Breaking : Donaire Versus Casimero

[Lanatsa]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

Donaire will walk out of this fight if Casimero will not adhere to VADA, I don't see him cancelling the fight because of trash talking. Been a long time since we saw a Filipino vs Filipino fight in recent years so obviously there will be trash talking as they have crossed paths in the past. So this fight will push through, this is big for Donaire as he has been chasing Inoue for a rematch and the only barrier for that to happen is Casimero.

Why cant just simply the team of Casimero would comply on whats been asked?If they aren't hiding something then this thing wont be a bothersome and let just the fight happen.

Trash talking are part of the game and this isn't a reason or a valid reason that the fight wont proceed or happen just because the opposing team just make out some trash talks?
What a kind of reasoning is that.

Doesn't matter if theyre both same nationality as long they would able to fight Inoue then that what matter most.

[Kemarit]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

people who have become professionals they shouldn't talk too much and immediately end it by dueling and showing the strength of who will be the winner after that happens I'm sure they won't often talk rubbish to each other because it's been proven by the battles they've done.

I think the trash talking is all for the wrong reasons though, so I agree that they shouldn't attack each other personally. Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here. Of course we love to hear them trash talk to promote the fight, but I don't know, I have a feeling that it seems they are trying to hard to do it, specially John Riel.

[lienfaye]

If that's Pacquaio, he would not mind it, instead, he will just punish that fighter in the ring.

Yes it would be better to show your anger during the fight as if you're getting revenge.
This fight is between both filipinos but not a friendly one, what seems to be the problem?
Is it Casimero for not complying yet to drug testing conducted by VADA? or the trash talking he made towards Donaire's family?

[Oasisman]

The trash talking from both sides reminds me of the Trump vs. Biden presidential debates. I don't know how getting in the gutter is going to help promote this fight. It is only making them look bad.

Trash talking is very normal and some great fighters prove that those who trash talk will suffer big time on the ring so I don’t see the reason why they are going to cancel the fight if Casimero didn’t stop from talking non-sense. That’s very unprofessional for both teams, they should push this one and stop crying for both sides.

people who have become professionals they shouldn't talk too much and immediately end it by dueling and showing the strength of who will be the winner after that happens I'm sure they won't often talk rubbish to each other because it's been proven by the battles they've done.

I think the trash talking is all for the wrong reasons though, so I agree that they shouldn't attack each other personally. Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here. Of course we love to hear them trash talk to promote the fight, but I don't know, I have a feeling that it seems they are trying to hard to do it, specially John Riel.

They are indeed trying so hard to sell this fight. I mean they're going to make a noise in social media even if it means that the trash talking is going too far as long as they can sell the fight.
They're both Filipinos so it's inevitable not to think they're not going to sell this fight unlike when they're fighting against other races. And so, this is the result.
I have seen boxers and fighters who trash talk too much during the pre-fight pres conference, but they're actually a nice person in real life.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.

[Sanitough]

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

[bisdak40]

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

If only Rachel Donaire is not into this word war with Casimero i think everything going to work out well.

I just don't know what's with the mind Of Nonito's manager that it ended this way or they are too greedy that they think they would lose to Casimero if this fight happens and that rematch with Inoue won't become a reality.

Samson got Delilah while Nonito got Rachel, the cause of his downfall lol.

[Hypnosis00]

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

If only Rachel Donaire is not into this word war with Casimero i think everything going to work out well.

I just don't know what's with the mind Of Nonito's manager that it ended this way or they are too greedy that they think they would lose to Casimero if this fight happens and that rematch with Inoue won't become a reality.

Samson got Delilah while Nonito got Rachel, the cause of his downfall lol.

That's the problem when the manager is a woman, they are too sensitive and since Donaire is his husband, he can always influence the decision of Donaire. This fight will not happen for sure, with this war of words, they are just destroying each other and the fans will be divided.

[DU18]

Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.

I think with him canceling the fight, of course the public will judge if he has no professionalism at all, before the fight happens I think it's natural for fighters to provoke each other with war of words but I don't think he can take a stupid enough decision to cancel that fight, if you look at some boxing fights like Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte, we can see how the two fighters even mocked each other before the fight started, as well as the UFC fight between khabib vs mcgregor of course everyone still remembers how mcgregor kept insulting khabib before match, but in the end khabib was able to answer the insults by defeating mcgregor in the octagon. I think the case is the same as what happened between Rachel Donaire Vs Casimero today, I think the right answer to silence every mockery of the opponent is to beat him in the ring,and instead of canceling the match.....!

