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Forget about conspiracies, this is like a reset and it wasn't expected by most countries. If you're thinking that endless wars will come then you should go elsewhere just to be safe. But I'm not thinking like that because it's far from what we're expecting as most countries are doing what they can to ease the problem and at least recover from the economical effect made by the pandemic. I do agree in some of your points and those rich countries will become richer, especially the manufacturers of the vaccines.
Vaccine producing countries are the countries that benefit from the pandemic. when other countries are at war with the pandemic, of course there are also countries that benefit, and actually economic problems seem to have no effect and even make a country richer. Of course, this is viewed in terms of opportunity and ability to take advantage of the moment
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July 05, 2021, 04:47:14 AM |
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There's not a lot of big world events that might turn the doomsday clock to a full midnight so I don't think that this pandemic is going to be the start. You might be right but what the hell with the zombies, did you know that you can't reanimate the dead because at first their body will be too rigid to move plus they decay overtime if that's true. Lay off the conspiracy theories for awhile OP, try to get some fresh air.
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July 05, 2021, 06:46:15 AM |
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Forget about conspiracies, this is like a reset and it wasn't expected by most countries. If you're thinking that endless wars will come then you should go elsewhere just to be safe. But I'm not thinking like that because it's far from what we're expecting as most countries are doing what they can to ease the problem and at least recover from the economical effect made by the pandemic. I do agree in some of your points and those rich countries will become richer, especially the manufacturers of the vaccines.
Vaccine producing countries are the countries that benefit from the pandemic. when other countries are at war with the pandemic, of course there are also countries that benefit, and actually economic problems seem to have no effect and even make a country richer. Of course, this is viewed in terms of opportunity and ability to take advantage of the moment Yes, it is. If there is a war, their supply will be rare, and it will hard to found, and only a country that wants to pay expensive will get the vaccine. But I do not think that they will do that because they are bonded with the United Nations, which monitors the distribution of the vaccine to all countries that need it. Hopefully, the vaccine supply can fill every country's demands. If the other vaccine company can also contribute, there will be no war because of a scramble of the vaccine supply.
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I have seen and am I feeling very clearly the bad things from the epidemic, although I have not thought about things like the OP, it is clear that it can be the cause and effect of negative things in the future. I had to close my shop because I couldn't sustain it at a loss, and it also brought a lot of bad things into my life.
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What do you think?
I think that 5g chip from Microsoft, that got into your body from vaccine has started to work or damage your brain. Otherwise how do describe such stupidity as "becoming zombies" ?
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This is what happens when you are continuously reading or watching some conspira-shit theories in the internet. I'm not saying though that chaos might not happens or wars might not happen either but the Zombie part?? That is just a fictional character, became popular and put some stories on it in order to become more popular. The last pandemic happened was the H1N1 virus back in 2009. Did the war started? No. Is there chaos? I don't think so. The funny question is did zombies came?? I think you know the answer with that. Take this pandemic as a restart of the world because after all, pandemics do happen every decade or 2 or even more decades. Just don't ever read or watch conspira-shit theories ever again ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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I think that 5g chip from Microsoft, that got into your body from vaccine has started to work or damage your brain. Otherwise how do describe such stupidity as "becoming zombies" ?
I have no merits right now to support you, but this is absolutely true. I agree. What wars are we talking about? Do you think there will be a third world war? So there must be a winner. But the truth of life is that if countries have nuclear weapons, there will be no winners. There will be nothing. Absolutely. And yes, who said the pandemic was over? Have you heard about virus mutations? We will live with a pandemic and get used to other diseases.
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These scenarios seem a little exaggerated, but suppose that the poor countries fail to give the vaccination against the Corona virus to their citizens, then the disease will spread greatly, and in this case the rich countries will not wage war on the poor countries because of their fear of transmission to their soldiers and then from the soldiers returning home Once again, because vaccination against the disease does not guarantee that it will not be infected again, but it is possible that rich countries may resort to colonizing poor countries indirectly by exploiting their economic and medical needs and imposing on them the conditions they want in exchange for the aid they provide to these poor countries. I think this scenario is more likely because the old colonialism through wars has come to cost a lot of money and soldiers' lives while economic colonialism is much less expensive and more secure than the spread of the epidemic. But at the same time, this will lead to an increase in the wealth of the rich countries and the poverty of the poor countries, and this may lead in the future to the emergence of armed conflicts and wars that threaten world peace.
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Indeed, this pandemic has brought a lot of chaos all over the world. Many conflicts arose and still arise up until today. Most countries has faced problems in terms of containing the virus and lowering covid cases. Money problems has been also one of the major issues of almost everyone that some government decided to print more money to patch things up. Economy of almost every countries went rock bottom, but others immediately bounced back and the other are now recovering.
