Could this be true about covid-19 killer vaccine

[Wakate]

The rate at which vaccinated people are dieing these days is alarming and an urgent review need to be taken to prevent further escalation. “It’s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation USA yesterday. “The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said. “It is the antibodies produced by the virus that enable an infection to become stronger,” he said in an interview with Pierre Barnérias of Hold-Up Media earlier this month.

A video published last week on YouTube uses data from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington to illustrate the spikes in deaths in numerous countries across the globe after the introduction of COVID vaccination, confirming Montagnier’s observation.
Could all these be true?
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/nobel-prize-winner-mass-covid-vaccination-an-unacceptable-mistake-that-is-creating-the-variants

[jackg]

Probably wants to just stay in the headlines. They were quoted in April 2020 saying the virus came from a lab rather than being zoological - seems weird they've somehow managed to know so much on this virus but haven't been tasked with making a vaccine...

Also he's working in a Chinese university apparently? I wouldn't rate how factual his statements are since that's the country that failed to contain the virus and probably intentionally let it spread - they might just be back to trying to do that.

[Invokergods19]

  As I observed in my country many nitezins who already take the vaccine some of them are die due of their Body can not accept the dosage of the Vaccine but the other are still living normal maybe their immune system can fight the dosage of the vaccine that's why many nitezins say that Vaccine are harmful so they did not take the vaccine and they just observed the other results, some of them say that Vaccine are Good to us to help fight back the virus

[NeuroticFish]

The rate at which vaccinated people are dieing these days is alarming

The deaths by COVID19 were at alarming rate. In certain countries they had difficulties even handling properly the dead. Of course, it depends on each country's medical system how well it works. The numbers are between 0.05% and 19.49% (!!!) of the infected.

Now let's compare with the vaccine.
From what I know, the number of deaths caused by vaccine is under 1%(*) and the number of deaths of people infected after the vaccine is again under 1% (I've read also 0.1% in certain countries).

Of course, none of the numbers are accurate, there's clearly under reporting and over reporting here and there, but the scale of the difference is big. The problem is that news want sensational and now they have news about each and every dead person related to vaccine, while the (still happening!) new dead from COVID19 are no longer interesting and no longer in the news.

I don't say the vaccines are "wow so good". There may be long term effects we may see in 5 or 10 years only. Even the fact they are arguing a 3rd dose may or may not be needed is an image on how small is the amount of knowledge and how big is their greed.
But you reading only the sensational news will make you have an incorrect view of the reality. So please search/research more, read about the actual numbers and compare. For now the numbers tell that those who took the vaccine seem to be on a safer side than those who didn't.

Also, if you don't want to take the vaccine, it's fine, it's your choice. But you should thank those who took it, since they help human kind by reducing the chances the virus get to spread more.
On the other hand you are scaring them off. So... you are working against your own interest.


(*) I'm not sure about this number, I've seen somewhere something like 0.61% though.


PS. This topic may be more appropriate for P&S

[Gozie51]

The issue of recent death maybe from the new variant of covid-19 because I read there are new wave variant that is more deadly as the virus mutates itself in human body. This new variant will also take some time to tackled while the vaccination is still going on. For those dying maybe those that are under severe complications but generally I have heard people complaining and criticizing the side effects of the vaccine.

[sapnu]

For me, it is quite controversial that a vaccine was made for a virus that appeared a year ago. There are a lot lf illness out there that has no vaccine up until now like HIV and Dengue. The logic is there already and you should just carefully analyze it. If there's no vaccine for such ailments, then for something new it should appear quite impossible already. It can be just a cover up to remove the fear of the people at some point and make them bring back their confidence on going outside without the fear of getting the virus. Nevertheless, we should respect everyone's opinion on whether they will get the vaccine or not, let us respect their decisions behind that.

[Cnut237]

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

This is a breathtakingly stupid statement, which reveals a lack of even the most rudimentary grasp of science and how mutations arise naturally from copying errors.


When I open the link you provide, there is a disclaimer at the top of the page:

Note to readers, added May 27, 2021: While LifeSiteNews has only reported what Montagnier has said, other scientists have rejected, in the strongest terms, his thesis that vaccines are causing dangerous variants. Former Pfizer vice president Dr. Michael Yeadon has said, “There is no evidence at all that vaccination is leading or will lead to ‘dangerous variants,’”

The rate at which vaccinated people are dieing these days is alarming and an urgent review need to be taken to prevent further escalation.