[Baofeng]

And this is what Inoue has to say about this fight:

"I am going with Donaire in dramatic style," believes Inoue, who outpointed Donaire in their sensational November 2019 WBA/IBF unification clash.

https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-predicts-donaire-beat-casimero-dramatic-style--158807

So just like the majority of boxing and Filipino fans is predicting as well, Donaire will have the edge base on experience and power alone.

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.

[Fatunad]

Nonito released a statement saying the fight is cancelled:

I STAND
I am known to take stands people are afraid to take. I STAND for VADA 24/7/365 testing for ALL boxers. This should never be refused or delayed. I stand against BULLYING in any form. I STAND against the disrespect and ABUSE of women and children physically, mentally and emotionally. AND I STAND against misogynistic culture. A grown man recently told the mother of my boys to 'snack on his ----'. We cannot ignore this unprofessional behavior. We cannot excuse the disgusting trolling memes created of my wife as 'just for entertainment'. I don't want other pro athletes to cross this line and think this type of behavior is acceptable. We have to maintain a respectable character, especially online, for the future generations to emulate, and not promote ignorance and foul behavior. For the boxing culture to change, promoters and networks should veer away from unacceptable behavior and not encourage it. That being said, as we've stated before, we cancelled this fight when they delayed turning in the VADA paperwork for 5 days. We have proof that the opposing side was neither honest nor forthcoming in providing the proper information to begin VADA drug testing. AFTER we cancelled the fight, then and only then did the paperwork suddenly appear. I do what I say. And as much as I want to knock him out, I'm going to take the high road and instead of highlighting his misbehaviors, I'm not going to give his example the stage or the payday that comes with it.

I think with him canceling the fight, of course the public will judge if he has no professionalism at all, before the fight happens I think it's natural for fighters to provoke each other with war of words but I don't think he can take a stupid enough decision to cancel that fight, if you look at some boxing fights like Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte, we can see how the two fighters even mocked each other before the fight started, as well as the UFC fight between khabib vs mcgregor of course everyone still remembers how mcgregor kept insulting khabib before match, but in the end khabib was able to answer the insults by defeating mcgregor in the octagon. I think the case is the same as what happened between Rachel Donaire Vs Casimero today, I think the right answer to silence every mockery of the opponent is to beat him in the ring,and instead of canceling the match.....!

I would rather see this as part of his Ego as you can read up on the statement which i do considered valid which i dont see anything wrong with it.If their camp had decided to cancel out the fight then they are capable to do so and any team or camp unless if its mandatory and does have that big penalty then they would be surely have doubts or hesitance in doing so.For Donaire insights about Casimero then having that kind of request isnt
really that an insult just like what most people been saying here because it could really be that part and just like what been said if they arent hiding something then they would just simply agree with that without
any problems but it seems the other team doesnt really like with these kind of terms but well its their own point of view.

[bL4nkcode]

Much better if Casimero will just zip his mouth and just respect his fellow Filipino here.

That would be another level of casimero if he will be silent, it's style though, but it's proven that those talks becomes power when he fights.

I do hope that Casimero will subject himself to the testing as not to jeopardised this fight. We have heard that Donaire is threatening to way away in they will not settle on the VADA testing.

It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.


I actually want casimero-inoue instead, I already predict that donaire will still be defeated against inoue base on his previous fight, he's becoming so slow that he always throw his left, he just have his left - a powerful left, that is, and nothing else.

[Fredomago]

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

[Botnake]

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.

[Quidat]

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.

Not sure if they wouldnt still demand if the opponent wasnt a Filipino or just they are trying to make some issue here to make some spice before the fight and make more some controversies or something.
This doesnt show any disrespect since its just a request but if this fight wont push through then theres tendency that Donaire will be having some rematch against Inoue and Casimero would just
be next on the line and i dont see that Casimero is better than Donaire in terms of experience and i dont believe on losing fans after this issue.

