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July 27, 2021, 06:11:20 PM
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Because of bitcoin untouchable price for little and mid range investors they are always interested to know about those people who owns the highest bitcoin. But because of its privacy its almost impossible to know about then those who want to hide them. But there had lots of rumers. But some of company because of government policy and stay away from future problem they announced their investment in bitcoin. How much they buy bitcoin they update about it every time. From them some of try to manipulate market but some of companies support bitcoin. Because of them bitcoin got more attention to users. And we want to know about those companies but its tough for us to research and know we can just follow some leading researcher to know about it.

Recently a hyped crypto project called Coin98Wallet shared a picture where they show about some public company and how much bitcoin they hold. I think i should share for those who Will be interested on it.
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July 27, 2021, 07:43:01 PM
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As the list grows, our worries will grow as well. What started with Square and Microstrategy, is now a strong list of 37 companies owning a huge amounts of bitcoins. I am afraid that this trend will continue and more companies will join the crypto bandwagon in future. Considering the amount of cash reserve these corporates control, they can eventually become the driving force in crypto market. That's what we certainly want to avoid.

The involvement of corporates was initially felt great but it is pushing bitcoin towards centra8and providing power to these corporates to manipulate the market with their PR strategies and power of numbers. Not really a matter to cheer about!

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July 27, 2021, 08:14:46 PM
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If only the chairman of #1 stopped tweeting bullshit to hype the market. Dear Lord, as long as you keep seeing it, it becomes even greater. One hundred and five thousands bitcoins. Lots and lots of non-spendable outputs!

Imagine the place MicroStrategy keeps the keys. My guess is that it's a multi-signature business.

Shouldn't Grayscale be part of this? They hold around seven times what MicroStrategy does.

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July 27, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
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Shouldn't Grayscale be part of this? They hold around seven times what MicroStrategy does.
This could be because Grayscale does not actually hold Bitcoins which they purchased with their cash reserves, they only serve as a means by which institutional investors can buy into bitcoins without having to go through the hassles of an exchange, so basically, they hold funds for others and do not really hold those coins.

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July 27, 2021, 09:53:09 PM
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Coinbase only has 5k? Wow.

Not public companies, I guess, but in exchanges:

Binance 288k
Bitfinex 178k
OKEX 85k+68k
Huobi 78k
Bittrex 40k

Grayscale has about 600k.

So, with the public companies, these exchanges, and with Grayscale, we are at about 1.5 M coin accounted for.
The Winklevoss had at one point 700k. Barry Silbert 100k. So, that's 2.3M accounted for.
There are 3.5 M addresses that have been dormant since 2015. So, 5.7M accounted for.
Mircea Popescu claimed 1M, but whether that's true..

I wonder where the other 13M bitcoin are?
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July 27, 2021, 10:09:06 PM
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Really should add...
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VISA - https://www.cnbc.com/select/visa-backs-first-credit-card-to-offer-bitcoin-rewards/
Mass Mutual - https://www.lifeinsuranceinternational.com/news/massmutual-invests-bitcoin-provider-nydig/

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July 27, 2021, 10:13:28 PM
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As the list grows, our worries will grow as well. What started with Square and Microstrategy, is now a strong list of 37 companies owning a huge amounts of bitcoins. I am afraid that this trend will continue and more companies will join the crypto bandwagon in future. Considering the amount of cash reserve these corporates control, they can eventually become the driving force in crypto market. That's what we certainly want to avoid.

The involvement of corporates was initially felt great but it is pushing bitcoin towards centra8and providing power to these corporates to manipulate the market with their PR strategies and power of numbers. Not really a matter to cheer about!
I agree as much as we like to see more and more companies start accepting bitcoin as a payment method, the more they hold bitcoin over us the more they are able to control the drive of the price and this will hurt bitcoin and crypto more than it will be good for it especially for people who have supported bitcoin for a long time and than to have it ruined by these major co.
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July 27, 2021, 10:29:53 PM
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Really surprising, MicroStrategy has been quite quiet in recent times but still owns and hosts the top #1 bitcoin vault.  Well deserved, I think there are millions of retailers also hoarding bitcoin, they do it for survival, especially when the world economy is slowly eroding and being bankrupted by covid 19 - harshness
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July 27, 2021, 10:33:05 PM
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Great, this is going to be a good impact to all people who wanted to be aware on those companies that really adopted bitcoin in the first place.
This will be a living proof to someone who still not convinced about Bitcoin's usefulness to human lives. Some of them still has the perceptions about scam of whatsoever negative thoughts against it.
Much better this will be opened to public, it could probably let the whole world achieve more confidence instead of being hesitant about what really bitcoin was.
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Great, this is going to be a good impact to all people who wanted to be aware on those companies that really adopted bitcoin in the first place.
This will be a living proof to someone who still not convinced about Bitcoin's usefulness to human lives. Some of them still has the perceptions about scam of whatsoever negative thoughts against it.
Much better this will be opened to public, it could probably let the whole world achieve more confidence instead of being hesitant about what really bitcoin was.

Most individuals who are still thinking that bitcoin is scam are those who don't find time to educate themselves about its true nature.
I believe, aside from this publicly listed companies who are currently in possession of btc, there are also many private companies who are also holding.
But this data, will give the notion that there are really companies who are heavily investing in crypto, btc in particular.
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I am curious about how to get the data? I don't know if the list above is trustable (valid) or not, but I am surprised I can't find Binance there. Or Binance company is formally written with another name?  Huh

In my viewpoint, it is good news that many public companies are trying to own a big number of BTC. This makes Bitcoin be more popular as a new digital asset. Then, more and more people will follow or join the Bitcoin investment because they are not afraid anymore after seeing what big companies did. However, I am curious about how the future of Bitcoin if most of the circulating supply is on the big companies. Will we see a massive manipulation on Bitcoin price among those companies?


