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April 08, 2022, 11:36:58 AM
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^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.
For Donaire to be able to win the fight, he must have a good look to counter Inoue and KO him, otherwise, he will just again lose in points because Inoue is more mobile and he throws more punches than Donaire. It's not an easy fight for Donaire but his win in the past fight should give him enough confidence to beat the beast.

The last time these two fought, Donaire converts good numbers of solid punches, but Inoue ignores and overpowers him. It's convincing that Inoue is really powerful but if Donaire will again converts those solid punches, the chance is high since he just win his last fight with a good decent strategy and combinations, if he will enhance that style he may upset and make his revenge to Inoue.

We can't tell if how this fight will end. The chance for both fighters is equal. They are both champ and have that KO punches.

Inoue was smart, he knows that he if will go bell to bell against Donaire, he might get caught by a solid counter that he cannot take anymore. Instead, he use his quickness, score and let Donaire throw more punches to make him tired, and then he use his body punch technique which wear down Donaire.

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April 08, 2022, 12:47:02 PM
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^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.
For Donaire to be able to win the fight, he must have a good look to counter Inoue and KO him, otherwise, he will just again lose in points because Inoue is more mobile and he throws more punches than Donaire. It's not an easy fight for Donaire but his win in the past fight should give him enough confidence to beat the beast.

The last time these two fought, Donaire converts good numbers of solid punches, but Inoue ignores and overpowers him. It's convincing that Inoue is really powerful but if Donaire will again converts those solid punches, the chance is high since he just win his last fight with a good decent strategy and combinations, if he will enhance that style he may upset and make his revenge to Inoue.

We can't tell if how this fight will end. The chance for both fighters is equal. They are both champ and have that KO punches.

Inoue was smart, he knows that he if will go bell to bell against Donaire, he might get caught by a solid counter that he cannot take anymore. Instead, he use his quickness, score and let Donaire throw more punches to make him tired, and then he use his body punch technique which wear down Donaire.
Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

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April 08, 2022, 02:47:00 PM
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^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.

I don't have a doubt that Donaire is still the strong fighter that we have known since then even if this man is in aged now, what I mean is if we were going to refer to his recent fight against Gaballo we can say that Donaire has still the power in both hands and that will still be shown to his upcoming fight against Inoue for sure. However, this match is a rematch for the two great fighters and this time we can't tell if Inoue will still dominate the fight or it will be a chance for Donaire to win the game.
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April 08, 2022, 02:52:24 PM
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^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.

I don't have a doubt that Donaire is still the strong fighter that we have known since then even if this man is in aged now, what I mean is if we were going to refer to his recent fight against Gaballo we can say that Donaire has still the power in both hands and that will still be shown to his upcoming fight against Inoue for sure. However, this match is a rematch for the two great fighters and this time we can't tell if Inoue will still dominate the fight or it will be a chance for Donaire to win the game.

Aged is really a big factor but I doubt it will defer with Donaire since he is not old enough and can able to box, maybe those people down playing him don't really know much how Donaire fight and their last match is pretty much amazing so no doubt that he can able to defeat Inoue in their fight. We cannot really tell that Inoue can still dominate this since Donaire is a smart fighter and for sure he learn a huge lesson from their last match.

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April 08, 2022, 04:07:38 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.


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April 08, 2022, 05:43:22 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.
Its official and it would be on June 7 not on July.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-nonito-donaire-ii-official-for-june-7/216828
and here's some vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Woc8XN7FM

This would really be indeed a good rematch and for Donaire then this should be an opportunity to have some revenge for his lost against Inoue.

