[Poll] At what point will you stop complying with Covid restrictions?

[OgNasty]

People seemed all too willing in my opinion to give up their freedoms based on their government's wishes surrounding this Covid flu.  At what point would you as a citizen decide enough is enough and you are not willing to comply with their guidance any longer?  Maybe you were ok with masks, willing to get a shot, think others should before going outside, don't mind a 'jab' every 6 months, but don't think people should be jailed for not doing so...  I'd like to see the results of where you as a citizen would draw the line, and feel free to post comments about what you would do once that line is crossed by your government.

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[Gyfts]

I was okay with masks for about a week until I realize they do absolutely nothing for most people. I happened to see this headline today - https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/calls-for-renewed-mask-mandate-grow-as-delta-fuels-covid-surge-in-nyc-u-s/3161139

American pediatric association now recommends children, toddlers, above the age of 2 to begin masking up in school. There are something like 300 known cases in the entire US of those under 18 catching Covid and dying from it....there are 74 million minors in the US, so about 0.0004054054 percent of children have died from Covid. Child has a better chance of dying from literally anything else and yet they are masking up toddlers? Purely political, as with most things. No sense in complying with covid restrictions anymore. They aren't rooted in reality.

[nutildah]

I was okay with masks for about a week until I realize they do absolutely nothing for most people.

This doesn't really make sense. They reduce transmission of the virus. Without masks, undoubtedly millions more people would have been infected, and thousands more would have died.

Hypothetically speaking:

If you're sick with the rona and you cough a giant loogie, and chunkies of it fly up your grandmother's nostrils and she catches the virus, its because neither of you are wearing masks.

I don't know what metric you're using to establish what "doing something" entails, but simply reducing transmission of virus-containing respiratory droplets definitely counts in my book.


Everybody else, keep your panties on: most of you are literally at Stage 1 or Stage 0; you just don't realize it because its more exciting to pretend the government is after you.

[Mpamaegbu]

May be there's something political about the COVID19 pandemic in Africa that makes someone like me not believe it exists in that continent at all. I'm really nonchalant about the whole thing, honestly. How else do you restrict people and force them to wear masks and maintain COVID19 protocol in certain quarters and not in certain quarters? Take Nigeria for instance, banks, supermarkets, government offices and corporate organizations force one to observe those stuff but during political rallies and burials the guidelines aren't obeyed. It makes one wonder if there are certain areas the virus isn't permitted to move to. It's really hilarious.

[Gyfts]

This doesn't really make sense. They reduce transmission of the virus. Without masks, undoubtedly millions more people would have been infected, and thousands more would have died.

Hypothetically speaking:

If you're sick with the rona and you cough a giant loogie, and chunkies of it fly up your grandmother's nostrils and she catches the virus, its because neither of you are wearing masks.

I don't know what metric you're using to establish what "doing something" entails, but simply reducing transmission of virus-containing respiratory droplets definitely counts in my book.

You're talking about symptomatic spread, which I don't dispute masks probably help. I'm talking about masking up if you do not exhibit any symptoms, regardless if you've got the jab or not.

By the way, this is what most virologists were saying back in March -- that it it's useless for the general population to mask up unless you're actively exhibiting symptoms. The guidelines changed when there was speculation about asymptomatic spread, but even to this day, there isn't much evidence that asymptomatic/presymptomatic people act as chief vectors of transmission, there never was. And masks do not protect you from being infected with the virus, they only (allegedly) protect you from transmitting the virus, the CDC even acknowledges as much, and so does Dr. Facui. Masking only protects those around you, not yourself.

We have the data for children, 300 known cases of deaths from Covid of people under 18 in the US, and the data isn't clear what type of other conditions those children had, whether the had extreme obesity, whether they died *from* covid, or they died *with* covid, so on. EU, same story, less than one tenth of one percent of all Covid deaths are from children. You're talking about masking up 3 year olds with the new guidelines, they don't know how to use a mask and those masks will become germ traps. Is there *any* evidence at all which examines mask efficacy in reducing Covid spread in children? Doubt it.

