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August 08, 2021, 06:49:11 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2022, 01:50:20 AM by DireWolfM14
 #41

Barcelona is also having partnership with 1xbet
Are you sure that Barcelona has a partnership with 1xbet. I am sorry but I have no idea about it. But if they have a partnership then I think they do not clearly known about the scam activity of 1xbet. But I have doubt about their partnership. I think if they have partnership with 1xbet then they will not delay to cancel the deal after the clarification of the scam activity.

1xBet is indeed a sponsor of Barcelona FC, but don't confuse 1xBet with 1xBit.  1xBet is a legitimate sportsbook.  1xBit is a scam hoping the subtle difference gives them more opportunities to scam.

This from Barcelona FC's website: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors/

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August 08, 2021, 07:29:29 PM
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this bookmaker is advertised in also another well known service. likewise... coinmarketcap show clearly their banner
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and I have the same your reaction time ago while noticing it Sad
It's not the first scam I have seen coinmarketcap advertise  Grin

That aside, After looking at the issue which was raised on GitHub. Where the dev responded and said they wouldn't fix what was requested and even closed it, I think it's time for me to stop using Mycelium. What a disappointment they have been on handling the 1xbit advertising.

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July 23, 2022, 08:52:06 PM
 #43

I found this thread through this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404996.0.

First, I will like everyone to know that i did not read every comment on this thread, so maybe another user might have posted this which am posting right now, forgive me in such case.

The topic of Mycelium wallet promoting scam 1xbit might not really be their fault from what I know about coinzilla ad service.
What Is Coinzilla?
Coinzilla is an ad network which allows you to advertise your product across hundreds (if not thousands) of blockchain, crypto and web3 focused websites and Apps.
From what i know, after setting up your ad account on coinzilla, you choose where you want your ad to be displayed, coinzilla then places your ads on the platforms you choose as long as those platforms individually have ad spaces available.

So on the subject of this discussion, i think coinzilla is responsible for the 1xbit ad which is displayed on Mycelium wallet app.
This is how it works, Mycelium makes a ad space available on their app, coinzilla rents that space to promote their clients business, in the end, client pays coinzilla, coinzilla then pays Mycelium, this is how it is across all other crypto platforms like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin and the rest.

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July 24, 2022, 01:47:47 AM
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1xbet.com is a legit bookmakers

1xBet is a legitimate sportsbook.

But some says they are sister site.

1x trademark is owned by the owner of Crex24 and according to this post, 1xbit = 1xbet = crex24. This is very much possible though the proof to link 1xbit with 1xbet and crex24 are too weak. On the other hand, crex24 = 1xbet is somewhat clear and the guy got some good proof, reasoning. Even crex24 has stated they have partnership with 1xbet. And we all know that crex24 is a shady business and if managed by same owner, 1xbet is also a shady casino.

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July 24, 2022, 01:53:26 AM
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A lot has been learned about 1xBet since I made those comments.  I no longer have the confidence to stand behind those words, so I updated my original post to strike out that comment.  I don't use either site, but I've been told that the sites are nearly identical barring cosmetics and branding.  There are also many scam allegations against 1xBet in the last year.  I don't know that they are affiliated, but they seem to behave similarly.

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July 24, 2022, 06:46:33 AM
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You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 

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July 24, 2022, 01:48:09 PM
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You may not like a wallet advertising a particular service and I understand this. But, that doesn't mean the wallet is not secure.
That's true indeed, but personally I find in-wallet advertising and/or partnering with 3rd party services distasteful, for lack of a better word.  Even when the Dash Electrum wallet suddenly displayed a pro-Ukraine message, I found that to be well beyond what a software wallet should be about.  But when we're talking about one that obviously doesn't do their due diligence on a partner or doesn't care about that partner's reputation, that's concerning (to me at least).

I was surprised to see this thread pop up, because I was under the impression that the Mycelium team had stopped development of their wallet.  There haven't been many threads about it in the last couple of years, and I was pretty sure it had slipped off people's radar.  Interesting.

Edit:  *Oh, shit!*  I just realized this is an old thread!  My bad (though I guess I was right about Mycelium's popularity decline).

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July 24, 2022, 02:24:53 PM
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Recently I learned about Mycelium push notifications and banner ads organized by the Coinzila ad network. So I don't think Coinzila filter scams or Mycelium filter scams. It's likely the same forum, they don't moderate scams. Coinzila just need KYC verification to run ads to their network. I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.

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I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.
Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.

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Or maybe you should all do a thorough research of who makes complaints, why they do it and whether they are dealt with and how? Also check on what basis you issue your opinions - on the basis of facts or the opinions of others.
Because maybe it is that 1xbit and 1xbet are fair casinos and organizations such as Serie A, Barcelona, Confederation of African Football and others have good research and have better checked who they work with?

