^^^ You just haven't gone far enough.

[BADecker]

Some people just can't take looking at the truth. So, they delete it. Some joker couldn't take this on his/her thread, so he deleted it. Too close to the truth, I guess.

It is in human nature to look for validation and support of our ideas. I don't really know why, but we try to find people who think like us. And if we face too much confrontation we get into a defensive mode. Deleting a thread is probably just because he doesn't want to be reminded that so many other people have the opposite opinion and might make fun of him for it. Having freedom of speech also means that we will have a lot of different opinions and need to argue from time to time to find a middle way.

Good points. But truth only fits opinions that are right.

[Tash]

Like Idi Amin (one of the most brutal despots the world has seen, was Ugandan president) said
 "There is freedom of speech, but i cannot guarantee freedom after speech"

In case anyone wants to have a quick glimpses of Guantanamo Bay with the Military tribunal room towards the end of video
https://youtu.be/T99E3QvRoHA

[BADecker]

Like Idi Amin (one of the most brutal despots the world has seen, was Ugandan president) said
 "There is freedom of speech, but i cannot guarantee freedom after speech"

In case anyone wants to have a quick glimpses of Guantanamo Bay with the Military tribunal room towards the end of video
https://youtu.be/T99E3QvRoHA

However, in the USA, freedom of speech is such without repercussions... the First Amendment. The reason the courts win adjudications against free speech users is that they bypass the free speech idea, and hit the person with something else, and then apply the hit to the man after it hits the person.

[Cnut237]

The problem with this thread title is that it has a floating context depending on which thread people post to at which times... and it can look kind of weird.

[BADecker]

The problem with this thread title is that it has a floating context depending on which thread people post to at which times... and it can look kind of weird.

So that's it. Hey, man, don't take this so seriously. Depending on what you are smoking, your ability to distinguish between things will probably work itself out when you stop smoking.

[Cnut237]

Hey, man, don't take this so seriously.

But... I always take things seriously. I just can't help it.

Sorry, I hadn't realised this was another joke thread. But I should have, based on the below. I can tailor my future replies accordingly, if you wish?

First, there is no Covid...

Not true.

the 2 million dead is a lie.

Not really a lie, just outdated. Global total is now approaching 4 million.

there are other things that work better than Budesonide

This one is true!

Covid is a vitamin D deficiency

Not true.

So we have the Covid medical lie killing off some people during the flu season, because it was only the flu.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie killing off loads of people because it was a simple v-D deficiency.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie of ventilators killing off loads of people when simple oxygen would have saved many.

No idea what you're talking about.

And we have the Covid medical lie of not using all kinds of other standard meds, killing off loads of people

Not true.

in Africa [...] they barely had any Covid deaths.

Not true.

And the biggest medical lie of all is that the Covid vaccine has any effect on protecting people from what they call Covid

Not true.

And on top of that, it seems that the USA and the UK are places where the lying part of the medical has more freedom than the truth-telling part of medical.

You mean, if you don't like the facts, then you have to scour the darkest, weirdest corners of the internet, where struck-off ex-professionals and other discredited individuals reside, in order to find "facts" that agree with your pre-established conclusion?

[BADecker]

Hey, man, don't take this so seriously.

But... I always take things seriously. I just can't help it.

Sorry, I hadn't realised this was another joke thread. But I should have, based on the below. I can tailor my future replies accordingly, if you wish?

First, there is no Covid...

Not true.

the 2 million dead is a lie.

Not really a lie, just outdated. Global total is now approaching 4 million.

there are other things that work better than Budesonide

This one is true!

Covid is a vitamin D deficiency

Not true.

So we have the Covid medical lie killing off some people during the flu season, because it was only the flu.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie killing off loads of people because it was a simple v-D deficiency.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie of ventilators killing off loads of people when simple oxygen would have saved many.

No idea what you're talking about.

And we have the Covid medical lie of not using all kinds of other standard meds, killing off loads of people

Not true.

in Africa [...] they barely had any Covid deaths.

Not true.

And the biggest medical lie of all is that the Covid vaccine has any effect on protecting people from what they call Covid

Not true.

And on top of that, it seems that the USA and the UK are places where the lying part of the medical has more freedom than the truth-telling part of medical.

You mean, if you don't like the facts, then you have to scour the darkest, weirdest corners of the internet, where struck-off ex-professionals and other discredited individuals reside, in order to find "facts" that agree with your pre-established conclusion?

I'm starting to understand at least a little about your seriousness. You seem to seriously consider your ignorance as something that you must bolster. I don't know this for sure. But it's something that you are coming along quite well in this direction.

It's okay, man. It's way more comfortable for anybody to remain in the matrix. Go ahead. Remain a slave, and turn your energies to supporting lies. But the end for you will be destruction... Revelation 21:8:

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

But destruction for you is good... if you don't change. We don't want liars in Heaven, and neither does our Father. So, consider things very seriously.

