VPN Related problem to Bitcointalk Account Registration

[Delightcrypto1]

I Realise VPN Need to be turn ON before the registration of any bitcointalk account, Due to this procedure to account opening, so many account has been devaluated and render useless due VPN Failure as a result unknown to the user that the VPN has been used in crime related activities. So many registered account has badges or restrictions that can't let the account be put to use and such a user may not be able to reply or quote in any forum topic.
This challenges has now make registration of bitcointalk account difficult mostly for the newbies and thereby also causing limitations to the population of people wishing to be long to this lovely ecosystem.
I Suggests if account registration can be done without VPN or either if the related problem above can be Minimize.

[Delight Media]

I Realise VPN Need to be turn ON before the registration of any bitcointalk account, Due to this procedure to account opening, so many account has been devaluated and render useless due VPN Failure as a result unknown to the user that the VPN has been used in crime related activities. So many registered account has badges or restrictions that can't let the account be put to use and such a user may not be able to reply or quote in any forum topic.
This challenges has now make registration of bitcointalk account difficult mostly for the newbies and thereby also causing limitations to the population of people wishing to be long to this lovely ecosystem.
I Suggests if account registration can be done without VPN or either if the related problem above can be Minimize.

This really affected me as at when I was registering my account. It occur to me several time. I have to delete so many VPN to download new one before I could be able to registered my account.... I urge the mod to work on that so we can have a traffic free to account registration.

[Charles-Tim]

Even, with the IP and some VPN restriction to pay evil fee before they can post, there are still many annoying spammers, if all the IP addresses and VPN are allowed, this forum will be full of spammers. Moderators do not just remove those IP addresses and VPN from not be able to post, but because most people that registered with that  IPs and VPN do spam. Paying an evil fee will likely make them not to spam.

[Delight Media]

I created several email just because I need to register my account. I download several VPN on till I came across VPN supper free WiFi. But even now that same VPN is giving me the same issue. Mod really need to be serious about the issue.

[shahzadafzal]

I Realise VPN Need to be turn ON before the registration of any bitcointalk account

I don't think what you stated is entirely true. There is some thing related to your IP known as EVIL IP. If you are talking about that then yes you have to pay some fee in BTC to use Bitcointalk if your IP is blacklisted. This can happen when you are using  shared IP.

Your IP address has previously been used for evil on this forum, or it is a known proxy/VPN/Tor exit node, so you are required to pay a small fee before you are able to post messages or send PMs. You can still use all of the read-only features without paying.

To explain more

People commonly say, "I haven't posted anything before, so why on Earth am I banned?" You are not banned. Your IP address was previously used for evil, so everyone who uses that IP address has to pay this registration fee.

[tranthidung]

This challenges has now make registration of bitcointalk account difficult mostly for the newbies and thereby also causing limitations to the population of people wishing to be long to this lovely ecosystem.
I Suggests if account registration can be done without VPN or either if the related problem above can be Minimize.

I guess you meant about evil IP points. Check a few topics

• Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images
• All Internet evil, mapped: evil score visualization 2

If you don't want to pay a registration fee / evil IP fee, you can try your luck with another account. Obviously, you must do it at other places, with different IP addresses.

If you love the username of restricted account, you must pay the fee that is not expensive. It is a privilege to join this amazing community in which you can learn a lot of valuable things. A small cost, if you are unlucky is not wasteful.

[Charles-Tim]

I created several email just because I need to register my account. I download several VPN on till I came across VPN supper free WiFi. But even now that same VPN is giving me the same issue. Mod really need to be serious about the issue.

Going through this difficulty before you were able to create an account, or if you pay the evil fee, these will help you not to violate the furum rules. But when one or two people know about the VPN, they will tell their friends, and many people will know there is a certain von that can by-pass not to pay the evil fee, as friends are telling friends, may people will later see registration simple, spam around and be banned, they will re-register new accounts, banned again and register again with posting of annoying repeated and other spams. The moderators will not have option again than to make people using the VPNto pay evil fee because of spam. If people are not using the VPN to spam, no evil fee will be included after registration before the user will be able to post.  

[bL4nkcode]

Using VPN or not doesn't matter. That still depends, on your country. If the previous banned spammers came from the same country you live in probably the same ISP used, or the same vpn server used as your country then probably that's the reason, also when using free vpn when registering.

