UK Recording over 10.000 cases

[Ultegra134]

I was browsing the statistics of Covid-19 in Worldometers today, and was surprised to see that UK had over 11.000 cases yesterday. I was dumbfounded, since UK didn't have any significant amount of cases for the past few months. According to NBCNews, the Delta, which is 40 to 80% more transmissible that the previous variants, is said to be accountable for 95% of the latest surge in cases.

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197

[BADecker]

The medical must be pushing the PCR test again.     

[mindrust]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Maybe it was the social distancing and lockdowns that reduced the numbers, not the vaccines. That's also a possibility.

[BADecker]

^^^ Not only not as effective, but producing loads of variants, besides.

[Poker Player]

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197

How scary!

Younger age groups are generally asymptomatic and have a near 0 chance of dying from coronavirus.

That's junk journalism that seeks to scare people. This is what they normally do. They live by causing emocional impact on readers but it has been exacerbated since the coronavirus.

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Maybe it was the social distancing and lockdowns that reduced the numbers, not the vaccines. That's also a possibility.

You have commented without reading the news. Although I guess it has happened to all of us at one time or another.

Most of the new confirmed cases are among younger age groups which have not yet gotten Covid-19 vaccines.

[Ultegra134]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Maybe it was the social distancing and lockdowns that reduced the numbers, not the vaccines. That's also a possibility.

A large percentage of the population has been vaccinated, however, in order to achieve herd immunity, you'll need at least 70% of the population to be vaccinated. Unfortunately, UK and most European countries haven't had their youngsters vaccinated, while most confirmed cases in UK, are young people.

[mindrust]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Maybe it was the social distancing and lockdowns that reduced the numbers, not the vaccines. That's also a possibility.

You have commented without reading the news. Although I guess it has happened to all of us at one time or another.

Most of the new confirmed cases are among younger age groups which have not yet gotten Covid-19 vaccines.

If that's the case...

then why weren't those youngsters catching fire few months ago but now?

The same people weren't vaccinated when the numbers were low as they are not now. Yet, the numbers were low back then and going up now. They decided to get sick now?

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Maybe it was the social distancing and lockdowns that reduced the numbers, not the vaccines. That's also a possibility.

A large percentage of the population has been vaccinated, however, in order to achieve herd immunity, you'll need at least 70% of the population to be vaccinated.

I know that already. I thought, they already vaccinated most people so the pandemic was about to end in the UK...

[Oshosondy]

^^^ Not only not as effective, but producing loads of variants, besides.

This is not the first time coronavirus has been existing, it has been existing for long time, this is not also the first varient but can be called the first deadly varient, as this deadly ones are existing already, also possible new varients will be existing. But this is not the case in this thread, it is about new people that are admitted in hospital tested to have the disease to have not been vaccinated before. I am not saying anyone should take the vaccine, but that is what the topic above means, while it is young people that are having the virus now which was not like that before, but the young people are not taking the vaccine unlike the old people.

[LTU_btc]

If that's the case...

then why weren't those youngsters catching fire few months ago but now?

The same people weren't vaccinated when the numbers low as they are not now. Yet, the numbers were low back then and going up now. They decided to get sick now?

Yeah, it looks strange that in UK, where big part of population is already vaccinated, numbers of new cases is increasing. While in Israel these numbers is minimal - just 27 new cases today and 0 deaths.
But probably these numbers is related with Covid Delta version which comes from India. It spreads faster and as I read, it's mire dangerous for young people than other versions. Also, I read somewhere that only two vaccine shots gives good protection against it. So, people who got just one shot so far still can get infected.

[mindrust]

If that's the case...

then why weren't those youngsters catching fire few months ago but now?

The same people weren't vaccinated when the numbers low as they are not now. Yet, the numbers were low back then and going up now. They decided to get sick now?

Yeah, it looks strange that in UK, where big part of population is already vaccinated, numbers of new cases is increasing. While in Israel these numbers is minimal - just 27 new cases today and 0 deaths.
But probably these numbers is related with Covid Delta version which comes from India. It spreads faster and as I read, it's mire dangerous for young people than other versions. Also, I read somewhere that only two vaccine shots gives good protection against it. So, people who got just one shot so far still can get infected.

I don't know how true it is but I recently have read something else.

The article or the video was saying that the vaccine is forcing the virus to mutate because the virus is taking precautions to stay alive constantly. His (or Her) idea was that the vaccines are making these mutations...

Made sense to me.

[Ultegra134]

If that's the case...

then why weren't those youngsters catching fire few months ago but now?

The same people weren't vaccinated when the numbers low as they are not now. Yet, the numbers were low back then and going up now. They decided to get sick now?

Yeah, it looks strange that in UK, where big part of population is already vaccinated, numbers of new cases is increasing. While in Israel these numbers is minimal - just 27 new cases today and 0 deaths.
But probably these numbers is related with Covid Delta version which comes from India. It spreads faster and as I read, it's mire dangerous for young people than other versions. Also, I read somewhere that only two vaccine shots gives good protection against it. So, people who got just one shot so far still can get infected.

I don't know how true it is but I recently have read something else.

The article or the video was saying that the vaccine is forcing the virus to mutate because the virus is taking precautions to stay alive constantly. His (or Her) idea was that the vaccines are making these mutations...

Made sense to me.

That's not actually true and has already been debunked. On top of that, now that the quarantine measures have eased, young people aren't really careful not taking safety measures seriously.

If that's the case...

then why weren't those youngsters catching fire few months ago but now?

The same people weren't vaccinated when the numbers low as they are not now. Yet, the numbers were low back then and going up now. They decided to get sick now?