Again, it's utter stupidity to make such a statement that is in complete opposition to the facts. And by facts I mean large, publicly available datasets from around the world. Not some ranting YouTube charlatan or snake-oil salesman. Do you have any basis for making this statement? Southern Water has just been fined £90 million for knowingly dumping vast quantities of raw sewage into the environment. You should be thankful that on the web you can do it free of penalty.

Take a look at the charts below for the UK and the US.

First, vaccinations in both nations started to take off around the beginning of this year, and have now reached a high level.


Now let's take the second and third charts together.
The difference in case numbers is that the UK has fully opened up now, and is experiencing a huge outbreak of the 'delta' variant, whilst the US remains relatively unscathed...

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

... but death rates remain extremely low in both nations. The US has low cases numbers and low death rate. The UK has high case numbers and low death rate. You will (or probably won't) note that death rates in the wave prior to widespread vaccination were high in both nations.


I'd ask you to consider this, or even look at the source data, and then form your own conclusions... but there's no point doing that, because anti-vaxxers approach this subject with their own unshakeable fact-free conclusions, and are immune to evidence.

[tvbcof]

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

This is a breathtakingly stupid statement, which reveals a lack of even the most rudimentary grasp of science and how mutations arise naturally from copying errors.

Actually, exactly the opposite happens to be true.  Evolutionary pressures on pathogens applied by vaccines is a well known and accepted phenomenon.  This is one of the main reasons for what is known as 'vaccine failure'.

  https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

[franky1]

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

This is a breathtakingly stupid statement, which reveals a lack of even the most rudimentary grasp of science and how mutations arise naturally from copying errors.

Actually, exactly the opposite happens to be true.  Evolutionary pressures on pathogens applied by vaccines is a well known and accepted phenomenon.  This is one of the main reasons for what is known as 'vaccine failure'.

  https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

covid vaccine is based on the alpha strain
and ill emphasise this only the alpha strain

if there was a vaccine where the spike was more generic and less specific.. with lots of different identifiers of lots of different variants.
in other words the vile/syringe fluid had 50 different possible tweaks..
then it would be more super effective.. and that would pressure the virus to super mutate outside the minor tweaks and only replicate successfully if the virus had a major tweak that makes it novel

but these vaccines dont do that. they use the existing primary strain..
thus. virus mutations in 'natural immunity' spread of the unvaxxed is 4 generations ahead of vaccines

yep its actually the unvaxxed causing more spread and more mutations

[tvbcof]

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”

This is a breathtakingly stupid statement, which reveals a lack of even the most rudimentary grasp of science and how mutations arise naturally from copying errors.

Actually, exactly the opposite happens to be true.  Evolutionary pressures on pathogens applied by vaccines is a well known and accepted phenomenon.  This is one of the main reasons for what is known as 'vaccine failure'.

  https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/

covid vaccine is based on the alpha strain

   <snip - made up stuff franky1 thinks will help trick people.  No links of course>

yep its actually the unvaxxed causing more spread and more mutations

The epidemiology curve looked just like any other seasonal cold for a year that it took to pump out vials of the gene therapy.  Curve spiked early then diminished on it's way to zero.  No 'variants' of any consequence over and above what is normal for any other coronavirus.

Enter the vaccine.  Suddenly there are 'variants' out the wahzoo exactly as many of us have predicted.

For my part, I actually doubt that the accelerated evolution via vaccine pressures had much to do with the 'variants'.  What these 'variants' seem to be are inconsequential tiny changes as would be expected of many classes of virus, but there is a huge need for an excuse about why the so-called 'vaccine' doesn't seem to be doing shit and is in fact killing and maiming people at an alarming rate.  So, they just say 'variants' knowing that nobody understands it and the propagandists like those writing fakey1's talking points can make hay with it.

Of course the 'variants' are also useful as an excuse to roll into a periodic injection scheme with 'boosters'.  Even if/when variants actually are one of the fallouts of feeble attempts to take over from the natural human immune system ('vaccines'), they are exactly what Big Pharma needs/wants for their sales.

[cabron]

The disclaimer is just not making sense.