Zombies are based from science fiction and based on researches online, there's no reason to be worried about apocalypse like that of movies. Sure, this pandemic has indeed showed that it is possible to have zombie-like symptoms or behaviour. However, zombie apocalypse in real life is impossible to happen. Only that of clinically diagnosed with disease can exhibit zombie traits. Although I assume what you meant here was exhibiting zombie characteristics as well as the time span of spread of the virus is like that of zombies - very contagious the moment one person contacted the virus, another people would be susceptible to it.
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Your post makes me laugh.
But i can guarantee you that a tough leader from Babylon will conquer both the rich and poor countries, but he will fail to conquer the Church which will exist as Nation during the choatic period. It may surprise you who lead the Church then.... People will see all kinds superior display of Powers on Earth then.
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Third, equality will no longer be applied to people living in poor countries and will be consider as slaves due to debt. Examinations of garbage dumps from ancient rome revealed human corpses were routinely discarded and mixed in with trash. There are eras of history where human life is not highly valued and slavery becomes normalized. Israelites in the bible were slaves under Egypt. Spartacus was a gladiator slave in rome. Africans were slaves in most of the world, only around a century ago. If people wish to prevent things like slavery, their best defense involves learning about it and becoming educated. Know history to prevent it from repeating itself. Fifth, endless wars will going to take place and peace and freedom will be taken out from humanity. Wars are dangerous to the rich as well as the poor. Like forest fires, they can blaze up and burn out of control. Consuming everyone and everything in their path. World War II, Vietnam and Korean Wars were the last real wars the united states participated in. What is called war today in the USA isn't real war. But carefully planned and executed skirmishes which can be controlled to suit a narrative. The same can be said of military industrial complex programs and projects. Everyone hesitates over and fears real war as it cannot be predicted or controlled.
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July 06, 2021, 07:54:44 PM |
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An ex spy was asked if WW3 would break out and between which countries ? His reply was there will be a 3rd world war but it will be a class war which if you see what is happening around the world he may just be right which is what you are saying about the ever increasing gaps between the mega rich and mega poor ...
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July 06, 2021, 10:47:50 PM |
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I think you are just over reacting on thinking too much about such possibilities you are having in mind for the reason that we are all suffering into the effects of the pandemic so there is no reasoning out for wars to arise knowing that every nation is helping each other out. Over powering other nation taking advantage of the current situation is also impossible to result for wars as of the moment for the main concern is the welfare of the people saving each other's lives and such thing as chaos brought by zombies and wars are irrelevant things to come up with.
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I think you are just over reacting on thinking too much about such possibilities you are having in mind for the reason that we are all suffering into the effects of the pandemic so there is no reasoning out for wars to arise knowing that every nation is helping each other out. Over powering other nation taking advantage of the current situation is also impossible to result for wars as of the moment for the main concern is the welfare of the people saving each other's lives and such thing as chaos brought by zombies and wars are irrelevant things to come up with.
Same reaction and same words on what you had said on here.Dont know on why they do end up on presuming about wars and other irrelevant which is really not that likely to happen. We are indeed seeing the opposite thing.We have seen on how countries do support to each other instead to fight off this pandemic even though there are some small issues but it wouldnt really end up into this scenario. Becoming zombies? OP is surely watching too much movies. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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The things you have mentioned on your list are already happening one way or another. The pandemic, surely, is exacerbating the situation, but things would still have happened anyway even without it. First, poor countries will need to double the effort to catch up with other countries or else it will create chaos in that countries and might start a civil war. Poor countries have always been exerting much effort to catch up with rich countries but still chaos and civil wars are still happening. Second, Rich countries will becoming more richer while poor will becoming more poor especially if the vaccines for covid19 purchase through debt. There is a possibility that after these pandemic another country will begin to colonized other country and no one could help because they had huge resources especially for war. There has always been a wide and unfathomable chasm which divides the rich and the poor. Third, equality will no longer be applied to people living in poor countries and will be consider as slaves due to debt. More corruption activities will take place selling people or the country by selfish leaders wanting a space or position if colonization will going to take place. We know that other countries had no equal opportunities influence by their culture especially to females, elders and children. There has never been equality in the world. Equality is merely an idea, impossible yet always worth pursuing. Corruption has always been an issue since time immemorial. And opportunities were never equal. Fourth, Rich countries will become more abusive as a result of their power that will make them more corrupt to it. There will come a time that there are certain countries that will going to dominate the world and probably these countries will going to torn the world apart if they started war. The world has never ran out of abusive and dominating countries. Fifth, endless wars will going to take place and peace and freedom will be taken out from humanity. There never was a day in the world where there isn't a war happening somewhere.
