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who is the wallet issuer
June 12, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
#1
Hello
is there any way to know who is the wallet issuer , for example is it issued by an exchange or platform or some mobile app. is there are a way to know who issue a specific btc or any other crypt wallet ?
Thanks in advance
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 12, 2021, 09:48:04 PM
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There is no way of knowing especially if the Bitcoin address has no transaction in it.
I know if one website that can try helping you Identify which exchange owns the address but it mostly reports old Bitcoin address and not new ones.
Also, not all addresses get identified but try your luck -
https://www.walletexplorer.com/
check here too incase you are trying to track a scammer -
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 12, 2021, 10:43:42 PM
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So you're looking for a bitcoin lookup tool that can know where or what wallet was the target address being generated?
There is no such tool that you can check the address of what wallet it was generated.
What exactly do you want to achieve?
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 13, 2021, 03:35:10 AM
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I don't get the "
issuer
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The addresses issued by an exchange is created from the private key of their bitcoin wallet software (
eg.: Bitcoin core, other software or their own implementation of Bitcoin
).
If you're looking for a way to tell if any random address belongs to an exchange or wallet, the one suggested by Bitcoin_Arena will work in some instances.
But not all services and exchanges are named, you'll mostly get "
Wallet [NNNNNN]
" names.
Note
: It doesn't work like there's an "
issuer data
" or something but using "
Blockchain Analysis
" so the result you get can be false specially if the address was a part of a
"
CoinJoin
" transaction
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Quote from: pop71 on June 12, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
note: I already know about
https://bitcoinwhoswho.com/
Sometimes, I can't access the site but AFAIK, it used walletexplorer.com's API for the "
Wallet Name
" field. But now it always blank "-".
The "
Tags
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so you shouldn't trust that site's tags fully
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 13, 2021, 05:38:51 AM
#5
There's no direct method to do that, you can just make exclusions. For example, if the transaction is a (possible) coinjoin one, you know that the wallet can't be Exodus, because it hasn't implemented it.
But, you can't know the exchange of the receiving address. You may have seen some twitter accounts that post whale transactions; if you've noticed it, they usually don't know the receiver, but the sender:
The
walletexplorer
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 13, 2021, 09:25:24 AM
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Using heuristics to determine the wallet owner or whoever it is associated with is fundamentally flawed. They guess the sites that the addresses belongs to by analyzing the transaction paths, for e.g. consolidating them into a single address used by a known service. Mimicking certain behavior of wallets or exchange can mislead the websites into grouping it into the same category as those services. I would take the results with a grain of salt.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 13, 2021, 03:37:17 PM
#7
Your question is too generic to be answered precisely.
What exactly do you want to find out? And what are you trying to achieve with that piece of information?
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 13, 2021, 07:37:05 PM
#8
Due to bitcoin being pseudonymous and the astronomical number of addresses that can be generated, there is no easy way to link an address or wallet to its issuer.
Some tools like the one you provided and WalletExplorer use multiple techniques to determine the owner of a wallet or to flag addresses belonging to the same wallet.
For example if two addresses have been used as inputs in the same transaction then there is a high chance they belong to the same wallet.
Identifying wallets belonging to exchanges and similar services is a bit easier due to the way they work. They consolidate inputs regularly, move coins from hot wallets to cold wallets (some of them are already known), use batch payments..
But if a user is careful enough and leaves no traces behind him, it's almost impossible to which addresses he uses.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 14, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
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Quote from: xenon131 on June 14, 2021, 10:01:48 AM
You curiosity may be fulfilled by
walletexplorer
site. On the front page of that site there are plenty of links to services including those relevant to exchanges. Those links lead to wallets created by services. Following the link of your interest you may find what are you looking for.
95% of the time Wallet Explorer will not be able to identify the address as belonging to an exchange because
i) it is new or barely used,
ii) the exchange is not sending its change back to another address in its wallet "cluster", which is particularly the case for hot wallets since custom exchange software
does not
use standard wallet types with HD derived address/privkeys, and
iii) all Wallet Explorer can do is group different addresses together, it cannot use external information to ID an exchange based on a particular cluster of wallet addresses.
To get any real chance of ID'ing an address to a person/business, the only way is to use a forensics service such as Chainalysis.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
June 14, 2021, 10:41:37 PM
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Quote from: NotATether on June 14, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
ii) the exchange is not sending its change back to another address in its wallet "cluster", which is particularly the case for hot wallets since custom exchange software
does not
use standard wallet types with HD derived address/privkeys, and
HD addresses doesn't matter, they look the same as any other address and it is impossible to determine if they're with the same HD seeds.
Some exchanges don't publicly reveal their hot wallet addresses anymore or just use several unique ones. Tracing the path of your deposit or the inputs to your withdrawal should be sufficient to check if it likely belongs to an exchange or not.
Quote from: NotATether on June 14, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
iii) all Wallet Explorer can do is group different addresses together, it cannot use external information to ID an exchange based on a particular cluster of wallet addresses.
Wallet explorer usually have a set of addresses that are known to belong to the services and determine the link through associating it with the cluster of addresses. If a known address is within that cluster, it'll probably associate the cluster with that service.
From my experience, it was able to positively identify quite a few services though and the success rate was pretty high as well.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 07, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
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Hi, i have Coinbase wallet installed but keep wondering where all these unknown payments suddenly came from every now & then?
https://pasteboard.co/KeLw0uy.jpg
Very curious as i'm still learning about how blockchain technology works & complicated it can be. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks!
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 07, 2021, 10:53:25 AM
#12
Apologies. I actually intended to create a new thread with regards to my question but there was an error for some reason.