Just as flu which up to this day there is no pure medicine for it. Afaik covid started with just a mild respiratory problem and then now it becomes very potent virus and its now mkde than that. Its here to stay which variants just pop out of nowhere.

It looks like every country has its own variant in the next years, India has it own and I read the news Cuba has its own too.

[arielbit]

do you really think SERIOUSLY that these MRNA vaccines will make you healthier? more like super human? REALLY? just look at those disgusting things sold at your favorite groceries and supermarkets for you to eat. you are gonna get so fucked up, you getting healthy(health independent) is "BAD FOR BUSINESS".

[Cnut237]

Evolutionary pressures on pathogens applied by vaccines is a well known and accepted phenomenon.

Sure. It would be weird if vaccines didn't apply selection pressure. But this doesn't give credence to the OP's statement that 'it is the vaccination that is creating the variants'. It is clearly not. Mutations arise naturally due to replication errors. Evolution proceeds through natural selection, which means some mutations thrive, others don't. Vaccines don't create variants. The number of variants (mutations) that arise is proportional to the number of instances of the virus in existence. If you reduce the number of particles of virus in existence, through vaccination, then you reduce the number of mutations. The delta variant that is causing so much trouble in the highly-vaccinated UK arose in India, where vaccination levels are very low.

Also (and I'm not saying you're doing this, I'm simply making the point) we can't argue that 'vaccines apply selection pressure to favour vaccine-resistant variants, therefore vaccines are bad'... for one thing it's a circular argument (vaccines lead to things that are resistant to vaccines, therefore vaccines are useless), and secondly it neglects the evidence in favour of vaccines... consider smallpox eradication as an example. Antibiotic resistance is a similar phenomenon - are antibiotics pointless?

The epidemiology curve looked just like any other seasonal cold for a year

Well, there is the massive number of hospitalisations and the 4 million dead to consider.

Curve spiked early then diminished on it's way to zero.  No 'variants' of any consequence over and above what is normal for any other coronavirus.

The curve diminished because of lockdowns and other preventative action, masks, social distancing, etc. As is quite evident from the second wave following directly after the ending of lockdowns. And this is all prior to the introduction of the vaccines.
The question of variants is less relevant in an unvaccinated population - whether people are catching the initial strain or a variant is immaterial if the effects are the same. Variants become important if a vaccine is designed to protect only against the initial strain. But also, obviously it takes high case numbers and time for variants to become established. It's not going to happen instantly at the beginning of the first wave.

For my part, I actually doubt that the accelerated evolution via vaccine pressures had much to do with the 'variants'.

Then we are in agreement.

there is a huge need for an excuse about why the so-called 'vaccine' doesn't seem to be doing shit and is in fact killing and maiming people at an alarming rate.

I've presented the data in the charts above. Your statement is without foundation.

they just say 'variants' knowing that nobody understands it and the propagandists like those writing fakey1's talking points can make hay with it.

Evolution through mutation and natural selection is a straightforward concept. It is not difficult to understand.

feeble attempts to take over from the natural human immune system ('vaccines')

Smallpox. Polio. Tetanus. Hepatitis. etc, etc.

they are exactly what Big Pharma needs/wants for their sales.

I'm sure plenty of pharmaceutical companies are making vast profits from vaccines. This is how the economy is designed. It's working as intended. No need for a massive global conspiracy to explain ordinary behaviour.

[arielbit]

Evolutionary pressures on pathogens applied by vaccines is a well known and accepted phenomenon.

Sure. It would be weird if vaccines didn't apply selection pressure. But this doesn't give credence to the OP's statement that 'it is the vaccination that is creating the variants'. It is clearly not. Mutations arise naturally due to replication errors. Evolution proceeds through natural selection, which means some mutations thrive, others don't. Vaccines don't create variants. The number of variants (mutations) that arise is proportional to the number of instances of the virus in existence. If you reduce the number of particles of virus in existence, through vaccination, then you reduce the number of mutations. The delta variant that is causing so much trouble in the highly-vaccinated UK arose in India, where vaccination levels are very low.

Also (and I'm not saying you're doing this, I'm simply making the point) we can't argue that 'vaccines apply selection pressure to favour vaccine-resistant variants, therefore vaccines are bad'... for one thing it's a circular argument (vaccines lead to things that are resistant to vaccines, therefore vaccines are useless), and secondly it neglects the evidence in favour of vaccines... consider smallpox eradication as an example. Antibiotic resistance is a similar phenomenon - are antibiotics pointless?

