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August 16, 2021, 10:42:37 PM |
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Look what a muslim site says about this situation: Former Imam Kaaba Inaugurates Cards Championship Angers MuslimsI'm not sure if that is really a casino, but the story is that a former Imam inaugurated a cards championship with his religious fellows in the Saudi capital of Riyadh, what disturbed the most traditional segments of the Islam in the country. I doubt there is much anyone can do about it, because there is a consensus Saudi Arabia is going more liberal day by day (of course it's a different liberalism from the western world), what is also noticeable in another areas, like for example in cultural sector, as the first cinema house will be opened in that country in two days, and more are to come for the next years. Scenes like the ones presented in this thread are going to become more common from now on. I'm impressed! Is this site what you showed is really trustworthy?? I would never imagine that an Islamic country could ever "accept" these kinds of things. (Of course not everyone agrees with this). But I confess that I was impressed, as it seems that with each passing day some countries around the world are changing!! How many did really actually play gambling on that particular area?It is a gambling establishment or just inside of someones home?When it comes to regulation then for sure they are really strict on implementing about those rules specially with prohibition. Just as @Lanatsa mentioned above that it is a haram thing on Islam then it is really surprising that they are really doing gambling. If they do really like to play then they are aware on the prohibitions that had been set.
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August 16, 2021, 10:52:42 PM |
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Is Gambling prohibited in Islam?
How many people in Saudi Arabia are not Islam? How many of them will break rules of their religion by gambling?
I think that it's haram for the religion but I think that they must have some reservations to allow gambling in their country. Maybe the interest of the government and the religion is met and satisfied by the supposed gambling to which caused them to be allowed to operate. I think that a lot of people are breaking the laws in their religion, pretty sure about that, it's just that no one wants to admit that because they know the punishment especially Muslims. This is prohibited on Saudi, it’s just that people are violating their law just to get pleasure in gambling and of course to make money. Though it’s hard to confirm if they are Muslims or what but gambling is illegal in Saudi, maybe they play on the other country or some companies are operating in Saudi legally, that’s too hard to know if you’re not living in Saudi though.
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August 16, 2021, 10:53:33 PM |
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I'm not going to say about race, ethnicity or about religion because this is not a field I'm in charge of but I've heard about this and it went viral a few years ago. and as far as I know this is the picture shown known the men are not playing casino gambling. The game played was the Baloot card which was held in Riyadh, in 2018. This tournament, according to Turnbackhoax, was held for 4 days with more than 12,000 players participating with a total prize of one million Saudi riyals for the top four teams. And this is the first time it has been held in an Arab country. I will not discuss a religion in gambling but as far as I know after reading several sources, it is more precisely what I described above. apart from Google or YouTube ads, it's a little more realistic because everyone can use this kind of thing, they can just copy-paste the image and replace it with another title, it's very easy to manipulate
Images are easy to manipulate and change the viewers' perspective and reasoning. But with validation and a clear explanation of what's clearly happening, the context will be delivered and explained properly what was happening. At first look, we may really see that it's about gambling but until we don't have the valid reasoning for that image then don't assume that it is. We all know that country prohibits it and so we know that they're following laws not only with their country but also with their religion.
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August 16, 2021, 11:59:29 PM |
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Islam religion is against gambling. Saudi Arabia is one of the country that strictly follows the laws mentioned in Quran. So, there is no chance of such thing to happen in Saudi Arabia. This seems to be a manipulated image. Arabs are found around the globe enjoying luxury with the money out of oil. Maybe these are some of those Arabs enjoying out of the country.
Even in Islam religion people are there who gamble and do things that are against Quran, but Saudi Arabia government never allows it within the country.
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August 17, 2021, 12:35:01 AM |
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Islam religion is against gambling. Saudi Arabia is one of the country that strictly follows the laws mentioned in Quran. So, there is no chance of such thing to happen in Saudi Arabia. This seems to be a manipulated image. Arabs are found around the globe enjoying luxury with the money out of oil. Maybe these are some of those Arabs enjoying out of the country.
Even in Islam religion people are there who gamble and do things that are against Quran, but Saudi Arabia government never allows it within the country.
