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August 05, 2021, 02:33:33 PM
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We had two great games in the semi finals today.

It wasn't very surprising to see USA destroying Australia 97-78. USA are just too strong against every club in this tournament. I liked Durant's performance really much again. He just doesn't give a break.  Grin

When it comes to France - Slovenia, I think this was the most delightful game of the day. It was a very close and competitive game we had. France hardly managed to win 90-89 at the end. I really liked Doncic's performance (16 pts, 10 reb, 18 ast) in this game but they couldn't be the winner.

This Saturday, we are going to have the final and the game for the 3rd place. France beat USA in the last two head-to-heads. They have the power to do it again. But I feel like USA will win this crucial game and win the tournament as well.

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August 05, 2021, 03:04:22 PM
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Slovenia - France was really great game, despite of referees who made somw questionable calls. Doncic made triple double, 18 assists is insane number, but it wasn't his day at all, he missed a lot of shots. On last attack Slovenia did everything right, but that Batum block was iconic.
Australia started game very well, and were leading by 15 points at one point. USA defense was a joke, and in attack there was no ball movement and only individual actions. But things changed after USA timeout in 2nd quarter. And it was impossible to stop Durant again.

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August 05, 2021, 03:14:03 PM
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A great win for USA basketball, I was certainly worried about them due to their sluggish start but it looks like they are really starting to gel and I would have a very hard time believing that they won't be bringing home the gold.  I have to give it up to Kevin Durant as well.  I love that this is his third Olympics and that he is absolutely dominating the world.  I figured he wanted to be "the man" on this team and he sure has been showing it. 

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August 05, 2021, 03:39:19 PM
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Even though he did everything, the golden dream is over for Luka Dončić and co. It was such a dramatic finish and a lot of controversies happened in the game. Officiating was pretty bad for both sides. I was expecting a close game but not that close. Grin Batum blocked Prepelič when 2 seconds left, who would've thought an ending like that? Feels bad for Slovenians but France end up in finals and they will have another game against USA.
USA reached finals effortlessly as expected. This finals will be too hyped, as France beat USA in group stage. This time it will be very different though, this is gold medal combat.

That moment:

Photo Source: Reuters / Charlie Neibergall
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August 05, 2021, 03:54:28 PM
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Nicolas Batum showed good sportsmanship.

“Nicolas Batum told me he hates playing against me”: Luka Doncic calls the France star a ‘class act’ following Slovenia defeat at Tokyo 2020
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Luka Doncic shows his admiration for Nicolas Batum after France defeats Slovenia to advance to face off against USA and calls Batum a ‘class act’.
Luka Doncic and his perfect streak of being undefeated in international play has officially ended after Slovenia fell to France, 90-89. France will now advance to face off against Team USA in a bout that will decide who wins Gold at Tokyo 2020 while Slovenia will square off against Patty Mills and the Boomers in a game that will settle who wins Bronze.

The entirety of the Slovenia-France game saw Luka Doncic dominate in an extremely Luka-eque way. Though he merely shot 5-18 from the field, the shots he made were reminiscent of the ones he drains while on the Mavericks: step-back, high arcing shots from beyond the arc. However, the story of the night for Doncic was his playmaking.

Luka feels bad but with this kind of opponent, it will ease what he feels and the entire team as well.
They will come back next Olympics, Luka is still young, hopefully he is fully healthy that time.
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August 05, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
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Even though he did everything, the golden dream is over for Luka Dončić and co. It was such a dramatic finish and a lot of controversies happened in the game. Officiating was pretty bad for both sides. I was expecting a close game but not that close. Grin Batum blocked Prepelič when 2 seconds left, who would've thought an ending like that? Feels bad for Slovenians but France end up in finals and they will have another game against USA.
USA reached finals effortlessly as expected. This finals will be too hyped, as France beat USA in group stage. This time it will be very different though, this is gold medal combat.

That moment:

Photo Source: Reuters / Charlie Neibergall

Yeah France is going to give them fits but the way US are playing right now it's going to be a tough go for France this time around.  US playing better as a team and with gold in the picture you are going to get everyone's A game.  As Durant and Lillard go so will the US, Durant needs a 30 pt dominating game from him.

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August 05, 2021, 04:55:45 PM
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^^ Chase down blocked,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc97zwVgzfk

It will be a good show for the finals, although France beat USA, but that doesn't mean anything.

USA has blend so well now, Booker finding his range and so is the two NBA champions, Holiday and Middleton, and of course Kevin Durant as their leader.

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

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August 05, 2021, 05:03:36 PM
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USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

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August 05, 2021, 05:09:01 PM
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Nicolas Batum showed good sportsmanship.

“Nicolas Batum told me he hates playing against me”: Luka Doncic calls the France star a ‘class act’ following Slovenia defeat at Tokyo 2020
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Luka Doncic shows his admiration for Nicolas Batum after France defeats Slovenia to advance to face off against USA and calls Batum a ‘class act’.
Luka Doncic and his perfect streak of being undefeated in international play has officially ended after Slovenia fell to France, 90-89. France will now advance to face off against Team USA in a bout that will decide who wins Gold at Tokyo 2020 while Slovenia will square off against Patty Mills and the Boomers in a game that will settle who wins Bronze.

The entirety of the Slovenia-France game saw Luka Doncic dominate in an extremely Luka-eque way. Though he merely shot 5-18 from the field, the shots he made were reminiscent of the ones he drains while on the Mavericks: step-back, high arcing shots from beyond the arc. However, the story of the night for Doncic was his playmaking.

