We Have Passed the Thousand Deaths by Vaccine Per Month

[Xinarae*]

The coronavirus vaccine is not working properly the rate of infection is highest among people who have contracted the virus there are also many poor people who are infected with the travel virus but are not getting proper treatment. They are not getting any treatment in the hospital so we have killed thousands of people every month with vaccines.

[Gyfts]

The death rate is so low, there are literally dozens of things you should be worried about before catching Covid.  In fact, if you're scared of Covid and you don't have a serious medical condition causing you this fear, you should probably just stay indoors for the rest of your life.

It's not just the rate of death, it's the total number of cases. Even if death rate is low as a proportion of cases, if there are a lot of cases — as in a global pandemic — then there are a lot of deaths.
The current total deaths from CV19 is 4 million, globally.
And even if you are young and perfectly healthy, you should have some empathy for others. If you catch the virus and experience only mild symptoms, you can easily pass it on to someone more vulnerable, and kill them.

Which is why you protect the most vulnerable. Doesn't make sense to confine young and healthy people to their homes, take their job, and print money from a printer because they can beat the disease fine.

If you want to make the case for vulnerable people to hunker down, then it makes sense. If young people transmit this amongst each other, it's no big deal, just limit contact from older folks. Basically, don't do what NY Governor did and ship covid positive patients into nursing home and turn it into a death trap.

[franky1]

governments didnt "take their jobs"
governments of most countries gave out stimulus for employers to PAY THE BILLS
meaning businesses could without being operational. be in limbo of still running and still have employment contracts.
however businesses decided instead of using the funds to pay the bills/leases/electric to be in limbo. the business owners took that cash and put it in its own pocket. and when the freeholder wasnt getting paid and when the utility company wasnt getting paid. they switched off the electric/water. and told their leaseholders/tenants their occupancy was in jeopardy. and so the employer decided to shut down the business

yep greed of business owners taking advantage of the events for personal gain was what "took the jobs"

without any stimulus. more employees would have suffered.
but if business owners were not greedy. less employees would have suffered

in short if there was no government. everyone would have suffered financial loss.
the government did not cause the loss. the business management decision of greed caused the most loss

if i was running the economy, i would have only stimulated the utility companies to keep the water flowing and the electric running and the internet streaming(zero the bill to businesses/residents).
froze all mortgages/rents/leases only paying out the LEGAL interest payments(more zero bills)
and then give individuals a living allowance.

basically where its a true limbo. of zero loss and just stagnant waiting period. where no "debt" is created

however trying to 'keep the economy alive' by giving businesses funds but with no pre-requisite of how the funds should be used wisely.. greed took over which reacted onto employment losses
i guarantee you in all the businesses that layed off employees. the CEO/boss still accrued more income in 2020 than its employees got. and in most cases more then what the 'bills' would have been, even when claiming "we didnt make any money in 2020"

[Cnut237]

don't do what NY Governor did and ship covid positive patients into nursing home and turn it into a death trap.

Yes, that's what happened here in the UK, too. Utterly appalling decision-making.

Which is why you protect the most vulnerable. Doesn't make sense to confine young and healthy people to their homes, take their job, and print money from a printer because they can beat the disease fine.

It's not that clear-cut, though. The question of whether or not someone is vulnerable doesn't have a yes/no answer, there are obviously degrees of vulnerability, which is also dependent on factors such as viral load.
If governments didn't force people to stay at home, for example office-workers, if they made it voluntary... then there would be huge pressure from companies to force people in to work, regardless of level of vulnerability, or with some arbitrary age cut-off.
The best answer is the answer with the lowest death toll, which is implement periodic lock-downs of varying severity depending on current case numbers, until the level of vaccination is sufficient to confer effective herd immunity. And then fight any emerging variants with annual booster shots.
A government has to make a trade-off between economic damage and death toll. If you are going to impinge on people's freedoms, then better to impinge on their freedom to go to the shops than on their freedom to be alive. One is temporary, the other is permanent.

