Biteller.com Cash-Back Betting Rewards - Feedback / Suggestions needed

[BitellerRewards]

Hello BitcoinTalk.org Community members  

We recently launched (in open beta) a cash-back / crypto-back rewards platform for the igaming market and would love to get some feedback from you!

Just like every other affiliate website, we get a commission from our partners when one of our users sets up a new wagering account using our affiliate link and begins placing wagers. If that user generates a commission we get paid … but instead of keeping all the money like the old school affiliate networks of yester-year - we share it with you!

We feel this segment of the industry is due for a little disruption!  It doesnt take too much searching (many are publicly traded) to see how much some of these other affiliate networks make on the backs of their referrals ... we think its time to pay it forward (or back ) and make the relationship more of a win-win.

We initially launched into the fiat based sportsbooks and casinos and we are now making a big push into the crypto gambling space.  And that's why we’re here … we would love to get feedback on a few things we are working on moving forward:

-  We’re adding new partners to the platform every week but are there websites you guys are using right now that you can suggest we add to the list of “Partners Coming Soon”?

https://biteller.com/category/All+Casino+and+Sportsbook+Partners

-  We currently pay our users monthly rewards with the currency we are paid by the partner … so if a partner pays us in USD we reward the user with fiat.  These USD rewards are paid through paypal but are there other wallets we should be looking at to make these fiat payments?  When it comes to crypto partners most of our commission payments are in BTC but we have partners that will be paying with whatever crypto the user plays with on their platform … any issues with us converting the crypto commission payments to BTC or should we be looking at implementing a payment system to rewards users based on whatever cryptocurrency we're paid with?

-  We're looking to build a pretty extensive blog strategy around different trading ideas that utilize the Biteller rewards and there has been chatter between a few active users that the Biteller rewards could be a useful tool for arbitrage traders.  Arb traders that use sportbooks like Pinnacle and other partners would probably see some value in gaining 12.5% cash back (or more!) on losses we would think!  We assume any partner that has a negative carryover would complicate things slightly but any useful trading ideas you see for arbing (as well as outside of arbing)?  Could cash back rewards be useful for completing bonus rollovers?  We would love to generate some valuable blog content around some trading ideas as we think the Biteller rewards platform could become a lucrative tool for the sportbetting 'trading' community

-  Many crypto gambling partners pay commissions to Biteller based on a portion of the house edge and regardless of whether the player wins or loses the wager.  Enterprising Biteller users have been utilizing the rewards to reduce the house edge at these partner sites  We will be publishing some blog articles with the ability for users to reduce the house edge using the Biteller rewards platform .. stay tuned for that!

And here is a quick description of how the system works:

https://biteller.com/help/how-it-works

We would love to hear from you regarding any other comments, ideas and suggestions

Thanks in advance!

The Biteller Team

[ryzaadit]

Do you already have some user or customer getting paid by the cashback? IMO, this is a good idea cause most of us as the referred never get any % from the upline maybe we can get If we know him as a friend. But, If you just register under the link some random person 100% will going to them. I try to check one by one review, you should put explanation review for the description casino and try to give some advantage & disadvantage your own version. I check, just like "Restristec country" you should at least try the casino and put that based your experience play.

[LimLims]

There are so many questions that are coming to mind.
- Is the sites limited here or you guys keep on adding new sites?
- What if someone has already signed up in all sites previously?
- Any feedbacks or reviews or any testimonials that prove that you guys are legit.
Waiting to hear from you admin.

[SFR10]

-  We’re adding new partners to the platform every week

Not sure if the appropriate term is to call them a "partner" but regardless of that, hopefully, this doesn't turn out to be one of those platforms that literally adds every other platform that offers such things...
^{- You might want to pay "more" attention before adding more or keeping those that you already have [I'm not familiar with all of them but the first one in your "coming soon" list has a very bad reputation].}

any issues with us converting the crypto commission payments to BTC or should we be looking at implementing a payment system to rewards users based on whatever cryptocurrency we're paid with?

As long as you're transparent enough, there shouldn't be any issues with the conversion part and I'd suggest giving users both of the above options.