Are they able to gamble while outside their country? I'm not sure if I have seen an Arab man playing in a casino wearing their traditional dress but there are some people that looked like an Arab playing in casino. But how do they able to go to a casino and play if they have not learned to gamble in their country - They must have been playing casino games probably in their backyard. How about playing the game without betting money, is it allowed?
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August 17, 2021, 02:05:30 AM |
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I am quite surprised that even in a country so strict against gambling that it still exists. Perhaps gambling could be interpreted as second nature to man.
Saudi Arabia is the capital country for Muslims and as such it gives so much value to the rules of the Quran and what is haram is to be avoided at all costs, otherwise you will suffer the punishment for its commission. And yet it seems to me that these pictures are real. Perhaps as swogerino mentioned the country doesn't mind this if the ones involved are foreigners.
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August 17, 2021, 04:07:30 AM |
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I am quite surprised that even in a country so strict against gambling that it still exists. Perhaps gambling could be interpreted as second nature to man.
Saudi Arabia is the capital country for Muslims and as such it gives so much value to the rules of the Quran and what is haram is to be avoided at all costs, otherwise you will suffer the punishment for its commission. And yet it seems to me that these pictures are real. Perhaps as swogerino mentioned the country doesn't mind this if the ones involved are foreigners.
I think that is because some people want to have fun like what they see on the internet or other media, so they make a secret place to gamble or use unused homes to gather all of those people to play gambling. Usually, that is what they did with the other people who want to gamble. In other countries where gambling is prohibited, people will have that secret place to gamble, which is hard to find. So even that is in Saudi Arabia, that will not stop people from gambling.
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August 17, 2021, 04:25:49 AM |
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We can also determine if those pictures are edit ones or not.If we do talk about Muslim religion then gambling is purely
I think so too, the thing about gambling in Saudi Arabia is quite strange to me, I just wanted to make this topic and ask a question, I know that in this forum there are Arab communities and local Arab forums, but i didn't find a satisfactory answer it's just weird to me, is this real or edited. I think in this situation the Arab community knows more about the real thing, but I can't find the original source of how real casinos in Arabia are, real or hoax. I understand Islam strictly prohibits gambling, especially in Arabia, let alone gambling, even women are not allowed to drive, although now it is allowed, new Arab law. So with this news, I was thinking, is it possible that a new law has been implemented, casino gambling has been allowed there, quietly.
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August 17, 2021, 05:19:52 AM |
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i check the first link bu i have to ask google again if gambling is allowed in that country or not and results show that it is strictly prohibited but under it it says its allowed but it does not involved real money so maybe that is what you say in google images and in youtube although in the image they are using chips but that can only be a replica to imitate or to experience a real gambling .
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August 17, 2021, 08:55:03 AM |
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Probably there is a condition to consider before allowing gambling, there are other people in the Muslim faith that gambles in different country so I think there must be some kind of loophole that they are being allowed to gamble but generally I do believe that gambling isn't allowed in the Qur'an.
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August 17, 2021, 09:06:40 AM |
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if you look again at Youtube, they (the Arabs) are actually playing real casino gambling.
So, that makes me curious and wondering about the casino gambling on Youtube and the google image is true or a hoax....!
What is the response about Islamic countries and their laws prohibiting gambling, but the opposite.
There are more possibilities for these to be hoax. Even we cannot underestimate the credibility of all google services but google searches are just based on key word search. If you put some photoshopped images with the caption of "if Arabs go to casino and play gambling then it will look like this", then google will show those same image for all those who search with key words: Arabs+gambling. At the same time, we need to wait for the people who frequents to big hotels and other similar resorts to confirm the actual status of gambling in all restricted countries because human's basic nature is always trying to breach both governments' and religions' law for curiosity reasons.
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August 17, 2021, 01:54:17 PM |
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Gambling is illegal in most Islam countries yet we can't deny the fact that people will always find ways to do gambling. Even in the most strict areas where gambling is prohibited, we all know that underground gambling is still happening. However, we still aren't sure if the players on the photos are really Arabs since not all we see on the internet is true.
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August 17, 2021, 02:36:10 PM |
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Islam religion is against gambling. Saudi Arabia is one of the country that strictly follows the laws mentioned in Quran. So, there is no chance of such thing to happen in Saudi Arabia. This seems to be a manipulated image. Arabs are found around the globe enjoying luxury with the money out of oil. Maybe these are some of those Arabs enjoying out of the country.
