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July 07, 2021, 04:05:09 AM
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I had so much fun reading the replies especially in the first page of the OP thread. I was surprised with the different reactions shared thoughts and lessons and variety of ideals and culture too.

I think this could serve as a calling to all individuals who are trying hard forgetting time with their love ones. Well hope this OP has helped.
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July 07, 2021, 04:49:45 AM
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Are you willing to be vaccinated?

I am a person with comorbidity so I'm afraid to be vaccinated because if it will cause a side effect to my body that I couldn't fight, it could result for me to die. I would just rather die the way I want where I am happy than to get any brand of vaccine, plus they don't guarantee yet that you won't have COVID anymore. If the people around me are vaccinated, that is already enough to lessen the risk for me of contracting the virus. I also don't get out of the house so there is a very low chance for me to get the virus.
That's the same case for me. I never have or do not remember any time that I've been consulted with a doctor.
I would get my health to be checked first before I get a vaccine of my choice.
I also stayed at home and follow the protocols; I have a low risk of being infected.

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July 07, 2021, 05:03:06 AM
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Well, because of covid19 many had been struggling in able survive even if it means that not following the minimum health standard protocols against covid19. This the reality of what has been happening around especially in poorer countries. But what can we do? I myself too strugling to survive.
In order to survive , first we must adopt in the situation , how can we do this? by limiting our demands , instead of eating 3-4 times before pandemic, try to have at least  2 meals per da specially if we have stopped in work since we don't need more energy daily.

this will also help our body having healed as fasting will take place.


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even if we are not willing yet "WE MUST" because this is the only way that the pandemic will stop and the dying will also become little by little.

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July 07, 2021, 05:28:57 AM
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I like your words, very enlightening...

next august I will get a second batch of vaccine injections, I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.



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July 07, 2021, 10:30:50 AM
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I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.

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July 07, 2021, 05:49:50 PM
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I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.

In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-18 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.
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July 07, 2021, 09:02:42 PM
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I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
This is not possible, it would be an ideal of course but if the companies do not want to do it then the governments cannot force them and the reason for this is that the next time there is a pandemic then those companies are going to argue they lost money during the current one and they will refuse to create vaccines during that time, and if that future pandemic is even worse than the current one the days and weeks lost will be critical, so while from an humanitarian point of view what you are saying makes sense it will not happen.



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July 07, 2021, 09:40:16 PM
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I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.

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July 07, 2021, 09:55:34 PM
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I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.

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July 07, 2021, 10:08:10 PM
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I'm still surprised that there are still people who feel that the covid vaccine is dangerous for the body. let's use the time well, do good, and don't hide your assets from family.

You are one of those who blindly believe in media propaganda that vaccines are safe, but these are vaccines that have not been sufficiently tested, and for which it is not known at all what effect they have in the long run. More than 10 000 deaths are currently under investigation in the EU, all linked to covid vaccines, and those with mild or severe side effects are measured in the hundreds of thousands. Since they started vaccinating children under the age of 18, a very large number of deaths have been recorded - all of them were healthy children and without any need to be vaccinated.

Pharma industries are in the race for this covid vaccine, so high likely that they really didn't have enough trials for different types/conditions of the body. We can say maybe, some are premature but if they passed the minimum requirements, they are good to go. But they have different efficacy on different people. As trials are not that wide and varied, they don't know the after effect of the vaccine for certain rare conditions of the body.
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July 08, 2021, 07:14:17 AM
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I am okay with that but what makes me disgusted is that the vaccines seems like being traded and not freely distributed. I think all countries should help the production of the vaccines and they should not buy it. In my opinion, in the name of humanity, the companies who produce the vaccines should not take a profit from it. I think it will be better if countries only pay the production cost only then the vaccines should freely distributed to the citizens. Or I think vaccines should not be patended so every country can produce it freely, for me that is the part of humanity.
Don't expect for this thing to happen.This is becoming a business and theres no such thing about free distribution knowing about the cost of creating vaccine is already an expense and yes it does sounds
bad but its just a typical thing.

Pharmaceuticals will really be charging up something or selling it simply.Try to look on how many companies had tried out to create one of this corona virus pandemic?

We have hear out some rumors about business taking which Im not really surprised at all.
Business will always be business. It will not stop making returns since it also start with huge capital particularly for the vaccines that should be acquired by the government. The government should be the one to pay for it and it should be distributed freely to its citizens.

Vaccines does not guarantee that you won't be covid free for the rest of your life. There are still chances that you will be covid 19 positive but you will only experience mild symptoms unlike those who never got vaccinated and this virus will always be a big threat for their health.
The government needs vaccines for its people so that the economy will recover if people work normally. with mass vaccination, it costs money, and this comes from the tax sector. In a situation like this, I think the government will immediately make facsimiles, so that people are healthy and the economy will run smoothly, moreover, of course the government will be able to find income from the tax sector

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I think I will choose to get vaccinated. Although a lot of news is about vaccinations causing many deaths due to complications, I think this probability is still relatively small. We should not refuse to get vaccinated because of some adverse reactions. If we don’t Vaccination, when we go out to contact many people, we may inevitably be infected with the virus. Vaccination is an effective means to resist the virus. Instead of waiting to be infected with the new coronavirus, it is better to get vaccinated, even if you will still be infected. But your mild symptoms are not too serious. Of course, if you are not in good health, you can not get the vaccine first, but I think normal people can get the vaccine. This is not only for your own life and health, but also more. Protect the whole family and even the country well.
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In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.
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The main problem is not that if you don't take vaccine you will die but if you got infected it will unknowingly spread to your family members who are in your contacts and in today's world many old people have many problems like asthma, blood pressure and diabetes which can cause severe damage to their health and that's most concerning part for this.The vaccine is not trusted or if any issue are there I have still got myself vaccinated for sake of me and my family members.It is been immunity booster for some and some got several problems after taking the dose so you can't trust it Fully.So it depends upon you whether you want to take it or not.