[avikz]

It's indeed great for the regular gamblers. Usually crypto casinos offer around 5 - 10% affiliate income to the referring party. So even if you share 80% of the referral income to the player and keep 20% with you, it's a win win situation for both. However, please ensure that you enter into a legal contract with the crypto casinos otherwise, some casinos may block you for generating too much referral income and citing security risk. Especially if any of your references win the jackpot or make big gains. So a legal contract is always preferred to avoid any unforeseen issues. Good initiative where both parties will be benefited.

[peter0425]

Welcome to the forum Guys , but what I observe from the listed site that only few that has been advertised or promote in this forum , Any plans of adding more ?

[BitellerRewards]

Do you already have some user or customer getting paid by the cashback? IMO, this is a good idea cause most of us as the referred never get any % from the upline maybe we can get If we know him as a friend. But, If you just register under the link some random person 100% will going to them. I try to check one by one review, you should put explanation review for the description casino and try to give some advantage & disadvantage your own version. I check, just like "Restristec country" you should at least try the casino and put that based your experience play.

Thanks for the feedback!

Yes we have users making cash back rewards . Check out our blog post from FEB 2021

https://biteller.com/blog/posts/it-s-like-xmas-biteller-users-making-bank

Thanks for the feedback on our reviews ... we are aware that we need to build out our reviews to be more comprehensive and we are working on that right now

Biteller.com

[BitellerRewards]

Hi LimLims!  Thanks for sending the note!

- Is the sites limited here or you guys keep on adding new sites?

We are working on adding new sites to the platform all the time.  Please check out this listing of websites coming soon to our platform.  You just need to scroll down a little to see the ones 'coming soon'

https://biteller.com/category/All+Casino+and+Sportsbook+Partners

- What if someone has already signed up in all sites previously?

Unfortunately this is for new accounts only as we need to be the original referral link for that new user.

- Any feedbacks or reviews or any testimonials that prove that you guys are legit.

We are building out a user review area of the website but we're hoping to prove our worth with the community here to show we are legit

[Beparanf]

What if I have already an existing account to one of your partner casino. Can I create again another using your affiliate link knowing that most casino has a strict rules against multiple account. I really want your cash back program offer. I want to confirm this first before I try to use it.

[BitellerRewards]

-  We’re adding new partners to the platform every week

Not sure if the appropriate term is to call them a "partner" but regardless of that, hopefully, this doesn't turn out to be one of those platforms that literally adds every other platform that offers such things...
^{- You might want to pay "more" attention before adding more or keeping those that you already have [I'm not familiar with all of them but the first one in your "coming soon" list has a very bad reputation].}

any issues with us converting the crypto commission payments to BTC or should we be looking at implementing a payment system to rewards users based on whatever cryptocurrency we're paid with?

As long as you're transparent enough, there shouldn't be any issues with the conversion part and I'd suggest giving users both of the above options.

Thanks for the feedback! 

We wanted to be pretty accommodating with the websites that came on the platform as many were eager to get involved ... we also tried to base it on some of the feedback we had seen on here ... for example we had 1xbit on the Biteller platform but removed them after seeing the feedback on Bitcoin talk ... we are very open to taking any suggestions as to who we should add but also (and more importantly) who we should remove due to a poor reputation.

Appreciate the comments!

Biteller.com

[BitellerRewards]

It's indeed great for the regular gamblers. Usually crypto casinos offer around 5 - 10% affiliate income to the referring party. So even if you share 80% of the referral income to the player and keep 20% with you, it's a win win situation for both. However, please ensure that you enter into a legal contract with the crypto casinos otherwise, some casinos may block you for generating too much referral income and citing security risk. Especially if any of your references win the jackpot or make big gains. So a legal contract is always preferred to avoid any unforeseen issues. Good initiative where both parties will be benefited.

We have discussed the potential of a 'VIP' level of cash back to those Biteller users that bring in a higher level of commission. If a user betting action is generating a great deal of commission revenue for us then a split similar to what you mention above is totally realistic 

[BitellerRewards]

What if I have already an existing account to one of your partner casino. Can I create again another using your affiliate link knowing that most casino has a strict rules against multiple account. I really want your cash back program offer. I want to confirm this first before I try to use it.

Unfortunately this is for new accounts only.  But this might be a good opportunity to sign up with another casino to try it out and get some cash back rewards!