Even in Islam religion people are there who gamble and do things that are against Quran, but Saudi Arabia government never allows it within the country.
Are they able to gamble while outside their country? I'm not sure if I have seen an Arab man playing in a casino wearing their traditional dress but there are some people that looked like an Arab playing in casino. But how do they able to go to a casino and play if they have not learned to gamble in their country - They must have been playing casino games probably in their backyard. How about playing the game without betting money, is it allowed? Not all Arabs follow Islam, Arabic does not mean Islam, many of them gamble in secret. Even though they live in a predominantly Muslim area, and apply Islamic rules, that doesn't mean they can't gamble. We just don't know. why do i talk like that? because my mother used to work there and witnessed the identical Arabs wearing their traditional clothes gambling. So we cannot generalize this unilaterally when applying Islamic rules. Because of course Islam forbids gambling.
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August 17, 2021, 02:41:39 PM |
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Is Gambling prohibited in Islam?
How many people in Saudi Arabia are not Islam? How many of them will break rules of their religion by gambling?
I think that it's haram for the religion but I think that they must have some reservations to allow gambling in their country. Maybe the interest of the government and the religion is met and satisfied by the supposed gambling to which caused them to be allowed to operate. I think that a lot of people are breaking the laws in their religion, pretty sure about that, it's just that no one wants to admit that because they know the punishment especially Muslims. This is prohibited on Saudi, it’s just that people are violating their law just to get pleasure in gambling and of course to make money. Though it’s hard to confirm if they are Muslims or what but gambling is illegal in Saudi, maybe they play on the other country or some companies are operating in Saudi legally, that’s too hard to know if you’re not living in Saudi though. Living conditions often encourage people to look for shortcuts in making money. One of them is gambling, even though it is clearly prohibited in religious and state regulations, nothing can stop someone who has made up his mind who is confused about making money. During the pandemic, it became more and more rampant and the users of online gambling site sites increased. Should it be prohibited in a country, the government should pay more attention to people like that, create jobs, ease the conditions for accepting workers and much more. If it gets more complicated then don't blame those who gamble, because they no longer have a way to make extra money.
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August 17, 2021, 03:33:56 PM |
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Gambling is illegal in most Islam countries yet we can't deny the fact that people will always find ways to do gambling. Even in the most strict areas where gambling is prohibited, we all know that underground gambling is still happening. However, we still aren't sure if the players on the photos are really Arabs since not all we see on the internet is true.
Yes, that is because people attempt gambling to make money and know that gambling is prohibited in their country. They risk their money and even their life because if they get caught by the police, they will get punishment for some time. Even if that is Arabs, we can not blame them as gambling is their choice and they know about the consequences of playing gambling in their country.
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August 17, 2021, 04:01:55 PM |
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Is Gambling prohibited in Islam?
How many people in Saudi Arabia are not Islam? How many of them will break rules of their religion by gambling?
Well, the thing about "death by boredom" countries like Saudi Arabia is that is does not really matter if your are Arab, Cristian, Buddhist,... because there are certain rules in the country that apply to all. For example, an unmarried couple of expats from I a company I worked for were told that they could not live together because they were not married. We are talking about people who had been together for more than 10 years. I would not even consider what would have happened if they were gay. So your personal beliefs do not matter, unless you are an atheist, in which case it matters: In March 2014, the Saudi interior ministry issued a royal decree branding all atheists as terrorists, which defines terrorism as "calling for atheist thought in any form, or calling into question the fundamentals of the Islamic religion on which this country is based." I am no fan of Putin, but when Saudi Arabia asked for permission to build mosques in Russia to cater for the Muslim population, he said it was ok as long as churches could be built in Arabia. Obviously, that ended the conversation. So it is not about gambling being allowed or not for certain groups, it is that the laws are applied to everyone. In my opinion, whether a gambling is illegal or not is relative. Not only gambling, even eating, drinking, living extravagantly or anything that is too excessive can be considered haram (wrong). Simply put, anything that is done in excess can lead to haram. Although it is not in the scriptural records though, because it is based on the customs of a society. Returning to gambling which is currently the most massive and rapidly growing thing in various countries shows that there is a greater sense of desire to achieve something by risking. Since the days of ignorance, Arabs have known gambling and it has even become a habit of Arabs before Islam came. What are they betting on? one of them is the camel, betting on 1 camel by guessing the number or speed of running (if it is now like a horse race) if the guess is correct, then those who bet 1 camel can get 2 to 5 or even more. That is the basis that disrupts the haram law. then what is illegal? Broadly speaking, haram is doing something that is prohibited by religion (all religions have a prohibition) and then getting a threat. For those who have religious beliefs, ideally just obey, but again, humans are still humans. It is not only in Arabia that dominates Islam and prohibits gambling, even all countries of any religion have something in common regarding gambling. it's a simple concept that I think goes back to gamblers, can they stop gambling, or stick to the rules? example "even though we have bad personalities, but still if the religion is misused, it will definitely be defended". Likewise, those of us who still can't stop gambling, it doesn't mean we no longer hold on to the beliefs we hold, but our needs, hobbies and other things that encourage us to do it all. We are all equal in this regard.
