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July 21, 2021, 06:26:04 AM
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In less than 1-3 years please come back and tell me the difference between the democratic European Union and the authoritarian China.
In China being a de facto authoritarian regime, it's clear they'll want to keep as much control as they possibly can. From what I'm seeing in Europe, democracy's been dismantled. Green passes everywhere, coercion to get a sperimantal shot etc. One day if you want to breathe you'll have to show someone your pass.
Not to mention the execrable limitation of financial freedom that'll be CBDCs.
 
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July 21, 2021, 10:36:57 AM
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As far as I know, at least the interests of the Chinese people are guaranteed. From this epidemic, it can be seen that the Chinese government puts people’s lives first.
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Well, we will never know if that people agrees that they are cared for since they are not able to speak about it?

What you describe i an already tested way of government called "enlightened absolutism" - but it was in the XVIII century. Basically, you care a lot about the people, except that you do not ask them at all.


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In less than 1-3 years please come back and tell me the difference between the democratic European Union and the authoritarian China.
In China being a de facto authoritarian regime, it's clear they'll want to keep as much control as they possibly can. From what I'm seeing in Europe, democracy's been dismantled. Green passes everywhere, coercion to get a sperimantal shot etc. One day if you want to breathe you'll have to show someone your pass.
Not to mention the execrable limitation of financial freedom that'll be CBDCs.
 

Really? Free press, free speech, free movement of people, free movement of capitals, freedom to invest, freedom to dissent, freedom to present yourself to any political role... But yeah.. that will be gone in 1 or 3 years sure. And yeah, go an question the level of freedom on the EU and then say that China is much better. You know how to tell the difference... I can criticize the EU and so can you. Try that in Hong Kong with China and tell me about the experience.

 You can see the EU democracy being dismantled? Well then put your money where your keyboard is and short sell the media outlets in EU... you would be rich in 1 to 3 years. But you are not going to do so and we both know it.

I admit that China is developing quickly and is easily one of the biggest powerhouses in the world currently, but their current government is imperfect just like literally every government in this world.

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No is not "imperfect like all", is authoritarian like many. The question is how long will harmony be able to be imposed as opposed to agreed and debated.

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July 21, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
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Two forces are at play in China and hence in the world. On one side, it is an authoritarian regime that bans many basic rights including the free use of crypto, in the name of harmony and social peace. On the other side the current regime has been able to take hundreds of millions of people out of hunger and abject poverty.

As China takes the economic lead of the world, or at least a significance that does not allow simply ignoring it, that government style or regime will have an gigantic influence on other countries that may sympathize with a successful authoritarian regime and see it as a proof of success without democracy. The oligarchies, the theocracies, presidential regimes and dictatorships will enjoy an unprecedented practical and even moral support from a giant example.

On the other side, while democracies seem week because they seem to be always in disarray and dissention internally, they have a proven record of allowing the flexibility and the mutual recognition of power of the different factual powers and groups. Also, it can be seen that historically, countries that progress generate a gentry class that wants real intervention in government.

What will happen? Will China grow in strength and authoritarianism and propel those countries that are akin or will the internal power of the middle class aim for a "perestroika" of short of the system?


China's way of governance has its two sides of the coin - the one that has a lot of successful policies and regulations that have made their citizens' life better and the one that has endangered and compromised the livelihood, freedom, satefy, the existing cryptocurrency community status and many more.

China's authoritarianism governance had made advancements and improvements, no doubt. It has made beneficial impact to the lives of many, but it has its repercussions. Every way of governance there is has it anyway. The freedom of the people are at stake whenever authoritarianism leadership is practiced. The innovation and development will happen but to the expense of the free-will of the citizens. The regulations of cryptocurrency because of authoritarianism has brough negative impact to the value of bitcoin in the market. Simply because most mining sites are located in China and controlling the flow of operations related with crypto has its downside to the community.

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July 29, 2021, 09:47:52 AM
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China is still developing. I still believe that China can further develop into a big country, because China is a socialist democratic country. Compared with other countries, China is very strict with its citizens in terms of law, but citizens have a lot of trust in the country. This epidemic occurred in China, and the Chinese government issued a ban on travel, which was implemented very well. They quickly controlled the epidemic, which showed their medical progress. This also shows that China is slowly becoming a capitalist country and may develop faster than other countries and overshadow the authority of other countries. This may cause other countries to feel a sense of crisis and want to prevent China from developing.
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