[Botnake]

I've read a news today on social media, Donaire are so serious about cancelling the fight because Casimero attacks the family of Donaire which makes him mad. I don't know if this is just a way to sell their fight, to make heat on this match but this is indeed unacceptable so I think Donaire is making a good decision here but for sure, money will still be a matter for both teams, we'll see on August.

I see some memes saying.

When Mayorga disrespected De la hoya's wife, De la hoya knock Mayorga in the ring.
Now, Donaire's wife was disrespected according to him, Donaire cancels the fight, this Filipino fight has no class and he has a lot of haters now, especially the wife of Donaire who happened to be his manager as well.

That's the better way to shows up your disappointment with your opponents, not how Donaire act and cancelling the fight.
If they are aiming for more talks about the fight, there are other ways of trash talks and let the fans engagements flows. Unlike with
what happened after this disrespect issue,

they are not bringing interest but hates to those who read this article who are waiting for this possible fight, disappointment throw
fans attentions and interest.

Let's call it as an excuse on Donaire's side, they would never do that if the opponent is not a Filipino.

You know, they think they are really superior and it's actually Donaire's camp who are not respecting Casimero, we know for sure that Casimero's tirade was just part of selling the fight, but Donaire's camp was too serious and demanded respect thinking they are even better than the humble Manny Pacman. All I can say is that Donaire is killing the excitement of the fans, if this fight will be officially canceled, he will lose Filipino supporters.

Not sure if they wouldnt still demand if the opponent wasnt a Filipino or just they are trying to make some issue here to make some spice before the fight and make more some controversies or something.
This doesnt show any disrespect since its just a request but if this fight wont push through then theres tendency that Donaire will be having some rematch against Inoue and Casimero would just
be next on the line and i dont see that Casimero is better than Donaire in terms of experience and i dont believe on losing fans after this issue.

According to Casimero's camp, they ask their promoter to cancel the Rigo fight to gave way to Donaire since they were a challenge and they think it's a great fight, but this messed happened, so they really have no commitment, they are destroying a supposed to be a great fight between Casimero and Rigo just for their greedy personal interest as Donaire will have a fight with Inoue.

you know what? when Bob Arum came into the picture, things have flip, and Arum knows Inoue would be able to beat the old Donaire again.

[chaser15]

The fight is off but there's no official announcement to that. It's more of a pure statement out of anger, disappointment or anything else.

Until we don't see any news about the formal announcement coming from the promoters themselves that the flight is officially cancelled, then there's always a chance that the fight will happen.

There some things that are currently ongoing some fix as the fight is still over a month to go. Enough time to settle the dispute.

[tippytoes]

The fight is off but there's no official announcement to that. It's more of a pure statement out of anger, disappointment or anything else.

Until we don't see any news about the formal announcement coming from the promoters themselves that the flight is officially cancelled, then there's always a chance that the fight will happen.

There some things that are currently ongoing some fix as the fight is still over a month to go. Enough time to settle the dispute.

Upon reading the article - https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/nonito-donaire-cancels-unification-fight-with-john-riel-casimero-over-insults-hurled-at-his-wife/, I believe this fight will not push thru anymore. As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what. Now, we don't know if there is still Donaire-Inoue fight, if this one will be totally shelved.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It's already settled https://twitter.com/Vada_Testing/status/1408928907386970116

But that fight is off as donaire's team announced.

There are different levels to VADA testing. Since Donaire is the A-side he has the right to demand more stringent testing and this was what Casimero wouldn't agree to until it was too late. Casimero and his representative have been rubbing people the wrong way and it is coming back to bite them, missing out on a big payday.

[agustina2]

As Casimero's camp crossed the line of disrespecting Donaire's wife, I don't think Donaire will still push thru this fight. Donaire is right, one should maintain a respectable character no matter what.

It's a great chance to solved the issues on the ring on which Donaire doesn't want to do it anymore. It's even more inspiring to crash Casimero because of the incident but Donaire just decided and finalized it already that no more fight anymore. If he really wants to give Casimero a lesson, then he should bring this guy into losing.

As to my last post here, I still believe that this is still part of the promotion for me as their promoters or boxing organization are not saying anything about the incident. They should at least gave a statement beforehand when the issue is just new.