Masks work if you're symptomatic and if you use them properly. For medical professionals, if you touch your mask, you need to replace it because you've now contaminated your hands with whatever is on your mask. Do we expect 3 year olds to not touch their mask? If you sweat in your mask, if you build up mucus and saliva in your mask, you need to replace it immediately because the efficacy goes down. Do we expect children to be able to do this?

The doctors know that children are extremely low risk of Covid, they know masks do nothing for children, and yet here we are.

[tvbcof]

C'mon man!  Do a real survey.  95% or more of the sheeple will NEVER stop complying no matter what is thrown at them.  That should be abundantly clear by now.

'Growning citizen pushback' is integral to the 'new normal' and 'great reset'.  The biggest problem the designers have is to how TO get people to resist.  In a funny way, it's probably the pliant masses who will cause the greatest hurdle to 'their plans'.  They overdid it on fluoride or something I guess.

[Mauser]

People seemed all too willing in my opinion to give up their freedoms based on their government's wishes surrounding this Covid flu.  At what point would you as a citizen decide enough is enough and you are not willing to comply with their guidance any longer?  Maybe you were ok with masks, willing to get a shot, think others should before going outside, don't mind a 'jab' every 6 months, but don't think people should be jailed for not doing so...  I'd like to see the results of where you as a citizen would draw the line, and feel free to post comments about what you would do once that line is crossed by your government.

You are missing one answer in your poll and that is to always comply. I understand that people feel violated if the have to take the vaccine. But we need to think for other people, not only ourselves. I am fairly young and even if I would get the corona virus it would probably just be mild  symptoms. My grandmother however with 90 years is not going to have a mild corona infection. I don't want to risk getting her sick, that's why I got the vaccine.

[Jet Cash]

Corona Viruses have been around for at least 90 years, and I have been around for 79 of them. This means that for everu day of my life I have been exposed to infection, and, apart from the usual childhood infections that built up my immune system, I haven't has any sickness other than a few overnight sicknesses. I don't take any pharmaceutical or recreational drugs, and I don't use any of the so-called health supplements. I've completely ignored the covid restrictions and recommendations, except when receiving a polite request to wear a mask when entering a supermarket. I am aware that every single one of the government guidelines id designed to increase the spread of the infection, reduce the natural immunity of the population, or to extend the period of infection in a person. Mask wearing is one example. All reserch shows that it has nbo measurable impact on the spread of infection, but it does give people a false sense of security.  The immune system has a variety of methods that it uses to dispose of infection and toxins, and these include exhalation of breath, urination and defecation. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to realise that reinhalation of exhaled toxins is similar to eating you infected excrement.

I have adopted a lifestyle that removes me fron most of the government restyrictions, but I an concerned about forced injection of poisons, and the so-called passports. I would like a cretifucate that states I am unvaccinated, and thus healthier than the pharma company slaves.

[Cnut237]

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You're talking about symptomatic spread, which I don't dispute masks probably help. I'm talking about masking up if you do not exhibit any symptoms, regardless if you've got the jab or not.

But a general rule has to be applied, surely?

If masks prevent symptomatic spread, then it makes sense that everyone who has symptoms should have to wear a mask.

So how to best ensure that everyone with symptoms wears a mask?

A) Make everyone wear masks. Simple. And despite the vociferous objections from certain quarters, there is almost zero inconvenience. It's the obvious answer.

B) Tell people that you should wear a mask if you have symptoms. Result: some people with symptoms wear masks. Other people with symptoms see the request as (and I have no idea why) some sort of outrageous imposition on their human rights, and don't wear a mask, claiming not to have symptoms. Other people with symptoms don't wear a mask because "it's just a cough, it's not Covid", etc.

