GPU confusion

[S3300]

What's the difference between a RTX3060ti and a RTX3060ti LHR and what confused me the most is the LHR, is this a better version for mining? I'm just trying to avoid something I may regret later thanks

[Skinny48]

You trying to buy a RTX3060ti? You did well newbie many won't bother and just go ahead and buy anything leaving regrets for later, the LHR stands for Low Hash Rate, what do you think? That sounds bad right? Yea it did, the fact is the LHR versions gives only 30MH+ on ETH mining and the standard non LHR cards gives 60MH, see the difference? Don't thank me thank your smart ass for willing to ask before making a decision.

[FP91G]

What's the difference between a RTX3060ti and a RTX3060ti LHR and what confused me the most is the LHR, is this a better version for mining? I'm just trying to avoid something I may regret later thanks

Skinny48 answered you correctly. But the RTX3060ti LHR video card needs to be tested, if it has a low hash rate when mining Ethereum, then this is not a problem. You need to check the hash rate on other algorithms

https://whattomine.com/gpus/52-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti?cost=0.1
Therefore, you need to buy 1 video card for testing.
In your country, can the video card be returned a day after purchase or exchanged for another?

[adaseb]

Read about it here,
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/

Basically it stands for Lite Hashrate and its Nvidia's attempt to make the gamers happy and make the GPUs less desireable to miners so gamers can get their hands on them. Many think why does Nvidia care whether Gamers or Miners buy their GPUS, they get their money anyways? But the issue is that for the past year or so many gamers are mad because GPUs are OOS everywhere and they are forced to pay huge markups.

So these GPUs will be easier to find in stock usually. You can even mine with them but the hashrate is reduced. Wonder if AMD will make a similar approach?

[btcshiner]

Read about it here,
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/

Basically it stands for Lite Hashrate and its Nvidia's attempt to make the gamers happy and make the GPUs less desireable to miners so gamers can get their hands on them. Many think why does Nvidia care whether Gamers or Miners buy their GPUS, they get their money anyways? But the issue is that for the past year or so many gamers are mad because GPUs are OOS everywhere and they are forced to pay huge markups.

So these GPUs will be easier to find in stock usually. You can even mine with them but the hashrate is reduced. Wonder if AMD will make a similar approach?

Amd has come out already and said they won't purposely reduce the hashrate of their cards. 

[Looper_U]

You can find the exact hashrate for this 3060ti LHR variant using the calculator dropped below and this card does have advantage on other algorithms like Ergo for example, this card can do 3$ per day on Ergo mining while the ETH is just 30MH @ 120 watts

https://minerstat.com/hardware/nvidia-rtx-3060ti-lhr

[mak013]

3060ti LHR - decreases only Ethash hashrates, or this is a new GPU with decreased hashrates for different algos?
If only Ethash - other algos are rather profitable too and the hashrate is like normal 3060ti.

[Gorosden]

Ergo and superzero coin are more profitable on rtx3060ti LHR versions, you get more dollars 3$ to 2.5$ mining either one of these coins but the normal rtx3060ti is more profitable when it comes to ETH mining

[batsonxl]

So there is 3060ti LHR and 3060ti NON LHR?
I thought all 3060ti are NON LHR. and all 3060 12g are LHR cards. Am i wrong?

I thought this way:

3060ti   3070    3080   3090   these are NON LHR


and :

3060 12g      3070ti     3080 ti are LHR cards.

Can someone please clearefy this. Thanks   

[anu1908]

3060ti LHR - decreases only Ethash hashrates, or this is a new GPU with decreased hashrates for different algos?

afaik it's only for eth mining, since it's the most popular one. so basically it's still usable for other things. this is just nvidia's way to increase their sales.

Amd has come out already and said they won't purposely reduce the hashrate of their cards.  

amd newest card is not that good for mining anyway, so there's no need to introduce a new one. cmiiw, even rnda is better in mining compared to rdna2.

[philipma1957]

So there is 3060ti LHR and 3060ti NON LHR?
I thought all 3060ti are NON LHR. and all 3060 12g are LHR cards. Am i wrong?

I thought this way:

3060ti   3070    3080   3090   these are NON LHR


and :

3060 12g      3070ti     3080 ti are LHR cards.