Thanks!
Biteller.com

[john_nautica]

This is really great marketing, I think this is my first time seeing a site wherein they don't keep the affiliate reward but share it to the users who register through their affiliate link, so in other words it's a win-win. I was just wondering how would you be able to track for each users who register and wager through your link do we have a unique link for every user and where we could see the information how much we would be the reward?

[BitellerRewards]

This is really great marketing, I think this is my first time seeing a site wherein they don't keep the affiliate reward but share it to the users who register through their affiliate link, so in other words it's a win-win. I was just wondering how would you be able to track for each users who register and wager through your link do we have a unique link for every user and where we could see the information how much we would be the reward?

Thanks for the kind words!

And yes ... there are two ways in which we report on the commission generated by our users .... either by way of a username we can report on in the affiliate backend or by way of that user securing a unique link that we can report on in the affiliate back end.  Each partner card on Biteller shows you which type of reporting partner it is ... either a personalized cash back link OR a manually linked partner.

Here's a quick break down on how it looks and works:

https://biteller.com/help/how-it-works

We have some specific reporting needs so the backend affiliate program of the partner needs to be able to allow us to report properly. 

Thanks!
Biteller

[Chikito]

Welcome to the forum.

First, you must read the forum rules because you make multiple posts in a row (#7,8,10,11,12). you have to use the quote button on 1 reply.


is there only the casino listed that will get the reward? Better if you adding another casino to get more interested users.

The program seems to absorb me if you still follow up with the old registered user to joining the reward such as Beparanf suggestion.

is that phone number really Important for us (maybe to withdrawing proof and etc)? and how much minimum to withdrawing bitcoin and PayPal?

[nakamura12]

Welcome to the bitcointalk forum.

Is this somr kind of a site that provide reviews but with a cashback?. I think I came across a site like this before where the applicable accounts must be a new one/neely created. I checked the site and I think you are adding more sites but make sure to complete the review. I have seen there is a gambling site that will be added soon but there is an accusations before so, better include it there.

[AhmadM]

This is a good strategy in order luring people to register under your affiliate link by straight forward giving some percentages of what you earn, I knew btcgosu sometimes also giving back to its community through contests, giveaways, or exclusive welcome bonuses.

Looks like the platform isn't limited to crypto casinos only, there are some casinos that are unfamiliar to me which high likely fiat-based casinos. Also, try to add more details in your review such as which currencies that casinos accept or how many minimum deposits/withdrawals, and kindly remove phone number requirement in the registration form.

[TimeTeller]

This is a good strategy in order luring people to register under your affiliate link by straight forward giving some percentages of what you earn, I knew btcgosu sometimes also giving back to its community through contests, giveaways, or exclusive welcome bonuses.

Looks like the platform isn't limited to crypto casinos only, there are some casinos that are unfamiliar to me which high likely fiat-based casinos. Also, try to add more details in your review such as which currencies that casinos accept or how many minimum deposits/withdrawals, and kindly remove phone number requirement in the registration form.

I do agree that this is nice strategy to attract players to use their affiliate link for cash back incentives.
Because most review sites don't have that kind of perks.
However, when I see the name biteller.com, I remember betller.io - a pvp betting site who has thread also in this forum.
Are you in any way, connected also with this pvp betting site? The names sound so similar.

[Chikito]

However, when I see the name biteller.com, I remember betller.io - a pvp betting site who has thread also in this forum.
Are you in any way, connected also with this pvp betting site? The names sound so similar.

Yes Look similar, but not exactly the same, biteller.com was created in 2012 while betller.io in 2019, In that period biteller domain is still for sale until 2021.

Name look the same cause have word "bet" and "teller", I think has different owner with isn't connected each other. Same as another website bitsler, bitteller (Bitcoin ATM) and etc.

[michellee]

Welcome to the forum.

I tried to register to see what was inside the dashboard, but I need to write my phone number, which I do not want. Can you change it into Anonymous like what in the First and Last Name? I know we can use the disposable phone number, but I still do not prefer it as it will be better if that column stays using Anonymous.

Maybe you can split the casino name into a different folder. I mean, if you review or add the casino from bitcointalk, you can use the folder bitcointalk and the other casino you found on the internet will be on the other folder. People will see that and can visit bitcointalk to see that the casino has the ANN thread to contact the support system from each casino and not contact you if they have trouble from the casino.