Yeah, it looks strange that in UK, where big part of population is already vaccinated, numbers of new cases is increasing. While in Israel these numbers is minimal - just 27 new cases today and 0 deaths.
But probably these numbers is related with Covid Delta version which comes from India. It spreads faster and as I read, it's mire dangerous for young people than other versions. Also, I read somewhere that only two vaccine shots gives good protection against it. So, people who got just one shot so far still can get infected.

Israel has a higher vaccination percentage, but it could also be an ethical thing, people in Israel might be more careful than in UK.

[Similificator]

Something that no one would have expected to happen in auch a country which is abundant in vaccines. But for me, it really isn't that surprising since most of the time people ignore the threats of the virus. They won't even follow simole protocols that would've been able to save them or their families from this virus. They are too confident with their immune system and become too complacent. They are only wasting priveleges that people on some countries would kill to have. I don't even know what is up with the world nowadays.

[mindrust]

That's not actually true and has already been debunked...

I didn't say I am sure that it is true. I said It made sense. Unless I see that debunking making more sense, it still makes sense to me.

...On top of that, now that the quarantine measures have eased, young people aren't really careful not taking safety measures seriously.

I already indicated this in my first post.

[BADecker]

UK Recording over 10.000 cases


Oh, they're simply talking about 10,000 cases of beer.


   

[Gyfts]

Like you mentioned, it's mainly the young people that are getting infected so this isn't really a big deal.

Same thing will happen every where -- young people aren't getting vaccinated because they don't feel the need, so the cases will periodically have small peaks because the unvaxed get Covid. The thing you need to look at is the death rate. If the deaths begin to increase, then you have a problem. Deaths usually lag behind, so wait 2-3 weeks and then we might worry.

[tabas]

I thought that most of their population already got the vaccine. But with that number of cases, I think they can still isolate it and just push them to recover and receive the vaccine shot and they'll back again in the normal lives.
These youngsters got a better immune system so after they recover, they only have to take the vaccine and for sure they will because they've experienced how hard it is to have covid.

[AliErkic]

That's junk journalism that seeks to scare people. This is what they normally do. They live by causing emocional impact on readers but it has been exacerbated since the coronavirus.

No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?
It looks more like some variants from India were new now and people are affected. Meanwhile restrictions were lowered and as a result cases are rising. Beaches were also full last time it was reported.
So no junk journalism, just a report how it is right now in UK.

You should better sort out your fake arguments next time, many Corona deniers have made more catchy arguments.

[BADecker]

That's junk journalism that seeks to scare people. This is what they normally do. They live by causing emocional impact on readers but it has been exacerbated since the coronavirus.

No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?
It looks more like some variants from India were new now and people are affected. Meanwhile restrictions were lowered and as a result cases are rising. Beaches were also full last time it was reported.
So no junk journalism, just a report how it is right now in UK.

You should better sort out your fake arguments next time, many Corona deniers have made more catchy arguments.

The numbers in India are being massaged by the media and the medical. The States in India that have started implementing wide spread IVERMECTIN, are seeing an almost 100% reduction in Covid and associated deaths. The States that are promoting the vaxx are seeing deaths continue to rise.

[Cnut237]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

Or maybe not...

I'm in the UK. I've been following the data on a daily basis for well over a year now. If you want to have a look for yourself, this is as good a summary as any.

The UK is experiencing a surge in cases due to the rise of the 'delta' variant, which was first identified in India. This now accounts for 99% of new cases. For some reason (which I won't go into now for the purposes of brevity) the UK decided not to put India on the 'red' list of travel restrictions for quite some time, despite being well aware of the spread there of this more transmissible new strain. Red-listing India would have meant that people entering the UK from India would have had to self-isolate, which would almost certainly have reduced the spread.

The 'delta' variant...

had been identified through genetic sequencing as being in the UK in the week beginning 8 March. And it had been designated as a "variant of interest" by the World Health Organization (WHO) on 4 April [...] And in its weekly update on 30 March, the WHO pointed out India had the third highest number of new cases in the world, with a 55% increase on the previous week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57500637

The UK wasn't concerned enough to put India on the 'red' travel restriction list until 23 April. Which brings to mind this, yet again.

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Images below from my first link.
We let 20,000 people enter the country from India in the month leading up to 23 April, which was more than sufficient for the variant to take hold in the north-west of England (which has a high Indian population).



Cases are rising rapidly, but hospitalisations and deaths are not... BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE. (You'd think this wouldn't need explaining yet again, but here we are...)





For any anti-vaxxer zealots who remain unconvinced, you might want to also consider that vaccination in the UK has been offered in descending order of age, because older people are more vulnerable to severe effects. So the younger you are, the less likely you've been vaccinated. Here are the case rates by age group.



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The article or the video was saying that the vaccine is forcing the virus to mutate because the virus is taking precautions to stay alive constantly. His (or Her) idea was that the vaccines are making these mutations...
Made sense to me.

I don't know if you're a creationist, or if you believe in evolution through mutation and natural selection... but that's how humans got here. Viruses — particularly RNA-viruses such as Covid — also mutate and are of course subject to natural selection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_evolution

[semobo]

I was browsing the statistics of Covid-19 in Worldometers today, and was surprised to see that UK had over 11.000 cases yesterday. I was dumbfounded, since UK didn't have any significant amount of cases for the past few months. According to NBCNews, the Delta, which is 40 to 80% more transmissible that the previous variants, is said to be accountable for 95% of the latest surge in cases.

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197

Get ready for the third wave and probably this is not going to be limited in the UK, almost every region has to face this and all those vaccination dramas are for political reasons but in reality, people got vaccinated infected with covid and people got vaccinated few minutes after their dosage but the reason the medical field says that this is not happened due to the vaccines.