BitRoul.com the only Roulette with no Zero and a solid Provably Fair

[lemarin2]

  
Hi There !

    www.BitRoul.com

    also available on mobiles without app : www.BitRoul.com

Nice to speak with you about our crazy new gambling site :
BitRoul.com as said is a defy the gravity law .
No Zero , no Cheat , a very solid (for the player ) Provably Fair feature .

And for now , no commission . Don't promise that rate it will last , but Enjoy .

I pay 500 Usd if you prove any fail in the Provably fair , whether or not at the advantage of the player .

When creating an account , you receive play money to test .

Thanks to you .

Pierre-Peter
(not really a newbie : account created in 2018)

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[acroman08]

is this an announcement thread? are you part of their marketing team?

if you want to entice users into biting into your dare. I suggest using an escrow. there are escrow services here in the forum for you to use (here's the link Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

also, I can't seem to find their ToS. it just says "Pls write you content....." the website has been around for four months, it's weird that they still don't have a TOS.

[lemarin2]

Hello Dear Hero member .

I am the proud founder of the site , it is not a white brand one , or a servile copy of any .

And yes it is a ... Beta announcement . The site is playable , bug free ( as much as we tested) .

You are true to point out the lack of T and C , we work on it .

The site has not really been around for a couple of months . It was hidden while working on the details .

We have still a long to do list , but consider we are aimed by a positive vibe : have the thrill of gambling not devastating for players .

Thanks a lot for the interest you witness for us .

Pierre-Peter

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

You've been in the forum for a long time already so I don't think that you don't know how to create a proper announcement thread, you might want to edit this and make sure that all that we need to see and know is going to be in your thread starter.

[Haunebu]

Your poor ANN presentation left bad first impressions op. You could have shared the link to the site itself properly. The site itself is plain and bland overall. You should have introduced it once it was fully ready.

The FAQ section needs to answer important queries like minimum deposit, minimum withdrawal etc. Also, you need to provide a clear answer regarding how your site can continue to function without the zero in the wheel op.

[lemarin2]

 Hello Dear Hero member , and by the way competitor .

    I could have some words about your site , you were among the first , congrats . For the rest , let the players be judge .
    
    Plain and bland could be sweet words if translated into Simple , Direct .

    and your "Provably fair" feature could be discussed . You know what I mean .
 
    www.BitRoul.com is by far superior to other roulette competitors , for many reasons , including a RTP of 100 pc .

    

[acroman08]

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not sure why you took offense to what he said. I mean Haunebu has a point. recognizing the problem he pointed would be the best way to take action about it. getting emotional about what he said wouldn't solve anything. also, going to argue about how other gambling site functions just because he criticized the gambling site would just leave a bad taste to other members that would visit this thread.

[lemarin2]

            The words "poor" ,"bad" , "plain" , " bland" , used by a firmly settled competitor is not really a proof of welcome . You can always argue that the points are real , but in terms of design , well ,let my people go . Where is the bad taste .
            I am not offensed , but without love , everything is evil .
      
   Pierre-Peter .
  

[panjul07]

           The words "poor" ,"bad" , "plain" , " bland" , used by a firmly settled competitor is not really a proof of welcome . You can always argue that the points are real , but in terms of design , well ,let my peole go . Where is the bad taste .
            I am not offensed , but without love , everything is evil .
      
   Pierre-Peter .

Calling above posters who give honest opinion as a post from competitor shows that you feel of being offended.
They are not competitor, they are just forum members here who can be potential players.
If you respond honest opinion/feedback/critiques like that, how can you grow up?
You should take all opinion/feedback as a motivation for you to make your site better, if you cant accept feedback then you should not even create a thread here for your site.
Even old reputable sites still get some critiques/negative feedback, but you know how they respond to it?

[acroman08]

           The words "poor" ,"bad" , "plain" , " bland" , used by a firmly settled competitor is not really a proof of welcome. You can always argue that the points are real , but in terms of design , well ,let my peole go . Where is the bad taste .
            I am not offensed , but without love , everything is evil .
      
   Pierre-Peter .

is Haunebu part of crypto.game's staff? because as far as I know, Haunebu is just part of their signature campaign which isn't really part of crypto.game's team or staff. campaigners have their own opinion they do not get an order from their employer to negatively talk about other gambling sites. just because they wear the signature of a gambling site that you deem a competitor doesn't mean that they are trying to discourage you. members can be harsh with words so it's either you thicken your skin up or be negatively affected by them.

[yahoo62278]

Ok 1st of all, Welcome to the forum officially! Now, on to my impression of the site. Let's start with you can only bet numbers. You cannot place a chip on 2 numbers or 4 numbers like regular roulette. Haven't decided if I like that or not yet.

Then check out these screen shots.



In this screenshot, you'll see that every win is 99.99999999. It does not give the correct payout. I'm betting 25 on all the numbers I pick except 20 where i was betting 100. On the numbers that have 25 on them, the win is 900 which is 36-1 and the correct payout.



In this 2nd screenshot, it shows what numbers I bet and the amount. The number 20 hit and I was paid 900 coins, where I should have been paid 3600. Just a few things I have found that need a tweak.

Another thing I just found, I bet 400 chips on 2nd 12 numbers, 13-24, and was paid 300 chips on a win. Normally 3-1 on regular roulette but never should i lose money on a win there.

[lemarin2]

Hi and thank you for the welcome yahoo 62278

As declared in my first message , up to 500 usd can reward any help to bug fixing -mainly the Provably Fair because we made some efforts on that .

We are checking your screens .

[Reatim]

Hello Dear Hero member .

I am the proud founder of the site , it is not a white brand one , or a servile copy of any .

And yes it is a ... Beta announcement . The site is playable , bug free ( as much as we tested) .

You are true to point out the lack of T and C , we work on it .

The site has not really been around for a couple of months . It was hidden while working on the details .

We have still a long to do list , but consider we are aimed by a positive vibe : have the thrill of gambling not devastating for players .

Thanks a lot for the interest you witness for us .

Pierre-Peter

Since you are the founder i think you must realized that this is not how the ANN thread creation must be and how to attract and encourage gamblers to play on your site.

I think hiring someone with Best knowledge and skills will help you out on this.



But it is our prerogative mate, and also Wanna congratulate you guys from promoting you site here in bitcointalk.

Hoping that this will not be for short term operation and legitimacy is the most important thing.

[lemarin2]

Thank you reatim ,

I feel honoured to be welcome in your community .
I will try to bring my personal view of fairness and honesty to this strange industry .

It starts badly for me : a stress test shows big lacks in our control .

see you .

[lemarin2]

 answer to the yahoo 62278 stress test :

  As it was already declared ,so far  we have not settled any maximum bet size .
  you put the finger where its painful .
 The big size of your bets is the source of the issues .
 The pay out is capped , before next version that will integrate the management of the maximum bet size .
 anyway , even in this circumstance  if you can show that you made the bet , you will be paid accordingly to the general rules of roulette payment that will be added in the Terms and Conditions very soon .

  

[Haunebu]

           The words "poor" ,"bad" , "plain" , " bland" , used by a firmly settled competitor is not really a proof of welcome . You can always argue that the points are real , but in terms of design , well ,let my people go . Where is the bad taste .
            I am not offensed , but without love , everything is evil .
      
   Pierre-Peter .

You got offended by the words 'plain', 'bland', 'poor' and 'bad'? Seriously? You don't stand a chance in this crazy competitive industry with that kind of attitude. As @acroman08 mentioned above, you need to thicken your skin if you want to take on the competition.

Also, love? Did you think that this is some kind of fantasy land or something? My interest in your site has dropped considerably.

[hauzenberg]

I really like non-standard casinos and casino games, I play them a lot. I'm not a big fun of classic dice / mines / plinko games, etc. So, this has a good potential but you really need to make a better ANN thread.

I have two questions:

1. How do you plan to make money with 0% house edge?
2. If you don't make money with this casino, how would you be able to pay out players? Or even better question: how big is your bankroll?

Also, I have found a two ways how you (house) can cheat on us (gamblers) and that your provably fair system is fail.

Your provably fair is based on

Code:

SHA512(Server Seed + Client Seed + Nonce)

First of all, in provably fair systems HOUSE CANNOT CHANGE server seed until client seed is changed (or they can but must use pre-generated next server seed before user setting his own client seed). Right now, your server seed is changed with every bet and that's a problem because house can teach how gambler is playing (for example martingale strategy using only RED bets) and house can prepare next server seed which is black!

Second issue with your provably fair is Nonce. You use CURRENT TIME as Nonce and there is no strictly definition when Nonce is created. For example, house can change Nonce a few seconds up and mess with result.

Example round:
server seed: 3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLht
client seed: hauzenberg123
nonce: 10:30:35

Code:

SHA512('3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLhthauzenberg12310:30:35')
roll number: 3 (odd / red)

if house pretends to be busy (slow server) it can change Nonce to 10:30:36 and result is:

Code:

SHA512('3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLhthauzenberg12310:30:36')
roll number: 6 (even / black)

[lemarin2]

hi Hauzenberg ,

Your message is clever and relevant .

  There will be some day a bizness model , but no rush, I have tons of tasks in my todolists .
  First renew and refresh the image and the fact of the roulette .
 
  about the Provably fair , you are perfectly right when you say that the nonce is not a perfect protection , in the cases where :
  - the player bets on red/black , odd/even ...
 and the player does not exercise his power to issue a new seed .
 
  the provably fair remains a struggle between the house and the player ,
 I want to give the player the opportunity to be 50/50 with the house .
 But the player could niglect this opportunity .

  In the case you describe , all the problem is to facilitate the change of the seed by the player .
  The Bitroul  i present is not yet efiicient on that point , but a next version will change the game .

 Also if my nonce : the time is not the best one , it is much much better than the ones like : nonce=previous nonce+1

 

[Woodie]

Roulette with no zero wow, I must try this one, but are the payouts the same for everything else like the columns,  even and odd, corner bets...

Because without that 0 my winning chances just went over the roof.

"No cheat" how do you guarantee this, because game manipulations aren't new to gambling.

[hauzenberg]

You didn't answer me about site's bankroll and way of earning... I'm highroller and I want to try your site but I'm not sure about how much your bankroll is big in case I win. And because of 50/50 and no house edge there is pretty good chance if I deposit high amount that I will have some profits on your site...

So, about provably fair issue, am I qualified for $500?

[lemarin2]

 Hauzenberg , 5 seconds of nonce cheating for the house is not relevant .
 when the player pushes "SPIN" , he has the power to chose his time , and the house could not deal with 5 seconds of cheat without being caught

 For the rest , As long as we do not settle the limits of the bet , i cannot incite you to play big .
As you can see we promptly modify the Terms and conditions in this way .
 
let's wait next version .and stay in touch

[hauzenberg]

I pay 500 Usd if you prove any fail in the Provably fair

I proved it in two different ways.

Hauzenberg , 5 seconds of nonce cheating for the house is not relevant .
 when the player pushes "SPIN" , he has the power to chose his time , and the house could not deal with 5 seconds of cheat without being caught

I'm not talking about 5 seconds, I'm talking about SINGLE second. I proved in this post on REAL example that 1 second different generate 100% different output

Example round:
server seed: 3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLht
client seed: hauzenberg123
nonce: 10:30:35

Code:

SHA512('3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLhthauzenberg12310:30:35')
roll number: 3 (odd / red)

if house pretends to be busy (slow server) it can change Nonce to 10:30:36 and result is:

Code:

SHA512('3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLhthauzenberg12310:30:36')
roll number: 6 (even / black)

^ This is real roll from your website.

1AqFo6SDEW1TgK3usTZgE9dQ6LAttHySRD

Leaving my BTC address for reward

[milewilda]

is this an announcement thread? are you part of their marketing team?

if you want to entice users into biting into your dare. I suggest using an escrow. there are escrow services here in the forum for you to use (here's the link Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

also, I can't seem to find their ToS. it just says "Pls write you content....." the website has been around for four months, it's weird that they still don't have a TOS.

Looking at those words he said then he had mentioned that he would pay if this site proven out on not to be fair so we can really say that he's the owner of the site.

Welcome into this forum BitRoul.com!

First glance on your gambling site then i dont see for it to be appealing.It do looks like a school project and i dont see any efforts been put up and if you do try to compare it on other
competitors then you would able to tell for yourself about the big difference.

[AmoreJaz]

is this an announcement thread? are you part of their marketing team?

if you want to entice users into biting into your dare. I suggest using an escrow. there are escrow services here in the forum for you to use (here's the link Recommended bitcointalk escrow services

also, I can't seem to find their ToS. it just says "Pls write you content....." the website has been around for four months, it's weird that they still don't have a TOS.

Looking at those words he said then he had mentioned that he would pay if this site proven out on not to be fair so we can really say that he's the owner of the site.

Welcome into this forum BitRoul.com!

First glance on your gambling site then i dont see for it to be appealing.It do looks like a school project and i dont see any efforts been put up and if you do try to compare it on other
competitors then you would able to tell for yourself about the big difference.

he mentioned that he's the owner of the site in the early posts. i guess, he needs to hire a good developer here and improve his site. if this is a one-man team, it is understandable that he has a lot of things to do here.
so i don't think this is good for high rollers. imo, this site is not yet ready to accept high traffic.

[Reatim]

Thank you reatim ,

I feel honoured to be welcome in your community .
I will try to bring my personal view of fairness and honesty to this strange industry .

It starts badly for me : a stress test shows big lacks in our control .

see you .

i really do understand you Mate and believe me all our concern is for your site to be welcomed and work best not only in this forum but in the whole world of gambling business because we as gamblers are always seeking for another great place to play and trust so it is on your side to what to do and what to offer for us to trust and stay long playing in your site.

All The best !!! and remember is Stress is the reason why we are keeping struggling and strong so bear with it and do what is necessary .

Good Luck !!

[lemarin2]

  Hello there .

