. his influence combined with tesla's owned bitcoin is there to affect the market.

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~snip~

He has lost the credibility already and nobody care about his tweets anymore. If he like let him sell his holding for there are people who are ready buy all his holding in crypto currency. His influence on crypto currency has expired.

You sure about that? I don't think nobody cares for his tweet anymore. He has millions of followers, how sure you are nobody cares for his tweet anymore?
Just because we are talking about how worst Elon's manipulations was doesn't mean nobody is following him. There are still a lot of people who are actually waiting for his next crypto hype outside the this crypto community.
Crypto twitter has been flooded with toxicity.

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June 16, 2021, 09:37:50 AM
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I doubt it. BTC made Tesla more money than their car sales last quarter.
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I am really doubtful if he didn't already sell some of his Bitcoins. I mean his arguments against Bitcoin were weird and unnecessary (green enery etc) I always thought it was intentional move to force Bitcoin holders to sell their coins. When it comes to greedy corporates like Elon Musk I am always doubtful.
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