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January 25, 2024, 06:45:23 PM
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zcash, pirate chain, monero, prcy

What do you think will be the best and why? Is anyone of these also scams?
Best for what? Investment or Privacy be clear about it next time.

If you are looking for investment purposes then it should be Monero, because it has the potential to grow and is always paired with Bitcoin. Another benefit of investing in Morero is staking, it is not as easy anymore as it used to be when it got listed the first time on an exchange. Accumulating more whenever the market is in red will help anyone reach the goal of earning the staking reward.

If you are looking for complete privacy then Monero has proven it is the best. All other coins you have listed came after Monero and you can call it the father of privacy coin. A lot of users who are active in the forum use it to hide their Bitcoin transaction trace, which I would consider a is a good habit in the current environment we are living today.
Not sure if you read his title or you instantly forget what it says but there is a "privacy" word written on it. And this is what he wants to know. Monero and Zcash are more known compared to the other two coins on his list. But apart from being an investment asset, both coins must be created primarily as a currency.

And this is why they have an enhanced privacy feature. Each investors can go on their own. And it's up to them if they will invest only on one or two coins. If they invest in two coins, that second coin doesn't always need to be Bitcoin. Investing is also different from staking, but both of them are a great way to make a profit here in crypto.

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January 26, 2024, 08:25:50 AM
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And this is why they have an enhanced privacy feature. Each investors can go on their own. And it's up to them if they will invest only on one or two coins. If they invest in two coins, that second coin doesn't always need to be Bitcoin. Investing is also different from staking, but both of them are a great way to make a profit here in crypto.
Zcash is bitcoin+CoinJoin, It enhances your privacy, but it does not enhance it to the maximum extent, and you can obtain similar privacy if you use bitcoin+CoinJoin, so whoever wants to enhance your privacy, instead of investing in Zcash, which does not perform well, you can obtain similar privacy from investing in bitcoin and using any service that supports CoinJoin.

So whoever wants to invest, bitcoin + monero is much better.
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January 26, 2024, 08:40:30 AM
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And this is why they have an enhanced privacy feature. Each investors can go on their own. And it's up to them if they will invest only on one or two coins. If they invest in two coins, that second coin doesn't always need to be Bitcoin. Investing is also different from staking, but both of them are a great way to make a profit here in crypto.
Zcash is bitcoin+CoinJoin, It enhances your privacy, but it does not enhance it to the maximum extent, and you can obtain similar privacy if you use bitcoin+CoinJoin, so whoever wants to enhance your privacy, instead of investing in Zcash, which does not perform well, you can obtain similar privacy from investing in bitcoin and using any service that supports CoinJoin.

So whoever wants to invest, bitcoin + monero is much better.

Dash is the coinjoin one. Shielded Zcash transactions are encrypted using zkSNARKS. Privacy would be superior to Monero if all transactions were shielded but they’re only a small percentage. Monero is quick to adapt and make improvements but it is not completely untraceable in its current form. Blockchain analysis companies can still track payments to an extent but it involves a lot more guesswork than tracing BTC. https://news.bitcoin.com/moonstone-research-study-etches-doubts-on-moneros-privacy-crypto-community-reacts/
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January 26, 2024, 01:43:50 PM
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I thought we were talking about privacy, coinjoin was lost long ago as its issue is that w/e amount goes in comes out the same amount that why we went to torandocash, coinjoin is not too hard to figure out. Dash, Zcash, Bitcoin arrr absolutely NOT privacy coins because they do not have Privacy by DEFAULT, If the chain does not have PBD its just an illusion of privacy with a checkbox. a good coin privacy protects you by default with no compromising transparent addresses without your CONSENT.

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January 28, 2024, 03:11:53 PM
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This is the only interview I can find on prcy and the 32 ring monero tech upgrade https://odysee.com/@PirateLootz:8/PrivacyCoin:c
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January 29, 2024, 11:25:45 AM
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Zcash is bitcoin+CoinJoin, It enhances your privacy, but it does not enhance it to the maximum extent, and you can obtain similar privacy if you use bitcoin+CoinJoin, so whoever wants to enhance your privacy, instead of investing in Zcash, which does not perform well, you can obtain similar privacy from investing in bitcoin and using any service that supports CoinJoin.

So whoever wants to invest, bitcoin + monero is much better.

You're saying that Zero Knowledge Proofs are the same as CoinJoin? It doesn't make any sense. I think you mean DASH is bitcoin+CoinJoin. It was never a real privacy coin, especially when CoinJoin isn't enforced by default. Zcash may have an innovative approach to privacy, but many claim it is already compromised. I'm not surprised about that when there's a company behind the development of ZEC. Companies strictly abide by government regulations. Only community-driven cryptocurrencies are worth it.

I guess that's why no other competitor has been able to outmatch Monero. We need true privacy coins to help fight against government surveillance and censorship. Hopefully, new privacy-oriented projects will arise giving us more options to choose from. As long as privacy and freedom wins, nothing else matters. Smiley

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January 29, 2024, 03:46:24 PM
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Zcash is bitcoin+CoinJoin, It enhances your privacy, but it does not enhance it to the maximum extent, and you can obtain similar privacy if you use bitcoin+CoinJoin, so whoever wants to enhance your privacy, instead of investing in Zcash, which does not perform well, you can obtain similar privacy from investing in bitcoin and using any service that supports CoinJoin.