[franky1]

Cnut you also forgot to add the issue that there are some obvious people who avoid doctors and instead seek guideance from herbal voodoo and conspiracy cults. and so they dont know they are vulnerable and only know the price of sage and witchcraft

so its hard to make policy to protect only the vulnerable when most of the vulnerable with mental issues(badecker and jetcash types) will never admit/know of their own vulnerability.

its funny because the main complainers about the lockdowns are the ones most likely to get sicker than average due to the avoidance of seeking healthcare/checkups, medicine when they needed it in the past, by their own claims

after all if they are suffocating but have their principals of avoiding healthcare. then they will less likely to survive.

[arielbit]

Cnut you also forgot to add the issue that there are some obvious people who avoid doctors and instead seek guideance from herbal voodoo and conspiracy cults. and so they dont know they are vulnerable and only know the price of sage and witchcraft

so its hard to make policy to protect only the vulnerable when most of the vulnerable with mental issues(badecker and jetcash types) will never admit/know of their own vulnerability.

its funny because the main complainers about the lockdowns are the ones most likely to get sicker than average due to the avoidance of seeking healthcare/checkups, medicine when they needed it in the past, by their own claims

after all if they are suffocating but have their principals of avoiding healthcare. then they will less likely to survive.

just removed a delta variant booger in my my nose.

i knew it was an easy job for my immune system. 

[franky1]

Cnut you also forgot to add the issue that there are some obvious people who avoid doctors and instead seek guideance from herbal voodoo and conspiracy cults. and so they dont know they are vulnerable and only know the price of sage and witchcraft

so its hard to make policy to protect only the vulnerable when most of the vulnerable with mental issues(badecker and jetcash types) will never admit/know of their own vulnerability.

its funny because the main complainers about the lockdowns are the ones most likely to get sicker than average due to the avoidance of seeking healthcare/checkups, medicine when they needed it in the past, by their own claims

after all if they are suffocating but have their principals of avoiding healthcare. then they will less likely to survive.

just removed a delta variant booger in my my nose.

i knew it was an easy job for my immune system. 

with no pre-infection to have built immunity. the symptoms wont include a runny nose or sneezing as your body has not learned to use such immune tactics on a pathogen it is unaware of.
so if you were infected. it would be in your lungs doing damage and not triggering a runny nose/sneezing to get rid of it.
so blow your nose as much as you like but the virus is still in your lungs

[arielbit]

Cnut you also forgot to add the issue that there are some obvious people who avoid doctors and instead seek guideance from herbal voodoo and conspiracy cults. and so they dont know they are vulnerable and only know the price of sage and witchcraft

so its hard to make policy to protect only the vulnerable when most of the vulnerable with mental issues(badecker and jetcash types) will never admit/know of their own vulnerability.

its funny because the main complainers about the lockdowns are the ones most likely to get sicker than average due to the avoidance of seeking healthcare/checkups, medicine when they needed it in the past, by their own claims

after all if they are suffocating but have their principals of avoiding healthcare. then they will less likely to survive.

just removed a delta variant booger in my my nose.

i knew it was an easy job for my immune system. 

with no pre-infection to have built immunity. the symptoms wont include a runny nose or sneezing as your body has not learned to use such immune tactics on a pathogen it is unaware of.
so if you were infected. it would be in your lungs doing damage and not triggering a runny nose/sneezing to get rid of it.
so blow your nose as much as you like but the virus is still in your lungs

no worries, the virus can hang out with my other virus pets in my lungs, they are all welcome.

[BADecker]

Cnut you also forgot to add the issue that there are some obvious people who avoid doctors and instead seek guideance from herbal voodoo and conspiracy cults. and so they dont know they are vulnerable and only know the price of sage and witchcraft

so its hard to make policy to protect only the vulnerable when most of the vulnerable with mental issues(badecker and jetcash types) will never admit/know of their own vulnerability.

its funny because the main complainers about the lockdowns are the ones most likely to get sicker than average due to the avoidance of seeking healthcare/checkups, medicine when they needed it in the past, by their own claims

after all if they are suffocating but have their principals of avoiding healthcare. then they will less likely to survive.

just removed a delta variant booger in my my nose.

i knew it was an easy job for my immune system. 

with no pre-infection to have built immunity. the symptoms wont include a runny nose or sneezing as your body has not learned to use such immune tactics on a pathogen it is unaware of.
so if you were infected. it would be in your lungs doing damage and not triggering a runny nose/sneezing to get rid of it.
so blow your nose as much as you like but the virus is still in your lungs

If your immune system has built up resistance to SARS-CoV-1, it will recognize all the variants of Covid. That's why mostly old, unhealthy folks died from Covid... at least until they injected it into you, and now you got it from the jab.