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In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.
- My country does not have such regulations on vaccination but the number of vaccines is still a very limited number, almost only concentrated in big cities to avoid larger outbreaks but despite such favoritism for central cities, a few reports of risks have also caused quite a few people to consider vaccination. Perhaps vaccination needs more positive results to motivate people to actively participate and above all, we should still limit outdoor activities even when vaccinated.


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When people talk about struggling for survival. Poverty and shortages. Automatically what comes to mind is encouragement for people to grow their own food and become more DIY oriented. Its amazing how high expectations for vaccines are. People desperately want life to return to normal and vaccines are viewed as the best method to achieve this. But then I see some US states and officials denying the vaccinated any privileges over unvaccinated. Receiving the vaccine doesn't negate mask mandates and requirements to wear a mask. The vaccinated do not enjoy relaxed travel restrictions. The motive for being vaccinated decreases in value if receiving the vaccine doesn't allow ones life to return to normalcy over the unvaccinated.

I would be curious to know what happened with Bill Gates being a poster boy for the vaccine movement. He gave talks about vaccines for many years prior to the pandemic. Now he's being thrown under a bus by the media. That Donald Trump of all people stepped up to endorse COVID vaccines in Bill Gates absence. I feel like there's much that could be said on this topic, that isn't being said. The silence is deafening.
Maybe that could be the case in USA I do not know but in my nation people who are vaccinated can travel outside of the nation whereas people who are not vaccinated can't go to any other nation, same goes for people who are coming into our nation as well, if you are non-vaccinated, you can't come into our nation and if you are vaccinated you can.

There are still mask mandates because vaccination is not there to stop the spread of the virus, it is there to make the virus less likely to kill you, until the day comes when humanity do not worry about dying from this, and we can drop the numbers into 50k death per year even if we live our normal life, mask will stay, only will be lifted when we reach to a level where it kills as much as flu or at least close, we are not there just yet. Not getting vaccinated has just one result ; more likely to die. Doesn't mean that you will die, just means that there is more likelihood of you dying over being vaccinated, some people are not sure so they take the risk, but I rather not.
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July 08, 2021, 04:07:48 PM
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Those are the the things that you have to consider, not just you alone but those people who are also prone getting infected.

If your body can take the virus and if you survive with it, but how about those who are prone in getting the same infections but their health is not good like yours, you need to think of them each time you interact with your love ones.

The main problem is not that if you don't take vaccine you will die but if you got infected it will unknowingly spread to your family members who are in your contacts and in today's world many old people have many problems like asthma, blood pressure and diabetes which can cause severe damage to their health and that's most concerning part for this.

I also do, protecting not only myself but most for the sake of my family, and those people who are close to me.

If this vaccine can help lessen the chance of getting infected then taking the shots is the best thing to do.

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In my country the existing vaccines are prohibited from being used for under-19l8 years old and it is true that after the vaccine there are side effects and the media says that it is normal  They even say that just drinking cough medicine can make you sleepy, how about if you get vaccinated there are no side effects.  It makes sense that the current vaccine has not passed the stage of testing it should have passed.

Same here in our country those 18 years old below are not yet qualified on the vaccines available here in our country. At first people were hesitant to get vaccinated due to reported side effects of vaccination in other countries but now people in our country were already convince to get vaccinated but still our government keep on reminding us to still get protected and practice health protocols against this virus even after we get vaccinated.

I'm just a little dubious when it comes to getting vaccinated because of course there will be side effects later if it doesn't match our immune system, that's what I'm worried about.

Seeing from local news in my country there are many side effects after being vaccinated, from various body heat, vomiting, convulsions and also the body becomes weak and paralyzed, I am even horrified to see this news but will this be guaranteed by the government after many vaccinations later?

I think what needs to be done is just to maintain a healthy body pattern and maintain immunity.

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July 08, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
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I'm a man whose entire background revolves around Science, and who worked with the virus firsthand, I definitely will take the shot (which I already did btw) without any hesitations whatsoever. There's really nothing negative about getting vaccinated save for a few outliers. That's where pre-screening comes into play wherein you would be profiled based on your medical history, and whether or not you're going to be vaccinated or just be in the sidelines until further data are collected regarding the effects of the vaccine to those individuals with similar yet milder symptoms than you.

There's really no other way around a pandemic except for introducing a vaccine and developing herd immunity as more and more people take the shot to protect those who cannot receive it. The only reason why this current lineup of vaccines is controversial is because it's done in record time as compared to the previous ones that were concocted by scientists all over the world. We have to take into consideration that technology advances, and so does our ability to formulate, analyze, and study vaccines that are generally safe for use in the shortest time possible.
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Yes. It is important to be vaccinated. It is our protection against the deadly virus. Though it is not 100% fully protected, still, you will not develop serious illness if you get infected. You will still be infected but it will be just mild. I, myself, want to be vaccinated but I have lots of allergies, I first have to consult my doctor and get a medical clearance prior to vaccination. I am hypersensitive so I"ll ask my doctor first if it is okay for me to get vaccinated. For now, I am extra careful, i do doubdle masking and distancing myself to other people to make sure i didnt go close contact with other people.

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