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war will probably happen since China had been preparing for it, they know it's going to come. they were caught having nuclear silos on their deserts just recently. for me, i'd rather want to watch the war and bombs explode than become a zombie. if it means burned to crisp i guess the end times is worth watching. I'm pretty sure the zombie idea was taken directly from an old tribe that predicted it and then translated as something Nostradamus included in their prophecies.
I thought zombies was the dead coming back to life in those texts though, perhaps equivelant to the use of cpr and ventilators that are now widespread at least in rich countries.
All countries should have a view to ending the pandemic as the wealthy economies are to blame for it and it's cheap enough to produce the vaccines. (~€250bn to vaccinate the world with 2 doses of the vaccine). There's the other possibility that vaccines will lose their patent in 7 years so that might be what we're waiting for for some poorer countries to get it.
I think China is trying to acquire countries too, they've been trying to do that in Africa and the pandemic might help them do it (since they can't find a way to reduce their population and want a way to increase their quality of life so they look an attractive place to live) - the countries around China seem to be quite strong economic allies of Europe though: Singapore, Thailand, Bangladesh and Taiwan. And there's India off on its own with quite a lot more strength than China (being less isolationist).
it's only India that China had not been successful in making them a trade partner. the Chinese government had really invested a lot of money rebuilding their Belt and Road project which was once the ancient Silkroad. if they become successful with it they could conquer countries without even waging war. they actually improve the lives of the people along where the road goes. African cities are improving because of the trains they built.
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July 07, 2021, 06:08:14 AM |
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The pandemic started in Wuhan China and it has affected many countries around the world, as for zombies, I feel it only exists in science fiction but learned from a crazy idea to become a zombie. movie. It's like an experiment by rich people to put them in a frozen state and wait 100 or 1000 years before they can find the magic potion or improve the technology to be able to come back to life.
The idea of bringing people come back to life scares me. Due to technological advancement, possibilities are becoming endless but I don't think it is very soon or might not become successful. People are not fascinated with the concept, and it would take a huge process to be approved. I can't really blame some people if they think negatively of the future. This pandemic is unexpected as well.
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July 07, 2021, 08:49:39 AM |
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--snip-- Civil war as a result of poor countries needing to catch up with richer countries because of....what, exactly? You do realize that the US had a surplus of the Pfizer vaccine and shipped a bunch of doses to Peru and Pakistan, right? Don't lose your head over this. However, once we got receive help from other rich countries lifting our morale without pushing us to debt then that would be work of great humanity. If so, but if not probably not because all things are done just like business. You need this but I need something in you so we will exchange something for the better and that would be the kind of negotiations it will take and in the end poor countries will then can be colonized or will become slaves due to unpaid debt or unable to pay or the capability to pay. The problem that you are talking about isn't really of debt on poor countries but basic mismanagement of those countries by the politicians while the citizens allow that by being either blind and naive or simply complicit, in the corruption and exploitation of their own countries. The more i see the world, the more i feel that drawing these conclusions about "rich exploiting the poor" are becoming an excuse for people in poorer countries to not actually do anything. In today's globalized world, youth from every part of the world have access to the images of opulence and prosperity streaming from the first world. As a result, the only aspiration that they have is to somehow copy them and fake a similarity with these social media idols. This is what results in those abysmal Tiktok trends where poor young adults from third world countries copy first-world influencers, rather than spending their time in building themselves or thinking about their society and politics. You will see this pattern repeated in country after country. Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh; almost every bit of these poor countries with a huge population have their youth hooked to such idiotic trends. All they care about is the next trend or somehow getting to these richer countries. So really, the "rich" countries aren't to be blamed here. The old excuses of colonization and imperialism are becoming old. America or England or Japan or even the Asian Tigers didn't get to this place by making excuses about "rich" countries exploiting them. They did it through generations of reforms and hard work.
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July 07, 2021, 09:56:46 AM |
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An ex spy was asked if WW3 would break out and between which countries ? His reply was there will be a 3rd world war but it will be a class war which if you see what is happening around the world he may just be right which is what you are saying about the ever increasing gaps between the mega rich and mega poor ...
Also, a classic scorch earth war is close to impossible because the big nations are more focused on the resources than bombs and guns, the bombs will destroy resources so they are now changing their way to wage war against their rivals and enemies, for all we know, the war is already happening.
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July 07, 2021, 02:00:10 PM |
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@op I think you watch too many modern war movies, till your brain is affected... a few years ago the US was stirred up with Drugs that turned people into zombies but it could be prevented quickly. indeed we don't know what will happen to humans in the future but we can still think positively so that our descendants can live in peace.
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