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July 08, 2021, 09:54:13 AM
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Hey guys, I was thinking to start a small BTC and Zcash mining business in Germany at a cost of 0.16 EUR kWh for passive income. I used a calculation for a Zcash Crypto Mining Rig with 8x NVIDIA GTX 1080 and I was a little bit suprised by the profitability. This is the calculation: https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec?HashingPower=256.32&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=2400&CostPerkWh=0.19&MiningPoolFee=1

Is mining Zcash really that profitable??

Here is the picture of the calculation:

https://i.imgur.com/v18cg9t.jpeg
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July 08, 2021, 10:56:38 PM
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No.

ZEC Zcash is mined by ASIC not gpu. 

A 1080 will get around 0.5Khs so 8 would be 4Khs or about $0.25 per day for all 8 cards…and about $4+ in power costs….so you will only lose just under $4 a day.

Neither BTC or  ZEC are profitable or reasonably mineable on gpu.  A single old outdated Zcash asic does around 14khs on about 350w of power.

That calculator is terribly out of date. 
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July 09, 2021, 01:29:58 AM
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You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh Huh OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this Wink dig just a little bit deeper Wink

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators Smiley
MY Post from 2017 is HERE

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information Smiley
Updated Info 2021;)

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July 09, 2021, 03:09:34 AM
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you should use more reputable website to calculate your mining cost. whattomine is usually the go to place for online mining calculator. i don't know why you use cryptcompare instead of whattomine.
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July 14, 2021, 01:39:30 PM
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You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh Huh OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this Wink dig just a little bit deeper Wink

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators Smiley
MY Post from 2017 is HERE

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information Smiley
Updated Info 2021;)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.
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July 14, 2021, 02:27:03 PM
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You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh Huh OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this Wink dig just a little bit deeper Wink

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators Smiley
MY Post from 2017 is HERE

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information Smiley
Updated Info 2021;)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.

First where you get 0,16€ for the kWh in germany? Is not possible.
Second 0,16€ is to much when we go in the real bear market like the last 3 years. You need under 0,05€ to get profit in bear market -> not possible because the EEG only costs 0,065€.

Think green and buy an enerkite to produce your own electricity  Grin
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July 16, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
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You put some number in a online calculator , and based on that what you saw there, you think its worth to start a mining business to mine zcash and BTC with GPU ? with a electricity price of 0.16 EUR kWh Huh OMG ...
Please do a little bit more research on this Wink dig just a little bit deeper Wink

First , please read my post from 2017 , there is a lot of useful information there , especially about mining calculators Smiley
MY Post from 2017 is HERE

After you read that few line there , there is another good reading for you from 2021 , with some updated information Smiley
Updated Info 2021;)

Thank you! Appreciate your post. I was just thinking about it, I already did my own calculations and worst case scenario analysis. This showed me that BTC mining with ASICs is not profitable in Germany right now, only under perfect conditions, meaning no ASICs are breaking, no tremendeous rise in difficulty and a huge rise in the price of BTC. Otherwise my ROI would be at around 410 days, which is a lot actually if you think that your business will not be profitable the first 1-2 years.

First where you get 0,16€ for the kWh in germany? Is not possible.
Second 0,16€ is to much when we go in the real bear market like the last 3 years. You need under 0,05€ to get profit in bear market -> not possible because the EEG only costs 0,065€.

Think green and buy an enerkite to produce your own electricity  Grin

It is possible if you have access to industry prices. My friend has several biogas plants and he gets 0.16 EUR kWh from his provider.
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