Stupid questions about thé begining of bitcoin

[mimi84]

Hello everybody,
I have some questions about bitcoin.

1/ Is it possible that the first programme to create bitcoin pas not bitcoin ( core, qt or what ever) but Windows itself? With an internal program like a dll or something like that?
So there where no wallet.dat in this case i imagine but an other form of file to stock datas.

2/ Is it possible that the first hashes were web pages but not only? Was it possible to hash  some lusic or some pictures etc to create bitcoins?

3/Was the B of bitcoin the first symbol uses to figure it? Was it possible to use an other like a square or something else?

Thanks 🙂

[BlackHatCoiner]

1/ Is it possible that the first programme to create bitcoin pas not bitcoin ( core, qt or what ever) but Windows itself? With an internal program like a dll or something like that?
So there where no wallet.dat in this case i imagine but an other form of file to stock datas.

It was saving the information in a wallet.dat file if we're talking about the same version (0.1). Here, try it yourself: bitcoin-0.1.0.rar. Not sure that I've fully understood your question, though; you tell me.

2/ Is it possible that the first hashes were web pages but not only? Was it possible to hash  some lusic or some pictures etc to create bitcoins?

To what hashes are you referring in? To addresses' or to mining's hashes? In SHA256, it is possible to hash anything that can be represented in bits and is not longer than 2⁶⁴ - 1 bits.

3/Was the B of bitcoin the first symbol uses to figure it? Was it possible to use an other like a square or something else?

I think the first symbol was ฿. That was the icon in v0.1.0:

[kaggie]

Hello everybody,
I have some questions about bitcoin.

1/ Is it possible that the first programme to create bitcoin pas not bitcoin ( core, qt or what ever) but Windows itself? With an internal program like a dll or something like that?
So there where no wallet.dat in this case i imagine but an other form of file to stock datas.

2/ Is it possible that the first hashes were web pages but not only? Was it possible to hash  some lusic or some pictures etc to create bitcoins?

3/Was the B of bitcoin the first symbol uses to figure it? Was it possible to use an other like a square or something else?

Thanks 🙂

1/ Satoshi had to develop somewhere, so the first iterations were without the gui. Bitcoin-core, when bitcoin started, was released at the same time that bitcoin started.

2/  It's possible to create a hash from everything. You don't need bitcoin-core, bitcoin qt, or other bitcoin gui to do this. Keys are literally any 64 bytes, signed with a hash. It could be the parts of a photo.

(Here, though, you have to watch out that early versions of wallets and even modern wallets give a non-intuitive understanding of what keys are and how they are handled after a transaction.)

3/  The bitcoin symbol changed a little bit after it was introduced. It could have been anything, but coins are often a circle. https://decrypt.co/43923/bitcoins-logo-the-story-of-the-big-orange-b

[mimi84]

Thanks for your answers guys/girls.
So at the very begining, it's theoriticaly possible that there were no wallet ?
But just some downloaded files?
And hypotheticaly is it possible that there where not really prefix hex Key as we use to see ( 0201010420)?

[kaggie]

Before the beginning, there would not have been a wallet. But after the software was developed, and when bitcoin started with its first block, there were wallets as linked above.

No, the prefix hex key 0201010420 was not used for keys in the beginning. The prefix was "80" for keys.

[mimi84]

Thank you🙂. Sorry but i continue with my questions. So let's say someone want to search a Key from the very begining in a disk. What hex value does he/she have to search to identify a Key?
I think that you could imagine that 80 will appears lot of Times

[kaggie]

A key can be anything, so there is no way to identify what a key can or can't be.

A signed key depends on how its format.  I don't know enough about the different formats to answer your question.

You could search for a wallet, which has "b1" about 10 bytes in -- if unencrypted. But this can produce a lot of false hits.

[mindrust]

Hello everybody,
I have some questions about bitcoin.

1/ Is it possible that the first programme to create bitcoin pas not bitcoin ( core, qt or what ever) but Windows itself? With an internal program like a dll or something like that?
So there where no wallet.dat in this case i imagine but an other form of file to stock datas.

2/ Is it possible that the first hashes were web pages but not only? Was it possible to hash  some lusic or some pictures etc to create bitcoins?

3/Was the B of bitcoin the first symbol uses to figure it? Was it possible to use an other like a square or something else?

Thanks 🙂

Your 1st question is not clear.

Q #2: again not clear.

Q #3: You can use whatever symbol you like. Bitcoin has no central authority. You can choose to call bitcoin "mojo" and nobody will care.

[mimi84]

Excuse me Mindrust.
I don't understand what IS not clear in my questions.
Two persons answers me well. Not completely but well.
I am just asking, supposing about bitcoin.
So has a legendary i imagine that you can advise me precisely.
What do you want me to clarify if i was not enough clear 🙂?

[kaggie]

You can also search for the phrases "key!" and "keymeta!" to identify a file.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22697.0

[mimi84]

Thank you for yours answers🙂. Sorry i didn't see that the post where moved.
So if i follow the linked post you forwarded me . I can see the protocol to search. I was more instrugated by the hex sequence 80 before the key. Do you know when it changed or where i can find ( if it exist) documentation from the very begining? I see on the history of this forum dates on begining 2010 but the peoject started at least in 2007 and the white papee was published in october 2008. I saw program go live in begining 2009. But lets say i was not perfect. And there where an other way to "mine" . Would the protocol be the same you forwarded me in you link?
Thanks

[khaled0111]

I saw program go live in begining 2009. But lets say i was not perfect. And there where an other way to "mine" . Would the protocol be the same you forwarded me in you link?
Thanks

Another way to mine what? The first block (aka genisis block) was created on January 2009. It was hard-coded not mined btw. All other blocks on the blockchain were mined after that date otherwise we should be talking about another blockchain. Surely, Satoshi's made few experiences and mined few blocks (privately) before releasing the first version of bitcoin core. But, afaik, there are no public copies of what he was working on before that.
If you are interested in the history of bitcoin, take a look at this website: http://satoshinakamoto.me/

[clorasteinberg]

The answer to your first two questions is yes. The first symbol was something else. Though, I haven’t seen it but have heard about it.