Poor and middle class as a mentality

[tulusikhlas]

As a result, the poor and even middle class have to jump over one real barrier, their lack of funds, and more importantly, like the Elephant that learns young that he cannot break the chains and never tries again, over their own state of mind, their own prison set by the terms of those who trying to help taught them to avoid anything but doing the same that keeps them poor.

All rooted in the problem of the education system and curriculum applied, social status in learning must be put aside and assume that children have the same position in acquiring knowledge.
let's think about the education system in Finland (ONE OF THE WORLD'S NO.1 BEST COUNTRIES IN IMPLEMENTING AN EDUCATION SYSTEM), are they given official demands and rules when they study? NOT !!!!!
here there are several advantages that need to be used as examples for other countries, one of which I will try to mention: the quality of education which is one of the advantages of the education system there. teachers earn higher salaries than teachers in other countries. Teachers do not give much homework (PR) to students. in a day students study they have a lag time to study 75 minutes of rest time.

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[redsun114]

Well, it is kind of that. That’s why as a person you also have to do your own research, and learn about things yourself without having to rely on what you’re being taught in schools and the rest of them. And also as parents I think it up to the parents to help in educating their children the right way. It’s good to ask them and know what they are being taught in school and correct the things you feel should be corrected, immediately. That way you will be helping to shape them into becoming a better person.

No parents should be wishing for their children to be at the same level they are, you should wish your children a better level than where you are, so it’s important that you work towards helping them achieve that and have a better life in future.

As a person who is planning to have a kid soon, that is the scary part, the parents play a big role in a kid no matter how great education they get. You can give a kid the best education in the whole world, the best schools from 5 years old to 30 years old (with masters and doctorate if they want to) and yet if the parents are bad parents (you don't have to be a bad person to be a bad parent neither) then the kid will not grow up with full potential.

Knowing that should make every parent very scared, my kid has this 100% potential that he/she can reach if I can unlock it for them but maybe I will do something wrong and will never let them be that great. This is not about poor or middle class or being super wealthy, you can be the richest person in the world and maybe you will not be able to still give your kid what they want, which is the big trouble.

[arallmuus]

As a result, the poor and even middle class have to jump over one real barrier, their lack of funds, and more importantly, like the Elephant that learns young that he cannot break the chains and never tries again

Its a lifelong process to overcome that 'barrier'. Imagine taking a small leap at the time, you will eventually get to the higher steps. Even if you cant overcome that 'barrier' atleast your offspring wouldnt have to start over again. The 'barrier' is actually not limited to economy factor but most of the time, economy factor will define the next steps for the middle class

The mentality of the people that belongs to different economic classes really varies.

If you are not from the higher economy class then you would have alot of concern regarding money most of the time but even if you came from a high economy class, you might have concern about making alot more as well

[Gyfts]

For example, in a school of a country that does not give opportunity to its people, where most of the students are poor, it is unlikely that the teachers will induce them to think big or have big dreams...more likely they will aim to keep them apart from drugs, avoid problems with the government and try to imbue some basic skill for life. The ultra-poor do not even get that - which actually may be better.

Just for the fact that we don't live in a classless society, people are bound to have better opportunities/stand better chances of success than others even right from birth, even ones country of birth other than the immediate family plays a part in that, it's much better to be born in a developed country than an underdeveloped one, but even having said that, it doesn't mean than if one is privileged to have such advantages that they outrightly will be better than those who are not, of course their chances are higher, but they still have work to do on their own path, thus even people from poor backgrounds/underprivileged countries still break the chain and achieve success, hardwork has a lot to play in success, though a good background makes things a whole lot easier.

This is what I say to people that believe equity should be guaranteed. Yes, people have an easier pathway in life. This applies to everyone. If you were born in a first world country, you immediately outpace over 50 percent of the world population in terms of your projected income and life expectancy. You can put individuals that are competent and work hard in tough life situations, a lot of the times they will find their way out. Doesn't mean it'll be easy.