[Natsuu]

Hey, man, don't take this so seriously.

But... I always take things seriously. I just can't help it.

Sorry, I hadn't realised this was another joke thread. But I should have, based on the below. I can tailor my future replies accordingly, if you wish?

First, there is no Covid...

Not true.

the 2 million dead is a lie.

Not really a lie, just outdated. Global total is now approaching 4 million.

there are other things that work better than Budesonide

This one is true!

Covid is a vitamin D deficiency

Not true.

So we have the Covid medical lie killing off some people during the flu season, because it was only the flu.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie killing off loads of people because it was a simple v-D deficiency.

Not true.

And we have the Covid medical lie of ventilators killing off loads of people when simple oxygen would have saved many.

No idea what you're talking about.

And we have the Covid medical lie of not using all kinds of other standard meds, killing off loads of people

Not true.

in Africa [...] they barely had any Covid deaths.

Not true.

And the biggest medical lie of all is that the Covid vaccine has any effect on protecting people from what they call Covid

Not true.

And on top of that, it seems that the USA and the UK are places where the lying part of the medical has more freedom than the truth-telling part of medical.

You mean, if you don't like the facts, then you have to scour the darkest, weirdest corners of the internet, where struck-off ex-professionals and other discredited individuals reside, in order to find "facts" that agree with your pre-established conclusion?

I'm starting to understand at least a little about your seriousness. You seem to seriously consider your ignorance as something that you must bolster. I don't know this for sure. But it's something that you are coming along quite well in this direction.

It's okay, man. It's way more comfortable for anybody to remain in the matrix. Go ahead. Remain a slave, and turn your energies to supporting lies. But the end for you will be destruction... Revelation 21:8:

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

But destruction for you is good... if you don't change. We don't want liars in Heaven, and neither does our Father. So, consider things very seriously.

I will literally laugh really hard, if someone like you didn't even pass the trials to enter heaven xD

Imagine deliberately spouting bible verses in these kind of conversation, but in the end, you end up in hell. KEKW

[BADecker]

I will literally laugh really hard, if someone like you didn't even pass the trials to enter heaven xD

Imagine deliberately spouting bible verses in these kind of conversation, but in the end, you end up in hell. KEKW

You won't be laughing when you find that it is you down there. But we don't really want that for either of us, do we? So...

To be fair, what does it take to get to Heaven? Simple question. There are only a handful of things. What do you think they are?

[tvbcof]

...

To be fair, what does it take to get to Heaven? Simple question. There are only a handful of things. What do you think they are?

Having a rich family who can give the priest some money to get your soul out of purgatory?  Some of the scamary around religion makes the covaids scammers look honest.

That said, it is pretty evident to me that at this time people who have 'faith in Christ' or whatever seem to be correlated with those who have the confidence to buck the new-age religion of scientism.  And it almost never seems that such people are motivated by money...nor do they seem animated by support from any formal established Christian church either I must say.  Not the '501' ones for sure.

[BADecker]

...

To be fair, what does it take to get to Heaven? Simple question. There are only a handful of things. What do you think they are?

Having a rich family who can give the priest some money to get your soul out of purgatory?  Some of the scamary around religion makes the covaids scammers look honest.

That said, it is pretty evident to me that at this time people who have 'faith in Christ' or whatever seem to be correlated with those who have the confidence to buck the new-age religion of scientism.  And it almost never seems that such people are motivated by money...nor do they seem animated by support from any formal established Christian church either I must say.  Not the '501' ones for sure.

- At the resurrection there will be a formal judgment that simply shows the judgment the people set on themselves here on earth by the time they died.
- Points in a judgment towards Heaven include:
- - Faith that God exists.
- - Understanding that people made mistakes before God (sinned).
- - Faith in Jesus pain and death and resurrection, and forgiveness for all mistakes made.
- - At least a little sincere doing of good works based on faith in Jesus.
- What a person believes and does in life determines his position in the resurrection.
- Only God can judge if there was enough faith for Heaven.

That's approximately it, except to say that God wishes that everyone were saved for Heaven, and so He will judge all the circumstances of everybody as innocent until proven guilty, with the best Heavenward construction on everything. But, God is also just, right to the point of dividing "soul and spirit, joints and marrow" to make the right judgment.

[tvbcof]

...

To be fair, what does it take to get to Heaven? Simple question. There are only a handful of things. What do you think they are?

Having a rich family who can give the priest some money to get your soul out of purgatory?  Some of the scamary around religion makes the covaids scammers look honest.

That said, it is pretty evident to me that at this time people who have 'faith in Christ' or whatever seem to be correlated with those who have the confidence to buck the new-age religion of scientism.  And it almost never seems that such people are motivated by money...nor do they seem animated by support from any formal established Christian church either I must say.  Not the '501' ones for sure.

