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July 17, 2021, 08:18:16 PM
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The world has been depending on burning fossil fuels for energy, throughout all these years. With dependence on fossil fuels, soon enough these finite materials will be depleted. Not only that, but it also has adverse effects for the environment, everything from air to ocean and land pollution.

Fossil fuels include, coil, oil and natural gas, with the latter being cleaner that oil and coal in terms of emissions. Let's also keep in mind how strenuous of a process it is to extract oil, promoting environmental disasters.

Most common renewable energy sources include, solar energy, wind energy, hydro energy, tidal energy and a few others.

The big question here is, can the world be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources? How can that be achieved and are they sustainable?

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July 17, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
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I think we have a problem of places investing in things THEY can easily use. Places like north Western Europe with a lot of coastal areas have done extensive research on wind power and hydro electric as they're the most usable in those places). It's kinda been helped by China doing a lot of research into making solar but all of these power sources require emissions to be produced imo and solar might require unrecycleable plastic (I'm not sure if there are any mostly silicon versions available though).

Many countries in the world also have a condition for reducing carbon emissions. The EU still targets itself at 50% renewable power consumption (set in law) and the UK receives wind power for most of the year other than a few days every few months (I think they're designed to function at speeds between 20mph and 50 so if the wind speed is too low or too high it has to be turned off).

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Energy is a really complicated topic. There's a massive number of ways you can combine production and distribution, and figuring out the optimal balance for any geographic area requires a lot of surveying and understanding of the local environment, natural resources, as well as trade relationships between neighbouring countries.

I think renewables will be forced onto consumers in the developed world, especially in the West. This isn't inherently a bad thing, but depending on some of the factors I mentioned above, there will be pos/neg consequences at smaller geographic scales. For example, NYC just decommisioned a nuclear power planet, leading to blackouts throughout the state and NYC. California also voted to decommission Diablo Canyon, and they have no plan for an alternative source of energy, they just state it has to be carbon neutral. These are (in my opinion) poor choices, and will have extremely negative consequences regardless of the renewable energy source that may or may not fill in the gap.

Poor excuses for switching to renewables aside, there are legitimate problems with renewables. They're still much more unreliable than oil/natural gas, storage of excess energy is an issue (one that Bitcoin mining can actually help alleviate), and the actual production of things like solar panels require rare earth materials and metals which are mined in developing nations with poor regulatory oversight. Often, the extraction and purification of these materials results in environmental degradation that goes unchecked in parts of the world where end consumers tend to not care about (so much for "clean" energy). These issues will be resolved or become insignificant enough to ignore over time, but they exist for now and it's silly to pretend renewable energy is some holy grail that we can just have for free (which is how politicians treat it).

So in the short term, I expect a lot of decommissioning of functioning nuclear plants (bad) and aging coal/gas plants (better). In the medium term, these things will be replaced by renewables where they make sense, some countries/provinces/states may just decide to stop producing energy and start importing it entirely. In the long term, I think we're looking at nuclear, although if people were serious about stopping climate change, we would be building nuclear plants at a monotonically increasing rate.
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July 17, 2021, 10:53:28 PM
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Of course they are the future, oil and gas is a limited resources, and it's also very important for chemical industry. People of the future would be blaming us for burning it not only because of global warming, but also because they will have less oil to make plastics and chemicals. And you should also consider that oil as we know it can currently only be found on Earth, because we don't even know about any life outside of Earth.

However, nuclear energy is not considered renewable, but I think it's also the future, it's getting bad rep because of crazy eco-activists, but it is clean and most of the nuclear materials will not be needed for other purposes, so it's okay to use it for energy.

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July 17, 2021, 11:26:54 PM
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In one shape or form renewable energy will cease to be seen as separate to any other energy source just preferable for its efficiency as much as other types, just requires more refinement and investment I think.
   It may not be exactly as some perceive now, for example bio diesel can be developed from strains of algae.  This is possible today but its not cost efficient as the diesel though natural is hard to produce on a massive scale required to compete with simply extracting ancient reserves but in future it may happen to be the main source of fuel.   Its disappointing how little tidal energy is being used, thats just a case of engineering making use of such large changes every day.