Option A is clearly preferable. Same reason that motorways have a speed limit. The blanket rule ensures optimum safety. Professional racing drivers would probably still be capable of driving safely at much higher speeds... but this isn't a reason to abandon the speed limit and ask people to drive at whatever speed they find comfortable.

[arielbit]

Corona Viruses have been around for at least 90 years, and I have been around for 79 of them. This means that for everu day of my life I have been exposed to infection, and, apart from the usual childhood infections that built up my immune system, I haven't has any sickness other than a few overnight sicknesses. I don't take any pharmaceutical or recreational drugs, and I don't use any of the so-called health supplements. I've completely ignored the covid restrictions and recommendations, except when receiving a polite request to wear a mask when entering a supermarket. I am aware that every single one of the government guidelines id designed to increase the spread of the infection, reduce the natural immunity of the population, or to extend the period of infection in a person. Mask wearing is one example. All reserch shows that it has nbo measurable impact on the spread of infection, but it does give people a false sense of security.  The immune system has a variety of methods that it uses to dispose of infection and toxins, and these include exhalation of breath, urination and defecation. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to realise that reinhalation of exhaled toxins is similar to eating you infected excrement.

I have adopted a lifestyle that removes me fron most of the government restyrictions, but I an concerned about forced injection of poisons, and the so-called passports. I would like a cretifucate that states I am unvaccinated, and thus healthier than the pharma company slaves.

i would like to extend that number waaaaaay up.

corona viruses has been around for thousands and thousands of years, they are with us since ancient times and probably evolved with us since the dawn of time.

using corona viruses to scare the entire world is just a load of crap..."novel" my ass...it is/was raining novel/variants/mutations since corona viruses existed.

it is like seeing a new breed of dog evolved to another form of dog and the whole world goes ape shit LOL

[suchmoon]

The list doesn't make sense. If you "comply" with the vaccination, how would you stop complying further down the list?

[Gyfts]

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You're talking about symptomatic spread, which I don't dispute masks probably help. I'm talking about masking up if you do not exhibit any symptoms, regardless if you've got the jab or not.

But a general rule has to be applied, surely?

If masks prevent symptomatic spread, then it makes sense that everyone who has symptoms should have to wear a mask.

So how to best ensure that everyone with symptoms wears a mask?

A) Make everyone wear masks. Simple. And despite the vociferous objections from certain quarters, there is almost zero inconvenience. It's the obvious answer.

B) Tell people that you should wear a mask if you have symptoms. Result: some people with symptoms wear masks. Other people with symptoms see the request as (and I have no idea why) some sort of outrageous imposition on their human rights, and don't wear a mask, claiming not to have symptoms. Other people with symptoms don't wear a mask because "it's just a cough, it's not Covid", etc.

Option A is clearly preferable. Same reason that motorways have a speed limit. The blanket rule ensures optimum safety. Professional racing drivers would probably still be capable of driving safely at much higher speeds... but this isn't a reason to abandon the speed limit and ask people to drive at whatever speed they find comfortable.

Since when is lying a good public health strategy? Be clear, be honest. Bureaucrats have been telling people that "the science" says masks help reduce Covid transmission, they make no distinction between symptomatic and asymptomatic people.

If you're vaccinated, there is almost a zero percent chance you'll be symptomatic and have the ability to transmit the virus, so why mask up vaccinated individuals? It's ridiculous.

This is the Trump effect in action, where politicians will do a complete 180 given his position. We're at dementia levels of delusion when you tell people to start masking up 3 year olds. Orwellian type stuff, not rooted in any science, any logic, any rationality. I wish I was exaggerating.  I'm thinking that people associate masks with mental fortitude, so it just makes them more comfortable with their insecurities, so they push it on everyone else. I feel sorry for the hypochondriacs that are vaxxed and still masking, a very sad existence to live so fearfully.

[OgNasty]

C'mon man!  Do a real survey.  95% or more of the sheeple will NEVER stop complying no matter what is thrown at them.  That should be abundantly clear by now.

