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July 04, 2021, 03:19:32 PM
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hi,

we are starting a fintech based on mining, fully regulated with a EU license:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xeu564gK2D2HcODvy-5gihYBiFir4CCe/view?usp=drivesdk

Miners will be located in EU, free facilities, only cost is the electricity bill.

looking for investors.

This is the project, if you like it hit me up on Telegram: @thisisalie22

www.heliosfund.io (site under construction)
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July 04, 2021, 04:29:20 PM
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Hi , a few questions if possible  Wink
Do you have a website ?
Could you show us details of your EU license and what is the license for exactly ?
Think you might have to give a few more details, rather than just a Telegram contact Huh
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July 04, 2021, 10:53:27 PM
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Miners will be located in EU, free facilities, only cost is the electricity bill.


I've seen some of your previous posts, it seems that you offering this service at the $0.1/kWh electricity cost. Do you know that there in EU is also much cheaper electricity than $0.1?

I agree with @Mbitr, you should need to give here more information about you and your company & licence. One short PowerPoint presentation is not enough.

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July 05, 2021, 08:09:29 AM
Last edit: July 06, 2021, 07:12:25 PM by ilghan
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Our website is www.heliosfund.io (site under construction)

we are in touch with https://alphaumi.com/ in order to submit the application for the license in Estonia.

there are two possible licenses, the crypto license which costs 7.5k/month , as of the new requirement of hiring an estonian aml/kyc officer.

the other option is the license as an investment fund , which costs 4k/month.  We are going to opt for the investment fund license at this stage, as it's cheaper, and we still can collect crypto and fiat from investors.

 i have nothing to hide, you can come to italy where i live and meet me in person.

i know there are some few other countries where electricity is even cheaper than 0.1 usd, but we own the facilities in that country, and we save on the rent, as we don't have to pay for it.

i'm here for any other question.

we are looking for investors

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July 06, 2021, 02:20:25 AM
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So it is not yet licensed? It's quite misleading if you market it as 'fully licensed' at this stage then.

IMO, better prepare your license and website and stuff like team info first before you start looking for investors. There're dozens of scam projects who are more or less do the same thing, so investors being skeptical should be expected.

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July 06, 2021, 07:34:39 AM
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you right , we're preparing it, but it takes 60 days to have the license,therefore i put it forward, then if anyone is interested we can find an agreement and maybe he could invest after we have obtained the registration.  i said eu regulated , therefore everything is registered and scams are not possible. i'm saying fully licensed because the law firm said that unless we the parteners are related to criminal strucures, the license will be granted for sure. we are clean.
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July 06, 2021, 03:59:33 PM
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So do I understand this correctly? You want to start a project where you offer the facilities for clients to run their mining rigs? Your timing is very good with loads of mining farms closing in China. Can I just ask a quick question ... Will the electricity that are provided, be sourced from "Clean" renewable energy sources?

I think that will be a main selling point, if you can provide a location that are near to a renewable energy source. (Elon Musk's tweet about Bitcoin having to clean up their Carbon footprint, should be taken seriously.... to attract more serious Institutional investors in the future)

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July 06, 2021, 06:50:33 PM
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100 per cent of sourcing of electricity in that country comes from hydropower , figure it out that they sell it abroad as well , cos they have a surplus .

Yes it’s a fantastic time to start , prices of devices are low , hashrate is low .

We’re starting in these days . If anybody wants to jump in we’re happy to welcome him , as we own very big facilities in this country, waiting to be filled .

For any question or interest in investing :

Telegram:  @thisisalie22



www.heliosfund.io. (Site under construction )
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July 08, 2021, 10:27:41 AM
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It's annoying you're asking for investment when you haven't got anything. You've mentioned you're fully licenced but you probably haven't even submitted the application so why exaggerate?

You're not after a cryptocurrency licence because after March 10 2020 it's become almost impossible to get one in Estonia because you need a physical office and Board in Estonia estonia-company.ee so if you're only offering mining and you've got a cheap Wordpress website template that hasn't even been changed to promote your investment opportunity then you haven't started off well.