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April 08, 2022, 06:16:14 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.
Its official and it would be on June 7 not on July.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-nonito-donaire-ii-official-for-june-7/216828
and here's some vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Woc8XN7FM

This would really be indeed a good rematch and for Donaire then this should be an opportunity to have some revenge for his lost against Inoue.

this will be a counter fight after he previously lost and there is definitely a new motivation and enthusiasm to make this fight exciting now.
The previous fight in 2019 I was very impressed with the performance of the two because they fought completely and gave all their strength.
now it might be more exciting regardless of the revenge fight or whatever i will definitely enjoy their fight in june

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April 08, 2022, 08:37:50 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.
Its official and it would be on June 7 not on July.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-nonito-donaire-ii-official-for-june-7/216828
and here's some vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Woc8XN7FM

This would really be indeed a good rematch and for Donaire then this should be an opportunity to have some revenge for his lost against Inoue.

this will be a counter fight after he previously lost and there is definitely a new motivation and enthusiasm to make this fight exciting now.
The previous fight in 2019 I was very impressed with the performance of the two because they fought completely and gave all their strength.
now it might be more exciting regardless of the revenge fight or whatever i will definitely enjoy their fight in june

You will surely enjoy the fight because both fighters are not boring to watch, and they are clean fighters as well. I'm sure you enjoyed the first fight, so for sure we will see a better fight in a rematch as Donaire will certainly make an adjustment and study how to beat the undefeated beast.

Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.

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April 08, 2022, 08:57:18 PM
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Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.

It depends on the agreement, but if there's no rematch clause, Donaire could pursue the winner of Butler vs Casimero fight and try to be a unified champion, then afterward he will retire because that is what he wants to achieve.

Donaire will retire as a champion, that' a great legacy IMO.

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April 08, 2022, 09:22:24 PM
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Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.

It depends on the agreement, but if there's no rematch clause, Donaire could pursue the winner of Butler vs Casimero fight and try to be a unified champion, then afterward he will retire because that is what he wants to achieve.

Donaire will retire as a champion, that's a great legacy IMO.

He should do that, unlike Pacman who pushed his limit when he could have retired after Thurman's fight. Maybe we can understand Pacman's decision because he needs funds for his campaign on running as the president. Back to Donaire, this guy remains humble, so is Inoue, so both really have respected each other and they are willing to risk their belt just to entertain the fans.

Where's Casimero now? In this fight, Casimero seems to be left behind already.
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April 08, 2022, 09:34:45 PM
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You will surely enjoy the fight because both fighters are not boring to watch, and they are clean fighters as well. I'm sure you enjoyed the first fight, so for sure we will see a better fight in a rematch as Donaire will certainly make an adjustment and study how to beat the undefeated beast.

Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.
Everyone is going to enjoy this match for sure. It could even be the last match of Donaire if ever he wins.

It depends on the agreement, but if there's no rematch clause, Donaire could pursue the winner of Butler vs Casimero fight and try to be a unified champion, then afterward he will retire because that is what he wants to achieve.

Donaire will retire as a champion, that' a great legacy IMO.
It's true and I agree. He wants to retire as a champion and he's just waiting for this match. Well, I guess on his mind is like, he's going to win this match no matter what happens.

Let's say he wins on this match, I guess Casimero would choose to fight Donaire than Inoue despite of his statements last year that he's about to get a match against Inoue.

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April 08, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
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Let's say he wins on this match, I guess Casimero would choose to fight Donaire than Inoue despite of his statements last year that he's about to get a match against Inoue.

Of course, Casimero would go after a fighter that holds the belt, and if he wins the fight, he could be the undisputed champion, and then he can move in weight leaving Inoue beltless. Smiley

Actually, this is easier said than done because we all know how good Inoue is, he was even described as the next Manny Pacquioa.



