I need help!

[mafafojr]

One last "last" question.

I forgot to ask you if your wallet is HD...
If you're using the GUI, look at the lower-right part of the client.
There should be an 'HD' text-icon there, check if it's "HD" or an "HD" (but 'slash' instead of strikethrough).

The answer will answer the major question in this thread.

Yes is HD.
 I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

One last "last" question.

I forgot to ask you if your wallet is HD...
If you're using the GUI, look at the lower-right part of the client.
There should be an 'HD' text-icon there, check if it's "HD" or an "HD" (but 'slash' instead of strikethrough).

The answer will answer the major question in this thread.

Yes is HD. Can you tell me the difference betwen the 2 hd wallets? i mean the one with the line over
 I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Do you think i need an older bitcoin core wallet? like from 2013 or 2014

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[nc50lc]

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

[mafafojr]

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

I just swear by my fathers bones mining a bunch and i getting a little desperate with this.I remember using pywallet and get it back but i dont remember how to build pywallet from scratch. I see a bunch of downloads for install pywallet whit python 2.7 ready to go but i dont know if got a malware or something and finishing loosing all my bitcoin.

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

like i stated before then buy a new pc with good memory and download again to see if the rescan begin since the block 0 and not from block 155,564 or some like that because i understand that doesnt read since first block because lack of memory thats what i thinking. I rescan it twice.


I got a file named Bitcoin-wallet.1 but i dont find the wallet.dat file.

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

Its weird because i got 5 files named.
1.bitcoin-cli.1
2,bitcoind.1
3.bitcoin-qt.1
4.bitcoin-tx.1
5.bitcoin-wallet.1
all from the may 31 that i downloaded the bitcoin core. I found a wallet.dat file but was created today not the same day i download the program.


 I download bitcoin.exe unsigned and everything run smooth. I dont know how i install a unsigned bitcoin core version. i understand in the way to install a unsigned version of the program will be really up hill to me or not?
or its the same signed and unsigned?

I download bitcoin.exe unsigned and everything run smooth. I dont know how i install a unsigned bitcoin core version. i understand in the way to install a unsigned version of the program will be really up hill to me or not? i was more younger for that years and deal with programs and stuff but i loose my ability by the years.
or its the same signed and unsigned?

No i dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the file from the new Bitcoin core that i download and took like month and a half downloading the blockchain. With my passphrase i create the wallet and always got the same file. I will buy a better computer to download again bitcoin core because i using an old laptop running on low memory just like 11.5 gb left.
I believe that every node download the blockchain from block 0. Took like 10 to 20 second for each block to download last time i saw the bitcoin was long years ago.

You can't just recover your old wallet by using the same password from your new wallet.

You need to find the old wallet.dat file do you have this?

If you don't have the old wallet.dat file you can't able to recover your old wallet with Balances.

Try to check the wallet folder and maybe the old wallet is there.
If you are using Windows OS you can find it on %APPDATA%\Bitcoin type it on "Run" you can press WinKey+R to open "Run" and paste that shortcut if it doesn't work you can try to type this %APPDATA%\ then enter then look for Bitcoin folder then wallet.

Then check the wallet folder if it shows 2 files with .dat files(E.g. wallet.dat and wallet1.dat). So if you found two wallets there is a possibility that one of these is your old wallet.

I found the file with your instruction but is encrypte y can read a little of it. What i can do to decrypt it looks like one file years ago i encrtpted and put it on my cellphone micro sd. i think i need a notepad c++ on way to be readable. It said keymeta everywhere this is the file with the bunch of key metadata.i unlock the wallet and see the file again but is still encrypted. i dont goin to sleep till i make this work.

 I unlocked the wallet and see if show in human readable format but still encrypted. I think if i use something like pywallet it will work because  i got all the passwords. But is a freaking bunch of stuff like a lot. I will keep looking for info or something but any help will be good.


