The slave does not dream of freedom, but of being the slave-master

[jaberwock]

This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.

Fascinating quote and it made me think twice as well.

Most of the employees have that tendency too, I mean if you do an anonymous survey where all the employees are asked what they think about their boss, I am sure the majority of them will say "We want to displace the boss, as soon as we can" and that shows everyone thrives for power. Although there are only a few who understand that with power comes responsibility and not everyone is capable of handling things as responsibly.

This mentality might be more severe in individuals who are for some reason and at some point of their life were forced to do certain things. A kid always beaten by his father will always want to become someone who wants to dominate others because his childhood went under pressure and now he wants to dominate others weaker than him.

I think the sentence/saying is quite true and these types of quotes make me think for a few days, even when I have tons of work to do.

[tygeade]

We use cryptocurrency means, we have full control for our crypto and we will decide when we should sell or buy or hold or whatever we want. We become our own masters because we can manage it for our life. But unfortunately, right now, we can not do that because that will depend on the government regulations and they will not easily accept crypto because they can not fully control the crypto. But we have the power to control our crypto and as long as we can send our crypto to other people, we still are our own masters.

I think you misunderstood the question or maybe I misunderstood. I think the point made in OP was that, we see so many cryptocurrencies right now because people want to feel like the owner of the coin than the user of it. There are so many coins and nearly all of them serve the same purpose so why do we have them? I think one reason might be as discussed in OP that people want more power but the other basic reason is that people want more money and it's not possible to make the biggest amounts with other coins so everyone creates their own coin.

People love bitcoin for the same reason, they feel like the rightful owner when they have a decentralized currency. The same feeling cannot be achieved from a centralized dollar or any fiat for that matter.

[uneng]

It's similar to those who promised to destroy the system, but ended part of it.

That is what always happens to most humans, because they are easily corrupted by power and all the ephemeral benefits it proportionates. At first moment, when they are slaves they say it's not going to happen to them, because they have never been in a better position, however once they reach to a better status everything changes, because they finally taste the sweet honey for the first time and never want to stop anymore. It's most easily spotted on the political world. You see how people start their careers on this field and after some years they completely change their personalities and values without any shame.

But I believe there are a minor part of the population who aren't like this because they are loyal to the principles in their heart and have a very strong will. Unfortunatelly these people are put away from the mainstream societies and groups.

[lienfaye]

This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.

Its a kind of thought provoking question that can make you think deeply and ask yourself on why are you walking on that path of your life, what you really want to achieve to satisfy yourself and be contented. For me i'm doing my best to change what I used to (as someone who came from poor family), thus im striving hard to improve the way we live our lives. We all once experience to have nothing, hence it would be better to stay humble and give back by sharing your experience on how you achieve your goal and not someone who think highly of themselves just because they are fortunate than us.

[Maxine4466]

It reminds me of two situations
one, for cryptoworld, some people grew tired of following the herd then lose money, so they rose to be the manipulator and launch their own shitcoin, stealing others' wealth and ran away. that's a process of transforming from a slave to slave-master (though that metaphor is not very accurate in that buying others' coins are not actually being a salve, please forgive me, but I really feel like I'm a slave of these manipulators)
second, for family. my father is rather short-tempered and he yells at me occasionally. Sometimes he fights with my mom and I hate him for that. Now I have a relationship and found similar character in me! I tend to lose my temper and shout at my boyfriend when our opinions diverge and from time to time, I hit him slightly to vent my dissatisfaction. I know that's wrong but I just cannot help it when anger comes to me. So to some extent, I go from the victim of my father to the perpetrator of my boyfriend.
the conclusion is, people are vulnerable to the effect from someone they hate

[John Jefferson]

No one wants to be a slave, but the way most people get rid of slavery is to become a slave owner. You say you want freedom, but when you really break free, you hold more people's unfreedom in your hands, but I think in the field of cryptocurrency, you can get rid of the slavery of others, and you can enjoy your own wealth. No one can control you. It is open source, transparent and open. The emergence of cryptocurrency allows us to realize the freedom of wealth and gain autonomy, so that we will not become enslaved people.

[Jontokhan65]

We all know what the word slave means. If someone works in someone's order, I call it a slave. Like if we work for a company, we are caught as slaves to that company. There are many people who try to own a slave. Those who have ideas will be able to own slaves. It is thought of less people in the society.

[kaseygriffin]

I honestly don't want to be a slave to life. You can understand it the way you think, everyone will have different opinions and arguments, but personally I find being in charge of myself contented with the life I have and trying to make things good. Such a life for me is meaningful, and there is no need to try to chase goals beyond my ability.

[michellee]

We use cryptocurrency means, we have full control for our crypto and we will decide when we should sell or buy or hold or whatever we want. We become our own masters because we can manage it for our life. But unfortunately, right now, we can not do that because that will depend on the government regulations and they will not easily accept crypto because they can not fully control the crypto. But we have the power to control our crypto and as long as we can send our crypto to other people, we still are our own masters.

