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July 09, 2021, 05:23:33 AM |
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Gaming sites are for people to have some fun while casinos are created for people to make money while having fun, I don't care about the design as long as I have a chance to make a profit and I have no problem withdrawing my earnings, now if I am going just going to play I will look for great design and gaming with good server.
As long as you are not becoming addicted and knows where to limit your self then i think there are no issue at all. Either for fun or for making money it doesnt matter , just make sure not to get hooked and make trouble for your life.
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July 09, 2021, 06:51:15 AM |
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If a gamer is playing he will look at the design and not on income that they are going to get if a gambler is playing he will look at the profit and the house edge and provably fair, these are two different people and it depends on what kind of players they are catering gambling casinos do not need a stunning design, they just give them provably fair games and gamblers will play.
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July 09, 2021, 09:01:32 AM |
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Many people love to play roguelike games. Usually these are games with graphics reminiscent of the 90s. And there is another type of games - incremental ones, some of which have no graphics at all, but at the same time they are very addictive to the players. Thus, it is obvious that even if we do not consider gambling, there is no direct correlation between beautiful graphics and the degree of player involvement. This means that most likely the most important element in the game is the gameplay, and beauty is in third place (convenient design is in second place).
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July 09, 2021, 11:37:10 AM |
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If a gamer is playing he will look at the design and not on income that they are going to get if a gambler is playing he will look at the profit and the house edge and provably fair, these are two different people and it depends on what kind of players they are catering gambling casinos do not need a stunning design, they just give them provably fair games and gamblers will play.
Yes agree might be like this . Gamers on gambling more like in RPG games they have fun with the game and gambling inside the game . but pure gamble are more consent about his money. its doesn't matter about the design of the game, like dice its only high and low game. or crash . just watching simulator plane to go moon ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 09, 2021, 01:49:07 PM |
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It's because in gambling-type of games, what matters most is the site's approach to its users as we are talking about their "money" here. The site layout is a must but it doesn't need to be fully applied with a hardcore layout but if considered, it's another +.
If I remember it right, there's a thread here before asking the community what they looked at the casinos.
Only a few answers about the design and layout. Mostly, how the site is keeping in touch with their users.
I think you have a point, that money is the biggest aspect but most sites seem to get it wrong by thinking it is "safety and security" of those funds,,, which anyway is almost difficult for any centralized platform to prove. But people want their withdrawals asap, and without issues and problems. You do that and people will keep coming back. It is quite simple for a casino in the end:)
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July 09, 2021, 01:57:04 PM |
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I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them. What do these games have to have for you?
Greed hooks the audience to be honest, the urge to make money or atleast how our luck has been while doing this makes the curiosity and keep the people to keep gambling there and this ks literally for new gamblers. Once people familiar with the gambling with try to explore the games because casino games are innumerable and always keep us more excited compared to other field like video games or social network.
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July 09, 2021, 02:10:54 PM |
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In general, almost all game can bind people to continue playing without any coercion because of the challenges of the game, visualization and curiosity to win the game. Game creator seem to understand very well how people will always play game because there are real challenge in them as well as attractive displays. In the context of gambling, the visualization and challenge of winning bets from the game will make the players addicted. These two thing seem to be the basics of a game.
Once, I was so addicted to the soccer video game that I spent a lot of time and money just enjoying the game. Definitely not because of the money, but there is entertainment and other stuff contained within the game itself.
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July 09, 2021, 04:08:52 PM |
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In general, almost all game can bind people to continue playing without any coercion because of the challenges of the game, visualization and curiosity to win the game. Game creator seem to understand very well how people will always play game because there are real challenge in them as well as attractive displays. In the context of gambling, the visualization and challenge of winning bets from the game will make the players addicted. These two thing seem to be the basics of a game.
Once, I was so addicted to the soccer video game that I spent a lot of time and money just enjoying the game. Definitely not because of the money, but there is entertainment and other stuff contained within the game itself.
