Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey agree to talk about bitcoin at an event in July

[franky1]

windfury you have no clue

and when people have no clue. they throw out a rebuttal of victim carding
and get their buddy the rebuttal for them (social drama to distract topic)

you and doomad are just the replacement dramaqueen of carlton and lauda
lauda is your clone. his buzzword was adhom/. yours is gaslight but both you are playing the same ignorance game and cry victim game when you cant think of a real answer

your not original nor can you even grasp whats really involved in bitcoin
i get it your a PR person for another network
you have gone to some extremes of trying to portray anyone that wants onchain scaling to be some other brand/group/opposition to bitcoin. while then you still promote your other network as bitcoin

your not that smart and its clear what your motivations are.
all you and doomad care about is saying if anyone wants scaling they should offramp to an altnet or fork off to an altcoin

such idiot methodology to avoid scaling bitcoin

and windfury.
your fantasy mission promotion of wanting more full nodes. but less utility for those full nodes to actually use bitcoin.. is a mission that wont win.. so stop fantasising about it
if you want more fullnodes. more people need access to transactions on bitcoin to monitor.. not less
(your not going to want to monitor bitcoin 24/7 if your funds are locked and wont move for 3 months)

have one independant thought not cast down on you by institutional influencers
you as a normal working man with no custodial service, no institutional level customer base..
you have been advocating you want bitcoin to be just for institutional/custodial reserve usage which means you are not then able to use bitcoin onchain anytime you like for yourself
ask yourself why are you shooting yourself in the foot being coaxed to use another network.

why are you saying you want to stop yourself from having the freedom of using onchain anytime for yourself

[ik5656]

Elon musk have a jockey person in crypto field. He always Thinking his own profit. Some of time says Bitcoin is Futher of World money and another time Bitcoin Is Very Ricsk.Totally Elon Musk Funny person

[ven7net]

Now many are talking about this meeting, but what can give the crypto market, namely BTC Elon Musk? We have all already witnessed how he skillfully influenced the crypto market and the price of BTC and Dogecoin thanks to his statements. I think this meeting looks more like another manipulation after the market went down. I think that fewer and fewer people trust Elon Musk, which means that now many will be careful about his statements.

[ChiBitCTy]

My whole thing now is why does anyone even care what Elon Musk thinks when it comes to bitcoin or cryptocurrency for that matter.  There are two trains of thought in my opinion when it comes to Elon and cryptocurrency.. 1) Elon is a market manipulator and is using crypto/bitcoin to make money and that's it  2) Elon truly doesn't know shit about bitcoin/crypto and therefore his words/remarks have to legitimate baring on anything.  For example you're telling me Elon had no idea about bitcoins environmental impact after purchasing a billion dollars worth? 

[Spack17]

They talked and there were some interesting results at the end. Elon Musk said that he would start accepting payment with Bitcoin at Tesla again if more than 50% of Bitcoin mining is being made by renewable energies. And he talked about his and his company's investments into crypto also. He said that SpaceX owns Bitcoin also. But it doesn't look like this meeting affected Bitcoin price much.

[so98nn]

This news came out in june? Really? Last time I checked Elon was all into DOGE screwing the peeps wallet everywhere. Lolz. This is the same period when he is now  talking with Dorsey regarding what the bitcoin value which he lost when he was having an affair with the other coin?

They talked and there were some interesting results at the end. Elon Musk said that he would start accepting payment with Bitcoin at Tesla again if more than 50% of Bitcoin mining is being made by renewable energies. And he talked about his and his company's investments into crypto also. He said that SpaceX owns Bitcoin also. But it doesn't look like this meeting affected Bitcoin price much.

Completely screwed = The popularity of Elon's Tweets and Peeps faith in the DOGE/BTC. The market is now not responding because of many other factors too. The china is bigger version of that.

Though Elon's speech was ineffective, it has now put DOGE investors in ambiguity as well. They are all like needle in the haystack, all lost and can only be found if Elon really keeps his promise of launching 2022 project with DOGE.

BTC - well, it need green energy otherwise they gonna eat it out badly.

[ShowOff]

They talked and there were some interesting results at the end. Elon Musk said that he would start accepting payment with Bitcoin at Tesla again if more than 50% of Bitcoin mining is being made by renewable energies. And he talked about his and his company's investments into crypto also. He said that SpaceX owns Bitcoin also. But it doesn't look like this meeting affected Bitcoin price much.

