Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

[SaiyanSS3]

Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

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[Skinny48]

Soldiers don't go to war just because they can win or not, they did that to safe their families and friends, they crave for peace and better future,  if there aren't soldiers in your country you won't have peace and time to come on here, are you the type of man that condemned the sacrifice of soldiers? They are better than you and I mate, think deeply, also this has nothing to do with crypto investment and economy if you aren't ready to take risks or probably lose you won't be able to win if you invest in crypto, with the will of taking risks and the will of learning from your mistakes you will eventually win.

[paxmao]

Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

In the world wars, young and naive people go to battle field and fight each other to death, they take risk to protect the war that they can never win, while they’re being manipulate by the other group of elite who do not like to take such risk. These elite tell the young people to take the risk despite they know it’s risky and they don’t want take the risk but want someone else to take such risk. Many people died and sacrificed in the war that can’t be won. The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

Certainly, war is no high-risk high-return, is high-risk low-return, and is not an investment - not for the individuals that take part on in directly at least.

It is not as much as being fooled because of age, it has a lot to do with the culture and the knowledge and the beliefs. Most of those who want you to fight for them or given them your money will speak of "country", "god", "freedom", "patriotism",... but they will only be thinking of power, money, land,... They will use your goodwill and your love for their purposes. Those who only take news from one side or do not want to listen to other´s points of view, and think that only certain party o leader or book has the absolute truth and all else is wrong are the ones most at risk of being manipulated into a wrongful conflict.

However, in business, high risk high return exists and sometimes there are low risk high return opportunities. Is no longer a question of elites, anyone can choose to learn how to take advantage.

Re "elites" actually, they do invest in risky ventures - if they loose they still have plenty, whereas if you loose it will mean something for your.

[jrrsparkles]

Comparing investors with the soldiers seems stupid idea,

Let's talk about the soldier's high risk, you are saying that the soldiers are not getting any returns for their risk but the actual return is you are sitting in your home and talking about this because of someone is taking risk to save their borders. If no one is ready to become soldier then imagine how you are life is going to be!

[SaiyanSS3]

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>This is not related to economy, or what are you driving at?
I’m always wondering, some guy call economics is a science, they think it’s a know how and know why. Let’s break down economics into parts, ecology + taxonomy = economy, eco + nomy, is it obvious economy is a study of the interaction living organism in a community or in a kingdom? I’m not entirely sure how do you think of economy, you may have equal it to pure investment only, I had no idea because there isn’t an investment chapter in the economy textbook.

>You mean no soldier or useful people should be involved during war? I yet do not see the point you are making.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike soldier, I’m very clear to only attack the elite for their evil plan on mind controlling soldier to do their risky work.

>People will always face high risk business because of the return if that is what you mean, if you regarded them as fools, some people do not have option because it is the way they are surviving.
Whatever you think, this is what you belief, high risk high return, you would always associate everything with risk, because it’s already part of your flesh and your mindset, I don’t blame you, you can have your own way, I wouldn’t force you to change btw.

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>Soldiers don't go to war just because they can win or not, they did that to safe their families and friends, they crave for peace and better future, 
Preciously, they’re taking risk to get the high return, the return is PEACE, although peace is just a mental state of feeling secured, but this mental state is of very HIGH value, it’s definitely worth every risk to fight for peace!

> if there aren't soldiers in your country you won't have peace and time to come on here, are you the type of man that condemned the sacrifice of soldiers?
Nope, they’re great guy, I would thank them for debunking the ugly of the wars, without them nobody would learn and the war wouldn’t stop.

>They are better than you and I mate, think deeply, also this has nothing to do with crypto investment and economy if you aren't ready to take risks or probably lose you won't be able to win if you invest in crypto, with the will of taking risks and the will of learning from your mistakes you will eventually win.
I’m always happy with people who want to take risk, want to take high risk, or they preaching high risk high return, they have every rights to defend their point on taking risk, blindly following what other people told is not something I would accept and happily with whatever they do.

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>Certainly, war is no high-risk high-return, is high-risk low-return, and is not an investment - not for the individuals that take part on in directly at least.
Some people would regard PEACE as the highest form of return one can imagine, you would never appreciate until you have no more PEACE. Is war high risk high return? There is little to doubt about it. Those guy who are evilly genius know very well PEACE is just a worthless feeling and worth nothing, it’s just a feeling of secure, but PEACE mean a lot to very poor people who are constantly in troubles.

