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June 12, 2021, 12:00:14 PM
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Each project is different from each other. The early stage of investing involves high risks so it is not surprising to see a good discount.
It should be understood that in 8 out of 10 such investments you may not return your investments back.
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June 12, 2021, 12:09:01 PM
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This depends entirely on project and it’s marketing strategy. If they have thought this discount through then either their returns are high, they already have break even strategy or may be they know the project will that much success. It is completely fine if the discount is high and that does not state the success of project but puts you in thinking why would they give such high discounts.
If above reasons aren’t concluded by the management team then surely I would think twice about the strategy and then only invest.
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June 18, 2021, 01:04:42 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

It doesn't matter if they are giving a high discount in the pre-sales. Because for me my basis is the team and developer owner must
be transparent and their development must always be done most of the time. Though I am not saying all project doing this is not fulfilling
their plans of course that's not what I mean.
A 75 percent discount when pre-selling tokens of a new project to investors means that the team is not sure about the future demand for their token and thus is trying to stimulate investors. At the same time, investors, having bought tokens at a quarter of the price that will be set initially on the exchange, if there is no clear confidence in the potential of this token for growth, will strive to sell it immediately, until this token has dropped in price. Therefore, I do not trust the project and the team that offer such a large discount. Whatever arguments are put forward here, however, the starting possibility of such a token in terms of its price will be much lower than projects where there will not be such a large pre-sale discount.

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June 18, 2021, 02:23:52 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount
More discounts on the presale will leads to dump on the market price when it gets listed on an exchange where there is enough liquidity but you need to know another fact that most of those projects completed their presale with lucrative discounts never reached the exchange and investors are keep holding those tokens forever because even if they want to trash into an unknown address they have to use ethereum or other coins for the transaction fee.









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June 18, 2021, 02:45:11 PM
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I myself don't really like the presale of a new project. although it was done by IEO on a big exchange like binance.
Major sales will get more enthusiasm from the market when their presale is successful. even though the discount obtained is not as big as the presale, it can get better confidence from the community who joins their sale.

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June 18, 2021, 03:08:43 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Presale will always provide more benefits such more bonus or the price is cheaper than it should, but for 75% it is quite suspicious to me. and it looks like you are talking about ICO tokens here. better do some research before buying.
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June 18, 2021, 03:13:00 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Presale will always provide more benefits such more bonus or the price is cheaper than it should, but for 75% it is quite suspicious to me. and it looks like you are talking about ICO tokens here. better do some research before buying.

That's right, a bonus of that size for the presale will have a bad impact on the token price when the trade is opened.
how is the responsibility of the team towards their token holders when the bonus is given that big? they won't be able to control the big dump happening.
I'm sure it's just a team strategy to get money. and their project may not run.

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June 18, 2021, 03:13:17 PM
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75% off in pre-sale is too big and it's more like the project is looking for a way to get investors' money. I would consider going into a project like this if it didn't live up to my standards. In 2017 ICO projects sprouted up quickly and the price drop was quite attractive. Now ICOs are no longer relevant because people no longer like them. Being able to put at 50% off is reasonable for the pre-sale, 75% seems a bit too much.
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June 18, 2021, 04:31:14 PM
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Most of the time new projects are being scammed. Such projects are taking money from ordinary customers through presale and then scamming.
This is an old trick by the scam project. If they were offering non sense rate for the pre-sale discount and such token will have no value for sure. There will be no a high discount on the pre-sale when the project already got big demand from the market. Big discount = a way to attract the investors.
that means the creator didn't even wanna call its own token to be a valuable token.
I will always try to avoid any new ico that was offering non sense discount


75% discount can be catagorized as a scam. Why don't the creator make it becomes 100% discount

This is a scam token and i hope OP was watching this.

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June 18, 2021, 05:43:09 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount
I have always been against such huge discounts as this encourages dumping for those that bought that early, after all why bother holding a coin when you can sell it as soon as you can and possibility obtain 3x in the process?

Also it is very suspicious, after all a small discount could be acceptable, something like 10%, but 75% is simply too much and it gives the impression the developers want to sell their coins no matter what and this could be simply because they are scammers trying to get away with your valuable coins while you are forced to be a bagholder of a coin that will never have any value.