He want to accept bitcoin again for Tesla? I think he really want bitcoin to be able to influence Tesla sale after this. Bitcoin investor and trader so far seem unlikely to react much before or after their meeting. I know that there was an increase in the price of bitcoin before the meeting but not on a large scale. Elon Musk's influence in the market seem very weak this time if we look at how the attitude of trader and investor are responding to this news.

[Wakate]

The talk between Elon musk of Tesla and Dorsey of Tweeter about Bitcoin is surprising to me and I  don't their motive is to contribute to the acceptance of Bitcoin since he claimed that Bitcoin mining has so much effects on the dwellers of this planet Earth. Why do they still want to talk about it when many traders are angry about the current fall of Bitcoin.

[DarkDays]

My whole thing now is why does anyone even care what Elon Musk thinks when it comes to bitcoin or cryptocurrency for that matter.  There are two trains of thought in my opinion when it comes to Elon and cryptocurrency.. 1) Elon is a market manipulator and is using crypto/bitcoin to make money and that's it  2) Elon truly doesn't know shit about bitcoin/crypto and therefore his words/remarks have to legitimate baring on anything.  For example you're telling me Elon had no idea about bitcoins environmental impact after purchasing a billion dollars worth? 

I must say while I get that Elon is a public figure and has a lot of influence I don't get his involvement in crypto. Yes, he backs doge coin as a 'funny' coin but he's no expert in the field and I don't see why everyone hangs on every word he says.

Sure, he has got BTC, ETH and DOGE but who doesn't own crypto these days... I just don't agree with him becoming a figure for crypto when there's so much more to it than just holding a coin and tweeting about it.

[Wind_FURY]

windfury you have no clue

Either I have no clue, or you simply believe the people who don’t agree with you “have no clue”. You have been gaslighting and spreading disinformation. Why would I agree with you, “just to have a clue”?

and when people have no clue. they throw out a rebuttal of victim carding
and get their buddy the rebuttal for them (social drama to distract topic)

Drama? Where?

you and doomad are just the replacement dramaqueen of carlton and lauda
lauda is your clone. his buzzword was adhom/. yours is gaslight but both you are playing the same ignorance game and cry victim game when you cant think of a real answer

I am the stupid one. You are doing Carlton and Lauda a disservice, ser.

your not original nor can you even grasp whats really involved in bitcoin

YOU are original, I’m merely a learner. A stupid learner.

i get it your a PR person for another network
you have gone to some extremes of trying to portray anyone that wants onchain scaling to be some other brand/group/opposition to bitcoin. while then you still promote your other network as bitcoin

No, you branded yourself for gaslighting. Plus I never branded you, but those people in your trust rating did.

your not that smart and its clear what your motivations are.

I’m the stupid one, yes.

all you and doomad care about is saying if anyone wants scaling they should offramp to an altnet or fork off to an altcoin

such idiot methodology to avoid scaling bitcoin

Why do you always post statements like that? That might have worked during 2016, but the newbies are smarter now, franky1.

and windfury.
your fantasy mission promotion of wanting more full nodes. but less utility for those full nodes to actually use bitcoin.. is a mission that wont win.. so stop fantasising about it
if you want more fullnodes. more people need access to transactions on bitcoin to monitor.. not less
(your not going to want to monitor bitcoin 24/7 if your funds are locked and wont move for 3 months)

Are you fantasizing that gigameg blocks would win?

have one independant thought not cast down on you by institutional influencers
you as a normal working man with no custodial service, no institutional level customer base..
you have been advocating you want bitcoin to be just for institutional/custodial reserve usage which means you are not then able to use bitcoin onchain anytime you like for yourself
ask yourself why are you shooting yourself in the foot being coaxed to use another network.

why are you saying you want to stop yourself from having the freedom of using onchain anytime for yourself

Why don’t YOU have one independent thought, and not thoughts cast down on you by Roger Ver, or Craig Wright.

[Gcrypto786]

I must say while I get that Elon is a public figure and has a lot of influence I don't get his involvement in crypto. Yes, he backs doge coin as a 'funny' coin but he's no expert in the field and I don't see why everyone hangs on every word he says.

Sure, he has got BTC, ETH and DOGE but who doesn't own crypto these days... I just don't agree with him becoming a figure for crypto when there's so much more to it than just holding a coin and tweeting about it.

Elon Musk is a public figure as well as a Crypto Market manipulator, people like Elon are considered as big Whales in Trading Market as they have the power to move the market as he did for Dogecoin.