FC Barcelona - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/1263451/fc-barcelona-adds-1xbet-as-a-new-global-partner
CAF (Confederation of African Football) - https://www.cafonline.com/competitions/sponsors/ - Yes, a whole continent with over a billion people!
Serie A - https://www.legaseriea.it/en
ESL Pro League - https://pro.eslgaming.com/csgo/proleague/

Maybe you should check if the owner of 1xbit and 1xbet is one company, or you don't know it and you are still speculating?
Maybe the time has finally come to check if all these negative opinions about 1xbit come from facts or are they simply duplicated unverified opinions?


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Put your biased opinion somewhere else, not here. You are vouching for them because they have given you a spot on their campaign? It would be better if you verified and justified the accusations before you decide to promote them. Also, you can check my post above and get an idea how shady they can be.

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You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 

I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot. IIRC, 1xbit_official even admitted once that they encourage and reward leaving a review, which is why all positive comments on Trustpilot have an "Invited" note next to them. For example, 1xBit has almost twice as many reviews on TrustPilot compared to Stake.com, and the traffic to their website is ten times less than that of Stake according to Similarweb.com.

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But some says they are sister site.

1x trademark is owned by the owner of Crex24 and according to this post, 1xbit = 1xbet = crex24. This is very much possible though the proof to link 1xbit with 1xbet and crex24 are too weak. On the other hand, crex24 = 1xbet is somewhat clear and the guy got some good proof, reasoning. Even crex24 has stated they have partnership with 1xbet. And we all know that crex24 is a shady business and if managed by same owner, 1xbet is also a shady casino.
Here is more proof to show that the 2 casino are related. Even wayback machine gives as a clue or two. Foolish Erdogan and group initially denied the claims, am surprised they now changed the goal posts.  Grin


1xbit support declares that 1xbet and 1xbit have nothing to do with each other, except a similar name:
What choice do you have except believe everything your scam masters say and come here and lie about it, despite all the evidence showing that the 2 scam casinos are sister companies?

Enjoy your bloody scam money in peace but don't make it worse by trying to defend the indefensible.

Let's go back in time a year after the beginning of the Russian scam casino: https://web.archive.org/web/20170603210023/https://1xbit.com/

When you scroll a bit down



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Do you like sports but can't find a suitable site for the right bets? 1xBit is the site for you. Since 2007, we have been offering our clients the most exciting sports betting and casino games. We have a huge selection of games for all gambling lovers. Have fun fighting our live dealers, spinning slots and enjoying other games.

Sign up to 1xBit and have an amazing gaming experience.

What does that highlighted sentence say about 1xbit?
Wait, which year was 1xbet founded again?

And more evidence by someone else here and here

I'm afraid that's not entirely true. When faced with all the evidence, 1xbit_official clearly shifted their argument from "there is no official connection" to "we are using software developed by the same company", and finally "the same company set up our service from a to z". So, it's obvious that there is at least some connection between the two platforms, besides just having a similar name and using the same software.

Furthermore, as I have shown before, both platforms use the same identification meta tags, which proves beyond a doubt that the same entity manages them both from the backend. As I have stated numerous times, these meta tags have nothing to do with the software these companies are using. Verification meta tags are not provided by game providers or software developers, but by third-party services, such as Google, Microsoft, Yandex and Paysera. They are required in order to verify ownership of a domain (website) at those services, and are unique to every user.

Taking it a step further, in a topic linked by Haunebu, there is strong evidence that there is a connection between KawBet and 1xBit. Both platforms use the same wallets for crypto deposits, which can be easily verified.



In addition to the Bitshares wallet, the same wallets are also used for EOS and Stellar deposits, and I suspect for other cryptocurrencies as well.
Code:
Bitshares wallet username: x1bit
Eos wallet username: x1bitpaygate
Stellar: GD5X7UT6V2LQPQVORA7KRNYAW4LTZWN6R4M3M5UHSGM7YIYGBN67IYP5

The same wallets are used on the 1xBET platform as well. As a result, all payments on any of these platforms go to the same account, and the same company handles all deposits and withdrawals, and that is 1xBET.



Several other platforms (with a shady history) are also affiliated with the same group:

888STARZ - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250905.0
Cleobet - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723.0
Pnxbet - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235201.0

And that's not all ...
Here is another one using the same bitshares deposit address:
https://casino-z.com/

edit: there are many more:
https://bet-1xsport.com/
https://lordbetting.com/
https://betwinner.com
https://melbet.com/
https://playwetten.com/
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So, to summarize: they use the same software and the same game provider, matching third-party verification tags, matching deposit addresses and wallets, matching terms of use...
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ...

And lastly, for all those who are still in denial, here are some quotes from their previous representative on this forum (or the same person under a different name) which completely refute their more recent claims:

We are not the same but still use a lot of 1xbet options including customer support.
But its separate team and the owners.

We are related. Its obvious))
We are using a lot of 1xbet.com functions, 1xbet using some ours.
But our team is separate and we'll develop a lot of new features soon.


