Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return

[mbe48]

I think it's just a choice, whether you stay or change. Even though the topic you are discussing is about war which does have a link between politics and economics, in the past war was about fighting over a territory, now war is a competition for profits even though the risks are high. The problem is in your own mind, in Crypto anyone who is able to take high risks will get high profits. In price history, you can conclude that BTC is very profitable in the long run as long as you can change your mindset and know how it works. This is a market where there are buyers and sellers, haggling over prices to make a profit.

[zanezane]

OP means that high-risk and high-reward should not be believed? As a crypto investor, isn't it a high-risk place in the crypto market? Without risk, there is no proportional return, and only if you have the ability to take risks can you be eligible for profit.

Well, OP is wrong in a lot of places, I mean it has been shown that some high risk and high reward endeavors do pay off big time so I don't get why OP is saying that people who have this kind of approach are naive, I think OP is the naive one here.

[perfect999]

Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.

In terms of war, well you’re right about that, but when it is about economy and investment, that’s just how it is; high risk means there is likely to be high profit. It is not everyone that invests in a high risk investment that is going to make profit, some people will face the high risk and some will profit, everybody is not going to win, except those that knows what they are doing. Even at that, no matter how good you are, there are still going to be times that you’re going to face the risk and lose.

So, you misinterpreted it, because in terms of economy and investment, it is high risk and high reward. But it is not the same for war, and war is totally different from investments, it is a thing of death and is a very bad thing. Only stupid people pray for war.

[Wakate]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

[RealMalatesta]

In terms of war, well you’re right about that, but when it is about economy and investment, that’s just how it is; high risk means there is likely to be high profit. It is not everyone that invests in a high risk investment that is going to make profit, some people will face the high risk and some will profit, everybody is not going to win, except those that knows what they are doing. Even at that, no matter how good you are, there are still going to be times that you’re going to face the risk and lose.

So, you misinterpreted it, because in terms of economy and investment, it is high risk and high reward. But it is not the same for war, and war is totally different from investments, it is a thing of death and is a very bad thing. Only stupid people pray for war.

I agree, sure there are high risk and low reward stuff in the world as well which do not make sense and not many people do that but high risk/high reward things are abundant in the world and people take that risk all the time. Even quitting your job to start your own business is not a way to make a profit that easily, it is just very hard and very high risk so you are going to end up with a very big profit if you end up with the right business.

So long story short there are many things in life that causes you to take a risk and the reward is high, it is not even just business or money, even while buying a pillow you may pay a ton of money and take a risk and if you enjoy it a lot then you are doing great but if you end up with a bad pillow you don't enjoy then you paid for nothing. So, it basically means everything in life could include high risk and high reward.

[Ultegra134]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

Any kind of risk is gambling, even holding might be considered gambling, because the future is uncertain. Trading is definitely a risky (but profitable) practice, which I used to do in the past. My profit could even surpass 10% on each trade, but stopped because it was too much of a gamble for me. It's a great earning opportunity, if you're willing to take such risks, I couldn't though.

[Semar Mesem]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

I think so, it is ridiculous if you are too brave to take high risks even though there are high profit prospects, this is the importance of risk management so that we must always think about risk, it is better to look for something safer than later regretting.

[Oceat]

OP means that high-risk and high-reward should not be believed? As a crypto investor, isn't it a high-risk place in the crypto market? Without risk, there is no proportional return, and only if you have the ability to take risks can you be eligible for profit.

The context of Op is not related to the economy and of course, war is different from the economy. It's a life and death situation and it's not a good idea to talk about high risk and high return because it looks like someone is playing their(soldiers) lives by monetizing it through the act of war. I wouldn't talk more about of it since it's a complicated situation.

Anyway, in investment the high risk, high return is a 50-50 chance and is not a good idea to encourage it to everyone because of the high risk involved. It should be better if we talk about how to minimize the risk and how to gain profit with a low risk involved.

The lower the risk the better.

[xSkylarx]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

Any kind of risk is gambling, even holding might be considered gambling, because the future is uncertain. Trading is definitely a risky (but profitable) practice, which I used to do in the past. My profit could even surpass 10% on each trade, but stopped because it was too much of a gamble for me. It's a great earning opportunity, if you're willing to take such risks, I couldn't though.

