UK Recording over 10.000 cases

[Mauser]

I was browsing the statistics of Covid-19 in Worldometers today, and was surprised to see that UK had over 11.000 cases yesterday. I was dumbfounded, since UK didn't have any significant amount of cases for the past few months. According to NBCNews, the Delta, which is 40 to 80% more transmissible that the previous variants, is said to be accountable for 95% of the latest surge in cases.

The majority of the new confirmed cases are youngsters, who haven't received the Covid-19 vaccine. Thus, this shows how important it is for all ages to get vaccinated.



Sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-records-over-10-000-covid-cases-first-time-n1271197

Oh wow, that's insane. I haven't followed the corona numbers lately because I thought that during summer they were declining everywhere. Wasn't UK the country with the most people being vaccinated? I read about the delta mutation that it is much worse than the previous ones, but the vaccine should fight it too. The only problem is if you have only one dose of the vaccine, than the immunity is not strong enough yet. Does it mean that most people in UK only had one dose of the vaccine?

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[Ultegra134]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

~ Snip ~

Finally, someone who speaks out with valid data. Couldn't have said it better myself, however, it's a shame that after all this effort in reducing the transmission of Covid-19, was blown away by some inadequate travelling measures. Indians shouldn't have been let into the country without a vaccine certification and self-isolation.

[franky1]

a vaccine does not create an invisible shield outside the body with a 'do not enter' sign

emphasis: ^ is not how vaccines work.

when people are infected. a vaccine knows how to fight it quick and efficiently and this not produce symptoms
symptoms are where the body have to go into overdrive to do something.

so yes whole lockdowns are relaxing CASE numbers will go up
but the number of hospitalisations per case go down


in 2020 when
it was like for every 100 cases 20 were hospitalised

in 2020
it is like for every 100 cases 7 were hospitalised


yes lockdowns prevent people even getting covid. but thats only a delay tactic.
vaccines fight the virus to prevent hospitalisation and thus death

again
no vaccines do not create a invisible 'do not enter' bubble shield to prevent infection
they do fight off the infection before it causes any negative effects

[BADecker]

Wat? Weren't the UK vaccinated mostly? Why is the number going up? Could it be that... vaccines are not as effective as people think they are? Maybe.

~ Snip ~

Finally, someone who speaks out with valid data. Couldn't have said it better myself, however, it's a shame that after all this effort in reducing the transmission of Covid-19, was blown away by some inadequate travelling measures. Indians shouldn't have been let into the country without a vaccine certification and self-isolation.

But Indians are using IVERMECTIN, now. Possibly the safest nation in the world.

[Ultegra134]

a vaccine does not create an invisible shield outside the body with a 'do not enter' sign

emphasis: ^ is not how vaccines work.

when people are infected. a vaccine knows how to fight it quick and efficiently and this not produce symptoms
symptoms are where the body have to go into overdrive to do something.

so yes whole lockdowns are relaxing CASE numbers will go up
but the number of hospitalisations per case go down


in 2020 when
it was like for every 100 cases 20 were hospitalised

in 2020
it is like for every 100 cases 7 were hospitalised


yes lockdowns prevent people even getting covid. but thats only a delay tactic.
vaccines fight the virus to prevent hospitalisation and thus death

again
no vaccines do not create a invisible 'do not enter' bubble shield to prevent infection
they do fight off the infection before it causes any negative effects

Vaccines can not only reduce the virus transmission, but also reduce the amount of deaths and hospitalizations, since you already have antibodies, this can easily be seen in the UK's statistics, with over 10.000 confirmed daily cases, the amount of deaths is really small, recording 15-20 deaths, despite the high number of cases.

[Tash]

Retired ex-policeman mark sexton reported the govenment for murder and crimes against humanity.
https://rumble.com/vir9o7-retired-ex-policeman-mark-sexton-has-just-visited-the-police-to-report-the-.html

[Jet Cash]

It isn't the number of people who are infected, but the number to people with positive results from unreliable tests. Anyway, who cares about the spread of the virus,it is the number of people who become seriously ill that matters, and that is negligible. We have liked with Corona viruses since the 1930s, and most of us have natural immunity. This can be messed up by the lack of sunlight, wearing face masks, dehydration,confining families indoors, and other measures so beloved of the governments.

They need to try to force total vaccination to remove a control group for evidence when the inevitable claims against vaccine  damage arrive.