I was hooked on many video games, from commodore and Nintendo... all Sony consoles, PC games... the list is long! We can make a difference between games where we can earn money and just have fun, but what is common is that we like to win in any game we play! Of course, winning all the time is not possible, and we can make another difference here, some people like more challenging games, some like easy and simple games! Game creators must satisfy all gamer's needs, and therefore we have so many games around! When it comes to gambling games only, many things can attract me... starting from interface and animation to promotion and bonuses, there are many things that can attract my attention, and I will simply give it a try! If a game is good I will play it, but after some time for sure I will change a game and I will look for other things, or I will simply go back to some games I played before! Taking a break from games and changing them from time to time is a good thing to do!
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July 09, 2021, 06:07:21 PM |
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Design and animation may be attract and appeal to some people, but I myself am often looking for something that can double the multiplier. gamble option, but if you talk about the gamble broadly, you'll definitely choose the one that's happening, like this month there are many major tournaments in e-sports. so I think it depends on the season and what's popular.
So sports betting attracts you because e-sports is part of sports betting. I guess the topic is regarding what kind of casino games attract gamblers. As a gambler myself I often look for games with minimalistic features. I don't like games with hundreds of things to understand and part of this is why I only play selective slots since I am not among the gamblers who like feature crowded slots or games in general. Dice is often times my most played game on the day and that's because I understand the concept, I know it's provably fair and it has no complicated results. Just bet under or over and roll it, simple as that.
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July 09, 2021, 06:07:43 PM |
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Many people love to play roguelike games. Usually these are games with graphics reminiscent of the 90s. And there is another type of games - incremental ones, some of which have no graphics at all, but at the same time they are very addictive to the players. Thus, it is obvious that even if we do not consider gambling, there is no direct correlation between beautiful graphics and the degree of player involvement. This means that most likely the most important element in the game is the gameplay, and beauty is in third place (convenient design is in second place).
Of course gameplay is the main criterion for player engagement. If we talk about old games such as games of the 2000s such as Heroes 3, Counter Strike, Need for Speed Porsche or Diablo II, the graphics was not very good there but players could spend all their free time for these games. Also a good confirmation of these words is a standard Windows game - Minesweeper, which has a huge number of fans.
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July 09, 2021, 08:58:58 PM |
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Many people love to play roguelike games. Usually these are games with graphics reminiscent of the 90s. And there is another type of games - incremental ones, some of which have no graphics at all, but at the same time they are very addictive to the players. Thus, it is obvious that even if we do not consider gambling, there is no direct correlation between beautiful graphics and the degree of player involvement. This means that most likely the most important element in the game is the gameplay, and beauty is in third place (convenient design is in second place).
I think that people who play older games are mostly doing so for fun, it's likely single player games and they enjoy it because it remembers them on their childhood. Getting such kind of players to gamble for money seems very hard. Its much easier to target the youngster who might have less money to spend but are a lot of players. But gambling for money is not allowed for minors, that is why many games go the way through cosmetics. Having the chance to use custom skins which are rare creats a huge demand for the skins. Most of the skins will have little to no value, but the extremely rare ones will be very valuable. And gambling with such items can be very profitable for companies. I can tell you my experience - initially it is done for fun, but then you get used to the game and try to achieve top results. I've played various games like Endless Frontier, Days byGone and usually it ended up with my smartphone playing these games at night (I used an autoclicker) to make the fastest progress.
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However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them. What do these games have to have for you?
There is one answer for this question: excitementThe strong feeling of passion to win more money that you have now, without hard work and spending a lot of time. The passion for easy life. People always trying to cheat reality and always choose the easiest way (even if it totally wrong). So because of that people play, played and will play such games, like poker, dice, slots and other. 3000 years of history of gambling confirm my thoughts.
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July 09, 2021, 09:48:47 PM |
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You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them. What do these games have to have for you?