[Poker Player]

Personally I know some people who passed away after taking the corona vaccine but not hospitals accepted that this happened due to vaccine, this is just a natural stroke meanwhile the same vaccine side effects are majorly the stroke which literally means the vaccine killed those few guys right?

I see among people who are against vaccines, the argument that such and such a person died after getting the vaccine. The fact that one thing happens after another does not mean that the first causes the second. If you fart in front of one person, and another and another until you reach millions of people, you will see how there is a percentage of people who have died after you fart, which does not mean that the fart is the cause.

[BADecker]

Personally I know some people who passed away after taking the corona vaccine but not hospitals accepted that this happened due to vaccine, this is just a natural stroke meanwhile the same vaccine side effects are majorly the stroke which literally means the vaccine killed those few guys right?

I see among people who are against vaccines, the argument that such and such a person died after getting the vaccine. The fact that one thing happens after another does not mean that the first causes the second. If you fart in front of one person, and another and another until you reach millions of people, you will see how there is a percentage of people who have died after you fart, which does not mean that the fart is the cause.

Love your thinking, lol. Nobody ever saw a virus jump from one person to another. No need for stupid masks or lockdowns. Virus never did anything. Nobody eve saw one.

The so-called Covid virus was manufactured in the lab by puzzling pieces and snippets of DNA and RNA together until they thought they had something. No virus. A complete invention.

[PrimeNumber7]

The vaccine is hardly risk free, however it is much less risky to take the vaccine than it is to get Covid. For most healthy people, the risk of death or serious negative consequences is very low, however the risk is lower for the vaccine for most people.

If too few people get the vaccine, then if you don’t get the vaccine, you will likely eventually get Covid. There may be a subset of people that taking the vaccine is more risky than getting Covid and those people should not get the vaccine. Further research is necessary to determine which subsets of people this applies to. In the meantime, unless you have specific knowledge that would lead you to believe that taking the vaccine is more risky than getting Covid, you should get the vaccine.

[Victorycoin]

The number of people dying after being vaccinated is much lower but even then it is true that people are not completely safe even after getting the vaccine because there are a lot of precautions that need to be taken after getting the vaccine and there is a risk of re-infection. Everyone has been saying for a long time that there is no way to get rid of Corona completely, but the only warning is to free us from Corona so I personally think that Corona can only free us through our consciousness.

[Cnut237]

Everyone has been saying for a long time that there is no way to get rid of Corona completely, but the only warning is to free us from Corona so I personally think that Corona can only free us through our consciousness.

Viruses mutate. Everything that lives and reproduces, mutates. Mutations are simply copying errors. Some turn out to benefit the organism, and make it a better fit for its environment. Other mutations are detrimental.

So if we have something like Covid-19, which becomes a global pandemic, then there are many many instances of the virus around the world. This means many many mutations. Current vaccines are designed to protect us against the initial variants. They also have some beneficial effect against new variants, new mutations, that may arise... but are not perfect.

What this means in practice is that for so long as the virus continues to circulate, new variants will arise, and new vaccines will need to be designed to combat them. The good thing is that as vaccination increases, and effective herd immunity starts to reduce the spread, then there will be fewer new variants. Immunity will also build up as this ceases to become a 'novel' virus.

Eventually it will simply become endemic, and no more of a problem than flu.

[BADecker]

Everyone has been saying for a long time that there is no way to get rid of Corona completely, but the only warning is to free us from Corona so I personally think that Corona can only free us through our consciousness.

