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April 09, 2022, 12:57:23 AM
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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

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April 09, 2022, 10:26:46 AM
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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.
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April 09, 2022, 12:42:07 PM
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Well, what I'm saying is about the interest could really be change even if he has already said his interest of beating Inoue last year. But a lot has been changed because both of them got to have their own match.

With the order of the WBO, he needed to match with Butler first and that has delayed their face up but that's totally fine. We will see if that tag line really suits him.

Up until now, we are waiting for the next fight of Casimero and the results.
So til then, we don't know what will be his next plans.
For now, we are sure that Inoue vs Donaire re-match will happen, and let us see how will this pan out.
I don't think Inoue will not give a good fight on this upcoming one because that will tell him what's next for him.
Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.

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April 09, 2022, 12:43:38 PM
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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.

Inoue does both, score on points and if he finds an opportunity to knock out his opponent he will do it. If we look at his record, most of his wins are coming from KO, so this guy really has the power and he would want to have an impressive win everytime he fights.




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April 09, 2022, 12:53:20 PM
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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.

Inoue does both, score on points and if he finds an opportunity to knock out his opponent he will do it. If we look at his record, most of his wins are coming from KO, so this guy really has the power and he would want to have an impressive win everytime he fights.
^ I just wanted to know what kind of power? Lol just kidding aside.
This man is really amazing, he had fighting skills as an aggressive fighter and that is right when there is an opportunity to knock his opponent down, he will never stop until it will becomes KO result in favor of him. I like the fighting style of Inoue, it seems they have the same technique that had used by Manny Pacquiao, it will give a rapid punch when they smell the weakness of the opponent. Nevertheless, I cannot wait for their match.
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April 09, 2022, 01:24:27 PM
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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.

Inoue does both, score on points and if he finds an opportunity to knock out his opponent he will do it. If we look at his record, most of his wins are coming from KO, so this guy really has the power and he would want to have an impressive win everytime he fights.
^ I just wanted to know what kind of power? Lol just kidding aside.
This man is really amazing, he had fighting skills as an aggressive fighter and that is right when there is an opportunity to knock his opponent down, he will never stop until it will becomes KO result in favor of him. I like the fighting style of Inoue, it seems they have the same technique that had used by Manny Pacquiao, it will give a rapid punch when they smell the weakness of the opponent. Nevertheless, I cannot wait for their match.


We are all excited to have this match at least it's already confirmed, we will now follow the development of their training and their conference as they build up the fight, both fighters have mutual respect for each other, not like Casimero who showed disrespect on both fighters, they may have respect with each other but it's different when inside the ring, I will be all out for Donaire I believe this time he can pull an upset.

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April 09, 2022, 01:37:22 PM
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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already.

I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it.

We need to see that in the rematch. Donaire will be more desperate because he is the underdog, so he will continue to play his style and if Inoue would remain aggressive, that's what Donaire would want to see as he cannot win against the quickness of Inoue.

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April 09, 2022, 03:25:46 PM
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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already.

I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it.

I couldn't agree more! Inoue already have that experience with Donarie and so does the latter, what they have started will be continued in this fight and they will go for that toe-to-toe call until one of them gives up. It's just that there will be some changes of their approach as they've already learned from their first encounter but that doesn't change the fact the one of them will chase through or ignoring so good toe-toe-toe call. In the same manner, I'm with Inoue here because unlike Donaire who cannot take all the punch, Inoue can.

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April 09, 2022, 03:38:24 PM
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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already.

I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it.

We need to see that in the rematch. Donaire will be more desperate because he is the underdog, so he will continue to play his style and if Inoue would remain aggressive, that's what Donaire would want to see as he cannot win against the quickness of Inoue.

I'm also looking forward to seeing that in the rematch. I'm expecting there won't be pure defense or like the Rigo system lol where boxing turned into a marathon. As boxing fans know, both Inoue and Donaire, are good in defense but still, they prefer to have a continuous exchange of offensive punches,

With that type of exchange bout, we can't expect this fight will end up in a Decision.

It will be a bloodied KO win, and the strong one will win at the end.
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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already.

I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it.

We need to see that in the rematch. Donaire will be more desperate because he is the underdog, so he will continue to play his style and if Inoue would remain aggressive, that's what Donaire would want to see as he cannot win against the quickness of Inoue.

I'm also looking forward to seeing that in the rematch. I'm expecting there won't be pure defense or like the Rigo system lol where boxing turned into a marathon. As boxing fans know, both Inoue and Donaire, are good in defense but still, they prefer to have a continuous exchange of offensive punches,

With that type of exchange bout, we can't expect this fight will end up in a Decision.

It will be a bloodied KO win, and the strong one will win at the end.

Whenever Inoue fights, fans will always expect a knockout just as what we expect from Donaire as well. Somehow we are used to seeing opponents fall on the floor because both keep entertaining us that way.