[franky1]

peolpe have natural immunity to 'common' corona.. meaning those that have been around

the whole point of the pandemic is that covid is novel.. a NEW varient that has not been around.
yes give it a few seasons and it will be common.

but new varients WHEN NEW cause more issues.

there are other factors too. but dont be an idiot if you think that having been infected by a 1960's strain makes you 100% immortal from a 2019 wuhan strain or the 2020 kent strain or the 2021 indian strain

what you dont want is too many cases. because even if the vaccine is making it less severe health harming.. the very fact that it still passes allows for oppertunity of mutation.
which could cause a strain to be more resistant to previous strain antibodies

there is a minor new strain every 2 weeks (two infection hops) and a strain divergence of significance every 4-5 months when there is peak cases

so its still important to not let the cases get too high. to slow down these divergent strains

[Poker Player]

No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?

I am rather a moron denier. That is distorted journalistic garbage. Just like the garbage argument you use that doesn't mention the most important part of what I said.

[Ultegra134]

No, you are wrong, are you Corona denier?

I am rather a moron denier. That is distorted journalistic garbage. Just like the garbage argument you use that doesn't mention the most important part of what I said.

That's what you mentioned a few days ago,

Younger age groups are generally asymptomatic and have a near 0 chance of dying from coronavirus.

Let me inform you that I've known a few people who were in ICU for weeks, they were approximately 18-22 years old while they had no underlying conditions.

Having such a spike in Covid-19 cases is concerning, it's not journalistic garbage, it's statistic information that can be proven anytime.

[Cnut237]

Anyway, who cares about the spread of the virus,it is the number of people who become seriously ill that matters, and that is negligible.

Yes, because thankfully a lot of us are now vaccinated. Before the vaccine programme, a lot more people were becoming seriously ill (both in total and proportional to cases).
Here are two of the charts I posted previously, along with the cumulative vaccinations chart. You will note that in the last few months cases have risen dramatically again, but the death rate has dropped to near-zero. What could account for this? (Clue: vaccine)

[Jet Cash]

It looks as if the vaccines are causing the virus to mutate, as well as reducing natural immunity. Wearing face masks is another health threat, and they make it harder to shake off a viral infection.

[mindrust]

It looks as if the vaccines are causing the virus to mutate, as well as reducing natural immunity. Wearing face masks is another health threat, and they make it harder to shake off a viral infection.

Haven't you gotten the memo?

Some vaccine-worshiper said it has been debunked. Since it was debunked by somebody which nobody cares, it is now a fact which can be verified by the fact checkers.

[franky1]

You will note that in the last few months cases have risen dramatically again, but the death rate has dropped to near-zero. What could account for this? (Clue: vaccine)

just be wary. not saying what you say is wrong.
but cases increase of May 25
become hospitalisations of june 2-3rd
become deaths by june 25th

so the flatline of CASES in may will show a flatline of deaths this week
and wont show an uptick of junes cases.. as resulting deaths until july

EG todays 10k cases. wont show its resulting deaths until next month

what you can do, which i done was look at the aprils cases and compared that to mays deaths
and compared pre may 20th cases to their 'month later' death

basically look at cases last month and deaths this week
dont treat todays deaths as linked to todays cases

EG
not accurate. just being lazy visuals of your 2 graphs(i got data but cant be assed to open my spreadsheets)
                         cases                                 deaths
november2020  20000   = december 2020     400   (2%)
january2021     55000   = febuary 2021        1200  (2%)
may 21 2021    ~3300   = june 21 2021        11(0.3%)

[BADecker]

You will note that in the last few months cases have risen dramatically again, but the death rate has dropped to near-zero. What could account for this? (Clue: vaccine)

just be wary. not saying what you say is wrong.
but cases increase of May 25
become hospitalisations of june 2-3rd
become deaths by june 25th

so the flatline of CASES in may will show a flatline of deaths this week
and wont show an uptick of junes cases.. as resulting deaths until july

EG todays 10k cases. wont so its resulting deaths until next month

what you can do, which i done was look at the aprils cases and compared that to mays deaths
and compared pre may 20th cases to their 'month later' death

basically look at cases last month and deaths this week
dont treat todays deaths as linked to todays cases

EG
not accurate. just being lazy visuals of your 2 graphs(i got data but cant be assed to open my spreadsheets)
                         cases                                 deaths
november2020  20000   = december 2020     400   (2%)
january2021     55000   = febuary 2021        1200  (2%)
may 21 2021    ~3300   = june 21 2021        11(0.3%)

They took the quality control people off the PCR tests, because, why waste the money? People believe whatever garbage they hear the medical say, any way. Don't need to waste money on quality control any longer.