The epidemiology curve looked just like any other seasonal cold for a year

Well, there is the massive number of hospitalisations and the 4 million dead to consider.

Curve spiked early then diminished on it's way to zero.  No 'variants' of any consequence over and above what is normal for any other coronavirus.

The curve diminished because of lockdowns and other preventative action, masks, social distancing, etc. As is quite evident from the second wave following directly after the ending of lockdowns. And this is all prior to the introduction of the vaccines.
The question of variants is less relevant in an unvaccinated population - whether people are catching the initial strain or a variant is immaterial if the effects are the same. Variants become important if a vaccine is designed to protect only against the initial strain. But also, obviously it takes high case numbers and time for variants to become established. It's not going to happen instantly at the beginning of the first wave.

For my part, I actually doubt that the accelerated evolution via vaccine pressures had much to do with the 'variants'.

Then we are in agreement.

there is a huge need for an excuse about why the so-called 'vaccine' doesn't seem to be doing shit and is in fact killing and maiming people at an alarming rate.

I've presented the data in the charts above. Your statement is without foundation.

they just say 'variants' knowing that nobody understands it and the propagandists like those writing fakey1's talking points can make hay with it.

Evolution through mutation and natural selection is a straightforward concept. It is not difficult to understand.

feeble attempts to take over from the natural human immune system ('vaccines')

Smallpox. Polio. Tetanus. Hepatitis. etc, etc.

they are exactly what Big Pharma needs/wants for their sales.

I'm sure plenty of pharmaceutical companies are making vast profits from vaccines. This is how the economy is designed. It's working as intended. No need for a massive global conspiracy to explain ordinary behaviour.

you are a fucking pussy just like the rest of the headless chickens roaming around this forum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_conquest_of_the_Maya

these vastly outnumbered unvaxxed spaniards waged war on unvaxxed "sterile" mayans and won by being virus friendly spaniards. WE NEED MORE VIRUS IN OUR LIVES FOLKS.

i'm not team unvaxxed or team vaxxed. i'm team virus, if the vaccine will remove virus from my body then i will reject it.

eat your fermented chorizo raw goddammit! mmmmmmmmmmm.

Impact of Old World diseases
Europeans-introduced smallpox & devastated the indigenous populations of the Americas

Epidemics incidentally introduced by the Spanish included smallpox, measles and influenza. These diseases, together with typhus and yellow fever, had a major impact on Maya populations.[77] The Old World diseases brought with the Spanish and against which the indigenous New World peoples had no resistance were a deciding factor in the conquest; they decimated populations before battles were even fought.[78] It is estimated that 90% of the indigenous population had been eliminated by disease within the first century of European contact.[79]

A single soldier arriving in Mexico in 1520 was carrying smallpox and initiated the devastating plagues that swept through the native populations of the Americas.[80] Modern estimates of native population decline vary from 75% to 90% mortality. Maya written histories suggest that smallpox was rapidly transmitted throughout the Maya area the same year that it arrived in central Mexico. Among the most deadly diseases were the aforementioned smallpox, influenza, measles and a number of pulmonary diseases, including tuberculosis.[81] Modern knowledge of the impact of these diseases on populations with no prior exposure suggests that 33–50% of the population of the Maya highlands perished.[82]

These diseases swept through Yucatán in the 1520s and 1530s, with periodic recurrences throughout the 16th century. By the late 16th century, malaria had arrived in the region, and yellow fever was first reported in the mid-17th century. Mortality was high, with approximately 50% of the population of some Yucatec Maya settlements being wiped out.[81] Those areas of the peninsula that experience damper conditions became rapidly depopulated after the conquest with the introduction of malaria and other waterborne parasites.[7] The native population of the northeastern portion of the peninsula was almost completely eliminated within fifty years of the conquest.[59] Soconusco also suffered catastrophic population collapse, with an estimated 90–95% drop.[83]

