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August 16, 2021, 08:42:46 AM
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My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.
This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

Experience doesn't always imply better skills in this or that field, so I agree with you. But with that said, I want to note that believing in high risk high return isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just have to weigh your options carefully, and if you put something at high risk, it should be something you can afford to lose.

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August 16, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
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My personal experience tells me that every time I say high-risk and high-return, I always remember the high-return but always forget the three words high-risk habitually.

In fact, people will know that when investing has a high profit, it is automatically a high risk, many say bitcoin/crypto is gambling but I don't think so because there are many factors that make us believe this is not gambling.
This fact is somewhat too general and sometimes misinterprets some points, it is generally more accurate to risk based on the investor's economic background, a person with good economics won't worry about losing a few thousand dollars while a person with poor economics will be the opposite. It's just one of a few small factors, but it can be said that believing in that rule is an incomplete experience, however, we cannot attribute all of that deficiency to young men, age does not define a person's experience

Experience doesn't always imply better skills in this or that field, so I agree with you. But with that said, I want to note that believing in high risk high return isn't necessarily a bad thing. You just have to weigh your options carefully, and if you put something at high risk, it should be something you can afford to lose.


Agreed, I believe high risk high return is a very broad term. For example, my friends are all into trading, but after they've burned through their accounts, they're all into axie, which is high risk at the time, but has a bright future, so we could say it's also high reward. I now regard them as wealthy because they are willing to take risks and recognize that they will not always be able to recoup their investment. I believe that the HYIP or ponzi schemes he is referring to are the majority of them, as there are currently only a few.
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August 18, 2021, 09:46:24 AM
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Agreed, I believe high risk high return is a very broad term. For example, my friends are all into trading, but after they've burned through their accounts, they're all into axie, which is high risk at the time, but has a bright future, so we could say it's also high reward. I now regard them as wealthy because they are willing to take risks and recognize that they will not always be able to recoup their investment. I believe that the HYIP or ponzi schemes he is referring to are the majority of them, as there are currently only a few.

I don't know when your friends invested in Axie, but if that happened before the end of June this year, they've got 10x to 17x return by now, which is really amazing. However, if they invested much more than they could easily afford to lose, even though they have become rich this time, I would advise against such behavior in the future lest they become poor.

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August 18, 2021, 11:04:42 AM
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Soldiers don't go to war just because they can win or not, they did that to safe their families and friends, they crave for peace and better future,  if there aren't soldiers in your country you won't have peace and time to come on here, are you the type of man that condemned the sacrifice of soldiers? They are better than you and I mate, think deeply, also this has nothing to do with crypto investment and economy if you aren't ready to take risks or probably lose you won't be able to win if you invest in crypto, with the will of taking risks and the will of learning from your mistakes you will eventually win.

sometimes they force to play war, they dont have any option, just do it first before the opponents do it first to you.
and yeah, mistake you made will give high percentage of winning. pilling up experience make user stronger.
high risk high return is absolute thing, and knowledgeable with full of experience is absolutely absolute
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August 18, 2021, 02:14:44 PM
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What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because  sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.

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August 18, 2021, 02:43:28 PM
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What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because  sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.
Risking more is just like spending more money on crypto having an assumption that they can make more profit from it which I think was not impossible. I don't think also that it was not applicable in the crypto space. Imagine, if you are buying Bitcoin worth $10k before, you can imagine how much it was today, yeah, you can simply never think it before because it was not how we look into Bitcoin. But for now, many have got attracted to invest in Bitcoin, and despite the high risk, we never lose our hopes.

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August 18, 2021, 02:54:26 PM
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What i get from high risk high return is not really can be implemented in crypto. Because sometimes high risk not give us really good return in the end especially if we made investment. Percentage of risk and return is all depends on the coin itself. Because  sometimes we use small amount of money which it made us to think it will risk a litle from all our money give us big profit.
Risking more is just like spending more money on crypto having an assumption that they can make more profit from it which I think was not impossible. I don't think also that it was not applicable in the crypto space. Imagine, if you are buying Bitcoin worth $10k before, you can imagine how much it was today, yeah, you can simply never think it before because it was not how we look into Bitcoin. But for now, many have got attracted to invest in Bitcoin, and despite the high risk, we never lose our hopes.