  Sorry if i cannot answer in real time to all of your interesting takes . bitcointalk grants me only few messages .

  To Hauzenberg : Your analysis is good , but does not prove any fail in our Provably Fair .
  What do you say ? : the nonce is a weak element in the chain serverseed+clientseed+nonce  . Nothing new on that point . Nonce is not a key factor , it's salt . It complicates the thing .
   But , again , nothing new .
  The key fact of Provably fair process , mine or some serious others is that the server seed has to be declared as early as possible and of course before the end of the bets . It is the case on the BitRoul , and the future versions will see some major improvements in this matter .

Provability Fair is not a gadget , it s all about it .

   To other Legendary or Hero members , again I have a deep respect for all of you . Just consider that the look and feel , according to you "plain" or maybe "childish " is in the desktop version , and please have a rapid look to the BitRoul mobile version , and feed us back , honestly . We put some major efforts into the playability , without any "dirty" downloads , only html . Yeah that's cool and sane  . Welcome to sanity in the strange world of online gambling .

  Pierre-Peter  
  Founder of BitRoul.com
  

[LimLims]

Hello Dear Hero member .

I am the proud founder of the site , it is not a white brand one , or a servile copy of any .

Then dear proud owner sir, hire some promotional team and do some promotions.
Your announcement thread is dull and full of text only, no catchy images nothing. Just plain text.
Work on that and make it attractive so that players will visit the site.
Now what’s the max bet amount in the site as of now?
And do you also require KYC for withdrawal?

[RILWAN]

I quick look at your site proves to me that your platform is one of the best in probably fair features and the free spins to try it out also gave me an added advantage since I don't need to deposit before I could try your site out.

[rodskee]

I might say that Your Portal is Cute and clean , But don't you wanna put some other context in your   interface? because the way
 i see it is very plain and natural in which might not lure more players.



But I am a Roulette lover mate , and that's what i almost played in all my favorite sites, also with your freebies ?

I think I will visit and check your site deeper later.

[BIN-BIN]

Am glad that more and more sites are popping up this day that offers Roulette as it is my favorite game, your site looks decent and clean it gives me a whole different experience from the excitement I used to get from other sites I have been using before. But you still get some work to do on your platform to enhance your chances of becoming the top roulette platform with a provably fair system one of such is to list more exciting games and also accept several cryptocurrencies as deposits and withdrawals.

Thanks will give more feedback as I keep using the site.

[lemarin2]

  Thank you bin-bin , Ril Wan , Amore JAz , Reatim and all of you ,
  you are so passionate , I love you .

  Next version will integrate the max bet by game .
   and , again , try the mobile version , you will like the style "heavy duty" of the BitRoul .

[Bitinity]

Like the simplicity of the website but I think you can use the empty space under the roulette board to show bet history, can be both all bets history and my bet history. As for now your website looks without players as there is no bets history of all your players. Most people may feel that your site is like a dead site without any activity once they come for the first time because there is no bets history.

[peter0425]

  Thank you bin-bin , Ril Wan , Amore JAz , Reatim and all of you ,
  you are so passionate , I love you .

  Next version will integrate the max bet by game .
   and , again , try the mobile version , you will like the style "heavy duty" of the BitRoul .

Nice approach in all inquiries , Showing your attitude nicely.

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Welcome to the forum Guys , Please stay with High notes and respect from the whole community .

[lemarin2]

 Bitinity , you are true .
 
 there is no interaction between the players  , cause there is no need for that , weel in my view .

 maybe i could start a roulette-dating site , one day   

[imstillthebest]

this ann thread is interesting .
first is what do you mean by no zero . no zero number in the roullete ? or no losses but theres a guaranteed win even if its small ? i like this better .  
second is this is the first gambling site if ever that is willing to pay to prove that they are legit . for sure you wont allow it so you are sure that your site is really fair .
third is this  

no commission . Don't promise it will last , but Enjoy .

does this mean the site can close in no time ? but this can scare the player even if you say that you are legit .

[lemarin2]

hello "Im still the best" ,
Your takes are interesting , I will change right now certain phrasings :

don't promise it will last = don't promise the "without commission" will last eternally ,but yes my BitRoul will last forever

[Clerza]

i tried your website roulette; it works good!(for fun) can't wait to see what happens when cryptocurrency is added

[lemarin2]

 Dear or Dearess ( ) Clerza ,

  Crypto are already available , but yes make your trial with our play money ROUL1

[Clerza]

oh okay, didn't know, i will try thank you

[kotajikikox]

Welcoming you guys in Bitcointalk.org community and Its nice to read your replies constantly to all the questions and advises from forum members .

Just be ready with the Attacks from some Groups that loves harassing Newly gambling site operating specially those who had been advertised here in forum.

Make sure that they will never find leakage or something that they can use attacking your site.

[kurtbitcoin]

 
Hi There !

    www.BitRoul.com

    also available on mobiles without app : www.BitRoul.com

Nice to speak with you about our crazy new gambling site :
BitRoul.com as said is a defy the gravity law .
No Zero , no Cheat , a very solid (for the player ) Provably Fair feature .

And for now , no commission . Don't promise that rate it will last , but Enjoy .

I pay 500 Usd if you prove any fail in the Provably fair , whether or not at the advantage of the player .

When creating an account , you receive play money to test .

Thanks to you .

Pierre-Peter
(not really a newbie : account created in 2018)

Hi nice site, I tested it out. However, I have found a bug in your system advantaging the player. Can you please use a trusting escrow so that it can be released to me once I make it public ? You can't continue with your site while having this bug so please consider it.

I forgot to mention:

I advice everybody to strictly not deposit on this casino until this issue I will make public soon will be fixed , you might lose your funds if the owner decides just to take stop or take down the casino instead of fixing it.

[lemarin2]

Hello Kurt ?

  Thanks for your sweet words .

  About your bug , I propose the community of Bitcointalk to be escrow and the judge .

  You explain the bug and the proofs , I give my advice , you can answer , and finally we decide if you qualify or not and the community is witnessing .

  About how much is it valuable i would say that 500 usd is the maximum : a systemic bug .
  An average bug will be rewarded 150 usd .
  

 BTW I don't understand why you signal a bug at the advantage of the client , and in the end of your message you deter people from playing BitRoul threatening them of losses .
  puzzling   

  

 

[kryptqnick]

Welcome to the forum. You really shouldn't get offended when people criticize your website here because that's how they're trying to help you focus on things that can improve it. It's really nice that you have no fees, but I'd move the zero back to the roulette if I were you because it would look more natural this way... Honestly, the website's design looks too simple to me. Just have a look at all those other websites in the gambling section to see what you want to compete against. And you should definitely write the Terms and Conditions ASAP because otherwise people can't know what they're agreeing to. For example, what is your KYC policy? Is there a minimum withdrawal sum? How do you feel about the usage of VPN? All these things should be written there.

[yahoo62278]

So I got your messages and you said you fixed the bug. I just made this bet and as you see the winning number was 34 and I won 36.



Then we look at the bet history



I had 2 bet on 34 and should have been paid 72. Come on man close deposits down until the site works properly.

[kurtbitcoin]

Hello Kurt ?

  Thanks for your sweet words .

  About your bug , I propose the community of Bitcointalk to be escrow and the judge .

  You explain the bug and the proofs , I give my advice , you can answer , and finally we decide if you qualify or not and the community is witnessing .

  About how much is it valuable i would say that 500 usd is the maximum : a systemic bug .
  An average bug will be rewarded 150 usd .
  

 BTW I don't understand why you signal a bug at the advantage of the client , and in the end of your message you deter people from playing BitRoul threatening them of losses .
  puzzling  

  

 

BUG IN PROVABLY FAIR FEATURE


The bug: Each time you change your client seed, the unhashed server seed is revealed in the response from your server sent to the browser.

Proof:

I change my clientseed to kurtfoundabug00 in the option provided.
It changes successfully and this response is sent to browser.
https://i.imgur.com/cAN70xU.png link:https://imgur.com/a/3G9Upib

As you can see the noramlServerSeed shows the unhashed server seed.

I then take that serverseed and put it together with my client seed and the time I plan to press the spin button and SHA512 hash it.
https://i.imgur.com/CcxMYIZ.png link: https://imgur.com/CcxMYIZ

I then take the hash and convert it to decimal , 2 by 2

https://i.imgur.com/kJmKuIK.png link:https://imgur.com/a/JruDlOM

I then wait for the time to be 1 second as planned and press the spin button so that the time can be accurate.

Here is the spin Result

https://i.imgur.com/epOkzsV.png link: https://imgur.com/epOkzsV

provably fair:
https://i.imgur.com/b6mQJja.png link: https://imgur.com/a/PfszM9A


More Proof

Look at round 65, I haven't played it yet. The hashed seed is given and my clientseed changed to kurtfoundabug001.
https://i.imgur.com/zezZ72l.png link:https://imgur.com/a/nuVxTyA

The unhashed serverseed is already in my possession.

 https://i.imgur.com/vFOlYYN.png  link: https://imgur.com/a/Tm30lQl


If you woud like to have more proof, I can provide it to you.

My bitcoin address is bc1q5staxrlprpn7x5ly9k88g5xr8tzf24ve8l32nj  


I wanted to make everything neat and clear but it seems I can't post images

[yahoo62278]

Hello Kurt ?

  Thanks for your sweet words .

  About your bug , I propose the community of Bitcointalk to be escrow and the judge .

  You explain the bug and the proofs , I give my advice , you can answer , and finally we decide if you qualify or not and the community is witnessing .

  About how much is it valuable i would say that 500 usd is the maximum : a systemic bug .
  An average bug will be rewarded 150 usd .
 

 BTW I don't understand why you signal a bug at the advantage of the client , and in the end of your message you deter people from playing BitRoul threatening them of losses .
  puzzling   

 

 

BUG IN PROVABLY FAIR FEATURE


The bug: Each time you change your client seed, the unhashed server seed is revealed in the response from your server sent to the browser.

Proof:

I change my clientseed to kurtfoundabug00 in the option provided.
It changes successfully and this response is sent to browser.
link:https://imgur.com/a/3G9Upib

As you can see the noramlServerSeed shows the unhashed server seed.

I then take that serverseed and put it together with my client seed and the time I plan to press the spin button and SHA512 hash it.
link: https://imgur.com/CcxMYIZ

I then take the hash and convert it to decimal , 2 by 2

link:https://imgur.com/a/JruDlOM

I then wait for the time to be 1 second as planned and press the spin button so that the time can be accurate.

Here is the spin Result

link: https://imgur.com/epOkzsV

provably fair:
link: https://imgur.com/a/PfszM9A


More Proof

Look at round 65, I haven't played it yet. The hashed seed is given and my clientseed changed to kurtfoundabug001.
link:https://imgur.com/a/nuVxTyA

The unhashed serverseed is already in my possession.

   link: https://imgur.com/a/Tm30lQl


If you woud like to have more proof, I can provide it to you.

My bitcoin address is bc1q5staxrlprpn7x5ly9k88g5xr8tzf24ve8l32nj 


I wanted to make everything neat and clear but it seems I can't post images

[lemarin2]

 Kurt ,
 Can you please allow a newbie to write you privately ? You have to change your settings . Confirm when done .

[kurtbitcoin]

Okay I have changed it.

And thank you yahoo62278 , it looks way better 

[hauzenberg]

 To Hauzenberg : Your analysis is good , but does not prove any fail in our Provably Fair .
  What do you say ? : the nonce is a weak element in the chain serverseed+clientseed+nonce  . Nothing new on that point . Nonce is not a key factor , it's salt . It complicates the thing .
   But , again , nothing new .
  The key fact of Provably fair process , mine or some serious others is that the server seed has to be declared as early as possible and of course before the end of the bets . It is the case on the BitRoul , and the future versions will see some major improvements in this matter .

Provability Fair is not a gadget , it s all about it .

"Your analysis is good"
"does not prove any fail in our Provably Fair"

Are you crazy? You just confirmed that house can change one second later for nonce and change the outcome of the game in that way.

If I place bet at 11:11:11.111 (111 miliseconds) you can chose for nonce 11:11:11 or 11:11:12 (the better outcome for house)!!!

This system IS NOT FAIR, stay away from this site until they fix it.


Even if you don't want to confirm this, you must confirm that changing server seed with every bet is FAIL because house can teach player's gambling strategy and pick server seed which is in house's favor.

To ALL people here on forum, stay away from this site because it's not fair. Continue to gamble once they fix this two issues in provably fair implementation. And one more red alert would be if OP doesn't reward me for this findings.

[lemarin2]

hauzenberg the only thing you have proven is that if the player doesn't change its seed , and if its bet is uniquely based on red/blk , or odd/even ,and if the casino is not honest , then there is a risk . This is not new .
But as you can see , the responsability of the player is engaged . BitRoul has to take action and facilitate the change of seed by the player . This is what we are committed to doing .

[hauzenberg]

hauzenberg the only thing you have proven is that if the player doesn't change its seed , and if its bet is uniquely based on red/blk , or odd/even ,and if the casino is not honest , then there is a risk . This is not new .
But as you can see , the responsability of the player is engaged . BitRoul has to take action and facilitate the change of seed by the player . This is what we are committed to doing .

"and if the casino is not honest"
^^^ THIS
This is the whole point of provably fair. We don't need to believe if casino is honest or not, we need PROOF that casino is NOT ABLE to manipulate (to not be able to not be honest).

1. For the issue with nonce:
- Even if user change his client seed you are still able to manipulate nonce by one second and chose totally different outcome.
- "and if its bet is uniquely based on red/blk , or odd/even" - not correct, if user is playing on exact numbers you can change nonce by one second and generate different outcome so user will lose.

2. For the issue with changing server seed with every bet:
- "if the player doesn't change its seed" so, the only way a user can 100% be sure it's not cheated on this way is to change client seed with every bet?? But even that will not help him because of the first issue.