I was hoping this wouldn't be the case, but you can really see the brainwashed sheep on this thread.  It looks like currently 71.4% of people who have voted think it would be ok for the government to take someone's property and send them to jail unless they get vaccinated to slightly reduce effects for 8 months from a flu.  I get that it's likely idiots trolling, but maybe some of them actually believe this.  It's common human behavior.  Misery loves company.  If you're a sheep who is scared of the government, you want everyone to be a sheep scared of the government.  You might even steal from and incarcerate those who are free or in this case, hope the government does it for you.  I hope this is more a result of people trolling and isn't indicative of real opinions.  Otherwise, I vote that we permanently remove the laughable nickname, "The Home of the Brave" because all I see is fearful children begging for the government to save them from the flu.  Absolutely the most pathetic thing I've witnessed so far in my life. 

[af_newbie]

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If you're vaccinated, there is almost a zero percent chance you'll be symptomatic and have the ability to transmit the virus, so why mask up vaccinated individuals? It's ridiculous.

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You are only vaccinated against some variants.  We don't know what variants are out there.

That is why all measures need to be taken by everyone.  The dodo birds who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated make things worse
as they prolong the pandemic and give a chance for a virus to mutate into something that might be difficult to manage.

This thing is not over.  Get vaccinated asap, and wear the fucking mask at all times.

[tvbcof]

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If you're vaccinated, there is almost a zero percent chance you'll be symptomatic and have the ability to transmit the virus, so why mask up vaccinated individuals? It's ridiculous.

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You are only vaccinated against some variants.  We don't know what variants are out there.

There were no variants until they started the vaccination gene therapy and it radically increased the evolutionary pressure on the virus.

That is why all measures need to be taken by everyone.  The dodo birds who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated make things worse
as they prolong the pandemic and give a chance for a virus to mutate into something that might be difficult to manage.

We 50% who got the seasonal cold virus SARS-cov-2 have durable life-long immunity to all of the 'scariants'.  Most of us didn't even know it because the thing was so mild.  We're good, and we are pulling the weight of herd immunity for your lame ass.

You 'vaccinated' trans-humans, on the other hand, are totally fucked.  Seems that the 'vaccine' provides at best limited relief from one minor strain and no others.  Now you cannot risk a wild-strain coronavirus, or even probably some of the scariants that the 'vaccinated' are making, because of antibody dependent enhancement so you are going to have to have boosters as far as the eye can see.  They are even talking about one booster per month!

Worse still, people who had good immunity from having kicked the infection get their protective antibodies wiped out by the vaccine gene therapy.  That's why 'vaccinated' people cannot donate convalescent blood.  The blood simply doesn't work any more.

This thing is not over.  Get vaccinated asap, and wear the fucking mask at all times.

You are so totally fucked already that the muzzle induced hypoxia, facial sores, teeth falling out of your bleeding and rotting gums, etc, probably isn't all that big a deal.  You are probably going to be heading for the great muzzled-up social-distanced home-quarantine in the sky within a few years anyway.  Might as well get used to it for your last few years on earth.  Mask up; that way you might 'get lucky' and die a relatively normal death from bacterial pneumonia...now known as a 'covid death' just as is head trauma from a motorcycle crash.

[Cnut237]

We 50% who got the seasonal cold virus SARS-cov-2 have durable life-long immunity to all of the 'scariants'.  Most of us didn't even know it because the thing was so mild.

1. Humans are great apes.
2. Gorillas are great apes.
3. Chimpanzees are great apes.
But... humans are not gorillas, and humans are not chimpanzees. Make a note of this; it will become important in a moment.


1. Sars-CoV-2 is a coronavirus.
2. MERS, with a death rate of 37.2%, is a coronavirus.
3. The common cold is a coronavirus.
But... SARS-CoV-2 is not the common cold or (thankfully) MERS. It is a novel coronavirus that has been responsible for millions of deaths (and if you dispute 'reason for death', then just look at data on excess deaths).