They are been attracted with the profit that's why many want to join without even thinking the risk, although its quite possible to earn on crypto but we should need to learn on how to counteract on our losses since if we just lame around and think about I can lose what I put then provably we will struggle to earn.

But if investors will invest and know about the risk then its good to let hem do it since they will realize that how hard to gain on bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

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August 18, 2021, 03:07:10 PM
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They are been attracted with the profit that's why many want to join without even thinking the risk, although its quite possible to earn on crypto but we should need to learn on how to counteract on our losses since if we just lame around and think about I can lose what I put then provably we will struggle to earn.

But if investors will invest and know about the risk then its good to let hem do it since they will realize that how hard to gain on bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Because they see it in terms of a very fast increase and think of a lot of profit without thinking of risk and it is true that the average person comes just to do that without doing any learning and experience when trading / investing in crypto so this will be a lot of failure and cannot be returned its high risk.
Actually, there are so many ways on how as investors to know about the risks that exist, they even see the risk first compared to the profits, so we will find it easier and more confident in choosing the coin of our choice.

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August 18, 2021, 03:39:04 PM
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First of all, it's war. What's the return for war? It's not high risk high return I guess, it's high risk zero return. Nothing can be gained from war, only sadness, misery and nightmares. Meanwhile, I believed in high risk high return in an investment. There are also a lot of articles and journals regarding that thing too, so are you saying that those scientific researches are wrong? If there's low risk high return, of course many people want that. But life is not a paradise, it's not that easy. There might be something low risk high return for the elites, but it's only for those with privilege, and for the one who don't have? they have to take the risk of course in order to gain something big in return.

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August 18, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
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Here's a lesson for you, the elite don't need to take risk because even in the safest bet, they will still make a lot of money compared to us who aren't part of that circle jerk, it's inevitable that we have to take risk. It's not naive, it will only be naive if we are uninformed regarding that investment.

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August 19, 2021, 04:07:22 PM
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Since the war is over, it’s not profitable for the elite anymore. They know what is their next move after the war. Yup, money, they’re now looking at money, they know money has the same properties to a world war, they also know they do not like to take risk, so now they tell all you idiot to take risk that they don’t want to take and deceive you to believe high risk high return, you’re real idiot if you didn’t learn from the previous lesson, you’re idiot if you didn’t learn from the world wars, you’re idiot to take risk that they tell you to take while they making maximum profit taking no risk at all.
I get that people may not feel like high risk high return is not a thing, but it is a thing. Is it a good thing? Well depends, if its high risk then it means that eventually you will have horrible days and you will have good days rarely as well, after all its high risk and rarely we see high risk stuff return high rewards at all times, we see them scarcely and that is why they are high risk, otherwise it would be low risk high return and everybody would have done that.

This is why I honestly believe that we should not be looking into high risk high returns as just one concept, sure it doesn't sound too good when I tell you "the most probable outcome is that you will lose your money", sure that sounds horrible but the reality is that we are going to have a huge return if it works out. So, if I re phrase and say that "there is a 1% chance that you will profit but if you put in 10 dollars you may make 1 million dollars" then people will usually say "what the hell its just 10 dollars" and buy it. That is lottery for you.
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August 23, 2021, 11:03:29 AM
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Here's a lesson for you, the elite don't need to take risk because even in the safest bet, they will still make a lot of money compared to us who aren't part of that circle jerk, it's inevitable that we have to take risk. It's not naive, it will only be naive if we are uninformed regarding that investment.

The elite will always be one step ahead of us, there is nothing we can do. They have better access to information and get a first mover advantage, while the average Joe is left behind and just follow the big money. Another big thing that rich families have is that they diversify their assets. They own companies, different houses, nice cars, boats and planes. So whenever one asset is going to go down, another won will offset their loss.

Guys, be careful with such notions, because you can start risking too much out of desperation, while it's not necessary these days.

The elite used to have a huge advantage in the past. The more you go back in time, the greater that advantage was. Say, 500 years ago, if not in the elite you had zero chance of succeeding, risking or not. Today, especially during the latest 20 years, things have changed, a lot. With the help of the Internet you can get any knowledge and valuable info, and the elite has little to no advantage in this regard. So, it's not like your only option is to take big risks, no, not any more. Just educate yourself and win the game. No need for desperate moves.