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April 08, 2022, 10:06:51 PM
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As per the main topic is there any official announcement as of now that there will be a Inoue vs Donaire II match? or was it is already official I am pretty late with this topic but looking at google it seems that it is an official match which will be held this July 2022? Both fighters shows some good skill last 2019 I think this could be a good rematch.
Its official and it would be on June 7 not on July.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/naoya-inoue-nonito-donaire-ii-official-for-june-7/216828
and here's some vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Woc8XN7FM

This would really be indeed a good rematch and for Donaire then this should be an opportunity to have some revenge for his lost against Inoue.

this will be a counter fight after he previously lost and there is definitely a new motivation and enthusiasm to make this fight exciting now.
The previous fight in 2019 I was very impressed with the performance of the two because they fought completely and gave all their strength.
now it might be more exciting regardless of the revenge fight or whatever i will definitely enjoy their fight in june

You will surely enjoy the fight because both fighters are not boring to watch, and they are clean fighters as well. I'm sure you enjoyed the first fight, so for sure we will see a better fight in a rematch as Donaire will certainly make an adjustment and study how to beat the undefeated beast.

Not sure if there's a Trilogy, but I hope that will happen and Donaire would make his revenge by a KO win.
This is way more better rather than with those hyped exhibition fights upcoming and you are right that lots would really be enjoying this rematch considering that we've seen on how this two made out some clash wayback.

Honestly i wasnt expecting for them to have a rematch considering that all hype and interest goes to Casimero but since he had still some fight to be settled then it turns out that this had been the current set-up.

I do still see that Donaire would be having the chance if he would able to pull off some solid counter punch out of Inoues solid punches too.It all takes a clean hit.

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April 08, 2022, 10:35:45 PM
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Let's say he wins on this match, I guess Casimero would choose to fight Donaire than Inoue despite of his statements last year that he's about to get a match against Inoue.

Of course, Casimero would go after a fighter that holds the belt, and if he wins the fight, he could be the undisputed champion, and then he can move in weight leaving Inoue beltless. Smiley

Actually, this is easier said than done because we all know how good Inoue is, he was even described as the next Manny Pacquioa.
Well, what I'm saying is about the interest could really be change even if he has already said his interest of beating Inoue last year. But a lot has been changed because both of them got to have their own match.

With the order of the WBO, he needed to match with Butler first and that has delayed their face up but that's totally fine. We will see if that tag line really suits him.

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April 08, 2022, 10:42:54 PM
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Let's say he wins on this match, I guess Casimero would choose to fight Donaire than Inoue despite of his statements last year that he's about to get a match against Inoue.

Of course, Casimero would go after a fighter that holds the belt, and if he wins the fight, he could be the undisputed champion, and then he can move in weight leaving Inoue beltless. Smiley

Actually, this is easier said than done because we all know how good Inoue is, he was even described as the next Manny Pacquioa.
Well, what I'm saying is about the interest could really be change even if he has already said his interest of beating Inoue last year. But a lot has been changed because both of them got to have their own match.

With the order of the WBO, he needed to match with Butler first and that has delayed their face up but that's totally fine. We will see if that tag line really suits him.

Up until now, we are waiting for the next fight of Casimero and the results.
So til then, we don't know what will be his next plans.
For now, we are sure that Inoue vs Donaire re-match will happen, and let us see how will this pan out.
I don't think Inoue will not give a good fight on this upcoming one because that will tell him what's next for him.
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April 08, 2022, 10:55:52 PM
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Let's say he wins on this match, I guess Casimero would choose to fight Donaire than Inoue despite of his statements last year that he's about to get a match against Inoue.

Of course, Casimero would go after a fighter that holds the belt, and if he wins the fight, he could be the undisputed champion, and then he can move in weight leaving Inoue beltless. Smiley

Actually, this is easier said than done because we all know how good Inoue is, he was even described as the next Manny Pacquioa.
Well, what I'm saying is about the interest could really be change even if he has already said his interest of beating Inoue last year. But a lot has been changed because both of them got to have their own match.

With the order of the WBO, he needed to match with Butler first and that has delayed their face up but that's totally fine. We will see if that tag line really suits him.

Up until now, we are waiting for the next fight of Casimero and the results.
So til then, we don't know what will be his next plans.
For now, we are sure that Inoue vs Donaire re-match will happen, and let us see how will this pan out.
I don't think Inoue will not give a good fight on this upcoming one because that will tell him what's next for him.