[Charles-Tim]

Using VPN or not doesn't matter. That still depends, on your country

Only IP address depends on the country, VPN does not depend on the country, but if too many spammers are making use of a particular VPN irrespective of the country they are, they will later have to pay the evil fee after registration.

also when using free vpn when registering.

I am not certain about other paid VPNs, but if you now register with IPVanish, the evil fee will be required before posting. I have some people that used it recently, but the fee not required while using some free VPN, but free VPNs come with their own risks which makes experts to advice people no to use it.

[LoyceV]

Are you using your own alt account to respond to your own post?

The "units of evil" on IP-addresses are meant to reduce signups from spammers. When you say there's a problem to register many accounts using VPN, you should consider that a hint and stop registering more accounts.

[GeekWisdom]

What a fascinating method to avoid spam, but it seems come at a great cost, since shared IP Addresses are handed out somewhat "randomly" due to the nature of DHCP, one bad actor spoils the address pool. (any many bad actors from the same address range, really spoil the pool).

It's a bit like if I bought a product at the store, broke it, and returned it the next day telling the store 'It's fine I just change my mind', the store puts it back on the shelf and the next guy/gal get's the crummy broken product... I've been the next guy/gal..definitely frustrating!

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, what are you smoking?
You create a flow, and you start talking to yourself.
Have you read the neutral review I left you?
Do you really think there are idiots around?
I specifically confirm for the community that the OP has at least two accounts, and today he absolutely lost his conscience.
He writes and answers to himself.

1.Delightcrypto1
2.Delight Media

Proof:

Twitter Profile Link: https://twitter.com/DelightMedia2

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[hugeblack]

Regardless of the reason for creating this topic, but evil IP points are considered unfriendly with beginners and it is better to find an alternative solution to it instead of paying small amounts that the user may not be able to pay except because he does not know about Bitcoin or the network fees are higher.

Let's say, for example, that when I created the account and was banned, I would no longer be interested in posting to this forum. Those who will return are the ones who are looking for money from signature campaigns.

[LoyceV]

evil IP points are considered unfriendly with beginners and it is better to find an alternative solution to it instead of paying small amounts

From what I've seen, neither theymos nor the forum needs money. I'm pretty sure theymos would be interested in a better system, but so far none has emerged. If you can come up with a better solution, keep this in mind:

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.

[LoyceV]

but if I may ask is mod against anyone having two account

Having many accounts is allowed, but "talking to yourself" like OP did violates this rule:

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

It's basically a 7 minute bump, which isn't allowed either:

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours per thread. Bumping multiple threads at the same time is allowed if it's not annoying.

[Halab]

What a pity, but if I may ask is mod against anyone having two account. Because from your reply its show the user is entitled of two account

Hooo yes, what a pity. One, two or 10 accounts is not the problem. It's the crap you write that is the problem (0 value, necro-posting, multiple accounts responding to each other, etc.).
Start by setting up a single account in an honorable way and stop taking us for idiots because you are the stupidest spammer we have seen in a loooong time.
And your other accounts have already been spotted. Two of your accounts are already (temp)banned. How long are you willing to waste your time (and our time) ? 

[LoyceV]

Two of your accounts are already (temp)banned.

Ban evasion? Doesn't that justify a permanent ban now?

[acroman08]

Two of your accounts are already (temp)banned.

Ban evasion? Doesn't that justify a permanent ban now?

yeah, it should be. it is even stated in the forum rules. not only that OP is ban evading some of his alt has been necro bumping a month or two-month-old dead thread and mercilessly spamming meta.

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

[Pmalek]

The Evil IP system has more cons than it has pros in my opinion. The good thing about it is that it will stop spammers and scumbags who don't want to pay the fee from coming back to the forum. Unfortunately, it affects first-time users as well. There are cases where people have registered here for the first time and they were asked to pay the evil fee just because someone with a similar geo-location did something bad. It leaves a bad taste and causes newbies to give up on the forum, and possibly on bitcoin, before they even start.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Two of your accounts are already (temp)banned.

Ban evasion? Doesn't that justify a permanent ban now?

He was plagiarized, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57050646#msg57050646
after which there was no ban, but the signature was banned until June 10, 2022.
So he has fun and multiplies his bills.