Viruses mutate. Everything that lives and reproduces, mutates. Mutations are simply copying errors. Some turn out to benefit the organism, and make it a better fit for its environment. Other mutations are detrimental.

So if we have something like Covid-19, which becomes a global pandemic, then there are many many instances of the virus around the world. This means many many mutations. Current vaccines are designed to protect us against the initial variants. They also have some beneficial effect against new variants, new mutations, that may arise... but are not perfect.

What this means in practice is that for so long as the virus continues to circulate, new variants will arise, and new vaccines will need to be designed to combat them. The good thing is that as vaccination increases, and effective herd immunity starts to reduce the spread, then there will be fewer new variants. Immunity will also build up as this ceases to become a 'novel' virus.

Eventually it will simply become endemic, and no more of a problem than flu.

Viruses mutate. When you control the mutation like Fauci and Big Pharma control the Covid mutations, you can mutate them into anything you want, thereby having a never-ending group of people to pay more for this vaxx or that... all following the way you mutate the viruses.

It doesn't matter where Covid came from. What is important is that they made it, intentionally, through their isolation process.

[Ultegra134]

Harvard

VAERS

The weirdest thing for me is not your "creative" mathematics, but the fact that you are saying that Harvard and VAERS are reputable sources of data.
Whenever I've posted studies and data from universities and official bodies before, you've refused to accept it, and linked out to some YouTube lunatic instead.
But now you're saying that Harvard and VAERS are, in this instance at least, to be trusted. The inference here has to be that you suddenly trust them because you think they back up your pre-conceived conclusions. The fact that they don't is neither here nor there, really.

I wouldn't argue with a conspiracy theorist, I've also made a similar thread about UK's confirmed cases, and he would make stupid bold claims which had already been debunked. On top of that, he would claim that the debunking theory was a hoax and would continue supporting his initial claim.

Conspiracy theorists will question years of research and studies, with a simple blogspot article or Youtube video they found.

[BADecker]

Harvard

VAERS

The weirdest thing for me is not your "creative" mathematics, but the fact that you are saying that Harvard and VAERS are reputable sources of data.
Whenever I've posted studies and data from universities and official bodies before, you've refused to accept it, and linked out to some YouTube lunatic instead.
But now you're saying that Harvard and VAERS are, in this instance at least, to be trusted. The inference here has to be that you suddenly trust them because you think they back up your pre-conceived conclusions. The fact that they don't is neither here nor there, really.

Wow! I give you all kinds of data supported by accredited institutions, and you want to deny it just because I was the one who showed it to you. You won't listen when I show you stuff from thousands of doctors around the world, and now you won't even accept the CDC and Harvard.

But you did get me. For a little while there, I thought maybe you actually pulled your head out of the sand-hole so you see a little beyond your own imagination.

You should be thankful to me that I am informing you of things you obviously can't see on your own. Given your density, it's kinda silly for me to think that way, right?

Harvard

VAERS

The weirdest thing for me is not your "creative" mathematics, but the fact that you are saying that Harvard and VAERS are reputable sources of data.
Whenever I've posted studies and data from universities and official bodies before, you've refused to accept it, and linked out to some YouTube lunatic instead.
But now you're saying that Harvard and VAERS are, in this instance at least, to be trusted. The inference here has to be that you suddenly trust them because you think they back up your pre-conceived conclusions. The fact that they don't is neither here nor there, really.

I wouldn't argue with a conspiracy theorist, I've also made a similar thread about UK's confirmed cases, and he would make stupid bold claims which had already been debunked. On top of that, he would claim that the debunking theory was a hoax and would continue supporting his initial claim.

Conspiracy theorists will question years of research and studies, with a simple blogspot article or Youtube video they found.

That's obvious... that you wouldn't argue with a conspiracy theorist. In fact, you barely seem to care what you believe. If you did, you wouldn't be spouting conspiracy theories.

[Natsuu]

It's funny how BADecker's comment ^^^ is ironic. Well its pretty obvious as almost all of his post has someone commenting about the irony.

Anyway, we wouldn't thank you, not even an inch for "INFORMING" us with a conspiracy with baseless claims/stands.