>It is not as much as being fooled because of age, it has a lot to do with the culture and the knowledge and the beliefs.
Age is very reliable factor, knowledge is accumulated through ages, nobody can be instant knowledgeable especially when you’re being indoctrinated with false knowledge for ages, you can’t never see the light.

>Most of those who want you to fight for them or given them your money will speak of "country", "god", "freedom", "patriotism",... but they will only be thinking of power, money, land,... They will use your goodwill and your love for their purposes. Those who only take news from one side or do not want to listen to other´s points of view, and think that only certain party o leader or book has the absolute truth and all else is wrong are the ones most at risk of being manipulated into a wrongful conflict.
Very impressive briefing, I would happily advocate such knowledge to all young and naive guy.

>However, in business, high risk high return exists and sometimes there are low risk high return opportunities. Is no longer a question of elites, anyone can choose to learn how to take advantage.
War is always profitable, high risk high return existed during wars, you have a lot of wars, world wars, currency wars... YUP you’re not dumb to think currency as a form of wars!! In the end wars is mostly mental state, the actual killing in wars is only consist of a very small part of the entire world wars, we all spend huge amount of time in the workload that’s outside of the killing, we spend most time in politics negotiations during the wars, we spend most time on mental gymnastics during the world wars, the killing is the last moment that would only last for a few weeks.

>Re "elites" actually, they do invest in risky ventures - if they loose they still have plenty, whereas if you loose it will mean something for your.
What if I tell you the elite are not young and naive guy? They’re all smart and also very old guy??

[noorman0]

Your opinion is the same as someone who has never enjoyed a decent return, either because you have not tried at all or have experienced major failures.
Therefore, in business all individuals must be soldiers for themselves with all their intelligence and responsibility.

The elite do not take the risk, not only they didn’t take risk they also profit a lot from the war, for the people who love to advocate high risk high return, NOPE you’re wrong, they take no risk while they can make the maximum profit that those of you who take risk can only dream of.

I do not understand about the risk you mean, do you mean millions of dollars of wealth invested is not a risk at all?
Then, who are the elites in investment/trading that rule you? You enter, you are the sole controller and in full charge of your assets. If you think of popes as elite and retailers with a thousand different minds are warriors, it's impossible for popes to rule retailers all at once.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

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OP, did you realize your post was super repetitive?  This is what I'd call a bloated shitpost that's long but basically says nothing. 

I was going to write something about the topic itself, but it's blatantly false on its face that high risk is only for the young--and you didn't even define "young".  To you it could mean people in their teens or 20s, but to me it could be anyone up to 45 years old.  And aside from all that, there are big risk takers of all age categories....so I'm not sure why you started this thread, but my guess is it's a merit-grab attempt. 

Big fail.

[joniboini]

OP, other than pharmacist suggestion above, I think you also need to realize that calling people idiots multiple times won't be enough to convince people. It might even cause them to turn around instead of reading your argument.

Btw, you don't really need to believe in HR/HR opportunity, it's just a category of investment. Whether you believe it or not, there are various cases where people profit from doing risky maneuvers.

[SaiyanSS3]

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>Comparing investors with the soldiers seems stupid idea,
Compare investment to war
Compare investor to soldier
Compare invested asset to ammunition/gun/weapon

>Let's talk about the soldier's high risk, you are saying that the soldiers are not getting any returns for their risk
the return solider get from war is victory, it’s a very sweet return, think of all the sweat and blood that pave the way for peace, isn’t it well worth it?

>but the actual return is you are sitting in your home and talking about this because of someone is taking risk to save their borders. If no one is ready to become soldier then imagine how you are life is going to be!
Here we goes again, yup, security is at risk too, fortunately someone else is taking the risk, no doubt without soldier there won’t be peace.

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>Your opinion is the same as someone who has never enjoyed a decent return,
someone who has never enjoyed a decent return! Well said, under current circumstances, no one can think of get rich quick, I don’t think there is anyone who actually become rich following the investing rules, remember all the billionaires teach you a bunch of rules to follow? I doubt you have forgotten all of them! I think they tell you to invest into stock market to get rich, why aren’t you invested in stock? Why aren’t you quit crypto?