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August 23, 2021, 06:20:25 PM
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Guys, be careful with such notions, because you can start risking too much out of desperation, while it's not necessary these days.

The elite used to have a huge advantage in the past. The more you go back in time, the greater that advantage was. Say, 500 years ago, if not in the elite you had zero chance of succeeding, risking or not. Today, especially during the latest 20 years, things have changed, a lot. With the help of the Internet you can get any knowledge and valuable info, and the elite has little to no advantage in this regard. So, it's not like your only option is to take big risks, no, not any more. Just educate yourself and win the game. No need for desperate moves.
I recall some other "desperate moves" here in the forum wherein the OP wants to sell all his assets including his house, just for the sake of investing it in crypto. There's just that those people that think that they can go long step forward just to get ahead of these elites.

I agree that the Internet is sufficient enough for every knowledge, and most of the resources out there are even free and being published almost everywhere. Some are even being published in Youtube and that's a plus, because not everybody is a fan of reading.
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August 24, 2021, 07:03:13 AM
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What about DEX with high APR ? Few months ago, when https://biswap.org/ appeared, they offered plans with several thousand APR. Their exchange token even had +3k% on the start and now has ~150%. What we see now is: high risk = checked, high return = check. This DEX right now is on top positions among new gainers and high popularity.

If DEX is not a total swamp, can it be counted as OK for "high risk high return" ?

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August 24, 2021, 07:17:18 AM
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Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return


No way! There are more older people who believe in high-risk high-return investment. Most young people nowadays are more financial literate and more careful in their investment. With technology, young generations able to invest in calculated risk.

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August 24, 2021, 07:24:20 AM
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Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return


No way! There are more older people who believe in high-risk high-return investment. Most young people nowadays are more financial literate and more careful in their investment. With technology, young generations able to invest in calculated risk.

This is something I agree with! I believe that this generation is mostly financial literate because they are aware of it through the internet; however, those older guys that I know who have little knowledge of this are the ones who are getting scammed by high risk returns; yes, they can manage money, but when it comes to a high return on their investment, they are more likely to invest than the younger once since they are researching and finding peoples testimonials about it.
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August 24, 2021, 07:29:37 AM
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Only young and naive guy believe in high risk high return


No way! There are more older people who believe in high-risk high-return investment. Most young people nowadays are more financial literate and more careful in their investment. With technology, young generations able to invest in calculated risk.
Older people have a lot more patience to invest they are less prone to emotions they are more confident in real life, so they are very careful about investing but young people are very emotional they can't do anything with patience they lose everything by gaining more quickly young people are never able to take high risk.
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August 24, 2021, 09:18:18 AM
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The philosophy behind this post is wrong. You cannot combine the military risk in war and the opportunity to make a profit together. Although wars in most cases have economic goals, this is from the side of the attackers. On the part of the people who defend themselves, this philosophy is wrong. There is a saying that the people who do not want to feed their own army will be forced to feed someone else's. That is, each state must have its own strong army, which must be ready at any time to engage in battle with the attacking enemy. In this case, the military have the right and the obligation to risk, including their own lives.
Each state has its own elite. The level of her legitimate actions depends on the level of corruption in the country and other factors.

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August 24, 2021, 09:58:04 AM
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There is a wrong assumption being made by the OP. He feels that it is the young people who make mistakes for most part in the cryptocurrency sector. However, I have to say that the reality is very different. Look at various Ponzi schemes which involved cryptocurrency, such as OneCoin and PlusToken. Most of those who lost their money were middle-aged or elderly. I would say that OP should remove the "young" word from the title. Inexperienced users are more likely to make mistakes, and it doesn't matter whether they are young or old.
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August 24, 2021, 11:24:50 AM
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Inexperienced users are more likely to make mistakes, and it doesn't matter whether they are young or old.
Indeed, newbies are often the one who likely to commit mistakes because they are lacking of knowledge and easy to convince for a high reward but high risk type of investment. However newbies has no age bracket so you can engage yourselves regardless on how old you are, thus it doesnt mean they're specifically young people.

What im certain is if you fill your mind with knowledge and aware of what you're getting into, its unlikely for you to fail or commit the usual mistake of newbies.

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