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July 17, 2021, 11:59:17 PM
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Without doubt renewable energy resources are going to be the future for different reasons. Renewable energy sources are clean and can be maintained at a very low cost, but it requires large investment for the initial set-up. Another factor is the usage, it depends on the surrounding for its power generation. So, the power generation can't be expected to be stable in all occasions.

Most of the renewable energy resources were expensive to setup. Same as the advantages there'll be disadvantages with these. The important part, it can be overcome with the growing technology and efficiency can be achieved lowering the pollution and release of toxics.

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July 18, 2021, 02:11:33 AM
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I mean without it, with the limited supply we have of resources, we'd inevitably end up going down as a dying civilization in the long run. Yes, the setup is expensive when it comes to renewable energy and there'd probably be a lot of prep we actually need to do, but it simply means that it's worth the price since we aren't looking at it from a short term perspective, it's a long one, a very long one at that. It's still under research anyhow on how to effectively use it so, at the very least, we're progressing.

And Idrk if the question is answerable since I don't know much about the current progress, but it should be obvious if its possible if you observe the improvements and what not that's happening in relation to it.

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July 18, 2021, 02:37:26 AM
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I don't know how it will be in other places, but where I live they are very interested in this. Because the effects of climate in recent years are becoming more and more obvious, and reducing the amount of CO2 into the environment is considered very necessary to protect the living environment.
Although economic conditions do not allow everything to be universal, I have seen many solar panels or electricity produced from wind turbines.

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July 18, 2021, 03:35:53 AM
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Of course they are the future, oil and gas is a limited resources, and it's also very important for chemical industry. People of the future would be blaming us for burning it not only because of global warming, but also because they will have less oil to make plastics and chemicals. And you should also consider that oil as we know it can currently only be found on Earth, because we don't even know about any life outside of Earth.

However, nuclear energy is not considered renewable, but I think it's also the future, it's getting bad rep because of crazy eco-activists, but it is clean and most of the nuclear materials will not be needed for other purposes, so it's okay to use it for energy.
Nuclear energy isn't actually renewable, if used correctly though, it's a quite efficient and clean source of energy. However, it's not really the safest, if something goes wrong, we're pretty much screwed.

The question is, can the whole planet be dependent on renewable energy sources? The EU currently has targeted to reach 40% until 2030, will it be surpassed? If I'm not mistaken, the current share of renewable energy sources is approximately 20%.

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Do we have a choice? Non-renewable energy sources are finite. They are not unlimited. Sooner or later they will be depleted. The world's population is rising. Along with that is the rise of energy demand. Urbanization is creeping quite fast. That also means energy demand. Technologies are sprouting everywhere. They also demand power. If we are to depend on non-renewable energy sources, what happens when they finally run out one day? That is why we need to tap renewable sources. They are indeed the future.

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July 18, 2021, 04:46:01 AM
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Are they future? Oh yes definitely they are the future. But are they going to be there 100%, that’s big No. Unfortunately its not happy thing to say but there are many challenges while using the renewable sources which primarily contains Solar, Wind, Tidal power etc. More news ways are also being invented every time but with low success rate of getting used. This is because of the cost involved to build the structures. In addition to this Nature is not always happy with humans it can destructing and sometimes the Sun can be so shy you would die to freez.
I’m just saying this shorty but if you think about it deeply you will understand how things can go wrong if we think about 100% nature dependence. Different geography, different weather cycles and more factors to affect continuous production of clean energy.
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July 18, 2021, 04:58:58 AM
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Yes the world can be 100% dependent on renewable energy, it can be achieved if the government were to start adopting it and destroy the oil and fossil fuel companies because they are the biggest opposition of the renewable energy resources, mind you that electric cars were a thing already back in the 60s but it was so suppressed because they care more about the profit rather than innovation. To make it sustainable, we have to create a new kind of battery that can be molded into industrial level and commercial kind because renewable energy gathers a lot of energy but some of them dissipates because there's no storage or if there's one, it's not a proper one.

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July 18, 2021, 05:34:26 AM
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Yes, we need to have renewable energy because if we still use the current energy, the earth will damage and the pollution will be at all places. With the situation now, the earth was already screaming about the carbon and another emission that every country uses, so it needs environmentally friendly renewable energy.

