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Asking the question if whales manipulate the market is just like asking do you have to drink water every day when you know you have to drink water to fuel the body, help the digestive enzymes to aid digestion. However, this always a big person that manipulates the market, and this is what always happens in every market, not in crypto alone.
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July 12, 2021, 11:00:50 PM |
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Most manipulation will involve the exchanges both for dump and pump, that is the reason for regular check of traders in the size of exchange i, the whales are usually positioned with good amount of bitcoin and fiat fund.
Exchanges holds a huge amount of money and can be consider as whales so technically, whales are indeed manipulating the market depends on the market sentiment. If there’s a hype, then they’ll pump it but if there’s a fud expect those whales to sell big time until the market becomes cheaper again. Whales will always be a whale who always play with money in favor to then, we should learn by now how to ride with them. exchanges could not sell their customer asset in balance as they want , this is will totally violate the law and ofcourse they have to face regulator due this accident. as i know whales was not exchanges, but a person or group of traders that have huge sources to manipulate market. they will follow hype , but they will create it till we trapped in their scenario.
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July 13, 2021, 04:31:38 AM |
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Do humans use air everyday? Of course they manipulating, they are whales its their point of trading
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July 13, 2021, 06:56:19 AM |
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Whales have the power to manipulate the market to a certain point likewise news either good or bad have the power to affect the market too, the thing is whales want profits too meaning no matter how rich they get they are never satisfied, you should know that Elon musk is now a crypto whale too, the more we have people like him in crypto space the more easier it gets to manipulate the market
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July 13, 2021, 07:13:20 AM |
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I don't think there's anything to do with this site and the whales. When conditions and situations are not good, I'm sure there will be various kinds of information that will make us even more anxious.
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July 13, 2021, 12:29:44 PM |
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Certainly yes! most of the whales are manipulating the market. That is why this rich people have an advantage to take profit here in this field of business industry in cryptocurrency. And they are obviously the manipulator as well to control the price too in all the exchange site platform.
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July 13, 2021, 01:33:12 PM |
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Do humans use air everyday? Of course they manipulating, they are whales its their point of trading
If you ask about humans who use air every day, then the answer is YES, because without air you can't live yourself, if you don't believe it, try holding your breath for half an hour. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Just like the whales, it is considered as one of the important part of crypto ecosystem, they move the market the way it should be and we badly needed them despite of them manipulating the market. This market will not grow without the whales, they have the money and power. They are manipulating the market, we should not panic instead learn from them, ride with them and earn profit with them this is the trend for years now. Perhaps, they have the reason why they live in crypto. Manipulation can be resulting in bad or good, disadvantages or advantages. We sometimes can say that manipulation ruins the market but instead, this helps people to make money out of the volatility of the market and helps the market to get known to everyone. But if you are unlucky and miss the train, you will end up losing.
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July 13, 2021, 01:39:29 PM |
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Technically, whales can shake the market but for a whole manipulation to happen, it needs everyone's cooperation so what they do is to trigger something, either uptrend, and downtrend, and that's it.
Bitcoin might be heavily manipulated before but today, we can see that it's not the case. The downtrend happened because others follow the speculations. It's not totally controlled by someone or some groups. It's just that, they triggered something to shake the market.
For low cap coins, we can say that these are heavily manipulated since there are lots of bagholders. They can shake the market just by doing a large buy and sells without the need for other's participation.
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July 13, 2021, 01:46:25 PM |
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I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
We don't need a chart to prove that there are manipulations going on the market, it's been there ever since the market is not fair there are whales and small fish and the small fish follows the whales where they are going, newbies should understand the manipulation that is going so they will avoid losses when investing. Knowing the updated information of the market it is much easier to understand the manipulation of whales. Newcomers are more vulnerable because they have less knowledge about the market invests without doing market analysis to make more profit.
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July 13, 2021, 02:00:37 PM |
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we know that.. for those who have capital is a guarantee to be able to dominate the market and this is a real law in any case ... does the pope maneuver the market by manipulating it ... I think it is very certain because you will not be satisfied with the results that are not optimal
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July 13, 2021, 02:44:07 PM |
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Of course the whales have the power to influence and manipulate the market whenever the see fit, they have the means to accumulate big bag of btc which is enough to influence the price, otherwise i don't see why the crypto space will be experience such price dump immediately a big, so definitely whales plays a vital role in this aspect.