In the south, conditions conducive to the spread of malaria existed throughout Petén and Belize.[59] In Tabasco the population of approximately 30,000 was reduced by an estimated 90%, with measles, smallpox, catarrhs, dysentery and fevers being the main culprits.[59] At the time of the fall of Nojpetén in 1697, there are estimated to have been 60,000 Maya living around Lake Petén Itzá, including a large number of refugees from other areas. It is estimated that 88% of them died during the first ten years of colonial rule owing to a combination of disease and war.[84]

[Magicalking]

We are still facing the after effect of covid-19. Many lives were lost, stock market crashed, economy was down, we were shut in our hikes for months. All because of some virus that did not have a cure Thankfully after months and months of research, scientists have developed a vaccine approved by WHO btw and some people with zero qualification in science and medicine want to trash talk the the efforts of good working men. The vaccine isn't killing any one, it is not creating variants, there is no evil conspiracy to turn humans to robots. Truly if you had a relative who had the virus barely hanging on for dear life then you would be more understanding. Mortality rate has reduced drastically, I can think back to when bodies were piled on the streets, hospitals full of patients and we had to volunteer to help because there wasn't enough staff. I'm getting angry as I type these words. There will be those that see a conspiracy even in Paradise

[arielbit]

We are still facing the after effect of covid-19. Many lives were lost, stock market crashed, economy was down, we were shut in our hikes for months. All because of some virus that did not have a cure Thankfully after months and months of research, scientists have developed a vaccine approved by WHO btw and some people with zero qualification in science and medicine want to trash talk the the efforts of good working men. The vaccine isn't killing any one, it is not creating variants, there is no evil conspiracy to turn humans to robots. Truly if you had a relative who had the virus barely hanging on for dear life then you would be more understanding. Mortality rate has reduced drastically, I can think back to when bodies were piled on the streets, hospitals full of patients and we had to volunteer to help because there wasn't enough staff. I'm getting angry as I type these words. There will be those that see a conspiracy even in Paradise

the unvaxxed 75 year old i knew had a stroke and not healthy living and walks like a weakling. covid19 come and go in 3-4 days like it was an ordinary cold no hospitalization required.

if bodies were piled on the streets..didn't see it from where i am, people are just complaining that anything that goes in the hospitals are being labeled as covid19 for profit. the flu disappeared, pneumonia is automatically called covid19.

there is also someone i talked to recently, a family member was labeled as pneumonia-covid19 but the papers were not released yet because the x-ray was a perfectly normal lungs.

ohh i wish you end up in that pile you are talking about.   

[Magicalking]

We are still facing the after effect of covid-19. Many lives were lost, stock market crashed, economy was down, we were shut in our hikes for months. All because of some virus that did not have a cure Thankfully after months and months of research, scientists have developed a vaccine approved by WHO btw and some people with zero qualification in science and medicine want to trash talk the the efforts of good working men. The vaccine isn't killing any one, it is not creating variants, there is no evil conspiracy to turn humans to robots. Truly if you had a relative who had the virus barely hanging on for dear life then you would be more understanding. Mortality rate has reduced drastically, I can think back to when bodies were piled on the streets, hospitals full of patients and we had to volunteer to help because there wasn't enough staff. I'm getting angry as I type these words. There will be those that see a conspiracy even in Paradise

the unvaxxed 75 year old i knew had a stroke and not healthy living and walks like a weakling. covid19 come and go in 3-4 days like it was an ordinary cold no hospitalization required.

if bodies were piled on the streets..didn't see it from where i am, people are just complaining that anything that goes in the hospitals are being labeled as covid19 for profit. the flu disappeared, pneumonia is automatically called covid19.

there is also someone i talked to recently, a family member was labeled as pneumonia-covid19 but the papers were not released yet because the x-ray was a perfectly normal lungs.

ohh i wish you end up in that pile you are talking about.   

The symptoms of covid are similar to pneumonia and because of how easily covid can be transmitted, tested patients are immediately quarantined. Wishing me death from your end because of our differences is very immature. And I now understand that the rank doesn't make the man, you are unworthy of the Legendary rank. You're probably one of those who were here before the merit system and had to do little or nothing to get merits.