I think you misunderstood the question or maybe I misunderstood. I think the point made in OP was that, we see so many cryptocurrencies right now because people want to feel like the owner of the coin than the user of it. There are so many coins and nearly all of them serve the same purpose so why do we have them? I think one reason might be as discussed in OP that people want more power but the other basic reason is that people want more money and it's not possible to make the biggest amounts with other coins so everyone creates their own coin.

People love bitcoin for the same reason, they feel like the rightful owner when they have a decentralized currency. The same feeling cannot be achieved from a centralized dollar or any fiat for that matter.

Let's say I am misunderstood at this point. If that is so, maybe people want to have more money, and by having so many coins on the crypto, especially potential coins, they will have a chance to achieve their goals. Once they can achieve, they will feel become a master for their life.

We created our cryptocurrency to become a master for our currency because if we can use our crypto, we are not dependent on the other third party such as the government, which always wants to control many things. But unfortunately, the government still involved in this matter, so the crypto needs them to approve crypto.

We still become slaves because we can not use crypto to buy a product, service, or others without approval from the government.

By the way, after doing a little research, I got a few pages about that quote:

https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,2261692,2261741

The quote is:

As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy.

- Abraham Lincoln (Collected Works)

But there are more quotes from the other members. You can read it one by one.

https://www.quora.com/Who-saidSlaves-dream-not-of-freedom-but-of-becoming-masters-The-quote-was-used-in-a-recent-episode-of-The-Bridge-the-Hulu-mystery-series-set-on-the-US-Mexico-border-Possibly-Thomas-Pynchon-from-Mason-and-Dixon

While in Quora:

Who said"Slaves dream not of freedom, but of becoming masters." The quote was used in a recent episode of "The Bridge," the Hulu mystery series set on the US-Mexico border. Possibly Thomas Pynchon from Mason and Dixon?

[Caldear]

Slaves all have a dream to become slave owners, rather than overthrow slavery. In the crypto market, one can gain freedom and become a slave owner. Everything in the crypto market is relatively free. You can get rid of the power and control of our finances by the banker. When people have funds that are not controlled by the government and no one can take it away, people will find freedom, so as to take control of own life.

[palle11]

Am I striving to become the master of slaves? 

No you are not because you are rather fighting for the freedom of all. Slavery is what fiat is doing but cryptocurrency is giving total control of your money to and you can decide to spend it the way you like without a third party or the bank to know your balance or how much you spent.

Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms?

Those who have climbed on the the ladder who are crypto enthusiasts are not of those terms, they understand what being free is.

Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves?

We are in this together trying to liberate ourselves to better educate those who don't know what is happening. They are many people out there that doesn't know what cryptocurrency or bitcoin is , so we are gaining this experience to better educate our people more.

[LogitechMouse]

This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.

A very popular scenario in every country especially here in our country where most people are waking up early just to go to a company where they are working for 8 hours just to be paid minimum. Sometimes their wages aren't enough for the whole family which is quite unfortunate.

People are working under their managers just to have money to be used in their daily lives. People are working under their master and hoping that they will climb up and will be the master of the incoming slaves in the future. The cycle keeps going on and on and on and on. People doesn't want to be a slave but in order for them to live, they have no choice but to work under their master just to have money to be used. What's worse is I've seen people working for a decade already and even more and yet they aren't being promoted and still being paid minimum wage. Their wage isn't changing but the prices of necessities are changing yearly.

As for me, I've work under a government for under a year only. I have this mentality that I don't want to be a slave to others. I don't want to be a master of others too that is why I find a job to earn money in other way. I've found some jobs which is I love to do and I found other sources of income. Now I don't need to wake up and work for 8 hours straight. I can wake up anytime I want too.

[DrBeer]

The original phrase sounds like this: "A slave dreams not of his freedom, but of his slaves." Author: Mark Tullius Cicero.
The meaning of the phrase about understanding freedom, and the fact that slave ideology does not even imply the achievement of freedom or the struggle for it, but only a primitive desire to take the place of the employer in order to realize their complexes, resentment and anger.

That's the sad thing about this quote, we don't dream of being at the least free from anything but what we want is to be another generation of so called slave owners. I guess the emotions that you mentioned, if they were to be removed from human behavior, we might be able to achieve freedom or somewhat freedom because I think that we aren't truly free.

A little bit wrong ... I will try to give the essence of this phrase in a broader way, using a real example.
A classic individual with a slavish concept in his head will never look for ways to CHANGE the environment and the system. The maximum that he will be strong is to replace the one who beats him with a stick today, like a disobedient pet ... But there are countries, peoples, societies where such restrictions are unacceptable! People want to live AS PEOPLE and not on orders from the "owner", as it was in the USSR. This is where the slaves were and the slave ideology that still manifests itself today! People born and raised by the infernal USSR still preach the slavish concept hammered into their heads - no need to live well and richly, do not think - the party will think for you, do not wish - the party will say what you need, do not discuss and do not condemn - party leaders and the party is always right, the enemy is the one to whom the leaders of the party and the party will point out, friends - also wait for instructions. And never think or defend your point of view. this is a crime against the leaders of the party and the party as a whole!