>either because you have not tried at all or have experienced major failures.
it definitely got the vibes of a financial ruin.

>Therefore, in business all individuals must be soldiers for themselves with all their intelligence and responsibility.
I’m intrigued by someone who actually believe business is about taking huge risk. Btw most successful business starts from nothing to build into conglomerate today. Doesn’t bitcoin start off from zero? Don’t be the soldier, they’re risky.

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>do not understand about the risk you mean, do you mean millions of dollars of wealth invested is not a risk at all?
Want to define risk in plain text??
Covid virus is very high risk and need to resort to martial laws, bitcoin is risk to some people, gold is risk to some people, chemicals inside talcum is carcinogenic risk, Monsanto is gmo risk... what is risk? It’s everything!
Someone get hurt, hence it’s risk, yup, even a drawn character that resemble a criminal can be risk, gta v is a risk too, it’s risky to children, and someone get hurt or killed in that risk...!

>Then, who are the elites in investment/trading that rule you? You enter, you are the sole controller and in full charge of your assets. If you think of popes as elite and retailers with a thousand different minds are warriors, it's impossible for popes to rule retailers all at once.
A casino has total control of their win/loss rate, gamblers who take risk in the casino, can never stand a chance to beat the casino into total loss. The elite, being the casino king pin, has absolute total control to every plebs who place their bet in their casino, it’s not a fairy tale, the casino theory has been proven over and over again, casino can’t never lose no matter how genius competent the gamblers are, all of them, even in a huge team would loss to the casino.

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OP, did you realize your post was super repetitive?  This is what I'd call a bloated shitpost that's long but basically says nothing. 
Yup, you want to get rid of risk? Everybody want to get rid of risk in their life? Can you get rid of risk? Is it even possible to get rid of risk? Risk is probably the highly bloated shitpost ever yet nobody can get rid of risk! Funny?

>I was going to write something about the topic itself, but it's blatantly false on its face that high risk is only for the young--and you didn't even define "young". 
Young is not age specified. For animal, their young age are much deviated. For a turtle, 200 year old can be a young turtle. For whales, 100 year old is a young whale. For human? Young human? When we construct a sentence, “the morning is young.” We do not specify the age, what we are trying to describe is, “it’s early in the morning.” Young and naive guy refer to the people who get into investment without any basic knowledge, they’re as young as apprentice, as young as a toddler in the investment, they have no idea of the entire corrupted practices in the investing industries. Indeed as young as clueless newbie who are readily to be slaughtered in the stock trading.

>To you it could mean people in their teens or 20s, but to me it could be anyone up to 45 years old.  And aside from all that, there are big risk takers of all age categories....so I'm not sure why you started this thread, but my guess is it's a merit-grab attempt. 
Young and naive, all of you.

>Big fail.
not sure if it’s satire.

[jackg]

Re "elites" actually, they do invest in risky ventures - if they loose they still have plenty, whereas if you loose it will mean something for your.

Elites and the financially stable manage their risk and that's the difference between them and everyone else. Elites are financially stable people who were able to take an extremely low risk-reward opportunity normally. Amazon started as an online book store in a garage, why? Was it maybe the lack of financial burdon? Also selling books and having a $250k investment from your parents is a pretty stable deal - the books are still going to be worth how much you can recycle them for and would probably be worth at least 80% of what they were bought for.

I'm thinking (especially from the US) that a lot of the $10M+ entrepreneurs had fairly middle class parents (at least) who were able to invest in them - this obviously makes it look extremely hard to end up in that category, but perhaps not impossible.

People normally have backups for things too so the risk will probably reduce that way - most people financially stable or elite have some sort of hedge/diversification options available to them.

[Smartvirus]

they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

The name calling came of somehow offensive! Seriously, you don't call people names for not having the same view on a point as you do or buying into some other persons idea just as your expecting us to buy your ideas and accept it as absolute about that point! NO, that's not how life works or the society is set-up. Variations does exist amongst everything and that's the beauty of life. Air your views and give people a chance to air theirs because in a way, anyone with a contrary opinion just feels stupid or like an idiot as you put it to air it out. As such, they become really ashamed.