[yohananaomi]

This is July 22 already and I don't think anything they might have to say is influencing anything anymore. I have not even been getting acquainted with any information related to him as I am not interested. Either the talk comes up or not, bitcoin is here to stay despite how they try to manipulate their follower nor the market.

may feel the past can influence and manipulate his followers and now try again, but everyone already knows the character that is done and it is no longer easy to be able to influence this time, it is clear that the estimated date has passed, nothing happened and we should end people like this to influence crypto developments and don't listen to what is said let alone follow it. Enough is enough and everyone finally knows what the desired goal is, personal gain.

[Dannaey]

Many people do not care about Elon Musk already because how he impacted Bitcoin prices that affected and loses billions of dollars in trading. I understand the frustration. But then, I believe we can take an advantage on riding the prices whenever what Elon Musk is talking about in his twitter. Maybe we can just go with the flow and take profit. 

[randegibran]

we certainly expect a lot from the talks they have for the crypto world, even though we know that yes it will only add a lot of plates, not for the common good but many people are not starting to care about what they will talk about in this regard, because we I have seen so clearly that there is a lot of evidence so far from the meeting that it has not had any impact on bringing changes to the crypto world, especially regarding the issue of the bitcoin price which has not yet stabilized.

[WePiggy]

The meeting has helped to switch the market sentiment to a more bullish one. It may not be the only reason we are seeing green now, but it certainly helped. With this in mind we should hope to see more of these gatherings in the future and perhaps invite other Bitcoiners like Plan B, Pomp, the w twins, CZ etc..

[livingfree]

Many people do not care about Elon Musk already because how he impacted Bitcoin prices that affected and loses billions of dollars in trading. I understand the frustration. But then, I believe we can take an advantage on riding the prices whenever what Elon Musk is talking about in his twitter. Maybe we can just go with the flow and take profit. 

Again there will be those people that will care for his words again.

The market just came back and shows that it's recovery has been stable for a few days, yes just for a few days but that's already a lot to us. At the result of their meeting, that gave a positive sentiment to the market.

But for sure there will be people that won't care about his switch.

[uneng]

Crypto investors gave too much power to Musk and now it's too late. The guy will keep using and abusing the status given to him. That is a very negative point for bitcoin investment, at least on short run, because personally I don't want my investment hostage of an individual. The market should be driven by many different investors' actions and not by a single man's tweets that change opinions every few days.
It's clear as crystal Elon plays with his audience. Since the beginning he could have said he would accept bitcoin as payment method in Tesla if sustainable energy used in mining process was superior to 50%. He didn't need to start accepting it, then stop accepting it to finally say he would check the numbers. That is not a professional or responsible behavior. Avoid people like that.

[Twinkledoe]

The meeting has helped to switch the market sentiment to a more bullish one. It may not be the only reason we are seeing green now, but it certainly helped. With this in mind we should hope to see more of these gatherings in the future and perhaps invite other Bitcoiners like Plan B, Pomp, the w twins, CZ etc..

I believe, the conference really did have a positive impact in the market. Maybe people are gaining confidence again towards crypto. But I do agree, we need real crypto experts to be in this conference, because they know the ins and outs already and they can very well explain it to the public. Though Musk and Dorsey are pro-crypto, yet, they are not the right people to talk about crypto in more in depth discussions.

[OgNasty]

I think Elon's take was very practical and something that is perhaps lost on many without business experience in the Bitcoin community.  There is a problem with block congestion that hasn't been addressed well with a layer-1 solution.  From Tesla's perspective, they're fine with people storing a certain amount of their funds on Coinbase and using Coinbase to make everyday transactions with vendors.  That's a solution that works for them.  It isn't ideal for Bitcoin, but for many businessman this is a better solution than using a second layer because there is accountability instead of trust.

[Wind_FURY]

I think Elon's take was very practical and something that is perhaps lost on many without business experience in the Bitcoin community.  There is a problem with block congestion that hasn't been addressed well with a layer-1 solution.  From Tesla's perspective, they're fine with people storing a certain amount of their funds on Coinbase and using Coinbase to make everyday transactions with vendors.  That's a solution that works for them.  It isn't ideal for Bitcoin, but for many businessman this is a better solution than using a second layer because there is accountability instead of trust.

Tesla can use the current banking system for that, no need for Bitcoin.

I believe Elon Musk is still walking his own Bitcoin journey, learning and like everyone walking their own journey, their insights about Bitcoin and opinions change. Elon is not the first, and will not be the last.