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June 18, 2021, 05:52:11 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

You are being far too vague. A $75 discount on what? $100 worth of tokens or currency? That'd be a 75% discount and highly suspicious on how much the actual cryptocurrency will end up being worth in the market. However if it is a $75 discount on $7,500 worth of cryptocurrency (which you should never be buying on an unproven project) then that would be a mere 1% discount to the price and probably not even worth consideration. It is all about context and discounts should really be irrelevant if you believe in the long term purpose of what you're actually investing in. Consider them a pleasant bonus but meaningless to the potential profit you see - they will only ever exist if you're able to cash them out.

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June 18, 2021, 06:15:55 PM
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Each project is different from each other. The early stage of investing involves high risks so it is not surprising to see a good discount.
It should be understood that in 8 out of 10 such investments you may not return your investments back.

Absolutely true, those early investors took a risk and invest into the dream of the project,  they were brave enough to trust the project and put money even at infancy stage,  so it is very likely that they will be compensated for their contribution because without their money the project won't kick off at all, between in some cases some presale buyers usually have a lock period, I have seen it done several times.

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What do you mean by this? 75% or 75$. If the latter, it depends on how much the token is but if the former, then it is quite high to be honest. I smell some pump and dump coins in here because it surely gonna attract a lot of investor to buy it for real.
In the end, it would still depend on the project though.
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Sometimes high discount presale also means those tokens will be lock for a certain period of time, not all project will give this high discount and release them at once just to avoid an outright dump from the presale buyers, given discount is to attract more buyers but sometimes this can be a disadvantage to the project if the team don't have a strategic plan to release the discount.
That's right. When looking at the tokenomics of a project even if the initial price looks good it's important to compare that to the vesting period and the release schedule.

I'm saying this as you could imaging a price of 0.01 but you'll be getting your tokens after 2 years. Obviously the decision on that depends on the type of project it is team, investors etc but it's an example to illustrate the point above.
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$75 or 75%? Because we don't know if the real price of the coins is $10000 and the discount is $75 I don't think that's a high but if it's 75% then it's really high. We are still not sure if this would lead to huge dump but the possibility is high of course it was a quick profit if that's gonna happen while the advantage of that is the project will be able to have money to improve more their project which could lead to price pump.

As a rule, the coins of investors who purchase coins at an early stage are locked for at least 1 year, and the maximum, from what I have seen, is 3 years. Therefore, coins purchased at an early stage do not affect the price for a long time. And the 75% discount is not so great compared to the price of the public sale, after which the price increased several times.

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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount
Which project you are talking about, for a very long time i did not invest in any project because it is obvious that the market price would come down once the coins reaches the exchange and even if i want to invest in them to stake or any other objective i have i will always wait for the coins to be listed in open in exchanges or in DEX rather than going after pre sale.
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most of the time, but still it's important to know more about the project's team as they will tell the reputation of the project as a whole. They are raising funds, giving a huge discount for early investors, but it's too risky at the same time so you deserve the reward if they succeed.

But like what I'm saying, most of the time it will dump when it's listed in the exchange, so DYOR, and good luck.

Exactly. Everyone who has been around during the ICO craze knows that 990 out of 1000 projects use these special early investor discounts to dump massively on investors who joined during later rounds. Also possible that they buy those coins themselves and then say there is the wallet from presale investors but in fact they sent their own money there to mislead others.

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Presale discount doesn't really matter too much because when it first starts it starts at not discounted price but drops to under discounted price level very quickly. So let's say you will start at 100 dollars right? You handle everything according to that and what you end up doing is giving it away for 50$ during presale, and even 30$ for the first 10k dollars bought, and rest just 50 like I said.

When the project actually starts, when it is listed for the first time ever, the only way is down, the price will go down under 50 bucks without a doubt, maybe the first few hours could be different but it will always be there in the end. So it doesn't matter if there is a discount or not, there is really no benefit for the investor at all, so why do projects still do it? Because it is better to do it then not do it at all and that is the type of marketing you need when you are the project owner.

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$75k? From what minimum purchase is it? What is the price of the coin or token?
High or not, it will depend on the minimum purchase, price, and also how good the projects are. And if we are only buying about $50, can it be getting the amount? I think that every presale or even token sale sometimes will give discounts and the discounts will be in the percentage. Moreover, there will be also differences in the prices during the pre-sale and another token sale. that is why we cannot consider whether it is too high or not because we don't really know the criteria and condition of the presale itself.

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June 18, 2021, 10:36:51 PM
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Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most common thing to un unknown projects, will definitely caused huge dumps after the launch. We don't know exactly what will happen next but really a failure of expectations. Investors would tend to worry in the long run, specially when there's no strong support coming from a project community. Survival depends on the holders who remain constant on their asset and not only having mindset of getting physical cash all the time.
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