So whoever wants to invest, bitcoin + monero is much better.

You're saying that Zero Knowledge Proofs are the same as CoinJoin? It doesn't make any sense. I think you mean DASH is bitcoin+CoinJoin. It was never a real privacy coin, especially when CoinJoin isn't enforced by default. Zcash may have an innovative approach to privacy, but many claim it is already compromised. I'm not surprised about that when there's a company behind the development of ZEC. Companies strictly abide by government regulations. Only community-driven cryptocurrencies are worth it.

I guess that's why no other competitor has been able to outmatch Monero. We need true privacy coins to help fight against government surveillance and censorship. Hopefully, new privacy-oriented projects will arise giving us more options to choose from. As long as privacy and freedom wins, nothing else matters. Smiley


Well said, LISTEN UP!! you noobz. IF IT AINT PRIVATE BY DEFAULT IT AINT A PRIVACY COIN!!!!!!!    PIRATE CHIAN !!!!!!!!   AND MONERO  arrr the only 2 around aside from forks of monero
...and now Pirate is on Qortal,  Pirate in on 2 atomic swap chains... do your research

.... also Qortal is deving reticulum into its core..  because thats a goal for them...  not stupid pictures nfts   
with pirate already in it...  I look forward to our future if most you guys can get you head out the defi a55
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January 29, 2024, 05:21:16 PM
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As for me I don't know any of those projects except monero, and I can't compare monero with them for now. Zcash = $22.80 and Pirate = $0.234 and Monero = $165.76 and finally PRivaCY = $0.009388 and the above prices you can see that Monero is the highest among all. And Monero is more legit then to the others tokens. I have not even heard the others before.

And from the links I provided all the tokens are seeing more promising ones but we don't really trust shitcoins because they can disappear at anytime. And if you like to invest in any of them then I will advise your to invest in Monero and for now I don't trust the rest.

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As for me I don't know any of those projects except monero, and I can't compare monero with them for now. Zcash = $22.80 and Pirate = $0.234 and Monero = $165.76 and finally PRivaCY = $0.009388 and the above prices you can see that Monero is the highest among all. And Monero is more legit then to the others tokens. I have not even heard the others before.

And from the links I provided all the tokens are seeing more promising ones but we don't really trust shitcoins because they can disappear at anytime. And if you like to invest in any of them then I will advise your to invest in Monero and for now I don't trust the rest.

ROFL, whats price gotta do with anything, monero has been around for over 10 years possibly now that why it has a large netwrok and mature price, but if you have ever gone to a monerotopia conference like I have in NYC, you would know they arrr not what they used to be as they speak about tokens, masternodes, equity scams, and so much stuff I was really really dissapointed....

If you attend pirate talk circle they talkin about stuff like reticulum and lora nodes to not need ISP's for simple communications. but you would not know that cause all you know is monero rite ?
ip-less technology is the future... I rather focus on the technology and not the price, when pirate is more than monero I will come back and questions you...   I wont forget as monero is slowly moving to pirate zk technology.... because we all know they HAVE to,  further more Prcy tech is elite, price is crap due to premine but that done mean the tech is any less... 32 + 1 rings... The original monero people arrr no longer their as far as im concerned..  whomever they arrr
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February 01, 2024, 11:21:49 AM
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ROFL, whats price gotta do with anything, monero has been around for over 10 years possibly now that why it has a large netwrok and mature price, but if you have ever gone to a monerotopia conference like I have in NYC, you would know they arrr not what they used to be as they speak about tokens, masternodes, equity scams, and so much stuff I was really really dissapointed....

If you attend pirate talk circle they talkin about stuff like reticulum and lora nodes to not need ISP's for simple communications. but you would not know that cause all you know is monero rite ?
ip-less technology is the future... I rather focus on the technology and not the price, when pirate is more than monero I will come back and questions you...   I wont forget as monero is slowly moving to pirate zk technology.... because we all know they HAVE to,  further more Prcy tech is elite, price is crap due to premine but that done mean the tech is any less... 32 + 1 rings... The original monero people arrr no longer their as far as im concerned..  whomever they arrr

The tech used by a coin is all that matters. Not the price. Monero not only has the best privacy tech, but it's also the most valuable. It could've gone higher in price if it wasn't because of de-listings from centralized exchanges. The OP forgot to mention privacy coins using Mimblewimble such as GRIN and BEAM. They are also worth considering.

The thing about privacy coins is that they often lack merchant acceptance compared to their transparent counterparts (BTC, LTC, etc). Not to mention, it's getting more difficult to cash them out into your local Fiat currency. At least, there are some P2P exchanges that allow you to sell privacy coins without KYC. AgoraDesk is one of them. With privacy coins facing an uncertain future, I wonder if XMR will become our only option?   Smiley

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