Mycelium Wallet Promoting Scam Bookies 1xbit.com

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.

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[JollyGood]

When you put it like that it is hard to disagree  

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.

[Pmalek]

I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.

It's still not that bad. A thread from Bitcointalk's Scam Accusation's board is the 3rd result from the top on both Google and DuckDuckGo.

Even the first result is a review of the casinos and it shows a warning in bold that says: "The majority of the reported issues include missing funds, locked accounts, unresponsive support, and many more".
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You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.

[JollyGood]

The way you encapsulated the situation it demonstrates typical selective scam behaviour by 1xbit. As long as they continue to fake reviews on TrustPilot on one hand and then continue to selective scam a handful of their own users on the other hand, they will never have 100% of their users complaining.

I do think due-diligence by users beforehand would have saved so much hassle for future victims but such are the attempts by 1xbit to cover their tracks with fake reviews that it is understandable gullible individuals will fall victim.

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

I guess they make more money this way. You scam just enough people and confiscate their funds to make good profits from it. But you don't overdo it to be tagged as complete scammers. That way you can still keep part of your userbase happy and don't make everyone angry.

[Taskford]

Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.

Sometimes you need to consider that ads are not placed specifying a service. If they are using service like Google AdSense then the ad network is sending the ads and they have no control over it. There are many ad networks not just Google AdSense. 1xbit spends millions of dollar in their advertising. So obviously ad networks are one of the choice for them.

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.

But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

But since Mycelium let that ads place on their platform it indicates that they are not checking the backgrounds of their promoters and just want their own gain for that situations.

I don't think when you go with an ad network then you have a choice of what you display. They give a code and the ad-network sends the ads based on the interest of the client browser. I am not expecting for one or two wrong ads a business or service will change their ad network.

If they could spend millions of dollars for advertisement then why they didn't solve the issue happened to their site? If they just take those situation or cases seriously for sure they can eliminate the doubts of people and we will not see any people discuss some bad words against them.

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

   


I am wondering who else was dogged like me 🤣

[Rikafip]

I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.

Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.

You do wonder though why the scammers behind 1xbit would go to such lengths to come across as a genuine legitimate business when if they applied just a fraction of that same focus and effort and ran a genuine scam-free betting/gaming website, they might have a chance to complete with some of the biggest and best competitors.

Yep, that's a very good question, reminds me of the sketch making fun of the fake moon landing conspiracy theory, in which conspirators concluded that it would be cheaper and easier to actually send man to the moon than fake it. One of the explanation could be that they are so incompetent that they end up scamming people, but I don't really believe in that scenario.

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit. 


 

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

That's their most important marketing technique, to make people think that 1xBet=1xBit. 

All these years I was seeing 1xBet in many leagues and used to wonder fucking shit loads of money they are spending in advertising but on the forum we know they are at the best level to scam users. I even never created any account with 1xBet because in my mind I thought they are 1xBit 🤣

[dkbit98]

Dunno about you, but for me bitcointalk topics are very close to the top and no one who actually type "is 1xbit scam?" won't miss it. Problem is that people google that only after they've been scammed by 1xbit.

That is why I gave two examples, typing only 1xbit term in search engine you won't see any topic from bitcointalk forum or anything related with scam on top.
Just to clarify, they are not typical quick exit scam that shuts down website and steals all the money, but they are know for blocking accounts and confiscating money from individual customers.
We know their TrustPilot is heavily manipulate so we can't expect to see many scam reports there, and even with this they have 19% 1 star reviews.


https://www.trustpilot.com/review/1xbit.com

One potential solution for Mycelium wallet, someone could fork it and create new wallet version without any ads, if that is even possible without messing everything up.
One github they show Apache 2.0 license, and this is what I found on their website:

LICENSE
Mycelium Wallet is licensed under Microsoft Reference Source License (MS-RSL). Full text of the License can be found at http://referencesource.microsoft.com/license.html
Subject to the terms of this license, Mycelium grants you a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free copyright license to reproduce the software for reference use and a non-transferable, non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under licensed patents for reference use. This license does not grant you any rights to use Mycelium's name, logo, or trademarks. The software is licensed "as-is."

https://wallet.mycelium.com/download/privacy.txt

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I am not sure this is totally correct, because I remember someone on forum posting real connection between this two companies and owner was the same guy if I remember correctly.
They both used same third party services and IP addresses, and even same cryptocurrency address was used by both 1xbit and 1xbet, and that is more than enough evidence for me.

[logfiles]

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

You were actually right all those days. They are different sites but both casinos are connected, and there's a lot of evidence pointing to their connection though they have tried always way to hide the connection, but archives don't lie. I even tried to post a few connections, but I think you missed it.
Just research about 1xcorp. N.V. You will see a string of scammy sites just like 1xbit, 1xslots etc, and 1xbet is one of those sites.

[FatFork]

Yesterday I discovered 1xBit and 1xBet are two different sites. All these days I was thinking they are same business LOL

I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm? 

Although 1xBit and 1XBET are, obviously, different sites (on two different domains), both casinos are owned and operated by the same company. This has already been irrefutably proven on numerous occasions.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I am not sure this is totally correct,

You were actually right all those days.

I hope you meant that comment as sarcasm? 

It was not sarcasm. It's been a long time I am assuming. I can recall something I read or wrote but I was not sure that it was about two of these sites. Other day when I was checking their sites then I discovered total two different sites and that made me confused. 🤣

It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.

[FatFork]

It's now clear they are doing massive promotion from 1xbet in the main stream media but in the online media they are promoting 1xbit, They do not care about the reputation since 1xbit is completely de-touched from 1xBet. It's obvious now 1xBet is legally operating with a license otherwise they could not promote in the mainstream media. The victims from 1xBit can use the evidence of connection and call out 1xBit.

Yes, they could. But a civil lawsuit of this nature instigated by a private party would be very expensive, and none of the scammed players are likely to pursue it. As a result, 1xBit can continue to scam their users for hundreds, even thousands, of dollars without fear, because they know they are practically above the law.

It's actually a tragicomic. For a company to proudly proclaim their "protected by law" status, one would think that at least a basic legally required information would be provided, such as contact information, incorporation name, legal jurisdiction, or anything of the sort that a business entity should have readily available. Yet, none of this has been provided by 1xBit. That fact alone is blatantly illegal.

[dkbit98]

It should be possible since the wallet could be reproduced by Wallet Scrutiny[1]. The real question is who would bother maintain such fork?

It an be anyone who understands how coding works, if he is a regular user of Mycelium wallet that get's annoyed but this ads.
In my opinion there are other better open source alternatives for crypto wallets, and maybe that is the reason we didn't see any active Mycelium fork.
Original developers could also accept payment or donations that could remove all ads (with 1xbit in that package), but there is a general problem with app ads for smartphones.