Both are risky. You are correct, but choosing between gambling in a casino and holding a coin for a long period of time, as you stated, is better for me to hold a caoin because I have a higher percentage of gaining profit or if I am losing, I can cut it down so that all of my coin will not be lost, unlike gambling, which will be gone in one second if you are unlucky, unlike holding a coin which you can keep forever until it has a value

[SaiyanSS3]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351180.0
When the rent money stop, pay check stop, income stop, women become hyper panic and super realistic!!

[Rehan Zakir]

You are saying right that the youngster can take more risk then the old age peoples. A youngster is more energetic and passionate with their work. They do work with passion. But the old peoples think many times before taking any risk. But sometimes high risk goes opposite and you will struck in loss. So, just take risk which you can face. Don't take high risk that you cannot face. But high risk will give you high returns.

[paxmao]

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>Certainly, war is no high-risk high-return, is high-risk low-return, and is not an investment - not for the individuals that take part on in directly at least.
Some people would regard PEACE as the highest form of return one can imagine, you would never appreciate until you have no more PEACE. Is war high risk high return? There is little to doubt about it. Those guy who are evilly genius know very well PEACE is just a worthless feeling and worth nothing, it’s just a feeling of secure, but PEACE mean a lot to very poor people who are constantly in troubles.

>It is not as much as being fooled because of age, it has a lot to do with the culture and the knowledge and the beliefs.
Age is very reliable factor, knowledge is accumulated through ages, nobody can be instant knowledgeable especially when you’re being indoctrinated with false knowledge for ages, you can’t never see the light.

>Most of those who want you to fight for them or given them your money will speak of "country", "god", "freedom", "patriotism",... but they will only be thinking of power, money, land,... They will use your goodwill and your love for their purposes. Those who only take news from one side or do not want to listen to other´s points of view, and think that only certain party o leader or book has the absolute truth and all else is wrong are the ones most at risk of being manipulated into a wrongful conflict.
Very impressive briefing, I would happily advocate such knowledge to all young and naive guy.

>However, in business, high risk high return exists and sometimes there are low risk high return opportunities. Is no longer a question of elites, anyone can choose to learn how to take advantage.
War is always profitable, high risk high return existed during wars, you have a lot of wars, world wars, currency wars... YUP you’re not dumb to think currency as a form of wars!! In the end wars is mostly mental state, the actual killing in wars is only consist of a very small part of the entire world wars, we all spend huge amount of time in the workload that’s outside of the killing, we spend most time in politics negotiations during the wars, we spend most time on mental gymnastics during the world wars, the killing is the last moment that would only last for a few weeks.

>Re "elites" actually, they do invest in risky ventures - if they loose they still have plenty, whereas if you loose it will mean something for your.
What if I tell you the elite are not young and naive guy? They’re all smart and also very old guy??

On peace... yes that is the point.

Age is one factor, but people of all ages are drawn to fight if they have no knowledge of the consequences... or if they have nothing to loose.

I would not say impressive, but yes, it describes in a few words half a life of learning and observation thank you.

Killing for a few weeks... money wars... too long of a topic, but the last two World Wars lasted years and killed millions.

Re Elites... yes they are young and old both, but certainly naivety is certainly not in their dictionary. Zuckerberg was not naïve, I dare to say that since he was 5.

[justdimin]

Any kind of risk is gambling, even holding might be considered gambling, because the future is uncertain. Trading is definitely a risky (but profitable) practice, which I used to do in the past. My profit could even surpass 10% on each trade, but stopped because it was too much of a gamble for me. It's a great earning opportunity, if you're willing to take such risks, I couldn't though.

Both are risky. You are correct, but choosing between gambling in a casino and holding a coin for a long period of time, as you stated, is better for me to hold a caoin because I have a higher percentage of gaining profit or if I am losing, I can cut it down so that all of my coin will not be lost, unlike gambling, which will be gone in one second if you are unlucky, unlike holding a coin which you can keep forever until it has a value

It is not even close if you ask me. Unless you are holding some small cap very high risk coin, I would say that holding a coin profits a lot more, gambling is guaranteed loss, holding a coin is not a guaranteed loss. Can you lose money? Of course, but will you lose it all? Unless you happen to buy a coin that is so brand new that it is not even released yet and you bought it on presale and then they end up with causing you to get rug pulled or anything, then you are fine.

