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June 09, 2021, 05:08:21 PM
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Im jealous That's Why im jealous of btc creators making money im jealous to them the satoshi.
Why are you jealous? I don't recall satoshi use his money (well, even if he did use it, we don't really know the exact amount of his withdrawal). It's not like he's being lazy and suddenly got successful anyway, he builds it from scratch.

Stop your jealousy, work on something productive instead. Creating controversial threads won't make you rich.

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June 09, 2021, 05:42:34 PM
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what is the definition of success, it is eaither reaching a certian goal or doing your best to do so, it can also be defiend as believing in somthing and defending it, and to many poeple bitcoin represents some of those ideas and in many cases it has acheived thier definition of success or yet they still beleive it will, and that is beauty of bitcoin it has many aspects and many points that unites a lot of people under one thing, whether its long term investment or short terms you get profit, or maybe you want to support the idea of non centerlized currency controlled by the govermment, bitcoin has all of those, and if you fail to see it than maybe in time you will.
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June 09, 2021, 05:53:24 PM
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Bitcoin is already successful actually. Amidst all of the cons you've mentioned like electricity and losing the favor of the government, bitcoin was still able to stand still firmly. It may also depend on how you define success, if you consider it as something that helps you as you persevere on it or it is something that gives everyone benefits as it goes higher in achievements. Bitcoin will has been and will always be successful and as time passes by, it will prove itself more to people why it deserves its position at that moment.
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June 10, 2021, 01:34:07 AM
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All has a pros and cons.

But may I ask, too. What is your definition for success?

If it is irrational then why you are still here and still a bitcoin believer? If you can see the bitcoin's previous history, it is literally developed and beyond Satoshi's expectations. You are just looking for other governments that has banned bitocin but missed other governments that already accepted bitcoin in their countr
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June 10, 2021, 01:53:50 AM
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If BTC as a store of value isn't a utility for you I don't know what fiat utility can be for you. The security of the Bitcoin network is hundred times secure than the banks you could praise a million times how is that not a success?

Firms are buying BTC and now that El Salvador is adopting BTC, fellow South American countries are possible to follow and this is a monumental success already for a very tiny country with a population of not more than 10M.

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June 10, 2021, 02:03:06 AM
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You probably don't see success because you are late or consider yourself to be late, if you were to be an early adopter maybe you would have a different view about it, government don't consider whether btc is pos or pow, this not the reason why they are cracking down on btc every now and then,  their focus is to prevent people from having control of their assets because btc as a decentralized asset gives that privilege,  what you mentioned is far from the reason why government is strict to crypto.

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June 10, 2021, 02:57:36 AM
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I just dont see success and likely government are Same rational and logically thinkers They Will ban btc.
Btc Mining takes just way too much electricity
Fees are expensive yet Still slow no segwit no lighting Network

It just dont smell like success.
The government isn't just a single entity for a decision to pass to law it must constitute a level of constitutional reading. Bitcoin isn't centralized. It doesn't have a central source and so therefore it can't be banned completely it can only be banned in some part of the world and this leaders would still be forced to unban it most especially when it has made tremendous profit

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June 10, 2021, 04:39:47 AM
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So you are basically an invalidating POS that doesn't even consider the climb of bitcoin from 1$ to 30k$ a success? That's a pretty high standard for a nobody like you don't you think?

POS is an oligarchs wet dream, why are the morons advocating, returning to a feudal-system?

POW is U own your own bank

POS is the rich, the people with the most BTC make the rules, why in the hell are the morons pushing poS?

Oh, yep that's right, the majority of bots on this site are paid to push POS, on the behalf of their owners.

Same as always serfs defending their owners, this is like slaves defending the plantation owners.

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OP correct title "As an Irrational Bot, I don't see how I can contribute to my Goals as a Paid Influencer"
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June 10, 2021, 04:54:21 AM
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Are you that bitter of not having any bitcoin? You don't think that there is any utility to bitcoin? So the 10k pizza by Laszlo didn't happen? Isn't buying goods and services a utility? What's your definition of utility?
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June 10, 2021, 08:41:53 AM
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I just dont see success and likely government are Same rational and logically thinkers They Will ban btc.
Btc Mining takes just way too much electricity
Fees are expensive yet Still slow no segwit no lighting Network

It just dont smell like success.

When bitcoin has reached the limited supply. no one will know what will happen, I just checked again on coinmarketcap now it has reached 87% of the total bitcoin max supply. bitcoin will be even more successful. it is true that your tought about mining is not completely wrong but if you look at the supply and demand thats will make it bitcoin worth it .
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June 10, 2021, 09:00:15 AM
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Bitcoin mining consumes too much electricity, yeah but it won't last forever in the end. Renewable energies will take the place of electric energy when it comes to Bitcoin mining. And this will change things a lot. Bitcoin is going to be adopted way easier thanks to this I think.

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June 10, 2021, 09:02:46 AM
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What is the success? 
If I would be the Banker and You as Satoshi Come to me ask to invest.? 
I have to ask what is the utility?


And When btc Will Move from pow to pos?
Or better If no pow or pos.