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July 13, 2021, 04:34:36 PM |
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Of course the whales have the power to influence and manipulate the market whenever the see fit, they have the means to accumulate big bag of btc which is enough to influence the price, otherwise i don't see why the crypto space will be experience such price dump immediately a big, so definitely whales plays a vital role in this aspect.
because it is the whales who make the market stable. they buy and own large amounts of assets. and what is certain is that the whales do retain their assets in the long term. with very large asset holdings, of course, they have the ability to manipulate the market. lower the price to buy cheaper. and then make adoption increase and sell when the price reaches a new ATH.
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July 13, 2021, 06:36:19 PM |
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Technically, whales can shake the market but for a whole manipulation to happen, it needs everyone's cooperation so what they do is to trigger something, either uptrend, and downtrend, and that's it.
Bitcoin might be heavily manipulated before but today, we can see that it's not the case. The downtrend happened because others follow the speculations. It's not totally controlled by someone or some groups. It's just that, they triggered something to shake the market.
For low cap coins, we can say that these are heavily manipulated since there are lots of bagholders. They can shake the market just by doing a large buy and sells without the need for other's participation.
Manipulation causes literally that. Whales selling and buying to "speculate" is something else, whereas whales manipulating means they try to make you buy or sell as well, me or you (I assume) we are not whales but they put out news and other stuff that makes it look bad for example, and then we all end up selling and that is the thing. That is why we are talking about whales manipulating, as long as manipulation is something like this, then there is nothing small investors like us can do. At the end of the day we should not be shocked that whales are capable of doing that, spending about 20-30 thousand dollars means you could show absolutely the WHOLE crypto world any news you want, so you could "leak" a bad thing to whole world by paying that, causing prices to fall, and you may end up having 1 million dollars on short futures profiting tens of millions.
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July 18, 2021, 02:39:22 PM |
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I think whales not manipulated the market but give effect with thousand or hundred investor panic and take new position when good whales news, almost true happening when any new whale about good or bad news. You can check when got whales about bitcoin transfers from one wallet to exchange make bitcoin price dump, but you have to start buy position when got whales about thousand hundred USDT transfer from wallet to exchange like Binance or Huobi.
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July 18, 2021, 02:55:11 PM |
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They have the potential to manipulate the market because they have higher holdings. Whales become powerful enough to manipulate the market. Their movement have the higher impact in cryptocurrency. They can easily move the price.
right, besides that by having a lot of followers I think they will be easy to get them to be in tune with their thoughts. this happened just like Elon's behavior this year, he seemed to easily influence many bitcoiners, even new investors to participate in fomo, and finally he threw away his ownership and switched to memecoin, that's where we can understand the greatness of whales
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July 18, 2021, 03:11:41 PM |
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of course, because as you already know that crypto has no regulation, so people can have an unlimited number of bitcoins, even in one wallet account, not only bitcoin, but all types of altcoins, this is what makes the whales able to control the market
there are no regulations governing ownership tax and others do take ownership of an unlimited number of crypto assets very possible. even some whales that come usually keep their assets in several wallets. they have enough coins that they can make the market move with their abilities. buy when it's cheap which makes the price go up. then sell when it goes up which results in a decline. We have seen situations like this many times before. especially in meme assets, they move very quickly. some get rich quickly but some are quick to lose.
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July 18, 2021, 04:14:21 PM |
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I don't think it's easy to manipulate the market, but this potential continues to be carried out by irresponsible people, as a result the market is increasingly chaotic and out of control. Aren't the written rules so clear and don't ever try to break them? Why does this keep happening, isn't the strict supervision already a deterrent effect, I wonder why these people don't think about other people, wasting time in useless places is a decline in thinking. In my opinion, stricter supervision is needed, so that irresponsible people do not do anything arbitrarily, the effect of their treatment is not very good for the market.
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July 18, 2021, 04:30:13 PM |
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If this data is true of course they are easy to manipulate prices, this is certainly sad because crypto which is supposed to be decentralized but easy for whales to manipulate, there is nothing we can do but just hope they pump bitcoin again so the market rises again.
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July 18, 2021, 06:09:41 PM |
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Obviously yes, unfortunately the whales strongly manipulate the market when they sell they make the price go down but fortunately when they buy they make the price go up.
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July 19, 2021, 01:07:53 AM |
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Whales can and will manipulate the market majority to their favor . But this is not as often as you can imagine. There are several factors also to be consider as the what extent of price sacrificial would be to achieve gains in manipulations.
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