Looks like the camp of Inoue doesn't really have an interest with Casimero since if they really want to make this fight happen they negotiate this one before but looks like their match up will never happen. I don't know if Inoue's management stopping this to happen because they don't see anything beneficial to their fighter or maybe they just want to step up and doesn't want to get bother by him.

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April 08, 2022, 11:29:09 PM
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The last time these two fought, Donaire converts good numbers of solid punches, but Inoue ignores and overpowers him. It's convincing that Inoue is really powerful but if Donaire will again converts those solid punches, the chance is high since he just win his last fight with a good decent strategy and combinations, if he will enhance that style he may upset and make his revenge to Inoue.

Yes, that's why we need this rematch to finally sees who is the most powerful and dominant now.

Their first match is almost close to equal and both fighters received respective damages. We like to see those close fights again. The exchange of punches is simultaneous and no one runs to stay in defense. Can't believe Donaire at that age still can match the speed and quickness of a young and prime Inoue.

Inoue might be more powerful now but I'm looking forward to an upset by an old Donaire.
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April 08, 2022, 11:41:40 PM
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Inoue was smart, he knows that he if will go bell to bell against Donaire, he might get caught by a solid counter that he cannot take anymore. Instead, he use his quickness, score and let Donaire throw more punches to make him tired, and then he use his body punch technique which wear down Donaire.

I doubt he will do what you have mentioned. Inoue is not like that. If his opponent likes a face-to-face bout, he will gladly accept it. He will not be known to be a Monster if he is just waiting for his opponent to get tired and score some points. That's a disgrace to his status as a boxer and almost all Japanese boxers aren't like that. He is a champion and he defeats Donaire in a close fight.

I'm sure that scene in their first fight, where Inoue and Donaire are clashing with each other without playing defense, is what we will see again. Battle of pride thru who's the last man standing and not they will wait first for their opponent to be tired.
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April 08, 2022, 11:55:57 PM
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Looks like the camp of Inoue doesn't really have an interest with Casimero since if they really want to make this fight happen they negotiate this one before but looks like their match up will never happen. I don't know if Inoue's management stopping this to happen because they don't see anything beneficial to their fighter or maybe they just want to step up and doesn't want to get bother by him.

Inoue's camp is always welcome to any fights however it's on the Promoter as the last decision. No progress happened last year when Casimero and Inoue are exchanging talks that's why WBA stepped in and decided to assign Casimero to have a mandatory title defense with Paul Butler. And when that fight was canceled because of health issues by Casimero, Inoue now become not interested to fight him anymore as he was not 100% healthy.

Moving forward, the rematch of Inoue and Donaire is what I'm really looking forward to.

They have an unfinished business and this rematch will seal it all.

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Donaire also knows that too because like Inoue, he also had the first hand experience which was their first encounter. So he already know that it's not good for him if he goes toe-to-toe with Inoue as it can really weary him in the long run. It might be best to counter every punches and be versatile or quick enough to react every move Inoue will make.

As @Fredomago said, both of them is equal in this match and we cannot really tell which of them have the advantage.

I'm thinking they will go toe-to-toe, face-to-face, close-to-close, bout-to-bout, head-to-head, or whatever clashes we called it because that's what they love. There's still defense but if one signals that they need to clash closely, the other party will go with the challenge. It's a form of respect by each boxer and ignoring that call is unprofessional. Inoue is known for his offensive style and he will not change that way just because Donaire is a counterpuncher and he has experience fighting him already.

I don't really think Inoue will avoid Donaire in a close bout. As a champion, he will prove that he can beat Donaire in his comfort zone and that's what fans want to see. On the other hand, Donaire too will have the same thinking. If he was able to give Inoue heavy damage in that close fight before, he is comfortable he can repeat it.

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