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You can create a website from anywhere in the world and can hitlre people to cash like arab and take images loke they are gambling and can make money from such traffic into their site, everything showing on the Google is not 100% accurate because it just bring the results for your search and they are not taking any responsibility for the accuracy.
AFIAK, gambling is completely prohibited in all the Islamic countries for the muslims but they let the other religious people to decide their choices.
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uneng
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August 17, 2021, 07:59:28 PM |
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Look what a muslim site says about this situation: Former Imam Kaaba Inaugurates Cards Championship Angers MuslimsI'm not sure if that is really a casino, but the story is that a former Imam inaugurated a cards championship with his religious fellows in the Saudi capital of Riyadh, what disturbed the most traditional segments of the Islam in the country. I doubt there is much anyone can do about it, because there is a consensus Saudi Arabia is going more liberal day by day (of course it's a different liberalism from the western world), what is also noticeable in another areas, like for example in cultural sector, as the first cinema house will be opened in that country in two days, and more are to come for the next years. Scenes like the ones presented in this thread are going to become more common from now on. I'm impressed! Is this site what you showed is really trustworthy?? I would never imagine that an Islamic country could ever "accept" these kinds of things. (Of course not everyone agrees with this). But I confess that I was impressed, as it seems that with each passing day some countries around the world are changing!! I don't know much about the site. I just searched about muslims gambling on google and that was of one of the sites in evidence also displaying the images posted by OP. I thought interesting because it was a self-claimed muslim site sharing their view on that specific situation. Anyway, the information in the article about the prominent Imam in the images are true and he has a background of liberal statements considering his religion standards.
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alpamar99
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August 17, 2021, 08:04:43 PM |
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Images are easy to manipulate and change the viewers' perspective and reasoning. But with validation and a clear explanation of what's clearly happening, the context will be delivered and explained properly what was happening. At first look, we may really see that it's about gambling but until we don't have the valid reasoning for that image then don't assume that it is. We all know that country prohibits it and so we know that they're following laws not only with their country but also with their religion.
wait, I just explained according to the article I read and there I didn't think the incident was a gamble and in the previous thread I also said that the snippet of the image that became the YouTube advertising channel can be manipulated. I don't understand why you say I assume it's gambling? I have said in the previous thread that it is a baloot game or some kind of card trick that is played in Arab countries in 2018 I say this because I have read the existing articles but because the source articles I read are articles from my own country with my country's language so I didn't include it
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just_Alice
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August 17, 2021, 09:18:43 PM |
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Is Gambling prohibited in Islam?
How many people in Saudi Arabia are not Islam? How many of them will break rules of their religion by gambling?
I think that it's haram for the religion but I think that they must have some reservations to allow gambling in their country. Maybe the interest of the government and the religion is met and satisfied by the supposed gambling to which caused them to be allowed to operate. I think that a lot of people are breaking the laws in their religion, pretty sure about that, it's just that no one wants to admit that because they know the punishment especially Muslims. They don’t allow gambling in the natural sense of it in Saudi Arabia, people have to use VPN and can, thus, only engage in online gambling. Still, it’s prohibited. However, from what I know, there are halal versions of gambling, that allow people to gamble, but, at the same time, don’t break the Sharia. The solution is simple - play games with no money involved. Here, this article explains a lot. And mind the date, it’s 2018! Maybe since then, Saudi Arabia has warmed up to gambling even more.
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