For me though, Whether Donaire wins or loses, he should retire already because at age 40 it's a bit different already. I'm interested to see if Naoya overcomes it if he loses 1 fight and gets back his will to fight again like Donaire.

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Well, what I'm saying is about the interest could really be change even if he has already said his interest of beating Inoue last year. But a lot has been changed because both of them got to have their own match.

With the order of the WBO, he needed to match with Butler first and that has delayed their face up but that's totally fine. We will see if that tag line really suits him.

Up until now, we are waiting for the next fight of Casimero and the results.
So til then, we don't know what will be his next plans.
For now, we are sure that Inoue vs Donaire re-match will happen, and let us see how will this pan out.
I don't think Inoue will not give a good fight on this upcoming one because that will tell him what's next for him.
Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.

As for Casimero vs Butler, I will already that fight into Casimero's favor but what I wanted to see is how would Casimero end Paul Butler. is it via KO or decision? I hope it's the first one because this fight will be a toe-toe-toe match and not a "come and chase me until the bell rang" just like what Rigo did against Casimero. That fight surely doesn't entertain me.

After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

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After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

That depends on the result of this fight, if Donaire wins, they might as well go with the Trilogy as this would sell better than a fight with Casimero. However, if Inoue wins, then there's no need to wait longer for Casimero provided that he would successfully defend his title in his upcoming fight against Butler.

Both (Donaire vs Inoue III) or (Inoue vs Casimero) are interesting fights to watch.
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After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

That depends on the result of this fight, if Donaire wins, they might as well go with the Trilogy as this would sell better than a fight with Casimero. However, if Inoue wins, then there's no need to wait longer for Casimero provided that he would successfully defend his title in his upcoming fight against Butler.

Both (Donaire vs Inoue III) or (Inoue vs Casimero) are interesting fights to watch.

Don't forget that Casimero needs to past Butler first. If Casimero loses here, there's no way the winner of Inoue vs Donaire II will fight him as no title is at stake.

Casimero will literally have to start as a challenger again. At that time, Inoue (if won against Donaire) already moved up a weight class or possibly a fight with Paul Butler (in case he won against Casimero) to unify the bantamweight titles.

But before speculating, it's just a matter of a few days waiting for the Casimero fight. After that, all eyes were on this matchup between Donaire and Inoue.

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April 09, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.
Its official and it would be on June 7 not on July.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-nonito-donaire-ii-official-for-june-7/216828
and here's some vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Woc8XN7FM

This would really be indeed a good rematch and for Donaire then this should be an opportunity to have some revenge for his lost against Inoue.

this will be a counter fight after he previously lost and there is definitely a new motivation and enthusiasm to make this fight exciting now.
The previous fight in 2019 I was very impressed with the performance of the two because they fought completely and gave all their strength.
now it might be more exciting regardless of the revenge fight or whatever i will definitely enjoy their fight in june

You will surely enjoy the fight because both fighters are not boring to watch, and they are clean fighters as well. I'm sure you enjoyed the first fight, so for sure we will see a better fight in a rematch as Donaire will certainly make an adjustment and study how to beat the undefeated beast.

Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.
True, this will definitely be very exciting to watch, reflecting on the previous fight they had to play 12 rounds there and every round there was always something interesting to see. now in terms of age and experience of course they have changed now. It is certain that with increasing experience, the techniques displayed and the battles that are served will be exciting again. their tension is very hot.
For the Trilogy I don't feel that way and for KO I still can't predict it anyway because both boxers have their advantages and disadvantages.

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True, this will definitely be very exciting to watch, reflecting on the previous fight they had to play 12 rounds there and every round there was always something interesting to see.
The early rounds belonged to Donaire, but when Inoue made an adjustment, most of the rounds was in his favor, that's why he won via unanimous decision.

now in terms of age and experience of course they have changed now. It is certain that with increasing experience, the techniques displayed and the battles that are served will be exciting again. their tension is very hot.
For the Trilogy I don't feel that way and for KO I still can't predict it anyway because both boxers have their advantages and disadvantages.
Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.
When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.
I think this as well, there are fights which are incredible technical and you can appreciate the art of boxing at its full expression as the fighters can do it all and evade, block, counter-punch, take a punch and attack at a high level, but to me despite both Inoue and Donaire being very good I really expect that this will turn into a street fight in which neither boxer will avoid the other and they will throw punches until one of them falls.

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.
When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

Inoue will not be so aggressive in this rematch because he already felt the power of Donaire and could really hurt him, the worst could knock him down if he goes toe to toe. Counter punch is the biggest technique of Donaire, he worked that strategy perfectly for years, so it's not new to him and Inoue has to be careful if he wants to remain undefeated before he will move up in weight.

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April 10, 2022, 10:07:04 PM
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Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.
After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.
That's very likely.

These three in the triangle will be the individuals that are likely to have a match with Casimero so whoever is going to be their next interest for their match then it will happen.

But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

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