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July 19, 2021, 11:55:58 AM
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Hi,

Is it possible to create a new custom firmware for all references of miners? Or There are some miners which are impossible to cheat with ?
Why it's easy to find custom firmware for some refs and not for others? cost, the reputation of the ref, technical issues ...??

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July 19, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
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Hi,

Is it possible to create a new custom firmware for all references of miners? Or There are some miners which are impossible to cheat with ?
Why it's easy to find custom firmware for some refs and not for others? cost, the reputation of the ref, technical issues ...??

Thanks
it's not hard to create a firmware.
But each miner works differently, some a lot more different than others.

The S15/S17 hack ones are simply based on the S9 code with some modifications.
Heck I created the (free) code fixes and firmware updates for the S1, S2, S3 (but stopped doing it after that)

The issue is that those who do create them seem to think that since they spend a small amount of time working on the changes, they should be paid by everyone who uses it, and they can ignore the license requirements when using the cgminer code since they think they deserve to hide their code and break the license - even though the work involved in the free cgminer code they are using is hundreds of times more effort then they ever spent on anything.

No idea why people even put up with this, but I guess a small number of people have no idea what they are doing, and thus pay fees all over the place and don't even realise how much they are losing. Hack fees, pool fees, withdrawal fees, deposit fees, exchange fees, withdrawal fees, bank fees. The first two are the highest of them all for anyone who uses hack firmware.

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July 20, 2021, 11:30:47 AM
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Hi,

Is it possible to create a new custom firmware for all references of miners? Or There are some miners which are impossible to cheat with ?
Why it's easy to find custom firmware for some refs and not for others? cost, the reputation of the ref, technical issues ...??

Thanks
it's not hard to create a firmware.
But each miner works differently, some a lot more different than others.

The S15/S17 hack ones are simply based on the S9 code with some modifications.
Heck I created the (free) code fixes and firmware updates for the S1, S2, S3 (but stopped doing it after that)

The issue is that those who do create them seem to think that since they spend a small amount of time working on the changes, they should be paid by everyone who uses it, and they can ignore the license requirements when using the cgminer code since they think they deserve to hide their code and break the license - even though the work involved in the free cgminer code they are using is hundreds of times more effort then they ever spent on anything.

No idea why people even put up with this, but I guess a small number of people have no idea what they are doing, and thus pay fees all over the place and don't even realise how much they are losing. Hack fees, pool fees, withdrawal fees, deposit fees, exchange fees, withdrawal fees, bank fees. The first two are the highest of them all for anyone who uses hack firmware.

Thanks for the answer, do you know the average cost of development of a custom firmware in general? I know it's kind of a large question,may be you you have same example ?
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July 20, 2021, 11:54:12 AM
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Thanks for the answer, do you know the average cost of development of a custom firmware in general? I know it's kind of a large question,may be you you have same example ?

I think it doesn't cost anything to develop a custom firmware unless if you are hiring a developer to make a miner custom firmware.
Usually, some developer here on the forum takes a 2%-5% dev fee they just take a small hashrate from your miner.
Sample Braiins OS takes 2.5% dev fee or ASic.to firmware they take 2.8% dev fee.

If you are looking for those custom firmware you can check this section "Mining Software"

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July 20, 2021, 01:47:25 PM
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I think it doesn't cost anything to develop a custom firmware unless if you are hiring a developer to make a miner custom firmware.
Huh?
Assuming a person knows nothing about writing software much less a very specific type of software (firmware), just how does one develop something without hiring a developer? Ans: you don't.

Even if you are a programmer it takes a fair bit of time. Is your time free? No!
When -ck was hired to do the firmware for the Dragonmints it took him several months with over a dozen live releases and who knows how many tries between releases to get it right. Pretty damn safe bet he did not do the work for free.

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