I mean, i don't remember remember if someone tried to send me crypto.
A few days ago, i received payment again:
https://pasteboard.co/KeLRXRb.jpg
When i clicked "View on BTC.com", this is what i got:
https://pasteboard.co/KeLSOMq.jpg
https://pasteboard.co/KeLThJF.jpg
Quote from: ETFbitcoin on August 07, 2021, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: freedom-strike on August 07, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
Hi, i have Coinbase wallet installed but keep wondering where all these unknown payments suddenly came from every now & then?
https://pasteboard.co/KeLw0uy.jpg
Since the amount is higher than dust threshold, at least the purpose isn't advertising or weaken your privacy. But there's no way to determine who's the sender without additional information. Why don't you try to remember if someone plan to send you Bitcoin.
P.S. if you have additional question, please make new thread instead and provide more info if possible.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 07, 2021, 11:42:18 AM
#13
Bitcoin is pseudonymous meaning you will not be able to trace the owner of the address unless they have revealed their identify and connected it to their address. I think that is what you mean by "issuer"? If you mean the developers that have developed the wallet software then for Bitcoin Core that is the main Bitcoin developers.
You can start a new topic when you have wait for the cooldown between logging in and posting. I cannot remember what the cooldown is but when you try and post a topic it should tell you.
Quote from: freedom-strike on August 07, 2021, 10:00:05 AM
Hi, i have Coinbase wallet installed but keep wondering where all these unknown payments suddenly came from every now & then?
Very curious as i'm still learning about how blockchain technology works & complicated it can be. Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks!
The only way you receive Bitcoin is if you have given that address to someone else. Receiving a random payment is close to impossible because of the length of a Bitcoin address is not something someone could randomly guess.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 07, 2021, 12:28:06 PM
#14
From all the screenshots i provided, means i won't know at at all who gave the sudden payments?
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 08, 2021, 04:19:03 AM
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Quote from: freedom-strike on August 07, 2021, 12:28:06 PM
From all the screenshots i provided, means i won't know at at all who gave the sudden payments?
Are those being received from the same address?
I'm thinking that you may have left the address as a withdrawal address on a 'BTC faucet'
or an 'altcoin mining service that pays in BTC' that has auto-withdrawal feature and it may be profit from your referral(s).
I can't think of any other passive BTC income that a user can forget that easily.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 08, 2021, 11:27:21 PM
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Those are not paid from the same address everytime, it seems.
But i can't recall when and it seems like it isn't only for Bitcoin but other crypto as well that is receiving the sudden payments.
Quote from: nc50lc on August 08, 2021, 04:19:03 AM
Quote from: freedom-strike on August 07, 2021, 12:28:06 PM
From all the screenshots i provided, means i won't know at at all who gave the sudden payments?
Are those being received from the same address?
I'm thinking that you may have left the address as a withdrawal address on a 'BTC faucet'
or an 'altcoin mining service that pays in BTC' that has auto-withdrawal feature and it may be profit from your referral(s).
I can't think of any other passive BTC income that a user can forget that easily.
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 09, 2021, 04:36:31 AM
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Quote from: freedom-strike on August 08, 2021, 11:27:21 PM
But i can't recall when and it seems like it isn't only for Bitcoin but other crypto as well that is receiving the sudden payments.
Maybe you have referrals in "
Coinbase Earn
"?
Here's the help center article about it:
Coinbase Help Center->Getting started->Coinbase Earn
But if you're positive that you shouldn't be receiving any transactions, then start investigating if you're really using Coinbase app
and not a fake app where a scammer is in control of the wallet and just waiting for you to deposit a relatively large amount.
These are the links to the correct app:
Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinbase.android
IOS:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/coinbase-buy-sell-bitcoin/id886427730
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 09, 2021, 07:38:35 AM
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I use Coinbase earn but don't recall giving out my referral link.
I mean, anyone else using Coinbase wallet getting these unknown transactions like myself? Don't tell me Coinbase chooses to pay out randomly?
Quote from: nc50lc on August 09, 2021, 04:36:31 AM
Quote from: freedom-strike on August 08, 2021, 11:27:21 PM
But i can't recall when and it seems like it isn't only for Bitcoin but other crypto as well that is receiving the sudden payments.
Maybe you have referrals in "
Coinbase Earn
"?
Here's the help center article about it:
Coinbase Help Center->Getting started->Coinbase Earn
But if you're positive that you shouldn't be receiving any transactions, then start investigating if you're really using Coinbase app
and not a fake app where a scammer is in control of the wallet and just waiting for you to deposit a relatively large amount.
These are the links to the correct app:
Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinbase.android
IOS:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/coinbase-buy-sell-bitcoin/id886427730
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 09, 2021, 09:40:11 AM
#19
Quote from: freedom-strike on August 09, 2021, 07:38:35 AM
I use Coinbase earn but don't recall giving out my referral link.
I mean, anyone else using Coinbase wallet getting these unknown transactions like myself? Don't tell me Coinbase chooses to pay out randomly?
I stopped using Coinbase years ago but as I can recall, I didn't received any random transactions
and it's highly unlikely that anyone would experience that unless it's the usual "
dust deanonymization attack
" (
dust attack info
).
But the amounts you've been receiving look like considerably good amounts and the usual targets are mostly already known addresses.
Other than those two that I've mentioned (
plus the possibility of a fake wallet
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Re: who is the wallet issuer
August 09, 2021, 11:20:41 AM
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I just do not want it to be a case of money sent wrongly. In the first place, i shouldn't even be cashing out money from some random, unknown source.
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