[tvbcof]

We are still facing the after effect of covid-19. Many lives were lost, stock market crashed, economy was down, we were shut in our hikes for months. All because of some virus that did not have a cure Thankfully after months and months of research, scientists have developed a vaccine approved by WHO btw and some people with zero qualification in science and medicine want to trash talk the the efforts of good working men. The vaccine isn't killing any one, it is not creating variants, there is no evil conspiracy to turn humans to robots. Truly if you had a relative who had the virus barely hanging on for dear life then you would be more understanding. Mortality rate has reduced drastically, I can think back to when bodies were piled on the streets, hospitals full of patients and we had to volunteer to help because there wasn't enough staff. I'm getting angry as I type these words. There will be those that see a conspiracy even in Paradise

the unvaxxed 75 year old i knew had a stroke and not healthy living and walks like a weakling. covid19 come and go in 3-4 days like it was an ordinary cold no hospitalization required.

if bodies were piled on the streets..didn't see it from where i am, people are just complaining that anything that goes in the hospitals are being labeled as covid19 for profit. the flu disappeared, pneumonia is automatically called covid19.

there is also someone i talked to recently, a family member was labeled as pneumonia-covid19 but the papers were not released yet because the x-ray was a perfectly normal lungs.

ohh i wish you end up in that pile you are talking about.   

Even with all this obvious fraud (like in the U.S. where someone dies of massive head trauma in a motorcycle accident and is labeled 'covid19 death' because he had a positive test months before) the hucksters are still only claiming 4x10^6 out of a population of 7x10^9.  That ratio?  I punch up 0.0006.  That is such a tiny ratio, and the fraud is so global, that it is very easy to understand how the entire claimed 4 million 'covid deaths' could be fraudulent.

I do suspect that there was some cold virus going around (and it had some 'gain of function' engineered in to justify the spike protein coding injections pharma/intel had been playing around with) and some old people who were going to die from then next thing they got no matter what it was did die from it, but the disease itself was one of the least threatening things ever.  Hard to even detect.

From what I hear from whistle-blower nurses and morticians, everything changed with the vaccine roll-out and they actually have something to do after a year off.  Quite a lot actually.  Of course, exactly as I predicted over a year ago IIRC, the 'vaccine' kill shot deaths will be labeled 'covid-19', and later a new plandemic or 'variants' of the current one.

[arielbit]

We are still facing the after effect of covid-19. Many lives were lost, stock market crashed, economy was down, we were shut in our hikes for months. All because of some virus that did not have a cure Thankfully after months and months of research, scientists have developed a vaccine approved by WHO btw and some people with zero qualification in science and medicine want to trash talk the the efforts of good working men. The vaccine isn't killing any one, it is not creating variants, there is no evil conspiracy to turn humans to robots. Truly if you had a relative who had the virus barely hanging on for dear life then you would be more understanding. Mortality rate has reduced drastically, I can think back to when bodies were piled on the streets, hospitals full of patients and we had to volunteer to help because there wasn't enough staff. I'm getting angry as I type these words. There will be those that see a conspiracy even in Paradise

the unvaxxed 75 year old i knew had a stroke and not healthy living and walks like a weakling. covid19 come and go in 3-4 days like it was an ordinary cold no hospitalization required.

if bodies were piled on the streets..didn't see it from where i am, people are just complaining that anything that goes in the hospitals are being labeled as covid19 for profit. the flu disappeared, pneumonia is automatically called covid19.

there is also someone i talked to recently, a family member was labeled as pneumonia-covid19 but the papers were not released yet because the x-ray was a perfectly normal lungs.

ohh i wish you end up in that pile you are talking about.    

The symptoms of covid are similar to pneumonia and because of how easily covid can be transmitted, tested patients are immediately quarantined. Wishing me death from your end because of our differences is very immature. And I now understand that the rank doesn't make the man, you are unworthy of the Legendary rank. You're probably one of those who were here before the merit system and had to do little or nothing to get merits.

Pneumonia is an infection that inflames the air sacs in one or both lungs. The air sacs may fill with fluid or pus (purulent material)...

it is not a disease but the state of the lungs by the bad bacteria taking over the organ during cytokine storm or immune system overreacting or not working. idiot, shove yourself to that pile. now! in-pronto!

you die because of lack of air, imagine not breathing for a few minutes? although it goes away on its own, the time where you lose oxygen is what kills.

hundreds of years ago people just use herbs to make their body keep on breathing until it goes away.

if i waterboard you, your lungs will be filled with fluids therefore pneumonia therefore covid19 LOL.