Well, this isn't an armed force discussion board, its a bitcointalk forum and an economy board @OP and should I talk about the 'high risk high return' policy, its practically true but not in all aspect. I'll explain. Scenario;

1. There are those who would invest in altcoins or some package of some sort with their spare cash, not knowing what the future of the coin or token is but then, they take this risk and in a few years, the coin pumps and they profit a lot from so little.

2. In this case, with every ROI being a multiple of your investment, investing more or having high stakes in a carefully examined project would mean, having high returns as well.

Using these Scenario, the stakes to reward factor can be proven in Scenario 2.
Embrace variation mate and be cool with people for choosing the side they choose. They have them reasons  and you ain't in ther shoes.

[Ucy]

Your post not very consistent. Is high risk the problem or taking risk at all? I can guarantee you that most adult regularly take risk in their businesses but the responsible/experienced ones try to minimize risk as much as possible while working to be profitable.

So, both young and old should be well prepared to avoid taking big risk.

[Renampun]

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I don't really understand what you mean by making this post...

high risk is good when you know what you are doing, cryptocurrency is an example of high-risk high return, and you see what is happening in the market that many people are also successful from high-risk investments like cryptocurrency. basically, you have to know how much risk the asset you invest in, never invest in things you don't know.

[SaiyanSS3]

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>OP, other than pharmacist suggestion above, I think you also need to realize that calling people idiots multiple times won't be enough to convince people. It might even cause them to turn around instead of reading your argument.
that’s perfectly how to manipulate people into doing something into their favour. In the casino, whether you bet it in BIG or SMALL, casino is the winner. In the world war, no matter what is the outcome of the wars, whether the Japan win or the Nazi win, the elite still profit from the wars, many people still died in the wars. You think the elites never aware of plan b? They have total control of the outcome, plan A and plan B, both of them are a total success.


>Btw, you don't really need to believe in HR/HR opportunity, it's just a category of investment. Whether you believe it or not, there are various cases where people profit from doing risky maneuvers.
gambling in Las Vegas is classic form of high risk high return, name me a guy who beat the Las Vegas into NET LOSS, there isn’t any to date?

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>Elites and the financially stable manage their risk and that's the difference between them and everyone else. Elites are financially stable people who were able to take an extremely low risk-reward opportunity normally.
Exactly, countless of real life proof suggesting clowns are getting rewarded handsomely for being clowns, is printing money not a risk free approaches to make money? Are people too dumb to take risk today?

>Amazon started as an online book store in a garage, why? Was it maybe the lack of financial burdon? Also selling books and having a $250k investment from your parents is a pretty stable deal - the books are still going to be worth how much you can recycle them for and would probably be worth at least 80% of what they were bought for.
It’s baffling amazon might not be able to survive today if not for the massive stimulus given to keep them going, they haven’t been making profit enough to pay for their employees.

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I'm thinking (especially from the US) that a lot of the $10M+ entrepreneurs had fairly middle class parents (at least) who were able to invest in them - this obviously makes it look extremely hard to end up in that category, but perhaps not impossible.
Keep that going, billionaire all get rich from stock market, doesn’t it make sense to invest in stock market? They’re too calling bitcoin is a scam, and you shouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

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People normally have backups for things too so the risk will probably reduce that way - most people financially stable or elite have some sort of hedge/diversification options available to them.
It is always the same, printing money is the obvious form of risk free/hedging/plan b, it’s too easy, even a kid can understand this very simple concept yet there is many young and naive guy who want to refute.

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>The name calling came of somehow offensive!
make love don’t make war?

>Seriously, you don't call people names for not having the same view on a point as you do or buying into some other persons idea just as your expecting us to buy your ideas and accept it as absolute about that point!
or course when some point is blatant lies, you should have make noise. Are you the guy who are pro vaccinated or anti vaccine??

>NO, that's not how life works or the society is set-up. Variations does exist amongst everything and that's the beauty of life. Air your views and give people a chance to air theirs because in a way, anyone with a contrary opinion just feels stupid or like an idiot as you put it to air it out. As such, they become really ashamed.
btw many people told you to quit crypto since it’s illegal, it’s scam, it’s high risk, why did you quit? Why are you not invested stock market when trump tell you to do so?