Luka feels bad but with this kind of opponent, it will ease what he feels and the entire team as well.
They will come back next Olympics, Luka is still young, hopefully he is fully healthy that time.
Luka indeed still young and the chance for this country to take home the silver or a chance for gold still possible,

Still can't believe that lost I'm eyeing for Luka to advance to the finals and face he's co-superstars (team US),
but that's life luck didn't back them up and that Batum block that's really an amazing one, it will remembered.

France VS Team US what a great faceoff, Gold medal  awaits to the winning team!
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August 05, 2021, 05:15:22 PM
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It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  Wink

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.



Congrats, that's a good win, big odds.

Luka was 16-0, now the streak is over. It's France vs USA.

There are no betting odds yet but most likely the spread will be -10 to -12 for team USA, and I think it's still a good handicap since USA has been winning by big margin in the past games.

The game between USA vs Australia would have seemed like an easy bet if one the watch the game, but USA really made it look easy after trailing by 15 points at some point during the first half, but they can change the game regardless of the deficit within the twinkle of an eye.

There is no stopping USA from the gold medal, I was anticipating a Slovenia vs USA final, but it really doesn't matter who their opponent is.. It should be a sweet USA revenge for the opening game.

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August 05, 2021, 07:43:29 PM
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Honestly France definitely deserved the game BUT doncic is just insane, dude is just insane, he is by far the best player I have seen at that age, I do not remember any player who was as good as him at that age, sure Lebron and MJ were THAT good, MJ had a huge injury at 22 but when he came back at 23 he had 37 ppg on a season where whole chicago scored 104 points per game, so dude scored more than 35% of their points all by himself.

Lebron is once again Lebron, we all know him, same with Kobe. But can you realize just who we are talking about? I am comparing this 22 year kid with players who are considered the best ever in history of basketball, that is how good Doncic plays. And right now he was just one missed block away from going to finals, his first ever lost in 30+ games for his national team as well. I congratulate France and I am feeling sooo excited about Doncic.

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August 05, 2021, 09:18:17 PM
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USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.

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August 05, 2021, 09:25:44 PM
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USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Is this the same odds when they first played and USA lose?
I'm wondering what sportsbook you are using, I like to verify the odds and might my bet as early as possible on France to cover the point spread and probably to win as well. Why I'm doing it? because ML odds for USA is boring, I can't risk my $100 for $1.12 only. 

Agreed betting US at those odds just aren't worth it.  Will they lose, probably not but waste a possible hundred with just getting $12 in return.  Risk reward just isn't there.  The point spread might be the best thing to bet here.  If I had to bet one side with the current odds I would bet on the US tough to bet against them right now.

They are more composed by now unlike the first time that they've met, the rotations and the aggressiveness of each players inside the court is more sronger now.

But like both of you taking ML is not good risking huge amount of money  in hope of increasing it by 12%, handicap might work but waiting for the live event may give some better looks betting against this two countries.

The quest for gold still near for US squad, it depends now from how they'll going to complete it.

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August 05, 2021, 09:34:19 PM
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^^ Chase down blocked,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc97zwVgzfk

It will be a good show for the finals, although France beat USA, but that doesn't mean anything.

USA has blend so well now, Booker finding his range and so is the two NBA champions, Holiday and Middleton, and of course Kevin Durant as their leader.

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Good offensive setup by Slovenia but a better defense that time by France  Smiley, that's the break of the game that cost them the silver medal as the gold belongs to the USA team this time hehe.

Though I worry about the length and defense of Gobert but i do believe that KD and the rest of the team could figure it out how to escape long hands so US -11.5 @1.83 is very attractive AFAIC.

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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.

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August 06, 2021, 02:25:02 AM
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.
This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

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August 06, 2021, 02:30:32 AM
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Guys, I can't believe it, I was convinced Slovenia will beat France.
We cannot deny that it was an excellent and disputed game. In my opinion Luka doesn't play very good, including 2-9 (3 points) I'm surprised!

I don't know, but I believe the USA has more chances to beating France in the finals than Slovenia, Luka is one of the few players in these Olympics who "can dominate" some USA players.

Yeah, I thought that it will be Slovenia vs US in the finals, and I take a L on both games.

The thing with Luka though is that he has a bad shooting night because France defenders put a physical on him. Nevertheless, the finals between USA and France will be good, Gobert and Batum will have to carry France in both defense and offense. But we all know that team USA has a lot of players that can shoot and take the game so it will be very though for France to win against USA.

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This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.

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August 06, 2021, 04:11:15 AM
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Great win by France, Nicholas Batum is really a key piece for them.

Tough loss by Australia as well. Up by 15 in the second quarter and managed to blow that lead and lose by nearly 20 - but I guess that just shows you the dominance of the U.S. team.

For U.S. vs France though, I'd still back France given that they have beaten the US before and they are definitely the more team oriented team. We've seen how badly the US can play together - it's like they are a bunch of individuals instead of a cohesive group.

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This is expected actually, France is indeed a good team who played very well against Slovenia, and as expected they'll face USA in the finals. Doncic did his best but still fell short, they can still have a match between Australia for the Bronze medal, they'll surely win.

France already won against USA on their first meet up so they have a better chance to beat USA again but we should not under estimate USA because they are a good team as well and they are more veterans who always played for the gold over the past Olympics. This is an exciting match, I'll still go for USA this time.

I have doubts about the US team campaign early on but after their good showing after their loss to France, and how they blend I think the US team can match France talents, it's going to be a very good match in the finals and it can go either way, for me, their first match has no bearing anymore on their coming match, the NBA veterans hopefully will blend their individual's talent and comes out with a good play.

Yes, on the contrary, that "big" lost against France was really a wake up call for them, so they started to work their chemistry and blending. And we really see that they struggle after that lost, but eventually the puzzle fall into pieces and right now they are still the favourite to win against France, but it will not be an easy win because France has talent and have NBA players in their rosters.

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