Why just not confirm that you have two issues, pay fairly bug bounty reward and fix those issues? You are leaving a really bed view of your reputation here.

[lemarin2]

Hauzenberg , it's true that if the house can cheat 1 second , it has two possibilities in its hand , maybe both losers , but anyway they have an edge .
So , whereas the nonce is decided by the client when he clicks on SPIN , the value in itself has less importance than the uncertainty on the correct value within one second .

[decodx]

Hauzenberg , it's true that if the house can cheat 1 second , it has two possibilities in its hand , maybe both losers , but anyway they have an edge .
So , whereas the nonce is decided by the client when he clicks on SPIN , the value in itself has less importance than the uncertainty on the correct value within one second .

Clearly, this in itself is a huge flaw in the system and means that it cannot be promoted as provably fair. The entire concept of "provably fair" is that there is no possibility for the house to cheat, nor is there an advantage over the player (beyond the defined parameters of the house edge).

[Clerza]

Hauzenberg , it's true that if the house can cheat 1 second , it has two possibilities in its hand , maybe both losers , but anyway they have an edge .
So , whereas the nonce is decided by the client when he clicks on SPIN , the value in itself has less importance than the uncertainty on the correct value within one second .

Clearly, this in itself is a huge flaw in the system and means that it cannot be promoted as provably fair. The entire concept of "provably fair" is that there is no possibility for the house to cheat, nor is there an advantage over the player (beyond the defined parameters of the house edge).

hi kid :-)

let this guy have his life.

Sincerely.

a noob.

this is not an advertisement but i do suggest you check out the website below! i use it a lot
https://www.verywellmind.com/best-online-therapy-4691206

[Beparanf]

I will give an honest feedback about the game, First the screen is flashing when the roulette is spinning that cause a bit stress the eyes and its really annoying especially if your eyes is focus on the result of the wheel.

Second there is no max bet cheap available, If ever you have a small portion in your balance, And you to bet it all. You will need to do the math by adding smaller chip count since there's no cap on adding on the board. Usually, your bet bet should max out once you bet already more than your balance but on bitroul, The game will failed to start and you need to reset your bet.

Lastly, add more games if you want to compete on strong casino competitors.

GL!

[toast]

Welcome, how would we know that there's no cheating happening? I haven't tested your website first but I would like to ask is there a hash for every spin we are going to make? and also what are the currencies available in the website?

[kurtbitcoin]

Congrats Pierre, I see that the bug was resolved quickly and players wont be able to cheat your casino anymore.

The Serverseed isnt leaked before the game anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/4SPGtR0.png

link: https://imgur.com/a/uHbIAdF

Lets communicate here in public and rather not in private message anymore. This way you can gain  trust within the community here.

[lemarin2]

 Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

[kurtbitcoin]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

[hauzenberg]

Clearly, this in itself is a huge flaw in the system and means that it cannot be promoted as provably fair. The entire concept of "provably fair" is that there is no possibility for the house to cheat, nor is there an advantage over the player (beyond the defined parameters of the house edge).

Exactly! Thanks god someone understand what is problem here...

@OP I'm waiting payment as well
1AqFo6SDEW1TgK3usTZgE9dQ6LAttHySRD

[kurtbitcoin]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Im writing this message to confirm and make it public to everyone that I received a 250 USD for the server seed leak bug I pointed out for them.

Transaction ID: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Hopefully OP can resolve all other issues that has been found and will be found.

Goodluck to your casino Pierre , wish you all the best!

[Twinkledoe]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Im writing this message to confirm and make it public to everyone that I received a 250 USD for the server seed leak bug I pointed out for them.

Transaction ID: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Hopefully OP can resolve all other issues that has been found and will be found.

Goodluck to your casino Pierre , wish you all the best!

That's a nice payment from them. But if not pointed out early, they may have lost a lot. Anyway, they should run bug bounty program and the rewards should be based on the degree of the bug they found. Hope to see this site prosper as they are willing to pay those who can find bugs on their site.

[arwin100]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Im writing this message to confirm and make it public to everyone that I received a 250 USD for the server seed leak bug I pointed out for them.

Transaction ID: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Hopefully OP can resolve all other issues that has been found and will be found.

Goodluck to your casino Pierre , wish you all the best!

That's a nice payment from them. But if not pointed out early, they may have lost a lot. Anyway, they should run bug bounty program and the rewards should be based on the degree of the bug they found. Hope to see this site prosper as they are willing to pay those who can find bugs on their site.

I don't  know if this option really necessary but if they want to make sure  that  there are possible things that can hurt their platform maybe  running  that is good option to made and good to see that they are paying to someone  who can find a bug so fo this things found unto them  maybe  they should think about  doing it  to make sure that their platform is truly safe from any further holes that might compromise them in future.

[yahoo62278]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Im writing this message to confirm and make it public to everyone that I received a 250 USD for the server seed leak bug I pointed out for them.

Transaction ID: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Hopefully OP can resolve all other issues that has been found and will be found.

Goodluck to your casino Pierre , wish you all the best!

I never asked for money but the admin messaged and offered me money for helping out. I told him credit my account if he wanted and he sent $250 to my account. I'm using it to test the platform more and maybe help find some more bugs.

[kurtbitcoin]

Thank you Kurt .

 Things are going almost fine now .

 Your BTC address was not recognized by coinbase , check it .

Good to hear that.

Coinbase probably doesn't support BECH32 addresses . Im providing another one below.

1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Im writing this message to confirm and make it public to everyone that I received a 250 USD for the server seed leak bug I pointed out for them.

Transaction ID: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1EZh8NT3jam9DjDFVqRVNQkRuR9UJpDmu

Hopefully OP can resolve all other issues that has been found and will be found.

Goodluck to your casino Pierre , wish you all the best!

I never asked for money but the admin messaged and offered me money for helping out. I told him credit my account if he wanted and he sent $250 to my account. I'm using it to test the platform more and maybe help find some more bugs.

@Yahoo62278 I think admin was a little confused on how the bitcoin forum works. You quoted my post where I shared the bug because I couldn't show images in my post. He then private messaged me that you also found the same bug but that I"m first and it seems like you just copied me. I think he decided at the end to split the 500 USD  between the two of us. I was actually supposed to get the 500 USD offered for the bug.

[Mahanton]

@Yahoo62278 I think admin was a little confused on how the bitcoin forum works. You quoted my post where I shared the bug because I couldn't show images in my post. He then private messaged me that you also found the same bug but that I"m first and it seems like you just copied me. I think he decided at the end to split the 500 USD  between the two of us. I was actually supposed to get the 500 USD offered for the bug.

That sucks on that case and i have seen that too and its really just a misunderstanding but i dont doubt that yahoo will be giving back those funds back and as mentioned that he would be using the fund
on testing out the site and the owner might credit you back additional $250 if he do understand the situation. Just try to contact him about this mistake.

[kurtbitcoin]

@Yahoo62278 I think admin was a little confused on how the bitcoin forum works. You quoted my post where I shared the bug because I couldn't show images in my post. He then private messaged me that you also found the same bug but that I"m first and it seems like you just copied me. I think he decided at the end to split the 500 USD  between the two of us. I was actually supposed to get the 500 USD offered for the bug.

That sucks on that case and i have seen that too and its really just a misunderstanding but i dont doubt that yahoo will be giving back those funds back and as mentioned that he would be using the fund
on testing out the site and the owner might credit you back additional $250 if he do understand the situation. Just try to contact him about this mistake.

Thanks , yes hopefully the owner will understand or yahoo since he can use the free coins that are available on the casino to test for bugs etc .
Here"s a little screenshot of the message he sent me https://imgur.com/a/YtgvK3Q

[lemarin2]

  Hello , If Yahoo62278 wants to reset the transfer of bitcoins here is my BTC address :
35nhUzvaT97D5jdKSqEBz88TNtqdQZ3E6G

 Thanks a lot for your honesty .

[lemarin2]

  About the "nonce" in provably fair process .

   I read a lot about that , without finally understand the real efficiency of the nonce in provably fair , worse , sometimes the nonce could be conter productive .

   Is there any risk for the roulette fairness to remove the nonce ? I do not think so and I consider a nonce free Provably fair very soon on BitRoul

[stomachgrowls]

  Hello , If Yahoo62278 wants to reset the transfer of bitcoins here is my BTC address :
35nhUzvaT97D5jdKSqEBz88TNtqdQZ3E6G

 Thanks a lot for your honesty .

You should read a bit and familiarize things on this forum so that you would avoid incidents like this.Just like on what @Mahanton said above there's no doubt that yahoo will be giving it back.

$250 for a test is way too much if we do consider out on finding some bugs.I would be  having that question mark in mind on why someone would be sending out that big just for that purpose.

[Reatim]

This is what happen if you did not conduct at least Bug Finding event before the final release of your site OP as we can see there are flows that coming out little by little and I'm sure there are more to come sooner.

Maybe you really need a Help from the community for your gambling site to go on straight way finding more players .

[Chato1977]

  Hello , If Yahoo62278 wants to reset the transfer of bitcoins here is my BTC address :
35nhUzvaT97D5jdKSqEBz88TNtqdQZ3E6G

 Thanks a lot for your honesty .

You should read a bit and familiarize things on this forum so that you would avoid incidents like this.Just like on what @Mahanton said above there's no doubt that yahoo will be giving it back.

$250 for a test is way too much if we do consider out on finding some bugs.I would be  having that question mark in mind on why someone would be sending out that big just for that purpose.

Lol 250$ is just  a Peanut for yahoo he will immediately send it back once he goes Online as requested by OP.

OP has many things to learn , and good that he is More than willing to cooperate from all of the posts here.


Welcome to the forum BitRoul.com and team.

[imstillthebest]

hello "Im still the best" ,
Your takes are interesting , I will change right now certain phrasings :

don't promise it will last = don't promise the "without commission" will last eternally ,but yes my BitRoul will last forever

oh nice thanks for clarifying it  . that is right you shoud enable comissions because almost all gambling sites have them now  .
 your site will look different and unapealing to some if they didnt find this feature .
in this world we arent guarantee that we can last forever but having a promise that your service can run for a long time can give players a cofidence and more happiness if they enjoy playing in your site .

[lemarin2]

 Just started to put in form the general frame of our T and C .

[decodx]

 About the "nonce" in provably fair process .

   I read a lot about that , without finally understand the real efficiency of the nonce in provably fair , worse , sometimes the nonce could be conter productive .

   Is there any risk for the roulette fairness to remove the nonce ? I do not think so and I consider a nonce free Provably fair very soon on BitRoul

I don't think that makes sense. How will you be able to distinguish individual bets in a provabliy fair manner if there is no nonce?

[yahoo62278]

Just popped on and read through the thread, of course I have no issue returning the funds if they weren't meant for me. I thought he was giving me some money for the 4-5 bugs I had found. Anyhow, as you guys can see in the screenshot, the site isn't letting me wd.



I have tried multiple amounts. .007 .0075 779 700 none of them work, so I need some help on how to withdraw to you @admin

[panjul07]

Just popped on and read through the thread, of course I have no issue returning the funds if they weren't meant for me. I thought he was giving me some money for the 4-5 bugs I had found. Anyhow, as you guys can see in the screenshot, the site isn't letting me wd.

WTF 803BTC, did you win it from the $250 given to you previously and they do not even let you to withdraw 7mbtc?
But wait, is that real balance that you get from playing or something like visual bug because as I can see the notification message tells you that the amount you try to withdraw is higher than your available balance?

[yahoo62278]

Just popped on and read through the thread, of course I have no issue returning the funds if they weren't meant for me. I thought he was giving me some money for the 4-5 bugs I had found. Anyhow, as you guys can see in the screenshot, the site isn't letting me wd.

WTF 803BTC, did you win it from the $250 given to you previously and they do not even let you to withdraw 7mbtc?
But wait, is that real balance that you get from playing or something like visual bug because as I can see the notification message tells you that the amount you try to withdraw is higher than your available balance?

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc. 

[decodx]

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc. 

It is an odd way of denominating balance. So these are neither millibitcoins (mBTC) nor microbitcoins (bits), but something in between?
I would say this is also a flaw.

[yahoo62278]

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc. 

It is an odd way of denominating balance. So these are neither millibitcoins (mBTC) nor microbitcoins (bits), but something in between?
I would say this is also a flaw.

I've pointed out multiple flaws in the OPs site which is why I didn't complain when he sent me a few bucks. Pretty funny he's asking for it back, and I can't even wd discovering yet another flaw.

[rodskee]

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc. 

It is an odd way of denominating balance. So these are neither millibitcoins (mBTC) nor microbitcoins (bits), but something in between?
I would say this is also a flaw.

I've pointed out multiple flaws in the OPs site which is why I didn't complain when he sent me a few bucks. Pretty funny he's asking for it back, and I can't even wd discovering yet another flaw.

I think OP was just confused about what to do , because there are multiple post with different statements in which made him having more thinking on this matter.

But for me personally ? the amount Sent on you are not enough as payments about the Bugs you found , imagine if they will need to pay or conduct bug hunting for this matter? they will spent more than what they had sent you in which Fair for your Work without them asking you.

There are several Site that conduct this kind of event and if i remember it right Even the Famous FortuneJack had conducted Bug Hunting so their site will bug free when starts to re operate.

_______________________________________________

to OP? just consider @yahoo62278's Act of Kindness helping you to Find Bug as rewarded with that Small amount you've sent and a a Token of generosity . and Do the same with others that will help you our finding more bugs sooner.