Reading and looking for info its look like ASCII encrytion i am pretty sure is ascII. I will try to get a app or something to help on this.
 Some help will be fine. Its got all the characters of that type of encryption.

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[NotATether]

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

OP said "Yes i got the wallet.dat file but from the new bitcoin core wallet." That means he must have unintentionally created a new wallet file when he downloaded and ran Bitcoin Core a second time (presumably on Windows).


@mafaojr, do have a copy of the OLD wallet.dat from 2009-2010 lying around somewhere that you can open inside Bitcoin Core? Or do you just have the new wallet file?

Do you see any of your 10,000BTC in the new wallet file? Because if you don't, then there's no point in trying to extract the private keys since they are for empty addresses. You should open the old wallet.dat file instead.

[mafafojr]

I look couple of addresses but nothing i think all of them are new.

Then it's not a wallet.dat from 2009-2010 or even a few years after because AFAIK HD functionality was just introduced in 2016.
Bitcoin core's version is not the issue.

OP said "Yes i got the wallet.dat file but from the new bitcoin core wallet." That means he must have unintentionally created a new wallet file when he downloaded and ran Bitcoin Core a second time (presumably on Windows).


@mafaojr, do have a copy of the OLD wallet.dat from 2009-2010 lying around somewhere that you can open inside Bitcoin Core? Or do you just have the new wallet file?

Do you see any of your 10,000BTC in the new wallet file? Because if you don't, then there's no point in trying to extract the private keys since they are for empty addresses. You should open the old wallet.dat file instead.

 I dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the new one but i read and said keymeta a lot of characters and separators and is a big list. The dumpwallet none of them said keymeta or nothing just the address and the private key. But this file its encrypted it look like ascII.

[NotATether]

I dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the new one but i read and said keymeta a lot of characters and separators and is a big list. The dumpwallet none of them said keymeta or nothing just the address and the private key. But this file its encrypted it look like ascII.

Well have you sent any bitcoin transaction from the old wallet to the new one?

If you haven't, and you lost all the copies of the old wallet.dat, I'm afraid you lost access to the bitcoins (especially if the wallet copies were deleted a long time ago).

[mafafojr]

I dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the new one but i read and said keymeta a lot of characters and separators and is a big list. The dumpwallet none of them said keymeta or nothing just the address and the private key. But this file its encrypted it look like ascII.

Well have you sent any bitcoin transaction from the old wallet to the new one?

If you haven't, and you lost all the copies of the old wallet.dat, I'm afraid you lost access to the bitcoins (especially if the wallet copies were deleted a long time ago).

I just know that looks like the same file i keep on my cellphone micro sd from the last time i see the bitcoin. I know that wallet.file is the old one. I remember i encrypted with the password i got. It was a bunch of addresses and private keys. now to complete the wallet.dat file change for a notepad symbol and yes i make 2 transaction from the wallet and then instead of 4,005 encryoted keys got 4011 encrypted keys. The wallet add ^ keys more for those transactions. How i got 4,011 transactions now? the wallet added  the transaction with the old ones.

I dont got the old wallet.dat file i got the new one but i read and said keymeta a lot of characters and separators and is a big list. The dumpwallet none of them said keymeta or nothing just the address and the private key. But this file its encrypted it look like ascII.

Well have you sent any bitcoin transaction from the old wallet to the new one?

If you haven't, and you lost all the copies of the old wallet.dat, I'm afraid you lost access to the bitcoins (especially if the wallet copies were deleted a long time ago).

I just know that looks like the same file i keep on my cellphone micro sd from the last time i see the bitcoin. I know that wallet.file is the old one. I remember i encrypted with the password i got. It was a bunch of addresses and private keys. now to complete the wallet.dat file change for a notepad symbol and yes i make 2 transaction from the wallet and then instead of 4,005 encryoted keys got 4011 encrypted keys. The wallet add ^ keys more for those transactions. How i got 4,011 transactions now? the wallet added  the transaction with the old ones.