[wxa7115]

In most of the countries, all thise kids are growing with a mentality of study well so that you can get a good job then you can work from 9 to 5 for the next 40 years then you will get retirement. This is actually living like a slave in my opinion, do something that can change your life which can be realized if you are in a roch society or when we notice what rich people are doing.

That's how the masters of this world wants it, to give people education that is enough for them to do the job but not enough to be mad about being an employee. Yes your opinion is right, it is a modern day slavery, they just wouldn't talk about it that way because it's bad for the business. Sometimes the fault doesn't lie on the poor but the exploitative capitalist regime.

Another problem is the lack of financial education which to me is incredibly suspicious, I am not trying to diminish other subjects however if there is one thing that we know people will have to use is money, and yet the education system does not teach you how to make the best use of it.

As such each person tries to do the best they can with the little knowledge they have and when we have so many ads on the media trying to make people to indebt themselves then they fall and begin a spiral from which they cannot escape, financial education should be mandatory and people should learn about interest rates, fiat money and other knowledge related to that, but since this goes against the interests of the governments and other powerful institutions this does not happen, which leads to a life of hardship in which most people have to work for the rest of their lives in a system not that much different from slavery.

[Chato1977]

Another problem is the lack of financial education which to me is incredibly suspicious, I am not trying to diminish other subjects however if there is one thing that we know people will have to use is money, and yet the education system does not teach you how to make the best use of it.

Exactly because this must be learned from inside the family because nothing can be the best example from financial education but the people that we live in so yeah it is indeed.

As such each person tries to do the best they can with the little knowledge they have and when we have so many ads on the media trying to make people to indebt themselves then they fall and begin a spiral from which they cannot escape,

at least little by little people must learn or else live in desperation and stupidity all your life.

[molsewid]

Another problem is the lack of financial education which to me is incredibly suspicious, I am not trying to diminish other subjects however if there is one thing that we know people will have to use is money, and yet the education system does not teach you how to make the best use of it.

As such each person tries to do the best they can with the little knowledge they have and when we have so many ads on the media trying to make people to indebt themselves then they fall and begin a spiral from which they cannot escape, financial education should be mandatory and people should learn about interest rates, fiat money and other knowledge related to that, but since this goes against the interests of the governments and other powerful institutions this does not happen, which leads to a life of hardship in which most people have to work for the rest of their lives in a system not that much different from slavery.

This is based on my own perception and my own experienced too as being born and raised in a poor family. My parents can only afford to sent us in a public school because that is what they can only give us but I am so lucky enough to be able to go to a higher level of education, my parents would always say that we need to study well and finished it so we can find a good job but now I realized that we don't just only need to be educated as a person but most importantly Financial Literacy is a must. It should be the top priority of everyone of us because there are many well-educated person who don't know how to manage their income.

[Kittygalore]

what kind of country was that if they dont give any oppurtunity to its people ? but i believe every country even the corrupted ones have done something to its country .
people should not totally depend on the government but they must act on their own too if they want to succeed .
in poorer country , people were encourage to dream and think big because this helps them to change thier lives .

Probably an active warzone country will not be able to give opportunity to it's people because they are geared for war and instability is rampant and pretty much impossible to do work since there's a lot of fatal interference happening, imagine if the case was that they gave away jobs in an active warzone, pretty sure that a lot of people will not make it another day because bombs will be dropping anywhere. Poverty is a mixture of social, political and economical problem and those three things don't want to work together even though can to solve the problem.