- At the resurrection there will be a formal judgment that simply shows the judgment the people set on themselves here on earth by the time they died.
- Points in a judgment towards Heaven include:
- - Faith that God exists.
- - Understanding that people made mistakes before God (sinned).
- - Faith in Jesus pain and death and resurrection, and forgiveness for all mistakes made.
- - At least a little sincere doing of good works based on faith in Jesus.
- What a person believes and does in life determines his position in the resurrection.
- Only God can judge if there was enough faith for Heaven.

That's approximately it, except to say that God wishes that everyone were saved for Heaven, and so He will judge all the circumstances of everybody as innocent until proven guilty, with the best Heavenward construction on everything. But, God is also just, right to the point of dividing "soul and spirit, joints and marrow" to make the right judgment.

Well, I guess I'm fucked.

[BADecker]

- At the resurrection there will be a formal judgment that simply shows the judgment the people set on themselves here on earth by the time they died.
- Points in a judgment towards Heaven include:
- - Faith that God exists.
- - Understanding that people made mistakes before God (sinned).
- - Faith in Jesus pain and death and resurrection, and forgiveness for all mistakes made.
- - At least a little sincere doing of good works based on faith in Jesus.
- What a person believes and does in life determines his position in the resurrection.
- Only God can judge if there was enough faith for Heaven.

That's approximately it, except to say that God wishes that everyone were saved for Heaven, and so He will judge all the circumstances of everybody as innocent until proven guilty, with the best Heavenward construction on everything. But, God is also just, right to the point of dividing "soul and spirit, joints and marrow" to make the right judgment.

Well, I guess I'm fucked.

I respectfully accept your choice, as does God.    

[tvbcof]

- At the resurrection there will be a formal judgment that simply shows the judgment the people set on themselves here on earth by the time they died.
- Points in a judgment towards Heaven include:
- - Faith that God exists.
- - Understanding that people made mistakes before God (sinned).
- - Faith in Jesus pain and death and resurrection, and forgiveness for all mistakes made.
- - At least a little sincere doing of good works based on faith in Jesus.
- What a person believes and does in life determines his position in the resurrection.
- Only God can judge if there was enough faith for Heaven.

That's approximately it, except to say that God wishes that everyone were saved for Heaven, and so He will judge all the circumstances of everybody as innocent until proven guilty, with the best Heavenward construction on everything. But, God is also just, right to the point of dividing "soul and spirit, joints and marrow" to make the right judgment.

Well, I guess I'm fucked.

I respectfully accept your choice, as does God.

Hope so.  The thing is, unless I could really really mean everything I 'said' I believed, God would certainly know it and would (rightly) condemn me as a lying piece of shit.  I'll have to just hope that He (or St. Peter or whoever) would recognize that I did my best to make sense of things and pick out what I though was right and good in what I was exposed to.  And, conversely, pick out things which seemed bad and scammy and try to stand against them both within religion and within secular life.  Time will tell.

[BADecker]

I respectfully accept your choice, as does God.

Hope so.  The thing is, unless I could really really mean everything I 'said' I believed, God would certainly know it and would (rightly) condemn me as a lying piece of shit.  I'll have to just hope that He (or St. Peter or whoever) would recognize that I did my best to make sense of things and pick out what I though was right and good in what I was exposed to.  And, conversely, pick out things which seemed bad and scammy and try to stand against them both within religion and within secular life.  Time will tell.

The ironic thing is, God knows all this about you and me... and everybody else. God - Almighty - sent His Heavenly begotten Son, Jesus - Almighty - into humility as one of us. Jesus lived the life we couldn't, and because He is God with the Father, He took the punishment for all of us for all the wrong things we have done.

What we have done doesn't mean anything any longer. The fact that we are all lying pieces of shit doesn't matter any longer. There is one thing that matters. It simply is believing the truth that Jesus did the work, took the punishment and finished it. There isn't any condemnation any longer for any of us for things we did wrong, or believed wrong... except the one. The one is not believing that Jesus did it for us.

The third Person of God is the Holy spirit. His job is to gently entice us to believe about Jesus. If we reject His coaxing, that's the sin we will be punished for throughout eternity. Jesus took the punishment for the rest of the sins... all of them. He could do it because He is God Almighty. God won't punish for them a second time.

Why didn't Jesus take the punishment for the sin against the Holy Spirit? Because God created us with an aspect of "Godness" that gives us free will as He has. And He isn't going to take free will away from us, because there are all kinds of animals around that don't have free will. We are the "animal" that has free will. That's why the Holy Spirit coaxes. He is set by God to leave us our free will, at least regarding God and salvation.

The thing that I am writing here is a condensation of the major thread of the Bible. The Bible is this "               " thick. My condensation of the theme of it will be lacking. But I hope that you get the idea.

So, you see? I can offer, coax, explain, hope (for you), etc., that you will change. But the choice to reject is yours. I MUST accept your decision.