[ryzaadit]

but is it safe now to play on the BitRoul, I mean it's provably fair right? I would like to try this new website,

Man, stop posting nonsense for your signature and read the latest reply

There are still has several issues, and some of the bugs are really critical from my perspective. If you want to try, then why not trying now rather than posting first then talk gonna try the website. Well, cause you're not really want to trying the site or even read the latest reply to just posting for signature post ~XD

[lemarin2]

 Hello ryzaadit

  You said :"There are still has several issues, and some of the bugs are really critical from my perspective"

  Can you elaborate and describe them ? I reward any bug hunter with real , new bugs .

but is it safe now to play on the BitRoul, I mean it's provably fair right? I would like to try this new website,

Man, stop posting nonsense for your signature and read the latest reply

There are still has several issues, and some of the bugs are really critical from my perspective. If you want to try, then why not trying now rather than posting first then talk gonna try the website. Well, cause you're not really want to trying the site or even read the latest reply to just posting for signature post ~XD

 not interested by a bounty or nothing to declare except BS?

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

[Mahanton]

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc.  

It is an odd way of denominating balance. So these are neither millibitcoins (mBTC) nor microbitcoins (bits), but something in between?
I would say this is also a flaw.

I've pointed out multiple flaws in the OPs site which is why I didn't complain when he sent me a few bucks. Pretty funny he's asking for it back, and I can't even wd discovering yet another flaw.

So it turns out that you deserve even more bug bounty yahoo.  

@OP, yahoo had elaborated those few bugs had been found aside on the one he had qoute out. He deserve much more than on the amount you had sent out.

Better not to ask it to give it back.

[kurtbitcoin]

Just popped on and read through the thread, of course I have no issue returning the funds if they weren't meant for me. I thought he was giving me some money for the 4-5 bugs I had found. Anyhow, as you guys can see in the screenshot, the site isn't letting me wd.

https://i.imgur.com/LjWKYjm.png

WTF 803BTC, did you win it from the $250 given to you previously and they do not even let you to withdraw 7mbtc?
But wait, is that real balance that you get from playing or something like visual bug because as I can see the notification message tells you that the amount you try to withdraw is higher than your available balance?

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc. 

OP you haven't responded to this bug found. What is the minimum withdrawal on your site? Yahoo tried to withdraw 0.007789 btc but it didn't allow while it says 0.0008 is the minimum amount to withdraw.

[lemarin2]

 Hello to you all , I love you .

 What is the point of the situation ?

 Some bugs are fixed , some will be in the very next hours. No client is complaining for his money to have evaporated ,
 The things go their smooth way .


 I continue with your help and my rewards to create a never seen before gambling site .

 Pierre-Peter
 
 

[kurtbitcoin]

Just popped on and read through the thread, of course I have no issue returning the funds if they weren't meant for me. I thought he was giving me some money for the 4-5 bugs I had found. Anyhow, as you guys can see in the screenshot, the site isn't letting me wd.

https://i.imgur.com/LjWKYjm.png

WTF 803BTC, did you win it from the $250 given to you previously and they do not even let you to withdraw 7mbtc?
But wait, is that real balance that you get from playing or something like visual bug because as I can see the notification message tells you that the amount you try to withdraw is higher than your available balance?

When the money was credited to my account I was given a 779 balance. So I assume 1000 coin balance is .01btc.  

OP you haven't responded to this bug found. What is the minimum withdrawal on your site? Yahoo tried to withdraw 0.007789 btc but it didn't allow while it says 0.0008 is the minimum amount to withdraw.

  The software on which is based the BitRoul kinda works like an open source , I mean I take it as it and then I improve it , and certain parts are deeply hidden and must be understoof by my team .
the blockage of the 0.007789 btc to withdraw is quite mysterious at this time . Maybe coming from an anti laundery measure to not exit rapidly amount brought to the site . I dont know , but I am against these kinds of anti laundery fuck off . and of course dear yahoo , it is not personal :-)

The way you present yourself on the forum is really unprofessional, my attitude towards your site is changing. From my perspective it kind of sounds like a scam to me since you don't know a lot about your own site.

I just Googled a part of the text from your website on the provably page
the phrase I googled is
"The sha256(serverseed) is public and set in the client database before the bets .

Just after the spin wheel, we calculate the Sha256(serverseed+clientseed+nonce),then we convert it into decimal numbers.

It starts like : 6745932537... , then we group the numbers two by two :"

By surprise the first website that popped up is https://roul1.com/provably-fair

Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/qc3h5f2.png


Why is this website down? Are you attempting to start another scam so quickly that you didn't have time to fix bugs etc?


BTW: Im not accusing you of running a scam but your dodgy behavior, unpreparedness and another down website points to to that.

[lemarin2]

Roul1 was the first name of BitRoul . BTW you can give your advice on one or the other , I am still in time to change .
I also own : winroul.com , rul1.com and 50 other domain names .

 I am not unprofessional , i Have a long track record of success in the net industry .

 I never pretended that the BitRoul was ready to launch . But never , never any client will be abused . That's my promise .

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

You know the topic I was talking about "Read a few last reply before my post"

Well you already responded to that issue, by seeing the response so "mysterious" is not a good answer + you even don't know what's the problem with that. I'm just saying my 2 cent, good luck with your website and 50+ other 

[lemarin2]

 Hi guys and gals .

   new update of the BitRoul , please hard clean your cache , ( ctrl f5 for windows) .
 
   www.BitRoul.com

  Pierre-Peter

[Bitinity]

.....
Well you already responded to that issue, by seeing the response so "mysterious" is not a good answer + you even don't know what's the problem with that. I'm just saying my 2 cent, good luck with your website and 50+ other 

That's something said/done by professional with long track record of success who own 50+ websites, what a joke lol. Unfortunately, how OP responding and answering to users here (especially the ones who provide important issue related to his website) does not show that he is a professional. By the way, what's the current status of yahoo's withdrawal issue? Is it fixed or still being a mystery which no body knows? 

[bitterguy28]

 I never pretended that the BitRoul was ready to launch . But never , never any client will be abused . That's my promise .

Then You should have Not launched the site from the beginning if you Knew that it was never Ready to.

Because it is your site and also players will suffer from the Bugs that will comes out over the time.

[janggernaut]

Hi guys and gals .

   new update of the BitRoul , please hard clean your cache , ( ctrl f5 for windows) .
 
   www.BitRoul.com

  Pierre-Peter

I can easily visit your site, and the design is quite simple for me. And i noticed you are just offering Roulette game atm, i can't find other games when i search in your site.

1 thing i want to ask, what's the meaning of "1 pc"?

Withdrawing is for the moment free aswell , but in the close future it will bear a 1 pc fee .

[lemarin2]

Hi guys and gals .

   new update of the BitRoul , please hard clean your cache , ( ctrl f5 for windows) .
 
   www.BitRoul.com

  Pierre-Peter

I can easily visit your site, and the design is quite simple for me. And i noticed you are just offering Roulette game atm, i can't find other games when i search in your site.

1 thing i want to ask, what's the meaning of "1 pc"?

Withdrawing is for the moment free aswell , but in the close future it will bear a 1 pc fee .

     Thank you for your balanced review of the BitRoul .
     Its true there is only one game inside , it's on purpouse cause the roulette game can offer certain guaranties of fairness to the player .
   By producing a game hash , before the start of the bets , the possibility of cheating is inexistant or quite close to zero . I could elaborate on demand about "close to zero " .
     also the removal of the zero square from the roulette is a visible proof of the advantage you get to gamble there , on top of the provably fair .

      1 pc means 1 percent here in Europe , but I gonna change it right now into 1 %
      
      The site is now (almost) bugfree after the hard stress we went through these days .

       About the "simple " aspect , it will evolve , but test the BitRoul on mobile phone , then the simple aspect becomes a real upside .

     Peter-Pierre
     www.BitRoul.com
 
 

[LimLims]

1 thing i want to ask, what's the meaning of "1 pc"?

Withdrawing is for the moment free aswell , but in the close future it will bear a 1 pc fee .

Yes many of the gamblers here are from outside Europe, mostly from Asian countries, so it would be great if you guys add something familiar to Asian or universal people.
Moreover congratulations OP for official declaring the site as bug free.
Now you can take some serious notes on running some promotion campaign, as this is the right time to attract potential gamblers.
Wish you all the best for the future Admin.

[Kakmakr]

answer to the yahoo 62278 stress test :

  As it was already declared ,so far  we have not settled any maximum bet size .
  you put the finger where its painful .
 The big size of your bets is the source of the issues .
 The pay out is capped , before next version that will integrate the management of the maximum bet size .
 anyway , even in this circumstance  if you can show that you made the bet , you will be paid accordingly to the general rules of roulette payment that will be added in the Terms and Conditions very soon .

Is this capped for now, because you do not have the money to pay such bets if they win or is this just a "bug" that needs fixing? I know some small sites do this to build up the house to cover "winning streaks" or big Jackpots... right?

In any way, the site is still in beta version.. so you would expect that it will only be a skeleton version of the end product. Looking forward to see the final product in the future.... added it to my favorites under the "under development" directory. 

[lemarin2]

    Thank you Kakmakr for your sweeet words ,
    
     We are up and running , www.BitRoul.com  , try it also by mobile , it's worthy .

     of course we are also "in development" to prepare all the future features , but i can witness a lot of players have , in silence ,earned money by gambling these days .

 Pierre-Peter

[janggernaut]

      1 pc means 1 percent here in Europe , but I gonna change it right now into 1 %
      
      The site is now (almost) bugfree after the hard stress we went through these days .

       About the "simple " aspect , it will evolve , but test the BitRoul on mobile phone , then the simple aspect becomes a real upside .

     Peter-Pierre
     www.BitRoul.com

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

[lemarin2]

      1 pc means 1 percent here in Europe , but I gonna change it right now into 1 %
      
      The site is now (almost) bugfree after the hard stress we went through these days .

       About the "simple " aspect , it will evolve , but test the BitRoul on mobile phone , then the simple aspect becomes a real upside .

     Peter-Pierre
     www.BitRoul.com

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

 for whales the rate is tailored .
 and yes , we are not satisfied with this 1% , working to lower it .

[nakamura12]

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

I don't know if this is good for a small time gambler and also to decent gamblers with their 1% withdrawal fee. I haven't check their site yet but I am going to do it later and see if it is within my liking of a gambling site. Anyway, I don't gamble that much but I do spend some time to have some fun or get entertained.

[stomachgrowls]

~snip~

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

This will surely be avoided by big players or whales.Imagine on winning or withdrawing $100k and need to pay $1000 for the fee alone.Is this something look appealing? No its not.

Its understandable that getting some commission on fees but it shouldnt really be that high because fees itself arent really that expensive and this will end up to be a main complaint.

Put some dynamic and try to focus more on promotions rather than getting profits through fees which is typically high compared to the current competition.

[lemarin2]

~snip~

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

This will surely be avoided by big players or whales.Imagine on winning or withdrawing $100k and need to pay $1000 for the fee alone.Is this something look appealing? No its not.

Its understandable that getting some commission on fees but it shouldnt really be that high because fees itself arent really that expensive and this will end up to be a main complaint.

Put some dynamic and try to focus more on promotions rather than getting profits through fees which is typically high compared to the current competition.

  I don't look to make money on withdrawing , I  just follow my contractor price : 0.5 % in and 0.5 % out , that I restructure into : 0 % in and 1% out .

[decodx]

What puzzles me is that, although you claim the platform is bug-free, we still haven't seen confirmation from Yahoo that the funds have been successfully withdrawn.
So, my question is: does withdrawal work?

[rodskee]

~snip~

1% as withdrawal fee can make people who want withdraw huge balance got higher fee. Let say i want to withdraw 0.001 btc , so the fee is 0.00001 or 1000 sats. While other people who want withdraw 1 btc, so the fee is 0.01 btc or 1 million satoshis, i don't think whales will like that.

This will surely be avoided by big players or whales.Imagine on winning or withdrawing $100k and need to pay $1000 for the fee alone.Is this something look appealing? No its not.

Its understandable that getting some commission on fees but it shouldnt really be that high because fees itself arent really that expensive and this will end up to be a main complaint.

Put some dynamic and try to focus more on promotions rather than getting profits through fees which is typically high compared to the current competition.

  I don't look to make money on withdrawing , I  just follow my contractor price : 0.5 % in and 0.5 % out , that I restructure into : 0 % in and 1% out .

Then re evaluate your contractors deal with you because it is not appealing to a Visiting gamblers experiencing this Huge fee when other good site does not have the same option.

1% is not that small amount to pay considering that gamblers might lose big in their attempt on winning and when they finally win there is a need for this amount to be paid.

Just try to put your feet in Gamblers shoe to what you will feel having this.

[magneto]

Hmm, interesting.

I personally don't mind the fact that there is a withdrawal fee of 1%. If your gambling volume is high then it's actually a much better deal for you.

Even if you just turn over your balance once, you're essentially playing roulette at the house edge of dice which is not a bad deal whatsoever. However, I do agree that the site aesthetics needs work and reputation needs to be built before whales are comfortable with playing here.

[lemarin2]

What puzzles me is that, although you claim the platform is bug-free, we still haven't seen confirmation from Yahoo that the funds have been successfully withdrawn.
So, my question is: does withdrawal work?

of course it works .

[lemarin2]

Hmm, interesting.

I personally don't mind the fact that there is a withdrawal fee of 1%. If your gambling volume is high then it's actually a much better deal for you.

Even if you just turn over your balance once, you're essentially playing roulette at the house edge of dice which is not a bad deal whatsoever. However, I do agree that the site aesthetics needs work and reputation needs to be built before whales are comfortable with playing here.

  Good News , The 1 % fee for withdrawal is removed .

                     Now to Withdraw : minimum balance 0.0008 BTX  . TRX (Transaction fee) fixed at 0.0004 BTC and that's it .

                      Enjoy

    Pierre-Peter

[decodx]

What puzzles me is that, although you claim the platform is bug-free, we still haven't seen confirmation from Yahoo that the funds have been successfully withdrawn.
So, my question is: does withdrawal work?

of course it works .

Considering that you addressed the issue with the following, you can understand my concern:

The software on which is based the BitRoul kinda works like an open source , I mean I take it as it and then I improve it , and certain parts are deeply hidden and must be understoof by my team .
the blockage of the 0.007789 btc to withdraw is quite mysterious at this time ...