[Kakmakr]

Bitcoin can never create a new Master of the Slaves, because no Master can control a decentralized network. We can become the Masters of our own destiny, because our wealth are not controlled by any Masters, if we use Bitcoin correctly.

People will only see that they are slaves of something, if they know what their Master was and Bitcoin is making that clear to them by offering them the alternative to what they were used to. (They were used to a centralized currency that are being manipulated by governments)

Take the "red" Pill Neo.... and go down the Rabbit hole. 

[AicecreaME]

This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.

It really depends on someone's perspective in life. Being a 'slave' is often used figuratively speaking describing the status, rank, or work nature of a person in a society. During this modern times, being a slave is usually comparable to being a laborer that is underpaid by his employer. And typically, these people don't really desire to be the new master of the new slaves because they have experienced what is it like to be the lowest of low and do the hardest of hard to even dream of passing the burden and hardship they have felt to other people.

IMO, the so-called slaves are usually contented and the thing that they want is to earn enough to sustain their necessities in life; not to pass the difficulties. They aspire to have a comfortable life like any other, but does not really dream high to the point they would like to be in the position of the higher ups that manage workers. These people are okay with what they have as long as it brings food onto their table and making the ends meet at the very least. The usual people who have always dreamt to be on top and become a master of the slaves were often the rich and wealthy ones.

Maybe there are some 'slaves' that want to climb to the top. But I think their usual goal is to become a 'leader' and not just a 'master'. A leader that can be depended and look upon and is inspirational to achieve oneself's goal.

[Johnyz]

I honestly don't want to be a slave to life. You can understand it the way you think, everyone will have different opinions and arguments, but personally I find being in charge of myself contented with the life I have and trying to make things good. Such a life for me is meaningful, and there is no need to try to chase goals beyond my ability.

We have to trust ourselves and never give up because the time will come and all your hard work will be worth it. Don't be a slave of money, just enjoy life, enjoy the volatility of this market while you are working to achieve your dreams, and of course treat people well because we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, so be generous and don't judge people easily. We are working for our personal goals, time may come that we may employ people but hopefully you don't see them as your slave, always remember where you came from.

[perryxi2]

In my opinion, in the past, the word slavery was due to the time when kings had the power to exploit people without property to seek food, they used power and violence to exploit, most of the people without property were usually safe fate and have no distant dreams for themselves.

[Yatsan]

People are seeking for betterment maybe because they truly wanted to lift up their lives from being a slave to becoming a master of their own and to maintain such position to be able not to experience the same slavery they have become before and went through those challenges they have surpassed. The change from being a slave to become a master of slave or just barely a master depends on the person if he will intend to do so becoming on of those because ever since old ages, the strongest remains on the top like survival of the fittest that those capable can stand out among the other people. Such mentality or philosophy still applies in the modern age meaning, to be able to survive you must improve yourself to become better if you came from worst and further grow up to become the best.

[GeorgeJohn]

This is a sentence I recently heard on a TV series I was watching that made me think of my own stance in life. Am I striving to become the master of slaves?  Perhaps those who climb the corporate ladder think in those terms? Are we creating our own cryptocurrency just to be our own masters or are we actually seeking to become the new masters of the new slaves? BTW I am very interested in knowing if this is a quote from anyone famous or just part of the script.

Everyone wants to attain greater heights despite been under the shadows of people, brothers, friends, bosses,so as not to go through whatever they are on at the time, despite challenges from different angles a lot elove, struggle, fight,and find there way to the top,only those with the best mentality.For example lets take a look at Lionel Messi and Neymar Jr, despite doing well under the shadows of Messi,he wanted to be the king of he's and then moved to Psg.

[tygeade]

Let's say I am misunderstood at this point. If that is so, maybe people want to have more money, and by having so many coins on the crypto, especially potential coins, they will have a chance to achieve their goals. Once they can achieve, they will feel become a master for their life.

We created our cryptocurrency to become a master for our currency because if we can use our crypto, we are not dependent on the other third party such as the government, which always wants to control many things. But unfortunately, the government still involved in this matter, so the crypto needs them to approve crypto.

We still become slaves because we can not use crypto to buy a product, service, or others without approval from the government.

Unfortunately there are both truth to yours and mine as well. I understand that if you want to find your freedom in crypto you can find it, if you want financial freedom you can find it, if you want political freedom (to keep your finances away from politicians and governments) you can find it, those are all the great parts about crypto and you can do all of those things without a problem and that is what I like about crypto.

However what I am right about and what this topic is probably about that there are people who create tokens that basically just ignores all the investors and only care about having a lot of a token that they created and others should increase the price of, they create it for free to themselves and then promote it so that the price goes 100x and they could become super wealthy and all thanks to other people who are trying to get that freedom from crypto.

So, in return we can call them "slave masters" in a way that they are trying to find their freedom over others crushed dream of freedom.