[franky1]

They took the quality control people off the PCR tests, because, whywaste the money? People believe whatever garbage they hear the medical say, any way. Don't need to waste money on quality control any longer.

if only you tried to so some research and not just be an idiot troll
you could end up having better entertaining debates if you atleast tried.

but instead you wast 18months of your life repeating idiot stuff that is meaningless.
get the hint. your posts do not add any value to this forum

[BADecker]

They took the quality control people off the PCR tests, because, whywaste the money? People believe whatever garbage they hear the medical say, any way. Don't need to waste money on quality control any longer.

if only you tried to so some research and not just be an idiot troll
you could end up having better entertaining debates if you atleast tried.

but instead you wast 18months of your life repeating idiot stuff that is meaningless.
get the hint. your posts do not add any value to this forum

If only you tried looking at all the research rather than picking some of it that suits you, and blabbing like that was all the research that existed.

Ten thousand cases reminds me of that old song, "99 Bottles of Beer in the Wall."

[Ultegra134]

They took the quality control people off the PCR tests, because, whywaste the money? People believe whatever garbage they hear the medical say, any way. Don't need to waste money on quality control any longer.

if only you tried to so some research and not just be an idiot troll
you could end up having better entertaining debates if you atleast tried.

but instead you wast 18months of your life repeating idiot stuff that is meaningless.
get the hint. your posts do not add any value to this forum

It's no use to even try changing a conspiracy theorist's views about Covid-19 or any subject. They all think they're smarter or the "chosen ones", calling everyone else an idiot or sheep, for following experts who have spent their whole lives studying. But no, Mr.Nobody, who saw a video on Youtube about it knows better.

[franky1]

It's no use to even try changing a conspiracy theorist's views

there are many different levels of conspiracy nuts
1. easily led fangirls. who are a fan of an influencer. but its just a phase that they grow out
   examples are the fangirls of kardashians and trump.
   fans while famous but they get bored when not on TV weekly.
   fangirls no longer buy the influencers advertised fake tan when they no longer see their influencer

2. idealist fangirls where the influencers really try to sell a lie to a group of common interest
    once a fangirl has been told enough about why the lie is a lie. they get angry but then wake up

3. pathalogical fangirls that are addicted and psychotically too deep in the lie to escape
    they kind of know their influencers are a lie. but admitting is is a defeat and a loss.
    they would save face and double down on advertising lies more rather than admit they believed a lie


badecker is a number 3
though its the hardest idiot type to break. it becomes a task of not actually trying to cure him of his perpetual adverts of lies. but to speak down to him and debunk him so that he doesnt recruit more idiots
in short if you can show other readers that badecker is an idiot. other idiots wont b so quick to believe badecker

badecker doesnt think viruses are real probably more so because his adverts dont go viral and he has never experienced fame. so he feels because he cant spread lies. biological viruses cant spread either

[BADecker]

It's no use to even try changing a conspiracy theorist's views

there are many different levels of conspiracy nuts
1. easily led fangirls. who are a fan of an influencer. but its just a phase that they grow out
   examples are the fangirls of kardashians and trump.
   fans while famous but they get bored when not on TV weekly.
   fangirls no longer buy the influencers advertised fake tan when they no longer see their influencer

2. idealist fangirls where the influencers really try to sell a lie to a group of common interest
    once a fangirl has been told enough about why the lie is a lie. they get angry but then wake up

3. pathalogical fangirls that are addicted and psychotically too deep in the lie to escape
    they kind of know their influencers are a lie. but admitting is is a defeat and a loss.
    they would save face and double down on advertising lies more rather than admit they believed a lie


badecker is a number 3
though its the hardest idiot type to break. it becomes a task of not actually trying to cure him of his perpetual adverts of lies. but to speak down to him and debunk him so that he doesnt recruit more idiots
in short if you can show other readers that badecker is an idiot. other idiots wont b so quick to believe badecker

badecker doesnt think viruses are real probably more so because his adverts dont go viral and he has never experienced fame. so he feels because he cant spread lies. biological viruses cant spread either

Lol. Are you sure you're not a stage comedian? Get out on your boat and do some fishing. Even the fish will love your song and dance.