 
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I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot.
That is not something that surprises me. Bought and fake reviews have unfortunately become a normal thing these days. But the fact remains, if you are unaware of what 1xBit is from the many threads on this forum, and you just scratch the surface to see what comes out, you will get the feeling that 1xBit is a good casino with excellent ratings and many positive reviews. Even a search for "1xBit scam" shows casino reviews at the top of the results, where it's stated that the platform has its problems and some unresolved scam accusations, but overall, it's a great place to gamble. That's just the way things stand at the moment. 

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I am not sure if reporting 1xbit to Coinzila or Mycelium would help.
Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.

That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.

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This is how it works, Mycelium makes a ad space available on their app, coinzilla rents that space to promote their clients business, in the end, client pays coinzilla, coinzilla then pays Mycelium, this is how it is across all other crypto platforms like etherscan, bscscan, poocoin and the rest.
Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?
I stopped using Mycellium wallet after they introduced this change and I see no real reason to use it for Bitcoin only wallet, and for multicoin wallets there is open source alternative Unstoppable wallet.
I understand developers need some funding to continues development, but I think this was long term wrong decision made by Mycellium team.

Even if you report it, I don't think that Coinzila will share our view when it comes to 1xbit as they are advertising literally everywhere. You can find their banners on Coingecko as well, which is usually considered more reliable than Coinmarketcap. They are simply buying everyone they could and I am sure that many here would carry their signature if they weren't afraid of getting tagged.
I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
We also know that scam ads can be seen all over facebook, google and other websites, so we can't expect miracles from small company like coinzilla or mycellium  Cheesy
Does anyone have full list of coinzilla partners?


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Someone could sell the soul for money
Would that be Digital goods or Invites & Accounts? I'm tempted Cheesy

Is there any way do disable or hide this coinzilla ads in Mycellium wallet, maybe with some external app or custom settings that hide ads for all apps?
I'm not sure which ads come from Coinzilla. After disabling anything it allows, all I see are the BUSINESSES and FIO REQUESTS tabs, but usually I don't scroll that far. I don't need anything right from TRANSACTIONS (I don't use the ADDRESS BOOK). The FIO thing looks like a shitcoin that somehow got added, and the BUSINESSES has offers like (I kid you not): "Small aircraft. $570,000 (only for Mycelium users)."

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If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.

Just the notion that the 1xbit scammers have more reviews on trustpilot than stake.com, is in itself just proof that 1xbit have infiltrated an otherwise mostly trusted review website.

You have to ask yourself: how widely knows is it that 1xBit is a scam casino? The people on this forum know about it relatively well, but you still have people who get scammed out of their money by using their services. Just yesterday I read about a case of a user who has been a member on Bitcointalk since 2020 and he got scammed as well.

I don't think Mycelium carried out extensive research here. Since many people probably rely on sites like Trustpilot, you will be surprised when you see that 1xBit has almost 2.500 reviews, and 56% of those rate the casino as excellent, 17% as great, etc. 19% rate it as bad, but with an overall rating of 4.0, it looks like a good platform, unless you carry out more research. 

I believe that 1xBit very easily buys those positive reviews on Trustpilot. IIRC, 1xbit_official even admitted once that they encourage and reward leaving a review, which is why all positive comments on Trustpilot have an "Invited" note next to them. For example, 1xBit has almost twice as many reviews on TrustPilot compared to Stake.com, and the traffic to their website is ten times less than that of Stake according to Similarweb.com.


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July 26, 2022, 07:01:44 PM
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That's true, everyone in the world looks for money. Someone could sell the soul for money and Someone earned it the legal way. Since it's their business then they won't stop it. Coinzila doesn't have business with the public, their business is with companies and websites. So they don't care about the public's money. But gamblers should check themselves before depositing there. Need a bit of research, not just jump after seeing the ads.
Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.


I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.


If that is the case it damages the credibility of trustpilot and websites such as those where people are expecting to read real/genuine unbiased published reviews.
I don't think that Trustpilot has any credibility so having bunch of fake 1xbit reviews won't damage them much.



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Problem is that outside of this forum 1xbit doesn't have a reputation of straight up scam so Coingecko and Mycelium probably don't think that they are doing anything wrong by allowing 1xbit to advertise there.
They could simply do google internet re-search and find juicy information about them, like wikipedia article stating 1xbit was ''ousted for their involvement in illegal activities''.
I am honestly surprised that results from bitcointalk 1xbit scam is not on top, but they probably paid a lot of money for pushing other results on top.
Typing 1xbit scam in search is giving much better results.

I didn't know this because I don't see any ads on Coingecko and most other websites with my uBlockOrigin, but it is disabled on bitcointalk forum.
Yeah I didn't know about it either up until recently when I got new PC and checked the website while forgetting to get adblocker on Mozilla. I thought that Coingecko is better than CMC in that regard but I guess they all like the money.
I think Coingecko still have less ads than CMC, but it's still bad for me.
It's harder to avoid ads on mobile devices but you could do it with host block list or use open source app like Blokada5 that blkocks adds for most apps.
Someone should try if it is working for blocking adds in Mycellium wallet.

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