So you managed to figure it out? That's great, but I'll still wait for yahoo to confirm it. No offense. 

[lemarin2]

What puzzles me is that, although you claim the platform is bug-free, we still haven't seen confirmation from Yahoo that the funds have been successfully withdrawn.
So, my question is: does withdrawal work?

of course it works .

Considering that you addressed the issue with the following, you can understand my concern:

The software on which is based the BitRoul kinda works like an open source , I mean I take it as it and then I improve it , and certain parts are deeply hidden and must be understoof by my team .
the blockage of the 0.007789 btc to withdraw is quite mysterious at this time ...

So you managed to figure it out? That's great, but I'll still wait for yahoo to confirm it. No offense.  

No problem , ask him . He will answer that I wanted to buy his account , so I payed him for his account . This has nothing to do with the withdraw .
Yahoo gave me a merit as you can see on the menu page of gambling , here .

   Now if you want to test the withdraw , I would be delighted to assist you .
   Publicly .
   Are you ok ?

[yahoo62278]

I can confirm I was able to get my money but not via a normal wd. The owner transferred me most of my balance and closed my account.

[fullhdpixel]

Is this capped for now, because you do not have the money to pay such bets if they win or is this just a "bug" that needs fixing? I know some small sites do this to build up the house to cover "winning streaks" or big Jackpots... right?

In any way, the site is still in beta version.. so you would expect that it will only be a skeleton version of the end product. Looking forward to see the final product in the future.... added it to my favorites under the "under development" directory. 

It could 90%+ be about that, but we could probably have hot wallet / cold wallet situations even in the biggest of casinos as well. I remember a guy who won 150 bitcoins at a very high level place before (it is one of the top casinos in here) and that ended up not getting paid all at once because hot wallet was nearly empty, so the guy had to withdraw a bit one day, and another bit the next day and another on third day to get all of it out.

This place seems like the classic "good developer bad marketing" place, it is definitely looking good, it definitely works well, as far as I am concerned whoever made this website is a good developer (and either a good designer or worked with one) but you can create the greatest casino in the entire world and it would mean nothing if the marketing is not at least as good, I have seen worse places get a lot more attention just because they had a huge marketing budget.

[lemarin2]

I can confirm I was able to get my money but not via a normal wd. The owner transferred me most of my balance and closed my account.

Thank you . I transferred you in three times more or less your balance : 0.0084 BTC

[decodx]

I can confirm I was able to get my money but not via a normal wd. The owner transferred me most of my balance and closed my account.

Thank you . I transferred you in three times more or less your balance : 0.0084 BTC

OK. So there is still no conclusive evidence that onsite withdrawal actually works? That's kind of a big deal, isn't it?

[kotajikikox]

Hmm, interesting.

I personally don't mind the fact that there is a withdrawal fee of 1%. If your gambling volume is high then it's actually a much better deal for you.

Even if you just turn over your balance once, you're essentially playing roulette at the house edge of dice which is not a bad deal whatsoever. However, I do agree that the site aesthetics needs work and reputation needs to be built before whales are comfortable with playing here.

  Good News , The 1 % fee for withdrawal is removed .

                     Now to Withdraw : minimum balance 0.0008 BTX  . TRX (Transaction fee) fixed at 0.0004 BTC and that's it .

                      Enjoy

    Pierre-Peter

Nice update if I'm not mistaken other site like Futuur has this 0,0004 bitcoin per withdrawal if using Bitcoin and much lower if Altcoins so Yeah this is Enough for every players either high roller or small roller like me.

I can confirm I was able to get my money but not via a normal wd. The owner transferred me most of my balance and closed my account.

Thank you . I transferred you in three times more or less your balance : 0.0084 BTC

Really ? x3 of the supposed amount? that is Generosity lol, Knowing @yahoo62278 is a High roller gambler and your site will benefits from His love for gambling .

[dextershop]

hi. Exists any proof of funds?

[yahoo62278]

Hmm, interesting.

I personally don't mind the fact that there is a withdrawal fee of 1%. If your gambling volume is high then it's actually a much better deal for you.

Even if you just turn over your balance once, you're essentially playing roulette at the house edge of dice which is not a bad deal whatsoever. However, I do agree that the site aesthetics needs work and reputation needs to be built before whales are comfortable with playing here.

  Good News , The 1 % fee for withdrawal is removed .

                     Now to Withdraw : minimum balance 0.0008 BTX  . TRX (Transaction fee) fixed at 0.0004 BTC and that's it .

                      Enjoy

    Pierre-Peter

Nice update if I'm not mistaken other site like Futuur has this 0,0004 bitcoin per withdrawal if using Bitcoin and much lower if Altcoins so Yeah this is Enough for every players either high roller or small roller like me.

I can confirm I was able to get my money but not via a normal wd. The owner transferred me most of my balance and closed my account.

Thank you . I transferred you in three times more or less your balance : 0.0084 BTC

Really ? x3 of the supposed amount? that is Generosity lol, Knowing @yahoo62278 is a High roller gambler and your site will benefits from His love for gambling .

No he didn't send 3x the wd amount. He sent 3 different transactions that came close to a full cashout.

[panjul07]

No he didn't send 3x the wd amount. He sent 3 different transactions that came close to a full cashout.

It is strange why he needs to process your withdrawal in 3 different transactions especially it is not that big amount.
My question, are those 3 transactions been sent from 3 different addresses or from 1 address only?
I believe this makes most people wonder about the bankroll and will all withdrawal be processed this way (in several transactions)?

I report your message to the moderator .

Feel free to report, it is your right to report any posts, you do not even to tell me if you want to report it.
I suggest you to create moderated thread so you can delete any posts that you dont like on your thread as you wish.

[lemarin2]

No he didn't send 3x the wd amount. He sent 3 different transactions that came close to a full cashout.

It is strange why he needs to process your withdrawal in 3 different transactions especially it is not that big amount.
My question, are those 3 transactions been sent from 3 different addresses or from 1 address only?
I believe this makes most people wonder about the bankroll and will all withdrawal be processed this way (in several transactions)?

  As said , this transfer of money is not a withdrawal , it is a buy out of Yahoo account , negociated with him , in the conditions that we are free to have , even for very small amounts .

   I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

[kurtbitcoin]

No he didn't send 3x the wd amount. He sent 3 different transactions that came close to a full cashout.

It is strange why he needs to process your withdrawal in 3 different transactions especially it is not that big amount.
My question, are those 3 transactions been sent from 3 different addresses or from 1 address only?
I believe this makes most people wonder about the bankroll and will all withdrawal be processed this way (in several transactions)?

  As said , this transfer of money is not a withdrawal , it is a buy out of Yahoo account , negociated with him , in the conditions that we are free to have , even for very small amounts .

   I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

I don't think that he accused you for anything. They just want to know what is your bankroll if you have one. In other words do you have capital that your starting with? For example, if someone deposits into your website, how can they be assured that once they win some money or want to withdraw that you'll have enough money to pay them. This can be done by signing an address that holds your bitcoin, thus showing proof that it's your wallet. You can do a little more research on how to do that. This can give people confidence to gamble on your website.

[lemarin2]

  

                  Hello everyone ! nice to speak with you about the BitRoul , BitRoul.com , also available on mobile , yes try it , very user friendly .

                  100 % RTP , yes a bit crazy , thanks to a no zero Roulette , and a very good Provably Fair* , you can fight head to head with luck and fortune .

                   *For those who are not familiar with Provably Fair , please get aware . This is the means to avoid the Casino house to cheat at its advantage ,
                   so , you are really 50/50 with the Roulette .    

                

[janggernaut]

                  Hello everyone ! nice to speak with you about the BitRoul , BitRoul.com , also available on mobile , yes try it , very user friendly .

                  100 % RTP , yes a bit crazy , thanks to a no zero Roulette , and a very good Provably Fair* , you can fight head to head with luck and fortune .

                   *For those who are not familiar with Provably Fair , please get aware . This is the means to avoid the Casino house to cheat at its advantage ,
                   so , you are really 50/50 with the Roulette .    

How long the 100% RTP you will offer? It must be not forever since you need to make profit for your site too by add house edge (or your site will bankrupt later).

[decodx]

How long the 100% RTP you will offer? It must be not forever since you need to make profit for your site too by add house edge (or your site will bankrupt later).

I think he plans to make a profit on the withdrawal fee. I'm not sure if it will work, though.

   I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

It's up to you to report, it's your right. However, the moderators will not delete posts if they do not violate forum rules - and I do not see that in this case.

[Reatim]

No he didn't send 3x the wd amount. He sent 3 different transactions that came close to a full cashout.

It is strange why he needs to process your withdrawal in 3 different transactions especially it is not that big amount.
My question, are those 3 transactions been sent from 3 different addresses or from 1 address only?
I believe this makes most people wonder about the bankroll and will all withdrawal be processed this way (in several transactions)?

  As said , this transfer of money is not a withdrawal , it is a buy out of Yahoo account , negociated with him , in the conditions that we are free to have , even for very small amounts .

It is best to answer like this mate because it is normal that people here will question your activities here and there because Majority of us gambles even if we are not a regular yet we gamble and interested in which site will pop and takes our interest.

  I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

So please never do this things mate, reporting post that only think of different from your perspective will make your site and you as guilty of something.

try to keep your attitude low ,  because clearing everything in right manner will also brings you positive looks from all visitors of your ANN thread.

[shield132]

No Zero , no Cheat , a very solid (for the player ) Provably Fair feature .

Zero isn't a cheat in roulette, the same applies to no zero roulette too. And I don't understand what does it means, a very solid provably fair feature for the player? Is there any casino-oriented Provably Fair system? I didn't find it in FAQs but the game sure would have set the RTP, otherwise, 0% house edge for the casino is a sure loss. The only advantage that I can see here is that probably it will have a better chance of win compared to the zero or two zero roulettes but the disadvantage is that some people don't think about the RTP and these words blindly attract them.

[lemarin2]

No Zero , no Cheat , a very solid (for the player ) Provably Fair feature .

Zero isn't a cheat in roulette, the same applies to no zero roulette too. And I don't understand what does it means, a very solid provably fair feature for the player? Is there any casino-oriented Provably Fair system? I didn't find it in FAQs but the game sure would have set the RTP, otherwise, 0% house edge for the casino is a sure loss. The only advantage that I can see here is that probably it will have a better chance of win compared to the zero or two zero roulettes but the disadvantage is that some people don't think about the RTP and these words blindly attract them.

  The cheat is not the zero , the cheat can be the draw that must be fairly randomized , and even some provably fair can have some holes in the net .
  
  The aim of Bitroul is to charge one day a commission . But for the moment it's not the case , so have fun for ... statically free .

[janggernaut]

How long the 100% RTP you will offer? It must be not forever since you need to make profit for your site too by add house edge (or your site will bankrupt later).

I think he plans to make a profit on the withdrawal fee. I'm not sure if it will work, though.

Nope, as they lowered the withdrawal fee from 1% to 0.0008 btc for bitcoin and 0.0004 btc for TRX withdrawal, which i think similar with other gambling sites.

   I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

So please never do this things mate, reporting post that only think of different from your perspective will make your site and you as guilty of something.

try to keep your attitude low ,  because clearing everything in right manner will also brings you positive looks from all visitors of your ANN thread.

If the post has low quality or spam post, obviously they can report it whatever they want. We know yahoo has been paid in full amount and he was admit it by himself, so what's the point asking from where the money came from? Doesn't make any sense.

[lemarin2]

How long the 100% RTP you will offer? It must be not forever since you need to make profit for your site too by add house edge (or your site will bankrupt later).

I think he plans to make a profit on the withdrawal fee. I'm not sure if it will work, though.

Nope, as they lowered the withdrawal fee from 1% to 0.0008 btc for bitcoin and 0.0004 btc for TRX withdrawal, which i think similar with other gambling sites.

  I report to the moderator your message as being fallacious .

So please never do this things mate, reporting post that only think of different from your perspective will make your site and you as guilty of something.

try to keep your attitude low ,  because clearing everything in right manner will also brings you positive looks from all visitors of your ANN thread.

If the post has low quality or spam post, obviously they can report it whatever they want. We know yahoo has been paid in full amount and he was admit it by himself, so what's the point asking from where the money came from? Doesn't make any sense.

    Thanks for your contribution .

    About the withdrawal condtions let me summerize :

    - No percentage fee . Only a 0.0004 Btc  TRX.
    - The minimum amount to whithdraw is 0.0008 BTC . It's not a fee .


     -

[lemarin2]

  

      Hi there , the version 2.0 of the Bitroul is there .

      You can test the game even without an account , as a guest .

      More user friendly , more fun and always 100 % Return to player .

      Enjoy .

       www.BitRoul.com

[lemarin2]

   and always bounties for bugs found .
   try if you can

[lemarin2]

  Hello All ,

       Just issued the version 3.0 of the Bit Roul .

       www.BitRoul.com
      
       New Features include a unique Roulette machinegun style draw , and a Provably fair with emails to check everything by real time emails .
       Unique over the net .
       Play for fun or for real cryptos .
       and always :
       No zero , so a 100 RTP return to Player , the payout for the gains better than a regular roulette with zero(s).

       Have a good and lucky day .

       Peter

[DoublerHunter]

^ I tried to visit your casino and log in as a guest.
I really enjoyed with the roulette game, even though I am a guess player still can able to get a correct hash?
By the way, I just want to back my previous bet and check the provably fair generated, but it seems there is no function on this kind of feature, how can we validate our previous bet?
Another question, is the maximum bet is always 10 chips? or it will different when I registered and deposit my own fund.

[lemarin2]

  Hi , Nice to read from you double hunter .

   Playing as a guest doesn't necessitate to create an account , but you cannot memorize what you have gambled .
   Also as a simple guest you cannot receive emails that demonstrate the strength of our Porvably fair .
  
   So next time , please create an account , you receive fun money - ROUL1 - etc ...