[KevinRosa]

The difference between the poor, the middle class and the rich is not determined by income, but by consumption. The poor mainly consumes, the middle class mainly uses loans, and the middle class actually gets more loans than the poor. Let us first look at the flow of money for the poor: work→get wages→pay living expenses→less left. The life of the poor is mainly "consumption", all the money earned is spent, and nothing is left in the end. Therefore, basic economic conditions and doctrines determine their education level and lifestyle. Sometimes they have no right to choose, and their ideology is completely different due to differences in educational experience. It seems that their future lifestyle has been locked in. Determining wealth, intuitively speaking, may be because the school is different, but the connotation is completely different. The attitude and mentality towards life are completely different. For example, the child of a mouse may be born to dig a hole instead of trying to find a way to fly. The education that the poor receive may be able to maintain their own life or survival skills in the future, but it is difficult to rule out a single case.

[RainbowKun]

When we come into this world alone, it is difficult for us to decide our origin. We were born in a developed country, in a rich family, or in a poor country or a poorer family. This is something we cannot decide, it is innate.

But we can decide what kind of mentality we should treat our own lives. If a child from a poor family can be positive and optimistic, he can also go to a better university through continuous learning, find a decent job, and get a more exciting life.
If a child from a wealthy family is not proactive, he may not accomplish anything in his career.

Of course, the starting point of children from rich families is better than that of children from poor families, and the chance of success is greater. This is the current situation of our time. The gap between the rich and the poor is getting worse in some countries or regions. This is also the main contradiction that exists in our current society.

However, it is precisely based on this that Bitcoin has given the children of poor families a channel to change their destiny and achieve class leap. In the past, all resources and funds were controlled by centralized institutions or wealthy groups, who used this to gain more wealth and power. However, Bitcoin is effective enough to break this point and break the centralized monopoly.

In the end, all of this, in the final analysis, still depends on each of us's own cognition.

Therefore, the internal subjective initiative more determines the possibility of success. Everything depends on yourself!

[bitcoin-shine]

Poor people often feel that they have no money, so they rarely use spare money to invest, rarely learn related professional skills, and rarely meet more friends and broaden their social contacts.
Because I don’t think I have time, I only pay attention to the immediate things, and it’s hard to think about things in the long term. They often think like this. The current things are big enough, and I will talk about the future things later.
The wealth of the rich is only appearance, what really matters is social resources and high-quality contacts. The rich have the capital to stand on the shoulders of giants, and most of the poor have inherited their parents’ complaints about society and inherited their parents’ poverty.
The vision and mentality of the rich and the poor are also different, and the rich often win at the starting line.

[clippers]

This is a difficult thing to change. For the poor and middle class, if you don’t teach them how to survive in the world, you can’t talk about helping them set their ideals in life. According to the hierarchical theory of needs, only by satisfying basic physiological needs can we pursue the next goal in life.

I admit that some people have achieved great success through their own efforts, even if their family background is not good, such as Clement Stone. However, the percentage of success from poor and middle class is still far lower than that of children who grew up in families composed of parents with higher education.

By the way, this is the Bitcoin forum, I think cryptocurrency is the best opportunity for ordinary people in the world to cross classes. Spend time to learn the knowledge of cryptocurrency and improve your own cognition. The knowledge and wealth you can obtain far exceeds that of other industries.

[Tristan Bieber]

In many cases, it is to teach by example. Parents’ conversations, insights, and opinions all unknowingly affect their children. A child at the bottom of society may also be very smart, but his parents are not able to guide him well in all aspects. Although he is smart, after all his age and experience are there, he can only explore it slowly. And some children of successful people in society skip the exploration stage and get resources and guidance directly from their parents. And subconsciously imitated the way parents deal with problems. As the days go by, it is natural to see you immediately. Charm comes from confidence.

[Scarlett7777]

Poor and rich are social problems that all countries have.  In the book I read entitled "Zakat", it is said that the solution for the poor and the rich is zakat, in the wealth of the rich there is a right for the poor 2.5% of the total because the essence of man was created to be a leader, when he is well off and has wealth.  If there is excess, then look at your family first, when your family is poor, in your property there is the right of your family and it is obligatory for you to give it.  When your family is prosperous then look at your surroundings, if your neighbor is poor, your neighbor has rights in your property and it is obligatory for you to give it.  When is it said that you are obliged to pay zakat for the poor, when your wealth has met the nisab (rules for calculating it), that is, your wealth is equivalent to 85 grams of gold.  With this zakat, wealth will be distributed to the needy according to the proportion so that human life becomes prosperous.