Go ahead and hold bitcoin, it is almost 100% guaranteed that given enough time you are going to profit and that is what people care for, making good enough profit is all we can ask for, gambling is not like that, you are going to end up losing all of your money there for sure. This is why I honestly think that gambling and long term holding are just the opposite, one makes you money while other loses you money.

[jossiel]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling.

That's risking not gambling. There is both risk in trading, investing and gambling. But I guess in general understanding, people just giving all of them one meaning as taking risk is equals to gambling.

High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck. This is why it's not good to copy people's style of trading especially if it has high risks value. Lesser risks is enough to execute a trade in order to avoid unnecessary regrets.

In investing, there's no such as luck. They're all based on analysis and speculation, well, maybe a little of luck but it's not all about luck when someone invests and made a profit out of it.

[SaiyanSS3]

Women always win, only guy need to take high risk venture

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350717.msg57556628#msg57556628

[macson]

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Well, OP is wrong in a lot of places, I mean it has been shown that some high risk and high reward endeavors do pay off big time so I don't get why OP is saying that people who have this kind of approach are naive, I think OP is the naive one here.

it's clear that @op has an employee mentality....those who think they are safe are definitely employees and civil servants, they will not want to try high-risk things even though the profit they get can be large.  "high risk high return" is one of the words spoken by rich dad of Robert Kiyosaki.

[sulendra12]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck.

I agree that the luck takes a part of your success but do keep in mind that you should not rely on luck. Your skill and your decision could make stuff different than what you would have thought. But, assuming that high risk investment means gambling is kinda stupid for me. Gambling is 100% luck compared to investment where investment the research and your decision are reasons why you get the profit.

[wxa7115]

Well, if being naive is taking high risk then call me as one because the moment that I have invested in bitcoin I was ready for all the risk that there is for me to see. Also, isn't life all about taking risks and taking the win? If you don't take risk OP then you are probably a coward.

The asset that you select to invest is only one of the risks that you are taking, also it can be argued that investing in bitcoin now is not such a big risk at all.

The ones that invested in bitcoin at the beginning took a big risk since they were putting their money in something which they did not knew will have any chance of succeeding, they were right on the risk they took but they could have been wrong and lost their money, so your risk is not only constituted by the asset in which you invest, but the time at which you do, the price and the amount of capital you use to do so.

[Quidat]

Taking too much risks in trading and investing is a form of gambling. High risks taker might be luck to make good profits in certain trades while the rest could lead to bad luck.

I agree that the luck takes a part of your success but do keep in mind that you should not rely on luck. Your skill and your decision could make stuff different than what you would have thought. But, assuming that high risk investment means gambling is kinda stupid for me. Gambling is 100% luck compared to investment where investment the research and your decision are reasons why you get the profit.

Dealing with easy m0ney or simply with HYIPS is just suicide and only fools who do only believe on this one and even think that they could really get rich with this one.
Just let them be into those people who do really believe initially because sooner or later they would really be realizing on how hard to earn money and not just really
relying with luck because you are just basically doing gambling if you do have this kind of behavior and also this is why lots of people get victimized with scams
due to this kind of mindset but once you do gain experience you would realize everything.,

[suzanne5223]

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Well, OP is wrong in a lot of places, I mean it has been shown that some high risk and high reward endeavors do pay off big time so I don't get why OP is saying that people who have this kind of approach are naive, I think OP is the naive one here.

it's clear that @op has an employee mentality....those who think they are safe are definitely employees and civil servants, they will not want to try high-risk things even though the profit they get can be large.  "high risk high return" is one of the words spoken by rich dad of Robert Kiyosaki.

I never read the book rich dad which was written by Kiyosaki but the OP statement says it all and I believe zanezane is the person that's lost or don't understand much about how influential people abuse their ability, the pump/dump group set their followers as prey, and how Roi investment scam their users which is what the OP trying to point out but she said it all in parables.