[lemarin2]

     WIN 100 USD with fun money .

     goto  www.bitroul.com
     create an account
     you receive 10000 Roul1 for free
     Gamble , and make your account up to 360001 Roul1
     The 100 Usd are for you
      send an email to peter@bitroul.com
      Only one win by player .

      Peter

[lemarin2]

   one player won 100 usd yesterday at our special offer , maybe it s not a lot , but the target is not easy .

   Happily the gambling was for free  

   www.BitRoul.com

[yahoo62278]

Why does it tell me I  am beyond bet limit? Will not let me bet above 100. Be a long journey to 360001 with low limits in place, prob not many will wanna try.

[lemarin2]

right , I change the limits .

[RussianEnglishTranslation]

 

                  Hello everyone ! nice to speak with you about the BitRoul , BitRoul.com , also available on mobile , yes try it , very user friendly .

                  100 % RTP , yes a bit crazy , thanks to a no zero Roulette , and a very good Provably Fair* , you can fight head to head with luck and fortune .

                   *For those who are not familiar with Provably Fair , please get aware . This is the means to avoid the Casino house to cheat at its advantage ,
                   so , you are really 50/50 with the Roulette .    

                

Is the casino only roulette? I hope there are other games available because there are many other casinos that offer roulette plus cards, slots, racing etc. like MixerCasino and Betcrypt365. What am I missing here?

[lemarin2]

  
                   yes you are missing one essential thing : BitRoul is a NO ZERO roulette which is unique .
                   if the roulette has no zero , the odds for the player are 3 pc up on each round .

                   www.BitRoul.com

                  and no BitRoul is not a casino site and yes it has only one game .

[lemarin2]

       New Rule !

       Win 100 USD .

       www.bitroul.com

        Create an account , login .
        You receive 10000 Roul1 of fun money .

        Gamble and turn them into 20001 Roul1

        Limit of 350 chips gained by round .

[lebregone]

I think you should make a good impression by designing your ANN thread honestly I was not really attractive at first and have a second doubt on checking your website but I can tell it's fun to play on your website when I test your free demo and I really do like your website, it's simple but really entertaining. Is there an option where I can click double bet or divide bet to two or automatic spin and bet?

[lemarin2]

    Thank you so much .

    The feature of doubling the bet can be added , yes .

[lemarin2]

          Try our very exciting feature "Turbo Spin" and earn 100 USD

           With fun money or real cryptos

           www.BitRoul.com

[dustboy]

          Try our very exciting feature "Turbo Spin" and earn 100 USD

           With fun money or real cryptos

           www.BitRoul.com

Please give more information about the "earn 100USD". Once I open your website there is a big notification message about this. It says:

WIN 100 USD
CREATE AN ACCOUNT YOU RECEIVE 10000 CHIPS....OF ROUL1 FOR FREE.... GAMBLE AND MAKE 20001 CHIPS OF ROUL1.PETER(@)BITROUL.COM

Are you giving away 100USD to anyone who can make 20001 Roul1 chip (first come first serve) or any players will get 100USD each? Or it is like a prizepool which will be divided to all players who can complete the task? Once we did it, we should report it by email and what we need to write in the email? Screenshot or username only?

[lemarin2]

      Hello dustboy

     It's any player reaching the target of 20001 Roul1 who will receive 100 USD
    
     You have to be logged into your account .

     Win 100 USD
  
      www.bitroul.com
    
      Good luck

[john_nautica]

Just to make it clear, when we signed up we are going to receive free 10000 free chips and if we make it 20001 we are going to receive real $100? and we can withdraw it after receiving? it seems like a good promotion, I would like to participate on it all I have to do is to create an account right?

[dustboy]

Just to make it clear, when we signed up we are going to receive free 10000 free chips and if we make it 20001 we are going to receive real $100? and we can withdraw it after receiving? it seems like a good promotion, I would like to participate on it all I have to do is to create an account right?

It looks so easy to get 20001 chips with 10000 starting chips but in fact it is so hard because of the max allowed amount to bet on the game. I tried several bets with 300-500chips but the system does not accept the bets. It is allowed to bet 200chips on red/black or odd/even, but it is not even allowed to bet 25chips on single number. I guess the max winning limit on single is no more than 200chips.

[mardaed]

Just to make it clear, when we signed up we are going to receive free 10000 free chips and if we make it 20001 we are going to receive real $100? and we can withdraw it after receiving? it seems like a good promotion, I would like to participate on it all I have to do is to create an account right?

It looks so easy to get 20001 chips with 10000 starting chips but in fact it is so hard because of the max allowed amount to bet on the game. I tried several bets with 300-500chips but the system does not accept the bets. It is allowed to bet 200chips on red/black or odd/even, but it is not even allowed to bet 25chips on single number. I guess the max winning limit on single is no more than 200chips.

Yes that's the challenge I thought first that I can place it all in one bet to have a quicker result. It's not problem for me to play for a long time since I'm not losing anyway and besides I would be able to test out the website and probably can give feedback what they can improve on their website for the hours of playing.

[timerland]

Just to make it clear, when we signed up we are going to receive free 10000 free chips and if we make it 20001 we are going to receive real $100? and we can withdraw it after receiving? it seems like a good promotion, I would like to participate on it all I have to do is to create an account right?

It looks so easy to get 20001 chips with 10000 starting chips but in fact it is so hard because of the max allowed amount to bet on the game. I tried several bets with 300-500chips but the system does not accept the bets. It is allowed to bet 200chips on red/black or odd/even, but it is not even allowed to bet 25chips on single number. I guess the max winning limit on single is no more than 200chips.

I mean, fair enough.

They weren't just going to give out money for free by any means. And they're just leveraging the fact that there is no zero and hence not too much chance at a large odd payout.

But it's still zero house edge at the end of the day. Can't complain about that.

[michellee]

Just to make it clear, when we signed up we are going to receive free 10000 free chips and if we make it 20001 we are going to receive real $100? and we can withdraw it after receiving? it seems like a good promotion, I would like to participate on it all I have to do is to create an account right?

It looks so easy to get 20001 chips with 10000 starting chips but in fact it is so hard because of the max allowed amount to bet on the game. I tried several bets with 300-500chips but the system does not accept the bets. It is allowed to bet 200chips on red/black or odd/even, but it is not even allowed to bet 25chips on single number. I guess the max winning limit on single is no more than 200chips.

Yes that's the challenge I thought first that I can place it all in one bet to have a quicker result. It's not problem for me to play for a long time since I'm not losing anyway and besides I would be able to test out the website and probably can give feedback what they can improve on their website for the hours of playing.

As long as you do not deposit more money to win, that will not be a problem because some gamblers will deposit their money to win the chance. 10k chips are big, so spending all of the chip amounts will take a long time if we only use small bets. But it will not be easy to win and get 20001 chips as the other members will try the same as our chance to win will not be too big. So maybe we can only play and have fun and not think about the win big money because who knows, we can win that big money by coincidentally.

[sam00]

Your offer of 100$ is really tempting, however only being able to win 200coins in one round makes it really hard and time consuming to reach the 20001 coins I will try playing a bit more later this day and see if I can figure something out 

[lemarin2]

     Gentlewomen and Gentlemen ,


     I ease the contest :

     The target is now 15001 Roul1 to reach (down from 20001 !)

     There can be several winners , the 100 USD are for each one (not shared)

      Create an account , login and gamble with the free 10000 Roul1
    
      Good luck to you.

      
       www.BitRoul.com

      Peter
      Founder of BitRoul.com

[dustboy]

I have just noticed that you send email about fairness verification for each bet. The more bets I made, the more emails I get. Is there any ways to stop this email? It is annoying for me to get email for every bet I made in your site. Having those information under the bet history is enough, so players can check the fairness of each bet without opening their mailbox.

[lemarin2]

   Hello Dust , yes it is possible to stop this emailing .
   Go to the tab Provably Fair and then email of Verification and then uncheck the box .

   The unrivaled advantage of the emails is that you freeze the data in real time , really impossible for the casino (our side) tu cheat the draw .


   www.BitRoul.com

   Peter
   founder of the BitRoul

[abuzmaster]

 challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

[panjul07]

challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

Nice and congrats for completing the target on the challenge, hope you'll get the prize soon and let us know once you received it.
@lemarin2: Why didn't you create a thread at the Games and rounds board for this promotion?
When will the this promo end do you have a limit on how many players will be rewarded $100 each?

[lemarin2]

challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

   Hello Abuzmaster , congratulations .

   As stated in the T and C :      https://bitroul.com/term-and-condition :
   Please follow the procedure , and email to me : peter@BitRoul.com  withe the name and pwd of your Bitroul account as a matter of verification .
    Thanks

   .

[abuzmaster]

challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

   Hello Abuzmaster , congratulations .

   As stated in the T and C :      https://bitroul.com/term-and-condition :
   Please follow the procedure , and email to me : peter@BitRoul.com  withe the name and pwd of your Bitroul account as a matter of verification .
    Thanks

   .

done email sent ty for answer

[sam00]

challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

   Hello Abuzmaster , congratulations .

   As stated in the T and C :      https://bitroul.com/term-and-condition :
   Please follow the procedure , and email to me : peter@BitRoul.com  withe the name and pwd of your Bitroul account as a matter of verification .
    Thanks

   .

Are you actually asking players for their passwords in order to receive their promotion while at the same time some players cant change it? So you want them to leak their password?

[lemarin2]

challenge done


 ty for contest
also when i try to change password error appear "something went wrong "
also some bets return "Server SeedThe Server Seed is not disclosed at this time.

   Hello Abuzmaster , congratulations .

   As stated in the T and C :      https://bitroul.com/term-and-condition :
   Please follow the procedure , and email to me : peter@BitRoul.com  withe the name and pwd of your Bitroul account as a matter of verification .
    Thanks

   .

Are you actually asking players for their passwords in order to receive their promotion while at the same time some players cant change it? So you want them to leak their password?

   Sorry , I don't get what you mean . I only ask for the pwd of the BitRoul account to check he is the real owner , sent under PM  peter@bitroul.com

[sam00]

  Sorry , I don't get what you mean . I only ask for the pwd of the BitRoul account to check he is the real owner , sent under PM  peter@bitroul.com

A user above reported that he could not change his password. Why not verify through another way? Asking users for their passwords on your site is really unprofessional imho.

[Bitinity]

  Sorry , I don't get what you mean . I only ask for the pwd of the BitRoul account to check he is the real owner , sent under PM  peter@bitroul.com

A user above reported that he could not change his password. Why not verify through another way? Asking users for their passwords on your site is really unprofessional imho.

Asking player the password to prove that he is the real owner is a bit strange indeed, at least I've never seen other sites did the same thing. Bitroul ask player to send an email from the registered email of the account is more than enough imo. By the way, the player abuzmaster seems to have sent the information to bitroul, lets see what will happen next. Frankly speaking, I feel that the terms of asking password is added recently after someone able to reach 15001 from 10000 chips because it shown in the terms and condition page is updated on September 25^th while he updated the target for the challenge (from 20001 to 15001) on October 7^th. Did bitroul forget to update the date?

[lemarin2]

      Win 100 USD !

     Already 6 winners at the contest .
 
     We close it at 8 winners .

     www.BitRoul.com

      Peter@BitRoul.com

     

[ultrloa]

  Sorry , I don't get what you mean . I only ask for the pwd of the BitRoul account to check he is the real owner , sent under PM  peter@bitroul.com

A user above reported that he could not change his password. Why not verify through another way? Asking users for their passwords on your site is really unprofessional imho.

Asking player the password to prove that he is the real owner is a bit strange indeed, at least I've never seen other sites did the same thing. Bitroul ask player to send an email from the registered email of the account is more than enough imo. By the way, the player abuzmaster seems to have sent the information to bitroul, lets see what will happen next. Frankly speaking, I feel that the terms of asking password is added recently after someone able to reach 15001 from 10000 chips because it shown in the terms and condition page is updated on September 25^th while he updated the target for the challenge (from 20001 to 15001) on October 7^th. Did bitroul forget to update the date?

Its strange why they go to that matter asking password to the players is kinda shady also with exchanging the terms when someone asking nor claiming for an issue regarding on this matter I would not risk anything on this site while I have doubts towards this issue. Also I don't think they will miss to update the date but maybe they do that intentionally to confuse their player that they have the rule implemented regarding on that situation.

[lemarin2]

     to ultraloa and bitinity .

     didn't you notice that to loginto any site the pwd is required ? that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be
     identified ?
     oh no you are so stupid .

     Peter

[sam00]

     to ultraloa and bitinity .

     didn't you notice that to loginto any site the pwd is required ? that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be
     identified ?
     oh no you are so stupid .

     Peter

Being identified and giving out your one chosen password are two completely different things and calling people who are giving you constructive criticism "so stupid" is even more unprofessional than you have been so far lol
So far you are probably doing your best to have people avoid playing with real money on your site!

[dustboy]

Already 6 winners at the contest .

One of them must be abuzmaster. @abuzmazter: would you please confirm that you got the 100 USDT?

Being identified and giving out your one chosen password are two completely different things and calling people who are giving you constructive criticism "so stupid" is even more unprofessional than you have been so far lol
So far you are probably doing your best to have people avoid playing with real money on your site!

Kind of person who is not open for criticism or negative feedback. I agree that the thing about password and username to verify account ownership is weird but it is really bad to see the OP reply it harshly. I am wondering how if there is a complain from real players? Will he say to them that the players are stupid?

[Benismail01]

Challenge completed : https://imgur.com/a/7ekemUd

[abuzmaster]

Already 6 winners at the contest .

One of them must be abuzmaster. @abuzmazter: would you please confirm that you got the 100 USDT?

not yet still no funds
will update once received 

[lemarin2]

Already 6 winners at the contest .

One of them must be abuzmaster. @abuzmazter: would you please confirm that you got the 100 USDT?

not yet still no funds
will update once received  

   Abuzmaster and Benismail are the same player .

