Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero

[harizen]

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

[Natalim]

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

[bisdak40]

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

[Japinat]

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?

[stomachgrowls]

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?

According to this https://www.the42.ie/eddie-hearn-2-4876723-Nov2019/

The vast majority of professional boxers globally aren’t tested until they reach world-championship level, whereby testing may be mandatory — or simply ‘encouraged’ and left to the local boxing commission — depending on the sanctioning body by whom a fight is supervised.

So this means that it isnt compulsory and would really be depending on some factors.If the said opposing team do really make out some request
then this would really be some insult imho.

[Japinat]

It's a requirement, Casimero's camp has to submit on it, otherwise, their reputation will be tarnish. I'm hearing this drug testing again, how is it different from before when Manny was asked to underdog a drug testing during his fight with Mayweather?

I think it's not compulsory in every fight as some fighters AFAIK don't go with that process. That would only be required if the other camp would want that they will be tested before the fight, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Mayweather vs Pacman, the former initiated or asked the commission that they will be tested by random and in a surprising manner.

I don't think that the fight will be canceled because of this issue because neither fighter is doing this doping thing.

Donaire does not ask for it in his previous fights IIRC, so can we call this an insult on Casimero's camp? For me, it shows that he doesn't trust Casimero and believes that he is using an enhancing drug to increase his stamina and power, how about you, what message did you see in this news?

According to this https://www.the42.ie/eddie-hearn-2-4876723-Nov2019/

The vast majority of professional boxers globally aren’t tested until they reach world-championship level, whereby testing may be mandatory — or simply ‘encouraged’ and left to the local boxing commission — depending on the sanctioning body by whom a fight is supervised.

So this means that it isnt compulsory and would really be depending on some factors.If the said opposing team do really make out some request
then this would really be some insult imho.

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero. Inoue was more powerful for a small guy, I think he should have asked a random drug testing before they fought. It's just disappointing that a fellow Filipino was asking it when Casimero had some big fight against Tete and it was not required or asked.

I hope it will not delay the fight, or cancel it at worst since Casimero's camp reportedly will not comply with it, so there's a little problem we are seeing here.

[Fatunad]

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero. Inoue was more powerful for a small guy, I think he should have asked a random drug testing before they fought. It's just disappointing that a fellow Filipino was asking it when Casimero had some big fight against Tete and it was not required or asked.

I hope it will not delay the fight, or cancel it at worst since Casimero's camp reportedly will not comply with it, so there's a little problem we are seeing here.

They do want to play it safe on Donaires camp but it would really be that some insult decision since that would really be showing off some hindrance nor suspicions that Casimero is taking up something on his fights and that cant really be avoided for Casimeros camp would really be thinking that way.
Since both are Filipino fighters why not just let the fight goes on without those check ups?

This is just really showing off that they are being too suspicious and for sure  there would be lots of bad impressions towards this.

[agustina2]

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds?

[btc78]

There's an ongoing issue about the fight regarding Casimero avoided a drug-testing procedure of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency). Just for anyone's information, complying with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) is a must as it ensures that both fighters are not using any anti-doping practices and programs in boxing and mixed martial arts.

I don't how it became a big issue since for transparency, both fighters can just comply with that so no issues will be raised. Casimero's camp are surely aware of that.

Following the progress with that issue.

It says voluntary then why this become  a requirement or is a must , there's a confusion towards this thing .

and also maybe this are all part of the Show to make the fight more controversial and lure many people to take part.

we knew that boxing industry is slowly dying now that's why there are tons of strategy needs to produce for this fight to find success.

[carlisle1]

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds?

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.

[bisdak40]

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds?

True, but fighting Casimero is very dangerous that it might ruin his plan for a rematch with Inoue. With the link below it seems that the Donaire's camp is no longer interested in fighting Quadro Alas because Top Rank big boss have promised Donaire that it could give him the Inoue rematch directly.

Since Inoue is under contract with Top Rank, Arum said he can arrange Donaire’s next fight to be against the Japanese Monster.

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http://philboxing.com/news/story-157066.html

[Sled]

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds?

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.

Eventually, such publicity works for so several years. Not only in the Philippines but all over the world especially the world of boxing (sometimes happen to MMA/UFC). If we can remember Mayweather and Mcgregor fights, it makes sense and it gives hypes to the tournament.

I see the confidence in both of them to win but let see what they can do during the fight. And who gonna win this might have a chance to fight against "The Monster" Inonue. Little bit excited, though.

[Russlenat]

I don't know if this is just an excuse from Donaire's camp, or he is just afraid of Casimero.