Can someone please clearefy this. Thanks  

3060 has two versions of nerfdom one can be hacked with lol miner and do good eth
one is newer and supposedly will not do eth hack

3070 ti has new eth block
3080 ti has new eth block


3060ti is supposed to change to lhr
3070 is supposed to change to lhr
3080 is supposed to change to lhr
3090 may not change to lhr

the founders edition
3060ti
3070
3080
3090 will full be unrestricted

Basically it will be kind of a mess so be sure you buy from people that will take returns

If you are buying an evga

and It has a kl it is nerfed

let me find one to show you

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3978-KR

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KR

if they have a KL and not a KR they are nerfed

[swogerino]

Read about it here,
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/

Basically it stands for Lite Hashrate and its Nvidia's attempt to make the gamers happy and make the GPUs less desireable to miners so gamers can get their hands on them. Many think why does Nvidia care whether Gamers or Miners buy their GPUS, they get their money anyways? But the issue is that for the past year or so many gamers are mad because GPUs are OOS everywhere and they are forced to pay huge markups.

So these GPUs will be easier to find in stock usually. You can even mine with them but the hashrate is reduced. Wonder if AMD will make a similar approach?

Amd has come out already and said they won't purposely reduce the hashrate of their cards. 

It looks like AMD is willing to get a lot of money and not care much for gamers at all.By this statement they are saying if gamers want our cards,let's pay the premium over MSRP because of the situation with graphic cards right now,also we don't care who buy our cards as long as we make money for it and this is how business is done,supply and demand.I see Nvidia losing many sales with this policy but let's see how it unfolds.

[Commie]

If you are buying an evga

and It has a kl it is nerfed

let me find one to show you

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3978-KR

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KR

if they have a KL and not a KR they are nerfed

Do you know where too look up this info for other brands? I'm searching for few days now, found very little.

[btcshiner]

If you are buying an evga

and It has a kl it is nerfed

let me find one to show you

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3978-KR

here is a good kr


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3751-KR

if they have a KL and not a KR they are nerfed

Do you know where too look up this info for other brands? I'm searching for few days now, found very little.

On Zotaz's site they actually label them lhr

https://us.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-amp-holo-lhr

[Commie]

On Zotaz's site they actually label them lhr

https://us.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-amp-holo-lhr

Being able to determine by model # would be way more useful. Not in all countries they'd mark them properly, leave alone private ads.

[FP91G]

Read about it here,
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/

Basically it stands for Lite Hashrate and its Nvidia's attempt to make the gamers happy and make the GPUs less desireable to miners so gamers can get their hands on them. Many think why does Nvidia care whether Gamers or Miners buy their GPUS, they get their money anyways? But the issue is that for the past year or so many gamers are mad because GPUs are OOS everywhere and they are forced to pay huge markups.

So these GPUs will be easier to find in stock usually. You can even mine with them but the hashrate is reduced. Wonder if AMD will make a similar approach?

Amd has come out already and said they won't purposely reduce the hashrate of their cards.  

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-cryptocurrency-mining-limiter-ethereum/
The RX 6000 series is already worse for mining due to its improved architecture for gamers.
AMD is doing much smarter, because when the demand for video cards falls, they will not have to create leaks for new drivers, which increase the hash rate in mining.

[btcshiner]

On Zotaz's site they actually label them lhr

https://us.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-amp-holo-lhr

Being able to determine by model # would be way more useful. Not in all countries they'd mark them properly, leave alone private ads.

Did you go to Zotac's site?  It has the sku right in the middle of the page as well.   

ZOTAC GAMING GEFORCE RTX 3070 AMP HOLO LHR
SKU ZT-A30700F-10PLHR

[Commie]

On Zotaz's site they actually label them lhr

https://us.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-amp-holo-lhr

Being able to determine by model # would be way more useful. Not in all countries they'd mark them properly, leave alone private ads.

Did you go to Zotac's site?  It has the sku right in the middle of the page as well.   

ZOTAC GAMING GEFORCE RTX 3070 AMP HOLO LHR
SKU ZT-A30700F-10PLHR

No I didn't. Many manufacturers don't state SKU on their websites, this was my point.

[philipma1957]

It will vary country to country I am sure some will switch to lhr faster.

I know Evga will be all Lhr in about 30-45 days.

the exception will be the 3090 models.

I post a lot on a thread setup for the evga waiting list.

So I am in touch with their products.

I will grab 1 or 2 lhr cards at most.

the two 3060 i got do 37 on smos linux which does make money.

say 4-8 a day for two cards all of march april may june or 480-960 which is 720 in coin for 820 usd.

I am 100 off the pay off and I could get 500 each for them last i looked.

that means I am 900 ahead on two evga 3060 purchased at msrp .

[adaseb]

Another reason why they might of done this OR why they released those "mining only GPUs without video outputs" years ago is because they are worried that one day, say when ETH actually goes POS, and you can't mine anything for a decent profit there will be a ultra high supply of GPUs on the second hand market which could hurt their new sales.

Basically say its 50% cheaper to buy a used mining GPU than a new GPU, most gamers will go the used route and it'll hurt the new retail sales for Nvidia products. By making these "mining only" GPUs those wouldnt hurt their future sales because gamers wouldn't buy those GPUs.