Our website is www.heliosfund.io (site under construction)

we are in touch with https://alphaumi.com/ in order to submit the application for the license in Estonia.

there are two possible licenses, the crypto license which costs 7.5k/month , as of the new requirement of hiring an estonian aml/kyc officer.

the other option is the license as an investment fund , which costs 4k/month.  We are going to opt for the investment fund license at this stage, as it's cheaper, and we still can collect crypto and fiat from investors.

 i have nothing to hide, you can come to italy where i live and meet me in person.

i know there are some few other countries where electricity is even cheaper than 0.1 usd, but we own the facilities in that country, and we save on the rent, as we don't have to pay for it.

i'm here for any other question.

we are looking for investors

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Telegram:  @thisisalie22

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we cannot collect any money until the EU license will be in place.  but of course we can collect interests for collaborations/investments , reservations for a discount.  We're gonna have a physical office in Estonia and employees who will be in charge of aml/kyc, as required by the law. I said that we're gonna obtain a license in 60 days because our law firm said so, as the Estonian government has no reason to reject the application,unless you have been convicted as related to criminal structures, which none of us has ever been.  that's why we're sure about our looming authorization.However, we're not gonna apply for a crypto license, but for a license as an investment fund, as with that license we'll still be able to collect and give back both crypto and eur,usd. Nothing to hide here.

for info, hit me up:

Telegram: @thisisalie22
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July 12, 2021, 07:30:54 AM
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So you are developing a cloud mining project and will do an ICO to develop this? I have seen a lot of this in the past I even joined a bounty campaign, right now there are no successful cloud mining projects in the market, don't put to much hype on your project until you launch it, investors will see if this is another Ponzi scheme cloud mining based project.

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100 per cent of sourcing of electricity in that country comes from hydropower , figure it out that they sell it abroad as well , cos they have a surplus .

There is no such country in the EU, the only country that completely relies on hydro in Europe is Albania, and they do import energy.
Having this messed up from the start I wonder what's real in this project of yours because:

- why do you need an ICO for this? You could simply sell mining contracts, there is no need for tokens. Bitdeer is doing this just fine
- you just realize you have to pay more than the usual 100$ for an Estonian license, and you need the money from investors even before that?
- you haven't even managed to set up a WordPress website but you want to be in charge of a token, a mining company, an investment fund...

We’re starting in these days . If anybody wants to jump in we’re happy to welcome him , as we own very big facilities in this country, waiting to be filled .

Yeah, you start these days but you have zero mining gear...
Btw, some pics of those "very big facilities" would be nice, as your presentation has only stock photos.



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July 12, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
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we're not doing any ico, whoever is willing to invest in us because and believes in our business model is gonna have convertible notes/equities in return, as a  normal company /startup .

don't understand your point, as every project has to start from somewhere, and with regards to the piece of article you posted it clearly states that private energy producers are about to cover even the small portion of electricity which has been imported (30% trending lower). is it not 70-80% hydropower green enough?  :-)

we're not worried by the price of an estonian license,as it costs just 20k , but we aknowledge that the more capital we raise now the more we save on miners expenditure, as we can place bulk orders at a discount. This to benefit the gains of the customers as well.

our cto is an experienced miner, of course we have mining rigs. we have been already doing personally what we are pitching here. And luckily, it works.








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I'm trying to understand why your website hasn't changed since my last post. What's holding it up? It's just a Wordpress website which you've got to get ready to attract investors.


we cannot collect any money until the EU license will be in place.  but of course we can collect interests for collaborations/investments , reservations for a discount.  We're gonna have a physical office in Estonia and employees who will be in charge of aml/kyc, as required by the law. I said that we're gonna obtain a license in 60 days because our law firm said so, as the Estonian government has no reason to reject the application,unless you have been convicted as related to criminal structures, which none of us has ever been.  that's why we're sure about our looming authorization.However, we're not gonna apply for a crypto license, but for a license as an investment fund, as with that license we'll still be able to collect and give back both crypto and eur,usd. Nothing to hide here.

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you're are right , we're working on  the site, it just takes time . in this phase we just want to collect interest of people to invest in the company for convertible notes/equities in return and to collect reservations for deposits as well, at a discount.

for direct info, Telegram:  @thisisalie22
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The Wordpress website doesn't take time because it's a template you simply edit text and change photos to fit your needs. You should've edited it or paid a designer before you did anything else. How's it possible you're going to collect interest of investors when they don't know anything about you or how the funds will be used?