[mu_enrico]

I'll give up once it comes to jail time or big fines/seizure. Look, I don't like forced vaccination, but what can I do if the big guys threaten to put me in jail? Not all countries are like US where you guys can have guns, thus have means to fight the stupid government. Yes, my health is precious, but my ass also should be kept virgin or I might lose my mental health.

[tvbcof]

We 50% who got the seasonal cold virus SARS-cov-2 have durable life-long immunity to all of the 'scariants'.  Most of us didn't even know it because the thing was so mild.

1. Humans are great apes.
2. Gorillas are great apes.
3. Chimpanzees are great apes.
But... humans are not gorillas, and humans are not chimpanzees. Make a note of this; it will become important in a moment.

Nope.  It stayed just as meaningless as before.

1. Sars-CoV-2 is a coronavirus.
2. MERS, with a death rate of 37.2%, is a coronavirus.
3. The common cold is a coronavirus.
But... SARS-CoV-2 is not the common cold or (thankfully) MERS. It is a novel coronavirus that has been responsible for millions of deaths (and if you dispute 'reason for death', then just look at data on excess deaths).

Every generation of these things has some mutations as a function of their modes of function.  There are a near-infinite number of 'novel' examples of coronavirus.  You cannot spook people who have a basic understanding of basic biological science...which explains nicely why the education system is so broken.

[Gyfts]

You are only vaccinated against some variants.  We don't know what variants are out there.

Yeah, we do know what variants are out there. The delta variant is the only one that shows evidence of higher transmissibility and there isn't any evidence that shows vaccinated people should be worried about it. The vaccines are extremely effective against variants, so if you are vaxxed and are worried about variants, you are paranoid and fearful without any evidence to support your concerns.

That is why all measures need to be taken by everyone.  The dodo birds who refuse to wear masks and get vaccinated make things worse
as they prolong the pandemic and give a chance for a virus to mutate into something that might be difficult to manage.

This thing is not over.  Get vaccinated asap, and wear the fucking mask at all times.

It is *never* going to be over. Ask any virologist that is honest and won't sugar coat things. Coronavirus is too transmissible and it is impossible to inoculate every man, women, and child in the world to prevent its spread completely. They will tell you Covid will be here forever, and will become like the flu, something seasonal. This is never going away. For Covid to go away you need to vaccinate the entirety of the world simultaneously. Isn't going to happen. Say Europe and North America vaccinate enough to reach herd immunity. Do you think India is going to be able to vaccinate their 1 billion plus population in time for Covid to not mutate and produce a new variant? Eventually, there will be a variant that the vaccines will not be effective against. Do we start the doom and gloom process over again, restricting liberties and shutting down businesses over a virus with a 99.5+ percent survival rate?

[tvbcof]

It is *never* going to be over. Ask any virologist that is honest and won't sugar coat things. Coronavirus is too transmissible and it is impossible to inoculate every man, women, and child in the world to prevent its spread completely. They will tell you Covid will be here forever, and will become like the flu, something seasonal. This is never going away. For Covid to go away you need to vaccinate the entirety of the world simultaneously. Isn't going to happen. Say Europe and North America vaccinate enough to reach herd immunity. Do you think India is going to be able to vaccinate their 1 billion plus population in time for Covid to not mutate and produce a new variant? Eventually, there will be a variant that the vaccines will not be effective against. Do we start the doom and gloom process over again, restricting liberties and shutting down businesses over a virus with a 99.5+ percent survival rate?

'Covid' is the easiest disease to get over in the history of mankind.  Just turn off your TV and radio and Poof! It's Gone!

The work is not over yet though.  It will come back with a vengeance unless we recognize the festering corruption within the media, medical, governance, etc institutions who brought this hoax upon us and weed them out too.  Fortunately a lot of them marked themselves spectacularly in their desperate efforts at this genocide.