In the final analysis, the difference between the poor and the rich is the difference in cultural attributes. It exists in people's minds, invisible and intangible, but dominates your words and deeds, and it is difficult for you to realize it.
It can be said vividly: "Your clothing, food, shelter, deeds, and words are everywhere reflecting your basic level from the side."
That is, through your behavior, you can see what is in your bones at a glance, you don't need to deliberately cover up, because it is meaningless!
Generally speaking, a person's education, living environment and experience can determine a person's cultural attributes.


In the final analysis, the difference between the poor and the rich is the difference in cultural attributes. It exists in people's minds, invisible and intangible, but dominates your words and deeds, and it is difficult for you to realize it.
It can be said vividly: "Your clothing, food, shelter, deeds, and words are everywhere reflecting your basic level from the side."
That is, through your behavior, you can see what is in your bones at a glance, you don't need to deliberately cover up, because it is meaningless!
Generally speaking, a person's education, living environment and experience can determine a person's cultural attributes.

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[jrrsparkles]

In most of the countries, all thise kids are growing with a mentality of study well so that you can get a good job then you can work from 9 to 5 for the next 40 years then you will get retirement. This is actually living like a slave in my opinion, do something that can change your life which can be realized if you are in a roch society or when we notice what rich people are doing.

That's how the masters of this world wants it, to give people education that is enough for them to do the job but not enough to be mad about being an employee. Yes your opinion is right, it is a modern day slavery, they just wouldn't talk about it that way because it's bad for the business. Sometimes the fault doesn't lie on the poor but the exploitative capitalist regime.

Another problem is the lack of financial education which to me is incredibly suspicious, I am not trying to diminish other subjects however if there is one thing that we know people will have to use is money, and yet the education system does not teach you how to make the best use of it.

As such each person tries to do the best they can with the little knowledge they have and when we have so many ads on the media trying to make people to indebt themselves then they fall and begin a spiral from which they cannot escape, financial education should be mandatory and people should learn about interest rates, fiat money and other knowledge related to that, but since this goes against the interests of the governments and other powerful institutions this does not happen, which leads to a life of hardship in which most people have to work for the rest of their lives in a system not that much different from slavery.

But we are in 21st century, we have internet and wikipedia so that we can learn about anything if we are willing to do it but all people are addicted to other things like media, entertainment, movies, etc so they never have time to learn anything new that is why they are living in a cycle which don't let them to realize what rich people are doing in this world.

[wahyu wida]

In most of the countries, all thise kids are growing with a mentality of study well so that you can get a good job then you can work from 9 to 5 for the next 40 years then you will get retirement. This is actually living like a slave in my opinion, do something that can change your life which can be realized if you are in a roch society or when we notice what rich people are doing.

That's how the masters of this world wants it, to give people education that is enough for them to do the job but not enough to be mad about being an employee. Yes your opinion is right, it is a modern day slavery, they just wouldn't talk about it that way because it's bad for the business. Sometimes the fault doesn't lie on the poor but the exploitative capitalist regime.

Another problem is the lack of financial education which to me is incredibly suspicious, I am not trying to diminish other subjects however if there is one thing that we know people will have to use is money, and yet the education system does not teach you how to make the best use of it.

As such each person tries to do the best they can with the little knowledge they have and when we have so many ads on the media trying to make people to indebt themselves then they fall and begin a spiral from which they cannot escape, financial education should be mandatory and people should learn about interest rates, fiat money and other knowledge related to that, but since this goes against the interests of the governments and other powerful institutions this does not happen, which leads to a life of hardship in which most people have to work for the rest of their lives in a system not that much different from slavery.