The Helios Funds pdf doesn't mention names of people running it so how's it possible to trust you? You've started your business-plan in the wrong way.

you're are right , we're working on  the site, it just takes time . in this phase we just want to collect interest of people to invest in the company for convertible notes/equities in return and to collect reservations for deposits as well, at a discount.

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this is just a forum of cryptocurrency experts, they know what is good or what is not.

of course we're not going to advert ourselves on bigger channel with a a site under construction.

the aim here is to discuss the idea, get in touch with the people who could be interested, and make private arrangements for the near future.

we cannot collect any money now but we can collect early interests in early investments on our company for convertible bonds/equities in return, or pledges of deposits at a discount.

we can have zoom calls if you're interested and we can show our documents and identities. nothing to hide.

Telegram: @thisislie22

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we're not doing any ico, whoever is willing to invest in us because and believes in our business model is gonna have convertible notes/equities in return, as a  normal company /startup .
 it works.


You are dishonest in saying this when your site clearly states in your FAQ that you are going to do an ICO
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How can I participate in the ICO Token sale?
Once ICO period is launched, You can purchased Token with Etherum, Bitcoin or Litecoin.

I don't think it's worth investing and I don't recommend investing in your project because there is a hint that you launching a Ponzi scheme and you are not honest in your words better shut your project or you will be expose.

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we're not doing any ico, whoever is willing to invest in us because and believes in our business model is gonna have convertible notes/equities in return, as a  normal company /startup .

You are looking for a cryptocurrency license and you're looking for investments, I assumed you're going for an ICO or at least IPO, so if you're a start-up like this why do you need that Estonian license when you're based in Italy and your business is located in Albania, which again, is not part of the EU so your license will not cover that part of your activity? And if you don't plan on running an ICO why do you sell tokens?

is it not 70-80% hydropower green enough?  :-)

When you have made claims about 100% and now in a matter of minutes you're down to 70% most people would have a feeling of their investments going down the same rate.

our cto is an experienced miner, of course we have mining rigs. we have been already doing personally what we are pitching here.

Then it's pretty easy to prove what you have, choose a mining pool, create a worker there and show us your mining gear hash rate.
I'm sure that if you have an experience cto that would be trivial..

But I see what's your aim here:
There is zero discussion about your project, you give zero information, you show no proof of anything being real but every single post you spam your telegram link to talk collect interest from "investors".

you're are right , we're working on  the site, it just takes time . in this phase we just want to collect interest of people to invest in the company for convertible notes/equities in return and to collect reservations for deposits as well, at a discount.

we cannot collect any money now but we can collect early interests in early investments on our company for convertible bonds/equities in return, or pledges of deposits at a discount.



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the site is just a default site, still under development, as said there will be no ico at all. ico is there because it was part of the layout. we're still building the site

How can you claim that it's a ponzi scheme if we don't collect any money and have said multiple times that this is gonna be a fully EU regulated company.

If you run away with the money and you are a registered company, you go to jail, as everything is under the sun if we talk about a eu regulated company which holds a license.

Oppositely, if you run an ico you can be anonymous and scam anyone you want.

That's why we have chosen not to run an ico, but to follow the regulated path of an eu company.

we don't plan to sell any tokens, just convertible notes/equities/pledges of deposits in this phase.

to be an investment fund you need a license, it costs 700k of deposits in malta, and 20k in estonia, i'm not aware of other jurisdictions which grant you a license as an investment fund.

we're gonna have our devices insured against theft and fire,plus private security, as they all do.

Once we get an eu license we can trade/invest worldwide so no limitations for Albania as well.

the fact that the albanian hydropwer rate has dropped slightly in the last year it doesn't mean that this year it's not gonna be closer to 100 per cent. i don't see this as being the core issue anyway, as it's just a discussion about energy sourcing.

trust me there's no way to scam people if you're a registered company, without ending up in jail.

if i dont' give many info is because i don't have anything more ther than this to share atm, as we're just starting.

it's like bitcoin, if you see the potential and buy convertible notes/equities now in the beginning, you could end up with huge gains.


Hope this helps



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