>Well, this isn't an armed force discussion board, its a bitcointalk forum and an economy board @OP and should I talk about the 'high risk high return' policy, its practically true but not in all aspect. I'll explain. Scenario;
sure, financial wars is not discussing about armed force, do you want to believe currency is not a form of war? Do you want to believe we should make peace and have only one currency for the entire globe? When we have only one currency peace is inevitable.

>1. There are those who would invest in altcoins or some package of some sort with their spare cash, not knowing what the future of the coin or token is but then, they take this risk and in a few years, the coin pumps and they profit a lot from so little.
yup, don’t get too happy they have 98% chance of the coin going south too.

>2. In this case, with every ROI being a multiple of your investment, investing more or having high stakes in a carefully examined project would mean, having high returns as well.
when the coin going south, your high stake go to very low price, and you suffer heavy loss.

>Using these Scenario, the stakes to reward factor can be proven in Scenario 2.
Embrace variation mate and be cool with people for choosing the side they choose. They have them reasons  and you ain't in ther shoes.
when the point is too obvious even toddlers can understand, we would still have countless young and naive guy who simply choose to be bad actors, you would always have two polarising group of people, far left or far right, they’re stubborn and won’t listen.

[el kaka22]

It is understandable that when you are 20 years old, you could put in 50-100 bucks and try to go for that 100x profit, or read the 100 dollar startup and try to make the same thing, or hope that you will one day work for yourself and have your own business and hire people and get rich. Those type of big dreams usually happen when you are younger, because when you become 30+ years old like me, all you want is stability in life, for example I have a great job right now, and I am willing to work like this for 30 more years and then retire as an old man and just relax, that is a valid thing for me, I am not after huge sums of money anymore like I used to.

Nowadays my "get rich" dreams usually involve a lot smaller stuff that requires me not working, for example get enough money to retire now and go to a sea side place and simply read, watch netflix, swim and repeat that until I die, not own a billion dollar worth business.

[larus]

Sometimes young people are the most lucky ones, they still have their chance of loosing. So, why not?

[Obito]

Nope you are wrong, you probably failed in taking risk that's why you are saying this stuff regarding high risk, high reward is a bad thing. I don't see how you are right about it, of course you compare elite to plebians like us which is the right thing to do, they don't take risk because they already have the money and if they park it at the safest place, it will eventually go up.

[Robinson66]

Many people may minimize risks and obtain high profits, but high profits do come with high risks. You said if you don’t invest, is there no risk, is there no return, if you don’t want to risk just selling a token with a certain profit, then the profit you get is what you know, the profit you calculated, if You want to take more risks and get more profits. When you put money into tokens, but the tokens have risen so much, and you continue to hold them, you think you can take risks, and you think you can get high profits by taking risks, but isn’t this high risk?

[worle1bm]

So you believe only youngsters take risks and other adults want to have stable income? I don't agree with this at all and you are making war comparison here which is another blunt thing you are mentioning.They don't send old people to war because young ones are more active and can heal fast if injured but it's not the case with old ones so they have to keep the balance and win ratio in mind.But in investing the case is totally different as you have to analyse the market and take risks accordingly and with experience you gain more knowledge of market.Many rich ones on the Forbes are not adults or teenagers under my knowledge.So you need to move that thing from your mind.

[ultrloa]

So you believe only youngsters take risks and other adults want to have stable income? I don't agree with this at all and you are making war comparison here which is another blunt thing you are mentioning.They don't send old people to war because young ones are more active and can heal fast if injured but it's not the case with old ones so they have to keep the balance and win ratio in mind.But in investing the case is totally different as you have to analyse the market and take risks accordingly and with experience you gain more knowledge of market.

Yes vast majority of youngsters are now taking high risk if we talk  about cryptocurrency that's why we see tons of innocent guys got victimized by false hope of earning some richest on certain platform they going to invest. And compare to old dude they are more careful on their investment that's why they are more selective and always analyze on where they put their money since taking huge risk is suicide and being safety is a gem to them. Although we can't deny that sometimes those people who take the risk earn high returns but this is rare case only and majority we turned up being a scam victim so instead we earn we lose all what we have.