I think it's not an excuse. The fight between Donaire and Casimero is an idea of Donaire itself.

As I read in news, Casimero said he has complied with VADA and WBC drug-testing paperwork and is ready to be tested anytime. Donaire claims the files have not been submitted. Casimero's camp can submit it easily with no problem and check what will be the next thing that Donaire will ask after that.

Or maybe promotions so they are making sounds?

Part of publicity to create noise and attract more interested readers and fans? not sure but it's always this way,

promoters needs to think of something to gain interest from those people who loves this sports, both fighters have good numbers of fans,

those excuses might have valid reasons or also possible that both camps are creating things that can triggered fans to go side by side
and shows their supports from whoever they think have that edge to win.

Eventually, such publicity works for so several years. Not only in the Philippines but all over the world especially the world of boxing (sometimes happen to MMA/UFC). If we can remember Mayweather and Mcgregor fights, it makes sense and it gives hypes to the tournament.

I see the confidence in both of them to win but let see what they can do during the fight. And who gonna win this might have a chance to fight against "The Monster" Inonue. Little bit excited, though.

I think this is not just publicity, maybe Donaire has found a bigger opportunity and that is the rematch between Inoue. Bob Arum came into the picture, I don't know how much was offered but at the end of the day, we know it's just all about money.

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

[Natalim]

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

That's the issue now, and it looks like the fans are in favor of Casimero because a simple trash talk would make him demand in this fight as if he is making an excuse to delay it until it will not happen anymore. It's hard to tell what would happen but the way I see it, this mega-fight might not happen.

Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.

[milewilda]

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

That's the issue now, and it looks like the fans are in favor of Casimero because a simple trash talk would make him demand in this fight as if he is making an excuse to delay it until it will not happen anymore. It's hard to tell what would happen but the way I see it, this mega-fight might not happen.

Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.

Already having the thoughts that this is just really some drama to make out some diversion of said fights.They do make out delay or would be totally be adjusting those fight just for those filipino boxers to have chance on fighting Inoue in the first place. A revenge fight for Donaire on Inoue and that most anticipated fight of Casimero and Inoue that had been in talks in the past that hadnt happen yet but if these kind of issues arises and
wont really be resolved out then this might really be ending up on this kind of scenario which i dont see for it to be bad either. Both filipinos would have the chance on fighting the monster?
Trashtalks and other verbal wars or something is typical on boxing world and it isnt surprising at all.

[FinneysTrueVision]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

[Kelvinid]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

These are two great boxer but their teams are not working well and trash talking can affect the boxers, even if this is for promotions one thing is for sure if this fight will push through, someone will win and someone will go home crying so better for the team not to make any noise and let these both boxer do their job on the ring. I don't know the risk of not pushing this fight through, or is there a rule that this fight is necessary for both of them?

Donaire is a cry baby, he threatens Casimero to call off the fight because his family was disrespected.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/793374/nonito-donaire-threatens-to-call-off-fight-vs-john-riel-casimero-you-disrespected-my-family/story/

WBC world bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire is having none of WBO world bantamweight world champion John Riel Casimero's shenanigans ahead of their all-Filipino unification bout on August 14.

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In a live video posted on his wife Rachel's Facebook page, Donaire went off on his foe and threatened to call off the fight.

If that's Pacquaio, he would not mind it, instead, he will just punish that fighter in the ring.

Maybe it's just a drama for Donaire to stay away from getting KO because he knows that Casimero is a strong opponent.

[DoublerHunter]

Donaire has become a coward due to trash-talking of Casimero, but it was them who criticize Casimero's English, but if this fight will not happen, then bad for Donaire as Inoue is a tough fighter to crack, he knows that for sure.

~snip~
Maybe we will see first a Donaire vs Inoue rematch, then Inoue vs Casimero.

^ It's probably a perfect match than this.
WBC bantamweight titleholder versus the WBO bantamweight titleholder is not a perfect match for me, still, Donaire has a great advantage in this fight and Casimero will probably an underdog of this match. Naoya Inoue, who outpointed Donaire to fight will probably good to watch and I hope there I also schedule both of them too or the Rigondeaux and Donaire rematch is also had a chance to be scheduled soon.

[Yaunfitda]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.

[Twinkledoe]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.

There's no need for trash talking here as both are Filipinos, same flag they are wearing here. Anyway, maybe, this is another marketing propaganda, just to earn interest from boxing fans. We don't know their ulterior motives. But yes, Donaire has the motivation to win on this match, because Inoue is waiting for him for the rematch. If he wins, it will be interesting to see his rematch with Inoue, and for sure it will be one of the next big fights to look forward to.