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June 30, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
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After a lifetime of observation I have gathered that normally the US doesn't prosecute its former presidents for anything after they leave office. First of all, its not nice; second of all, its not a good look for a country's government in general.

I'm wondering if Trump will be the exception to this rule as he did a lot of either blatantly illegal or at best highly questionable things as president...

Not that all presidents aren't faced with horrifying decisions in the dark, but some of the stuff he did was pretty outwardly stupid on the level of being a decent human being and I wouldn't be surprised if he was tried and convicted on any number of things.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-organization-and-cfo-allen-weisselberg-expected-to-be-charged-thursday-11625060765

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The Manhattan district attorney’s office is expected to charge the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer with tax-related crimes on Thursday, people familiar with the matter said, which would mark the first criminal charges against the former president’s company since prosecutors began investigating it three years ago.

Any charges against the Trump Organization and Allen Weisselberg, the company’s longtime chief financial officer, would be a blow to former President Donald Trump, who has fended off multiple criminal and civil probes during and after his presidency. But the initial charges won’t implicate Mr. Trump himself, his lawyer said, falling short of expectations about the high-profile probe that included a battle over his tax returns decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in the prosecutors’ favor.

The defendants are expected to appear in court on Thursday, the people said.

The Trump Organization and Mr. Weisselberg are expected to face charges related to allegedly evading taxes on fringe benefits, the people said. For months, the Manhattan district attorney’s office and New York state attorney general’s office have been investigating whether Mr. Weisselberg and other employees illegally avoided paying taxes on perks—such as cars, apartments and private-school tuition—that they received from the Trump Organization...

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June 30, 2021, 08:12:09 PM
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Everybody does illegal things, without even realizing it. It isn't the illegality. It's the fear that Trump might win in 2024. Get him permanently out of the way. Start now.

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July 03, 2021, 04:30:00 PM
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Everybody does illegal things, without even realizing it. It isn't the illegality. It's the fear that Trump might win in 2024. Get him permanently out of the way. Start now.

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"Everybody does illegal things"

Illegal like what? care to give me some of your illegal activities. xD

Anyway, everybody is applicable to all ordinary personnel out there, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS on the other hand are exempted to this everybody you are talking about. Just like what they've promised in front of all the people  Huh

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July 04, 2021, 02:08:35 AM
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^^^ Realize that if you don't know the legal or lawful way to protect yourself, you can be as negative as you want. Legal and lawful are first for protecting people against government. But you can't use what you don't know. And you seem to want to blab your ignorance all over this section of the forum.

Notice that while Trump was in office, they brought impeachment charges against him. It all turned into nothing. The impeachment, itself, brought more loathing against the impeachers than it did against Trump. Indeed, Trump became mor popular because of it.

Did they blow their wad doing this? Whether they did or not, they don't care if they have evidence against him or not. The point is to make him look bad in the eyes of the people. If they don't, he'll win in 2024, and their whole program will go down the tubes. They don't need any evidence whatever. All they need is blab against Trump.

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July 04, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
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....
Notice that while Trump was in office, they brought impeachment charges against him. ...

Cool

yes I did notice (twice actually), but thanx for reminding me

..... It all turned into nothing. .....
Cool

No it didn't

...... The impeachment, itself, brought more loathing against the impeachers than it did against Trump. ......
Cool

not from normal folks. just deluded Trump worshippers, such as yourself

..... Indeed, Trump became mor popular because of it.
....

Cool

see above

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Did they blow their wad doing this? .....
Cool

Um, no, not to my knowledge...

....... he'll win in 2024, .....
Cool

no, he won't

.....And you seem to want to blab your ignorance all over this section of the forum.

......
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Just quoting that gem coming from you, the forum genius, is good for a chuckle. Thanx bud...happy July 4th

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July 04, 2021, 03:51:47 PM
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Yes, that's right. Most presidents do illegal things in the dark, believe that they are above the law, and exercise their influence to avoid charges against them or the people who work in their name under the cover of darkness. Trump should be prosecuted for the many crimes and wrong decisions he made, not just tax evasion.
But what will the people gain from trying the president after the end of his presidential term? Is this a bad sign for democracy? Why is the president not being prosecuted for legal violations while he is still within his presidential term? Are these charges really legal or are they political? Meaning that the current ruling team is trying to track down the mistakes and violations of the previous team in order to obtain political gains in its favor?

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July 04, 2021, 05:27:27 PM
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     I am a huge believer of karma and the way I see it, whatever comes in Trump's way is only right for him. You reap what you sow as what they say. And even if not all the unlawful or immoral things he did gets discovered, there will still be a time that he will be paying for these actions one way or another. Even now, most people are not even taking him seriously and sees him as a laughingstock. I just hope though that if the law really chases Trump, it won't be the last and that it will also chase literally everyone who does wrong regardless of social status or occupation.

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July 06, 2021, 12:21:10 PM
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After a lifetime of observation I have gathered that normally the US doesn't prosecute its former presidents for anything after they leave office. First of all, its not nice; second of all, its not a good look for a country's government in general.

I'm wondering if Trump will be the exception to this rule as he did a lot of either blatantly illegal or at best highly questionable things as president...
Frankly, I was wondering when the ex-president, Donald Trump, was going to be called out by the court for some of his misdoings. The one that stuck out like a sore thumb was the post electoral riot where he urged his supporters to match to the Capitol to help reclaim his supposedly stolen mandate. It was horrible. I never saw a thing like that with the US. It was chaotic as there was an ongoing sitting by Congress at the time at the legislative chambers. Such isn't done in sane societies. We also remember that the election which brought Trump in as president was also said to have been fraught with irregularities the same way the one that saw him out. I hope he answers for it by the court. The US isn't Africa where elected officials assume they're superior to the electorate who got them into power and could behave how it pleases them.

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July 08, 2021, 06:10:38 AM
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Everybody does illegal things, without even realizing it. It isn't the illegality. It's the fear that Trump might win in 2024. Get him permanently out of the way. Start now.

Absolutely no Democrats think Donald Trump has a chance to win in 2024, and 90% do not believe he will even run.

He is washed up.

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July 10, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
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It's not a new thing for most persons in government offices or positions of power to commit crimes or take decisions that are degenerative and be cloated by there office. Of course I know the burden  of being a leader is hard as, you've got a lot of rationalising to do and scale your choices before you make them which still, its unlikely to be imperfect as you can't get all the elements evaluated.

Well, taxe evasion is a crime never the less and there is every possibility that the Trump foundation would be guilty of these accusation if properly looked into. A the foundation would be looking out to utilising any opportunity they can find to ensure they save cost, using the office of the formal president as a cloak to shield them from these bills.

So, it would come as a no surprise but then, its not directly dumped on Trump either ways. It falls directly on the management but still, its an attack on the pioneer founder.

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July 11, 2021, 04:29:22 AM
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If donald trump loses he could face major legal complications allegations of tax evasion against his organization were already under investigation. Outside of this cases of sexual harassment of two wome, including pornstar stomi daniel, may be revived due to the presence of the president the activities of these investigations and cases were stalled. Businesses have filed lawsuits against the trump organization for tax evasion and fraud. .
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