I just dont see success and likely government are Same rational and logically thinkers They Will ban btc.
Btc Mining takes just way too much electricity
Fees are expensive yet Still slow no segwit no lighting Network

It just dont smell like success.

Rising prices from almost $ 0 to $ 36,000 in 8 years is no small fact about the utility of Bitcoin.

Yes, fees are still high, but this is not a problem given that Bitcoin accumulates value and should not be used for payments and day-to-day transactions.

And have you ever wondered how much electricity and other resources are used to print other currencies around the world, or how many other unfavorable factors there are for the planet in the extraction of other assets such as gold and silver?
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June 10, 2021, 09:29:33 AM
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In a certain community, there are supporters are there are people that are against to it.
Base on your recent topics, you are against Bitcoin and you are posting threads and spreading FUDS regarding Bitcoin.

I think I don't need to answer your question not because I don't know but because I believe that everything has 2 sides. We are the people who are believing Bitcoin and people like you who are against it and since this is a free forum where you can say anything, you can say anything you want but don't expect somebody to believe in what you are saying especially in a place where most are pro-Bitcoin Smiley.

 
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June 10, 2021, 10:02:05 AM
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I see this person a lot here in the BTC board, even sometimes proving that stablecoins are the best. Cheesy
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@OP
You should just better be off if you really not into Bitcoin. Now would you excuse me, I gotta pay my bills through Bitcoin payments. At least I can USE it other than hodling it.
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June 10, 2021, 10:27:55 AM
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no one can deny the fact that bitcoin has indeed experienced success. but maybe there will be controversy from what point of view bitcoin's success is, because everyone can see differently in looking at what success is from everyone's point of view.

because more people interpret it, there will always be many differences that occur. because everyone can look at it from different angles and that is a natural thing, but which one means more and acknowledges that bitcoin has indeed experienced that success.
it is clear that many recognize bitcoin has experienced success because more and more people continue to trust and want to invest their funds in bitcoin, this is a sign that many believe in bitcoin.

In the era of technological development, we cannot avoid the fact that the need for bitcoin is urgently needed to cover the shortcomings that occur in fiat which may still exist and let them support each other.
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June 10, 2021, 11:57:11 AM
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What is the success? 
If I would be the Banker and You as Satoshi Come to me ask to invest.? 
I have to ask what is the utility?


And When btc Will Move from pow to pos?
Or better If no pow or pos.

I just dont see success and likely government are Same rational and logically thinkers They Will ban btc.
Btc Mining takes just way too much electricity
Fees are expensive yet Still slow no segwit no lighting Network

It just dont smell like success.

You ask where's the value in Bitcoin?

I ask where's the value of this post?

You seem to be asking others to validate whether or not you should purchase Bitcoin. Are you looking for others to push you over the edge to buy it that way, if you lose money, you can blame others as if "they told me to do it, it's their fault I lost money?" Otherwise what is the purpose of the post?
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June 11, 2021, 07:32:51 AM
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I think you become rational because of the negative effect of bitcoin in your daily life? I am very sure  you invest in bitcoin and get bankrupt because of the sudden dump on the price. Remember BTC is very Volatile and it is up to you how can you manage and handle it.
Or he never gets the benefits from bitcoin, so he says that once people can feel the benefits, they will try to earn more bitcoin and not stop before they can reach their goals.
Maybe he got bankrupt when trying to involve deeper in bitcoin and can not recover his money.
If he still trying to recover his money in many ways, I am sure he will see the benefits of bitcoin and maybe he will not say that.
But all in all, we can not blame him if he says bad about bitcoin because they will choose what they want and we can not do anything.

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June 11, 2021, 07:41:51 AM
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So you are basically an invalidating POS that doesn't even consider the climb of bitcoin from 1$ to 30k$ a success? That's a pretty high standard for a nobody like you don't you think?
With the rationale described by the OP the market shouldn't have flourished the way it has. The value of BTC is obvious - decentralisation, no more financial crocks, and no you wouldn't want to affect this great advantage by introducing POS over POW.

To me it sounds like OP doesn't know what he's talking about, just one dumb idea in an unfitting community.
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June 11, 2021, 01:06:00 PM
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If someone doesn't see the obvious, can they be called blind? Everyone has their own opinion. But know that we continue to make a profit.
Well everyone can have their opinion but that doesn't mean that we have to tolerate the ignorant opinions, they are dangerous and can cripple generations that do not care about people. Also OP, how do you define rationality because I think you don't exactly know what it means.

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June 11, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
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Rational, real people get caught into scams and lies all the time. Democracy doesn't define truth (although it usually gives us the best shot at finding it).

Bitcoin has already been wildly successful. There are many different cryptos trying to copy it. It has grown to new highs.

No one cares whether you invest. Do what you want. If you were a banker and I was Satoshi in 2009, I wouldn't ask you to invest because the network would speak for itself.

BTC will never move from pow to pos. It may not always remain as pow though.

BTC mining uses as much electricity as you give it. So, if regulations were to make it heavily taxed, it would adjust to use lower amounts of electricity. It uses electricity proportional to political need or greed. It can use a lot less and still work.

If you can't smell success, check your ability to smell.
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