   A winner can only win once .
  
   he has been paid 100 USD

   Peter

[michellee]

  Sorry , I don't get what you mean . I only ask for the pwd of the BitRoul account to check he is the real owner , sent under PM  peter@bitroul.com

A user above reported that he could not change his password. Why not verify through another way? Asking users for their passwords on your site is really unprofessional imho.

Asking player the password to prove that he is the real owner is a bit strange indeed, at least I've never seen other sites did the same thing. Bitroul ask player to send an email from the registered email of the account is more than enough imo. By the way, the player abuzmaster seems to have sent the information to bitroul, lets see what will happen next. Frankly speaking, I feel that the terms of asking password is added recently after someone able to reach 15001 from 10000 chips because it shown in the terms and condition page is updated on September 25^th while he updated the target for the challenge (from 20001 to 15001) on October 7^th. Did bitroul forget to update the date?

Its strange why they go to that matter asking password to the players is kinda shady also with exchanging the terms when someone asking nor claiming for an issue regarding on this matter I would not risk anything on this site while I have doubts towards this issue. Also I don't think they will miss to update the date but maybe they do that intentionally to confuse their player that they have the rule implemented regarding on that situation.

Usually, when someone forgets his password, he can click on the Forget Password and that button is available on the site.
He only needs to write his email and then the site sends a link to change the old password with a new one without asking password the players. In the other scenario, when other people asking a password to change, he can do that by clicking the button but as long as the real owner does not click the link in his email, the password will not change. If that user is already asking password and fills in what it needs, we can wait for the reply from that user and hopefully, that can solve his problem without anything else.

     to ultraloa and bitinity .

     didn't you notice that to loginto any site the pwd is required ? that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be
     identified ?
     oh no you are so stupid .

     Peter

I think that sentence needs to delete.

[abuzmaster]

Already 6 winners at the contest .

One of them must be abuzmaster. @abuzmazter: would you please confirm that you got the 100 USDT?

not yet still no funds
will update once received  

   Abuzmaster and Benismail are the same player .

   A winner can only win once .
  
   he has been paid 100 USD

   Peter

wow .....sorry mate but you are wrong Benismail is a friend of mine i shared the promo with him  .. he joined and did well i can show you proof of our conversation if you want  there is no way that i have used another account from my devices the only i have is abuzmaster even for my friend i did not help him to win or to create the account he did the job by himself not because he is using "master" in his nickname mean we are the same person if you don't believe me will share the proof here in public   

[hello_good_sir]

Abuzmaster and Benismail are the same player .

   A winner can only win once .
 
   he has been paid 100 USD

   Peter

This is the problem with running these promos for anonymous users is that they will get abused, but you have very little chance to prove it conclusively that people have cheated.

I think that unless you have conclusive proof, you should pay out these winners for the promos.

In the future, perhaps lower the stakes so that even if you have to pay out you don't have to pay out as much (and hence don't need to worry as much about cheaters).

[lemarin2]

Abuzmaster and Benismail are the same player .

   A winner can only win once .
  
   he has been paid 100 USD

   Peter

This is the problem with running these promos for anonymous users is that they will get abused, but you have very little chance to prove it conclusively that people have cheated.

I think that unless you have conclusive proof, you should pay out these winners for the promos.

In the future, perhaps lower the stakes so that even if you have to pay out you don't have to pay out as much (and hence don't need to worry as much about cheaters).

   True : the reward was too high .
  

   Peter

   Proud Founder of www.BitRoul.com

[abuzmaster]

Abuzmaster and Benismail are the same player .

   A winner can only win once .
 
   he has been paid 100 USD

   Peter

This is the problem with running these promos for anonymous users is that they will get abused, but you have very little chance to prove it conclusively that people have cheated.

I think that unless you have conclusive proof, you should pay out these winners for the promos.

In the future, perhaps lower the stakes so that even if you have to pay out you don't have to pay out as much (and hence don't need to worry as much about cheaters).

guys from my part i can guarantee that there is no cheat  or any evidence that i have cheated  i only shared the promo with my  friend we are 2 separated person  as i told you i can share proof of our conversation also i can give you his number or FB and you can verify with him directly i have nothing to hide
also peter said the price  has been paid i just checked my bitroul account nothing was credited yet

[john_nautica]

Do users really do manage to double or meet the requirements to acquire the $100? then that's really possible to win the $100, I see that some users are trying to win all over again I think you should make clear or create a rules or terms and condition of your promotion.

[noorman0]

-snip-
that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be identified ?

Not for some cases, I also forgot the last time I entered my password to access this forum. And for sure, the system and the site admin will not ask for the password when I want to change it or forget it. I'll just be emailed a unique link to get to the password reset page, it's that simple.

-snip-
that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be identified ?

You are right, but the pin or password is excluded. Even the customer's first prohibition is to hand over the pin/password to anyone, including bank officers.

The questions are,
What do you consider that this method is quite safe and will not have problems one day? (I think this is not a common standard)
Can you give an example of a casino site or anything that adopts this kind of password reset method? (Afaik, your casino is the first time)

Saying harsh words will affect the reputation of your casino

[Bitinity]

     to ultraloa and bitinity .

     didn't you notice that to loginto any site the pwd is required ? that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be
     identified ?
     oh no you are so stupid .

     Peter

Seems that you are so experienced owner as well as an experienced gambler in the past, that's why you are comparing gambling with bank hotline lul. Didn't you read my previous post completely, I said it based on my own experience since I played in online gambling for years and in so many different casinos. Not even single site asked me my password privately by email for any reason. Btw thanks for calling as stupid, I take it as a compliment. 

[lemarin2]

-snip-
that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be identified ?

Not for some cases, I also forgot the last time I entered my password to access this forum. And for sure, the system and the site admin will not ask for the password when I want to change it or forget it. I'll just be emailed a unique link to get to the password reset page, it's that simple.

-snip-
that when you phone to your bank hotline you have to answer some questions to be identified ?

You are right, but the pin or password is excluded. Even the customer's first prohibition is to hand over the pin/password to anyone, including bank officers.

The questions are,
What do you consider that this method is quite safe and will not have problems one day? (I think this is not a common standard)
Can you give an example of a casino site or anything that adopts this kind of password reset method? (Afaik, your casino is the first time)

Saying harsh words will affect the reputation of your casino

 
   To Noorman an Bitinity

   Thank you for your message .

    The facts : to identify the winners of my contest ( less than 10 persons ) I asked them to confirm the pwd of their BitRoul account in a private email , mine being peter@bitroul.com

    Why ? there is something you have maybe never seen on an other "casino" ( I don't claim to be a casino , BitRoul is a sophisticated Roulette based game)  

    Because on www.BitRoul.com you can create an account WITHOUT an email confirmation . It means that the email address is not an obligation for the players . Why ? in the scope of anonymity .

    So the confirmation of the "identity" could be quite different on BitRoul than on other "casino" sites .

    Regards .

   Peter

   Proud Founder of www.BitRoul.com   100% RTP Roulette

        

[Haunebu]

    Why ? there is something you have maybe never seen on an other "casino" ( I don't claim to be a casino , BitRoul is a sophisticated Roulette based game) 

    Because on www.BitRoul.com you can create an account WITHOUT an email confirmation . It means that the email address is not an obligation for the players . Why ? in the scope of anonymity .

    So the confirmation of the "identity" could be quite different on BitRoul than on other "casino" sites .

There is nothing sophisticated about your game. The site design is bland and it's just roulette without a zero. The bet limits suck and the win animations are annoying and there is no option to disable them.

Asking gamblers their passwords is weird and justifying yourself by providing stupid reasons makes you look like an idiot. Calling other posters stupid when they are trying to help you out proves that you need to improve your brainpower.

No amount of promos can save your site thanks to your pathetic, unprofessional behaviour op. Grow up!

[lemarin2]

   Why ? there is something you have maybe never seen on an other "casino" ( I don't claim to be a casino , BitRoul is a sophisticated Roulette based game)  

    Because on www.BitRoul.com you can create an account WITHOUT an email confirmation . It means that the email address is not an obligation for the players . Why ? in the scope of anonymity .

    So the confirmation of the "identity" could be quite different on BitRoul than on other "casino" sites .

There is nothing sophisticated about your game. The site design is bland and it's just roulette without a zero. The bet limits suck and the win animations are annoying and there is no option to disable them.

Asking gamblers their passwords is weird and justifying yourself by providing stupid reasons makes you look like an idiot. Calling other posters stupid when they are trying to help you out proves that you need to improve your brainpower.

No amount of promos can save your site thanks to your pathetic, unprofessional behaviour op. Grow up!

   Oh yes for sure Hannebau you are trying to help , you only receive poor money from competitors and come to my thread where you are not required , only to make bad buz of an honest competitor .
    
    You are a loser . The best of them , a Hero loser :-)

      www.bitroul.com
  


    

[lemarin2]

       Haunebau , you a re not welcome on this thread , if you come again , it will be uniquely by provokation . So walk away .

       www.bitroul.com

[sam00]

    Why ? there is something you have maybe never seen on an other "casino" ( I don't claim to be a casino , BitRoul is a sophisticated Roulette based game) 

    Because on www.BitRoul.com you can create an account WITHOUT an email confirmation . It means that the email address is not an obligation for the players . Why ? in the scope of anonymity .

    So the confirmation of the "identity" could be quite different on BitRoul than on other "casino" sites .

There is nothing sophisticated about your game. The site design is bland and it's just roulette without a zero. The bet limits suck and the win animations are annoying and there is no option to disable them.

Asking gamblers their passwords is weird and justifying yourself by providing stupid reasons makes you look like an idiot. Calling other posters stupid when they are trying to help you out proves that you need to improve your brainpower.

No amount of promos can save your site thanks to your pathetic, unprofessional behaviour op. Grow up!

   Oh yes for sure Hannebau you are trying to help , you only receive poor money from competitors and come to my thread where you are not required , only to make bad buz of an honest competitor .
   
    You are a loser . The best of them , a Hero loser :-)

      www.bitroul.com
   


   

       Haunebau , you a re not welcome on this thread , if you come again , it will be uniquely by provokation . So walk away .

       www.bitroul.com

I would advise anyone trying to help you by providing you with criticism to stay away from this thread since you clearly don't deserve any help from experienced members here, judgin by how you respond to them

Everything Haunebau said is completely right in my opinion!

[abuzmaster]

Pls don't say that... am not him for god sake I already explain it trust me it's only a confusion because my friend is a copycat fan he always add master & abuz to his nickname benismail since he try to be in my path... IAm honest person I did nothing wrong I just promoted your site and trying to help by inviting  my friends over here now I become the bad person..and shamed for something I did not by myself ..as I told I can show proof ...etc  you will see by your self nothing wrong from my side.. Also there is no trick for how I win nothing special I did all the bets fairly you can check them all

this guy is insane still accusing me with kid argument  proof i leave this here and not gonna beg you to believe me since you are the owner you should have sophisticated tools and skills to spot cheaters and then you can publish proof over here and let people judge too, i guess all you got is the similarity between names or passwords and you are making a bad decision base on that....
never accusing  someone of cheating without real evidence if i would scam your promotion i will never create account similar to mine just think about it ...you think am stupid enough to bust my self ?
..it's not how professional casino  manage kind of issues  but whatever man  it's all up to you



you won't honour the payment i understand
but why you posted  ""he has been paid 100.   can you show the trx or it's just a lie ??





proof of the guy i shared with the promo

[panjul07]

There is nothing sophisticated about your game. The site design is bland and it's just roulette without a zero. The bet limits suck and the win animations are annoying and there is no option to disable them.

Asking gamblers their passwords is weird and justifying yourself by providing stupid reasons makes you look like an idiot. Calling other posters stupid when they are trying to help you out proves that you need to improve your brainpower.

No amount of promos can save your site thanks to your pathetic, unprofessional behaviour op. Grow up!

   Oh yes for sure Hannebau you are trying to help , you only receive poor money from competitors and come to my thread where you are not required , only to make bad buz of an honest competitor .
    
    You are a loser . The best of them , a Hero loser :-)

      www.bitroul.com   

competitor? Are you considering your site as a competitor of the site which is promoted by Haunebu in his signature?
Sorry to say but you have nothing special except your non zero roulette game, but you have nothing in other aspects compared to other sites especially crypto.games.
I'm not really sure why you are so harsh against opinion, do you accept good/positive opinion only?

[Benismail01]

Me and abuzmaster arn't the same player
Am been paid
transaction id : 2f5cc15ffe31f4d390de49139fd0ddd7f974beb568abeada47087c66a98ceee2

[lemarin2]

There is nothing sophisticated about your game. The site design is bland and it's just roulette without a zero. The bet limits suck and the win animations are annoying and there is no option to disable them.

Asking gamblers their passwords is weird and justifying yourself by providing stupid reasons makes you look like an idiot. Calling other posters stupid when they are trying to help you out proves that you need to improve your brainpower.

No amount of promos can save your site thanks to your pathetic, unprofessional behaviour op. Grow up!

   Oh yes for sure Hannebau you are trying to help , you only receive poor money from competitors and come to my thread where you are not required , only to make bad buz of an honest competitor .
    
    You are a loser . The best of them , a Hero loser :-)

        www.bitroul.com  

competitor? Are you considering your site as a competitor of the site which is promoted by Haunebu in his signature?
Sorry to say but you have nothing special except your non zero roulette game, but you have nothing in other aspects compared to other sites especially crypto.games.
I'm not really sure why you are so harsh against opinion, do you accept good/positive opinion only?

        panjul   (legendary : laughable)          

        Your "opinion" is not requested here . You are not a client , you don't practice BitRoul , You are here only to spill out bad buzz on the sites you visit
        coz they are competitors of the company that you advertise and that pays you .
        You are not my friend , I don't want you as a friend , I don't need your "expertise" coz I am more expert
        than you .