I think this is all country's concern to start using renewable energy. Still, it costs highly because they need to invent new tools or peripheral that can support that renewable energy. But once that tools or peripheral can be mass-produced, the cost can reduce so all countries will not have to pay a high cost to implement.

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July 18, 2021, 06:05:07 AM
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Are they future? Oh yes definitely they are the future. But are they going to be there 100%, that’s big No. Unfortunately its not happy thing to say but there are many challenges while using the renewable sources which primarily contains Solar, Wind, Tidal power etc. More news ways are also being invented every time but with low success rate of getting used. This is because of the cost involved to build the structures. In addition to this Nature is not always happy with humans it can destructing and sometimes the Sun can be so shy you would die to freez.
I’m just saying this shorty but if you think about it deeply you will understand how things can go wrong if we think about 100% nature dependence. Different geography, different weather cycles and more factors to affect continuous production of clean energy.
That's what I also believe. It's highly unlikely that the whole world will be dependent on renewable energy sources. They are quite expensive to implement and complicate. I think that these two ways of creating energy will co-exist for many years to come.

On top of that, not all countries can depend on solar energy, for instance, we have more than 300 days of sunshine per year, thus, some areas could possibly benefit from solar panels.

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July 18, 2021, 08:41:39 AM
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They are quite expensive to implement and complicate. I think that these two ways of creating energy will co-exist for many years to come.
If we can improve efficiency and create new tech to lower the cost, then it will be cheaper in the future. I think it's just how tech works. Just take a look at the computer market for example. You can find a fast processor for under $100 now, which can compete with the top 10 CPUs in the 90s, and so on. Tech will improve, so time will tell whether we can solve that problem or not.

Unless it was monopolized, and the government doesn't support innovation, I don't think lowering the cost will be a huge problem.

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July 18, 2021, 09:43:43 AM
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Yes we can make our energy sources renewable if we as humanity abolish the current energy industry that only aims to profit but not care about the pollution that they are emitting because they don't care about the future generations. If the people in position and power have integrity and won't easily be outshined by money, we will probably see a future where we are reliant on renewable energy.

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July 18, 2021, 10:17:44 AM
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They are quite expensive to implement and complicate. I think that these two ways of creating energy will co-exist for many years to come.
If we can improve efficiency and create new tech to lower the cost, then it will be cheaper in the future. I think it's just how tech works. Just take a look at the computer market for example. You can find a fast processor for under $100 now, which can compete with the top 10 CPUs in the 90s, and so on. Tech will improve, so time will tell whether we can solve that problem or not.

Unless it was monopolized, and the government doesn't support innovation, I don't think lowering the cost will be a huge problem.
I agree, renewable energy sources will be cheaper to implement in the future, they are a relatively new technology, which is now facing a larger adoption.

Just like mobile phones, which were way too expensive 10 years ago, and now they are dirt cheap. Solar and wind energy are the most basic source someone can have, I don't know how efficient they are though.

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Renewable energy a resource for the future.
Most time when the word future is mentioned, majority thinks it the next fifty years or next generation to come but the simple truth about future to me is the next second.
Renewable energy been classified as a thing of the future is inappropriate.
The truth remains that renewable energy is in almost all part of the world today. But it sustainable is the major challenge.
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Green energies and sustainability projects are things that institutions and individuals pressure large companies to reduce the lack of concern for the environment, but this does not mean that they should get rid of traditional sources and resort to alternative energies.
Green energies are not always green, there is a lot of waste that is generated from it and some of it ends up in the dumps, which represents another problem (recycling).

I believe that there will be a balance in the sense that the number of harmful waste that exists globally, there will be requests to reduce emissions, increase tree planting, and reduce sources harmful to the environment.

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The big question here is, can the world be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources? How can that be achieved and are they sustainable?

In an environment where the world is running out of conventional fossil fuels, it is refreshing to learn about the renewable resources that are now a reality. Alternative energy sources such as solar and wind, biomass, geothermal and hydropower seem to be a future of this world, with innovations such as "smart" products that harvest energy by tapping into the environment. I am a supporter of renewable energy sources, with hydrogen fueling cars (combined with electric cars) and fuel cells as a feasible replacement for fossil fuels. But, can the world be 100% dependent on renewable energy sources? My belief is that it is possible. The question is only how long it will take and what it would take.

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