But we are in 21st century, we have internet and wikipedia so that we can learn about anything if we are willing to do it but all people are addicted to other things like media, entertainment, movies, etc so they never have time to learn anything new that is why they are living in a cycle which don't let them to realize what rich people are doing in this world.

Rich people have a good environment to develop their wealth, so what they talk about also has content that supports it too. On the other hand, their mentality is that of entrepreneurs, because they are in an entrepreneur environment that they see every day, and this is what they unconsciously form to become entrepreneurs

[ChiBitCTy]

Some people are born rich or moderately rich, some are born middle class and some are born poor or extremely poor. All these conditions come along with a set of survival guides that the parents, relatives and even teachers will pass along as a map of life. For example, in a school of a country that does not give opportunity to its people, where most of the students are poor, it is unlikely that the teachers will induce them to think big or have big dreams...more likely they will aim to keep them apart from drugs, avoid problems with the government and try to imbue some basic skill for life. The ultra-poor do not even get that - which actually may be better.

In a preppy school, where most of the students are rich-born, the conversation is quite different. Culture, life, opportunity, spirit-de-corps and class mentality are imbued in the same manner, so the kids will somehow justify in their minds that they have the right to be rich even if they have not done anything for anyone in their lives - perhaps not even for themselves - because of some Darwinian property of cosmos.

As a result, the poor and even middle class have to jump over one real barrier, their lack of funds, and more importantly, like the Elephant that learns young that he cannot break the chains and never tries again, over their own state of mind, their own prison set by the terms of those who trying to help taught them to avoid anything but doing the same that keeps them poor.

I would have to agree with your beginning assessment, that sadly poorer nations tend to provide a much lesser form of schooling or even next to no schooling at all.  

However when it comes to how you called " In a preppy school, where most of the student are rich-born, the conversation is quite different.  Culture, life, opportunity, spirit-de-corps and class mentality are imbued in the same manner, so the kids will somehow justify in their minds that they have the right to be rich even if they have not done anything for anyone in their lives - perhaps not even for themselves - because of some Darwinian property of cosmos."  This is a bunch of nonsense.  I went to one of those "preppy schools" and that is not at all how any of us felt.  Well correction, that is not how 95% of us felt.  I grew up wealthy but thanks to good parenting I never thought of myself as entitled or more deserving of anything over anyone else.  We weren't not taught entitlement in those schools.  We simply had more resources for a better education.  I resent this statement if I am being honest because it is a perceived notion that is utterly false and judgmental.  

[Yatsan]

The mentality of thinking that you belong into the social class of poor/low class and middle class is just normal and that is where you develop into thinking possible ways on how you can improve your life into surviving life's challenges to get you into the upper class level that you wanted to be. The talks about social class, the biases and disadvantages that have been coined into those classes have already been normalized for years that brings up the discrimination between social classes making people strive hard and do everything they can to at least improve or better to surpass the life they have been born with so that the next generation of their family will not suffer the same fate they have experienced before.

[pinggoki]

Let us face the reality that there is really a person who is born with a poor, rich, or in a middle-class family and the thing is that those who born by a poor family needs to strive hard in order for him to be rich and be successful someday unlike those who are rich people they just need to follow the steps of their parents in order to be richer than their parents or even surpass it. That must be the mentality of each person in order to succeed in life.

[Viscore]

Let us face the reality that there is really a person who is born with a poor, rich, or in a middle-class family and the thing is that those who born by a poor family needs to strive hard in order for him to be rich and be successful someday unlike those who are rich people they just need to follow the steps of their parents in order to be richer than their parents or even surpass it. That must be the mentality of each person in order to succeed in life.

But the sad reality particularly in most millenials today is that those who are poor or middle class inborn are less likely to think positive things in life compared to the rich men. They never go out from their comfort zone and so they will only end up even poorer with their parents but rich people eventually work hard like being hands on in their family business to sustain the status of their living. The poor mindset of the poor people will definitely put them in a more worst life's situation.