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July 27, 2021, 11:31:32 PM
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I am curious about how to get the data? I don't know if the list above is trustable (valid) or not, but I am surprised I can't find Binance there. Or Binance company is formally written with another name?  Huh

In my viewpoint, it is good news that many public companies are trying to own a big number of BTC. This makes Bitcoin be more popular as a new digital asset. Then, more and more people will follow or join the Bitcoin investment because they are not afraid anymore after seeing what big companies did. However, I am curious about how the future of Bitcoin if most of the circulating supply is on the big companies. Will we see a massive manipulation on Bitcoin price among those companies?


Binance could be completely called to be a company but we know that this is solely a cryptocurrency exchange platform which its just normal that they would really be storing or accumulating more
since this is solely focused on this market and not to those typical or common companies out there but we have seen already that Paypal had already accepted it or integrate.

Doesnt matter if the list is accurate or not but what matter most here is that there's really some progress when it comes to consideration of bitcoin existence even though some are still
on the hesitation or observation side but sooner or later they would really be having their step.

This lists would even more grow as years passed.Adoption cant really be stopped.

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I am curious about how to get the data? I don't know if the list above is trustable (valid) or not, but I am surprised I can't find Binance there. Or Binance company is formally written with another name?  Huh

Regardless if it's missing something, the fact is that bitcoin is being viewed as a hedge and companies are putting in their balance sheet, it is already a good news for us.

In my viewpoint, it is good news that many public companies are trying to own a big number of BTC. This makes Bitcoin be more popular as a new digital asset. Then, more and more people will follow or join the Bitcoin investment because they are not afraid anymore after seeing what big companies did. However, I am curious about how the future of Bitcoin if most of the circulating supply is on the big companies. Will we see a massive manipulation on Bitcoin price among those companies?

That's what I'm saying, whether public or private companies or even countries such as Bulgaria or Ukraine, bitcoin is now one of the best assets, and could be in the top three, together with gold or oil. And for more in the next 5-10 years, this list could grow.

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I am curious about how to get the data? I don't know if the list above is trustable (valid) or not, but I am surprised I can't find Binance there. Or Binance company is formally written with another name?  Huh
From reports of those companies.

Another website that gives information for Bitcoin Treasuries: https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/treasuries/
You can use it for cross-checking with infographics from Coin98 or others. When you use given data from third party companies, it is for reference and you never knows how accurate it is.

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July 28, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
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Recently a hyped crypto project called xxxWallet shared a picture where they show about some public company and how much bitcoin they hold. I think i should share for those who Will be interested on it.

You haven't discovered anything new, these are the data that have been known for months - @fillippone opened the thread Bitcoin Treasuries on October 2020. Everyone else uses this information for their promotional purposes, as is the case with this service that promotes their wallet among other things.



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July 28, 2021, 10:09:31 AM
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The list in the opening post is about public companies which own Bitcoin. The three companies you provide do not directly own Bitcoin but have shares in companies which deal with Bitcoins or indirectly use Bitcoin. So they are not really qualified to be added to the list.
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July 28, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
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These companies and entities want your hard earned coins. If you sell these days you'll regret it in a few year times. Remember the words of Hal Finney here on the forum when he said that Bitcoin was the best bet of a lifetime. It could have been mined for pennies in 2009-2011 and look where it's now.
If you own the keys, don't sell. If you can wait, wait.
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July 28, 2021, 10:21:22 AM
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These companies and entities want your hard earned coins. If you sell these days you'll regret it in a few year times. Remember the words of Hal Finney here on the forum when he said that Bitcoin was the best bet of a lifetime. It could have been mined for pennies in 2009-2011 and look where it's now.
If you own the keys, don't sell. If you can wait, wait.
There should be a time when you have to sell it especially if you have accumulated enough to be safe in a lifetime, I agree that we should be hodling and not selling them because the companies will definitely benefit from all of this thing, best thing to do is buy now no matter how high the prices is and then wait for it to grow.

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July 28, 2021, 04:16:57 PM
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These companies and entities want your hard earned coins. If you sell these days you'll regret it in a few year times.
With $1, you are able to buy less and less number of satoshi when time goes on.
https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/satoshi-per-dollar/
When you have less Bitcoin with same fiat, you have to use satoshi for transactions, not Bitcoin. $0.01 for each satoshi, can you imagine that price?
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If Bitcoin were to grow to become the single world currency—replacing all those that the M1 figure is comprised of—then each BTC would be worth $1 million. Because there are 100 million satoshi in each Bitcoin, this would place the value of each satoshi at $0.01.
https://coinmetrics.io/bitcoin-an-unprecedented-experiment-in-fair-distribution/

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Remember the words of Hal Finney here on the forum when he said that Bitcoin was the best bet of a lifetime. It could have been mined for pennies in 2009-2011 and look where it's now.
Why is Bitcoin’s supply limit set to 21 million?

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To own keys, choose a good non custodial wallet. Jameson Lopp has a neat guide for wallet Recommended wallets

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July 28, 2021, 06:45:12 PM
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I wonder where the other 13M bitcoin are?

More and more are going into private equity companies, one of the differences is
that they dont have to make public what they own, look at Revolut who offer different
Bitcoin services to their customers, we dont know how many Bitcoin they own,
well at least I couldnt find it.




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