What it boils down to is fun. If a service is providing entertainment then users will pay for it. Too many services focus on having the most features or advanced graphics and fall flat because of the lack of attention to the user experience. I know developers that are capable of creating great things, but they focus entirely on things that end users probably don't notice and definitely don't care about. I don't care if a game is in black in white and in 8-bit... If it's fun and I enjoy using it, it will be worth paying for. On the other hand, a game could have the best graphics I've ever seen in my life, but if it doesn't leave me with a fun experience I won't pay for it.
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July 09, 2021, 09:51:39 PM |
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However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them. What do these games have to have for you?
There is one answer for this question: excitementThe strong feeling of passion to win more money that you have now, without hard work and spending a lot of time. The passion for easy life. People always trying to cheat reality and always choose the easiest way (even if it totally wrong). So because of that people play, played and will play such games, like poker, dice, slots and other. 3000 years of history of gambling confirm my thoughts. Excitement + Aiming for money.Gambling industry wont last out for ages if these aims and motives in mind is absent.Gamblers do have these main qualities and that what makes these businesses profitable. Hooking up players into your site or make them stay would really be a big challenge as a gambling site owner.Yes, the games offered are typical one but retaining players is something your main or primary concern and this is where design and good user experience in the site would set in and those are one of the common factors that do commonly seen.
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You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them. What do these games have to have for you?
What it boils down to is fun. If a service is providing entertainment then users will pay for it. Entertainment this is not the most incentive for gambling. Read my post above. There a lot of things with a lot of entertainment, like biking, but they're not so popular as gambling. Maybe because when you riding a bike you know that you can't hit x15 and make 150 from 10 dollars (even that probability of such outcome is decreasing too fast) Excitement + Aiming for money. Gambling industry wont last out for ages if these aims and motives in mind is absent.Gamblers do have these main qualities and that what makes these businesses profitable.
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This is something that I haven't seen implemented in a casino/gambling website, but it most certainly works elsewhere. Gamification is often implemented in places of study, so as you progress through the course, you earn badges, and achievements. We already know how addicting it can be to collect achievements, because Xbox, and Playstation has been doing it for a long time now. I don't know why more gambling places don't implement a similar system. You could effectively convince the player to think they are winning, by rewarding them achievements, while they are losing money potentially causing them to keep that feel good factor, and gamble more than they would normally. It might not be entirely ethical, and I'm not saying that they should implement it, I'm just surprised there isn't more utilizing this.
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Excitement + Aiming for money. Gambling industry wont last out for ages if these aims and motives in mind is absent.Gamblers do have these main qualities and that what makes these businesses profitable.
I do agree on this, there will folks that will say that it's just for fun but hidden inside the aim to make money from it. That's not a secret anymore because every gambler aims to win such amounts as they gamble. There are even those fantasies that we have in our mind, betting with small amount and hitting the jackpot.
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there will folks that will say that it's just for fun but hidden inside the aim to make money from it.
Don't say that to those gambling for fun people. They actually don't really aim to win as they always saying. They have the thing on their mind that it's always ok to lose since they afford it without realizing how much they are losing now in total because of affording to lose and gambling was just for fun mindset. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) There are even those fantasies that we have in our mind, betting with small amount and hitting the jackpot.
Actually, this is totally me, especially when playing slots. That's why I always love those slots with lots of free spins. I've already managed to win over $200 with just a $0.2 bet several times thru free spins. Not a jackpot but a good reward out from a minimum bet.
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I think that what makes someone get hooked in gambling is probably the rush that the game gives to a person, for example, the game is a pseudo 50/50 kind of game and the rush of having a really close call is going to keep people from playing thinking that the next game is going to be a win.
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Since we are talking about what would it take for a game to hook or attract people, then we talk about gambling games here, as mentioned by the "perfectionists" on another thread. Casino's as far as my experience goes, cater to the monied people. The casino joints in my area tend to look luxurious, and "elite" that alone is already what hooks people, the idea that they belong to the elite. The games should equal that luxury also. Good tables, handsome and beautiful dealers, even the cards and the tokens and the chips are luxurious looking. So that is my two cents.
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