        

         www.BitRoul.com

        
        

[lemarin2]

Me and abuzmaster arn't the same player
Am been paid
transaction id : 2f5cc15ffe31f4d390de49139fd0ddd7f974beb568abeada47087c66a98ceee2

  Thanks to have confirmed you have been paid

  www.BitRoul.com

[abuzmaster]

@lemarin2   do you still think that we are the same person now

[sam00]

        panjul   (legendary : laughable)         

        Your "opinion" is not requested here . You are not a client , you don't practice BitRoul , You are here only to spill out bad buzz on the sites you visit
        coz they are competitors of the company that you advertise and that pays you .
        You are not my friend , I don't want you as a friend , I don't need your "expertise" coz I am more expert
        than you .

       

         www.BitRoul.com

         
         

The ranks in this forum represent a users activity and the quality of their posts. I still don’t understand why you call his rank (which is the highest you could achieve here) laughable.
The way you react to criticism will definitely not earn you any merits if you insult others in your own thread.

[lemarin2]

        panjul   (legendary : laughable)          

        Your "opinion" is not requested here . You are not a client , you don't practice BitRoul , You are here only to spill out bad buzz on the sites you visit
        coz they are competitors of the company that you advertise and that pays you .
        You are not my friend , I don't want you as a friend , I don't need your "expertise" coz I am more expert
        than you .

        

         www.BitRoul.com

        
        

The ranks in this forum represent a users activity and the quality of their posts. I still don’t understand why you call his rank (which is the highest you could achieve here) laughable.
The way you react to criticism will definitely not earn you any merits if you insult others in your own thread.

   


       I only look for merits from my clients and certainly not from "heroes" or "legendary" that are paid to stalk and criticize the competitors of the company they  advertise .

       www.BitRoul.com

[sam00]

       I only look for merits from my clients and certainly not from "heroes" or "legendary" that are paid to stalk and criticize the competitors of the company they  advertise .

       www.BitRoul.com

While there are certainly requirements for signature campaign participants, nobody here is getting paid to criticize, stalk or talk shit about other online casinos. It's rather the opposite that participants are required a certain quality among their posts.

If you to stick around for some time you will realize that aswell

These "heroes" and "legendaries" were just trying to help you ~

[leea-1334]

Man,,, all you guys coming in and telling him to adjust his ANN and do escrow and all that, why not chill back and relax and if you really want to help, do like yahoo and test out the roulette.

Roulette is not my thing OP but if it was, you have to implement being able to make more than 1 bet (unless you've fixed that).

Kudos to yahoo for catching the bugs. Allow for auto betting and then for sure you can really stresstest.

Good luck for 0 house edge roulette,,, for sure this is the first I have ever seen!

[lemarin2]

Man,,, all you guys coming in and telling him to adjust his ANN and do escrow and all that, why not chill back and relax and if you really want to help, do like yahoo and test out the roulette.

Roulette is not my thing OP but if it was, you have to implement being able to make more than 1 bet (unless you've fixed that).

Kudos to yahoo for catching the bugs. Allow for auto betting and then for sure you can really stresstest.

Good luck for 0 house edge roulette,,, for sure this is the first I have ever seen!

  leea :  Thank you for your balanced post .

   www.BitRoul.com

[dustboy]

Man,,, all you guys coming in and telling him to adjust his ANN and do escrow and all that, why not chill back and relax and if you really want to help, do like yahoo and test out the roulette.

Everyone is chilling here except the OP, he used harsh words to reply criticism or opinion. Do you think it is good behavior from an owner of gambling site? OP need to learn from the other gambling site's owner on how to respond to criticism or opinion. Criticism and opinion can help him to improve his own site if he accept it wisely. There is no perfect site, even an old reputable site is still getting criticism.

[lemarin2]

Man,,, all you guys coming in and telling him to adjust his ANN and do escrow and all that, why not chill back and relax and if you really want to help, do like yahoo and test out the roulette.

Everyone is chilling here except the OP, he used harsh words to reply criticism or opinion. Do you think it is good behavior from an owner of gambling site? OP need to learn from the other gambling site's owner on how to respond to criticism or opinion. Criticism and opinion can help him to improve his own site if he accept it wisely. There is no perfect site, even an old reputable site is still getting criticism.

  dustboy : it's good you recognize that you are here to criticize . At your turn you could be criticized , because you come in my thread , without my will , to advertise for competitors , and moreover you criticize the hread that gives you hospitality !! and I can't delete your post .
but I make a difference between you and the other suckers because you created an account and tested the BitRoul .

         www.BitRoul.com

[abuzmaster]

this guy is not serious he know clearly now that i didn't cheat the promo
but he keep trolling me without any clear answer  
my friend got his price while am struggling with this guy to prove him he his wrong
i thought he is honest and we could close this case in good manner  
but he his clearly unable to show some class or some excuses  !!!
but whatever it's a waste of time and am off this topic
really disappointed  disgusted and feel shamed for inviting someone to join his site
keep the 100 in your pocket it could help you to improve your security system instead of using your eyes to detect cheaters
you said that  am the same player without given any evidence mean you are checking names manually and if you spot any similarity then you scream cheater
 
good luck when you have over 600 users the catch will be hilarious since your system is under dated ..no country for old man and am optimistic about the 600 i bet you could never reach that in your life with that attitude  
accusing people for cheat without any proof + insulting old members + do not honour payments = you just gained a lots of credibility congratulation
 

You might win some but you just lost one
wish you the best of luck

[lemarin2]

this guy is not serious he know clearly now that i didn't cheat the promo
but he keep trolling me without any clear answer  
my friend got his price while am struggling with this guy to prove him he his wrong
i thought he is honest and we could close this case in good manner  
but he his clearly unable to show some class or some excuses  !!!
but whatever it's a waste of time and am off this topic
really disappointed  disgusted and feel shamed for inviting someone to join his site
keep the 100 in your pocket it could help you to improve your security system instead of using your eyes to detect cheaters
you said that  am the same player without given any evidence mean you are checking names manually and if you spot any similarity then you scream cheater
 
good luck when you have over 600 users the catch will be hilarious since your system is under dated ..no country for old man and am optimistic about the 600 i bet you could never reach that in your life with that attitude  
accusing people for cheat without any proof + insulting old members + do not honour payments = you just gained a lots of credibility congratulation
 

You might win some but you just lost one
wish you the best of luck





   Your nickname is clear : abuzmaster   : Abuse Master

   You played twice : once you and second time with your "friend"  which has as nickname Benismailmaster  and there is "abuz" in his password .

   No comment : you try to abuse , and I am fair , be happy , I paid you once 100 Usd

   Peter     www.bitroul.com


     

[john_nautica]

I would like to ask if having a multi account is possible in your website? I have an account before but I forgot the password and wanted to create a new account and I was just afraid that you will close my account for having multiple accounts on your website, or is it possible to close permanently my other account and have a new account?

[lemarin2]

I would like to ask if having a multi account is possible in your website? I have an account before but I forgot the password and wanted to create a new account and I was just afraid that you will close my account for having multiple accounts on your website, or is it possible to close permanently my other account and have a new account?

   Hello John Nautica , Yes you can have as many accounts as you wants . Having an account does not necessitate to declare an email .

   I think certain players have more than 10 accounts .

   www.BitRoul.com

[cafucafucafu]

I would like to ask if having a multi account is possible in your website? I have an account before but I forgot the password and wanted to create a new account and I was just afraid that you will close my account for having multiple accounts on your website, or is it possible to close permanently my other account and have a new account?

   Hello John Nautica , Yes you can have as many accounts as you wants . Having an account does not necessitate to declare an email .

   I think certain players have more than 10 accounts .

   www.BitRoul.com

But each person would only be rewarded for one win for any giveaways?

How are you planning on deciding when it is appropriate for someone to only have one account? Is it arbitrary or explicitly listed for certain scenarios?

Perhaps have lower prizes in the future if you envision trouble with people using multiple accounts to claim it. Just my two cents.

[BIN-BIN]

Welcome to this great community, first I will advise you to get a copper member account that will enable you to post images for more clarification of your site and services, and secondly, I will suggest you create an official thread for your site discussion feedbacks and complaints if you are part of the team.

[john_nautica]

I would like to ask if having a multi account is possible in your website? I have an account before but I forgot the password and wanted to create a new account and I was just afraid that you will close my account for having multiple accounts on your website, or is it possible to close permanently my other account and have a new account?

   Hello John Nautica , Yes you can have as many accounts as you wants . Having an account does not necessitate to declare an email .

   I think certain players have more than 10 accounts .

   www.BitRoul.com

But each person would only be rewarded for one win for any giveaways?

How are you planning on deciding when it is appropriate for someone to only have one account? Is it arbitrary or explicitly listed for certain scenarios?

Perhaps have lower prizes in the future if you envision trouble with people using multiple accounts to claim it. Just my two cents.

I am thinking of the same question as well. The reward system would be an important matter to discuss, especially considering the multiple accounts. I am curious as to how the reward system will work fairly for every parties.

[lemarin2]

     We are working on version 3 of www.BitRoul.com

      You will not be disappointed .

      Always available : play with a 100% Return to player Thanks to our no-zero Roulette , and robust provably fair .
     
       Peter
 
       www.BitRoul.com
     

[Hamphser]

     We are working on version 3 of www.BitRoul.com

      You will not be disappointed .

      Always available : play with a 100% Return to player Thanks to our no-zero Roulette , and robust provably fair .
     
       Peter
 
       www.BitRoul.com
     

We're expecting for that version 3 that you had mentioned.

I would like to recommend something.

1. Can switch up with dark or light mode (green is typical and basic)
2. Terms and Conditions or FAQ shouldn't be written horizontally but rather it would be better if its on the top or bottom.
3. Utilize bottom part space or center out those number choices.

[lemarin2]

     We are working on version 3 of www.BitRoul.com

      You will not be disappointed .

      Always available : play with a 100% Return to player Thanks to our no-zero Roulette , and robust provably fair .
      
       Peter
  
       www.BitRoul.com
      

We're expecting for that version 3 that you had mentioned.

I would like to recommend something.

1. Can switch up with dark or light mode (green is typical and basic)
2. Terms and Conditions or FAQ shouldn't be written horizontally but rather it would be better if its on the top or bottom.
3. Utilize bottom part space or center out those number choices.

  Thanks
  Point 1 is not in the scope
  Point 2 is true
  Point 3: a new layout is in the pipes .

   www.BitRoul.com

[rijaljun]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

[sam00]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

Usually there's a house edge due to the zero. If a player bets on either red or black, he would double his bet if he wins but would not have a 50% chance to win because only 18 out of 37 numbers are either red or black.
By removing the zero, you have no house edge and if you were to place an infinite amount of bets, you would basically always end up with what you started with.

[lemarin2]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

Usually there's a house edge due to the zero. If a player bets on either red or black, he would double his bet if he wins but would not have a 50% chance to win because only 18 out of 37 numbers are either red or black.
By removing the zero, you have no house edge and if you were to place an infinite amount of bets, you would basically always end up with what you started with.

  100 % right

   www.BitRoul.com

[rijaljun]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

Usually there's a house edge due to the zero. If a player bets on either red or black, he would double his bet if he wins but would not have a 50% chance to win because only 18 out of 37 numbers are either red or black.
By removing the zero, you have no house edge and if you were to place an infinite amount of bets, you would basically always end up with what you started with.

  100 % right

   www.BitRoul.com

Many thanks to you, sam00 and lemarin2, for responding to this reply of mine. It is always nice to learn something new every now and then just by conversing with other users here in the forum.

[decodx]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

Usually there's a house edge due to the zero. If a player bets on either red or black, he would double his bet if he wins but would not have a 50% chance to win because only 18 out of 37 numbers are either red or black.
By removing the zero, you have no house edge and if you were to place an infinite amount of bets, you would basically always end up with what you started with.

I apologize for the question if it has already been answered somewhere, but I am not able to find an explanation for how the casino makes its profits without a house edge?

[Eureka_07]

I was just curious what does no zero means? It means that the chance of the users to win increased too right? I see that most of the gambling sites always have 0 and you can also place on that but what could be the advantage and disadvantage if the 0 is removed in the roulette?

Usually there's a house edge due to the zero. If a player bets on either red or black, he would double his bet if he wins but would not have a 50% chance to win because only 18 out of 37 numbers are either red or black.
By removing the zero, you have no house edge and if you were to place an infinite amount of bets, you would basically always end up with what you started with.

I apologize for the question if it has already been answered somewhere, but I am not able to find an explanation for how the casino makes its profits without a house edge?

Since the casino almost has infinite balance compared to the players, I think the more the players play like on blackjack, casino will be more likely to win. The win loss ratio will depend on the decision making and emotion of the player. If the player didn't play in an optimized way, most likely he will lose his money overtime. Most people aren't emotionally stable specially when it comes in gambling, that is why even though the casino has 0 house edge on games like blackjack and baccarat they still tend to get profit out of it.

[dustboy]

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>snip<

I apologize for the question if it has already been answered somewhere, but I am not able to find an explanation for how the casino makes its profits without a house edge?

How the site makes profit while there is no house edge? For sure from losing players. The question comes to in my mind is, will this last long? Having no zero is actually nice but relying from this game alone is not enough to compete and survive in the industry.

[decodx]

I apologize for the question if it has already been answered somewhere, but I am not able to find an explanation for how the casino makes its profits without a house edge?

Since the casino almost has infinite balance compared to the players, I think the more the players play like on blackjack, casino will be more likely to win. The win loss ratio will depend on the decision making and emotion of the player. If the player didn't play in an optimized way, most likely he will lose his money overtime. Most people aren't emotionally stable specially when it comes in gambling, that is why even though the casino has 0 house edge on games like blackjack and baccarat they still tend to get profit out of it.

Wait, what? I'm lost. What are you talking about?
I don't understand what blackjack and baccarat have to do with roulette. These are card games, as far as I am aware.