Do you see the pics showing the before and after the transactions?


i got 2 file 1 said wallet and the other one wallet.dat.

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[mafafojr]

Hi ive read the posts and see you still trying? Did you see your balance in bitcoin core or does it say 0 balance? So I hope you still have your wallet from 2010. Did you ever find the address that has your mined bitcoins in blockchain.com.

yes i still trying, but i got 2 file both encrpted and both are differen by it looks. Im really having hard times. what nobody understan is that even if i delete the program and downloaded again i still got the same file and is the same i got already from years ago in my cellphone. But i know i will get it back. Just need help thats it.

[mafafojr]

Ok so i see you got some of your private keys from bitcoin core. You need go to www.electrum.org and download it, then create new wallet on that. Then sweep your private keys to new address. If it shows balance on electrum then you are right if not then you had wrong key. If you can email me i can help you further.
Also make sure you make copy of 2 wallets you got wallet and wallet.dat and put them in new folder so you dont mess it up. This is important, just right click copy and paste them somewhere else.

Ok i do the 2 backups already. I was trying to download a c++ notepad plugin or something  to decrypt the file. I remember long time ago get my bitcoinback with pywallet and store the file in the micro sd of my cellphone and its unbelievable that i can do nothing with even with password and everything.

[mafafojr]

Ok so i see you got some of your private keys from bitcoin core. You need go to www.electrum.org and download it, then create new wallet on that. Then sweep your private keys to new address. If it shows balance on electrum then you are right if not then you had wrong key. If you can email me i can help you further.
Also make sure you make copy of 2 wallets you got wallet and wallet.dat and put them in new folder so you dont mess it up. This is important, just right click copy and paste them somewhere else.

your email was on the mining section and its deleted already. Can you write your email again to email you.

[mafafojr]

Hi ive read the posts and see you still trying? Did you see your balance in bitcoin core or does it say 0 balance? So I hope you still have your wallet from 2010. Did you ever find the address that has your mined bitcoins in blockchain.com.

I see your post and you were trying to sell a binance account? Thats look really shady.

[mafafojr]

Thanks for everybody help. I will keep trying because i am sure what i am talking about not about tha computer skill but sure on what i got.

[nc50lc]

-snip- But i know i will get it back. Just need help thats it.

I'd just like to suggest you to please be careful on sending information and files over email/PM.
Specially your wallet.dat, your passphrase and the file where your alleged encrypted private keys are.

Keep the discussion public without giving private information as much as possible so other users can comment on the legitimacy of the "help" you're getting.

I wont reply any further until the inconsistencies are cleared.

Regards.

[mafafojr]

Now after all i just got the result that 2,010 are missing now from my freaking famous wallet.file just got 2,001 left i keep it up.
 After all i will going to make it anyways. Thanks for the advices but i dont trust nobody i will not give my email to the first who asking for.
Thats why i dont want my files to a wallet recovery services.

[Btcspot]

 Hi how can you say that? You never sent a password or anything? I dont know how did you make error. Anyways I am here if you want my help. You know where to find me, check your posts. I might be the last person that can save you from the crazy problem.

[NotATether]

@mafafojr:

Not directly related to your problem, but you should group all of your consecutive replies in one post. This makes it easier for people who want to find information to quote your post without wading through several pages (as you can see, a moderator has merged some of your posts already)

I just know that looks like the same file i keep on my cellphone micro sd from the last time i see the bitcoin. I know that wallet.file is the old one. I remember i encrypted with the password i got. It was a bunch of addresses and private keys. now to complete the wallet.dat file change for a notepad symbol and yes i make 2 transaction from the wallet and then instead of 4,005 encryoted keys got 4011 encrypted keys. The wallet add ^ keys more for those transactions. How i got 4,011 transactions now? the wallet added  the transaction with the old ones.

Ignore the extra keys. It's bitcoin core making extra reserve keys as you make transactions, about 1000 at a time, in case you need more of them in the future.

How many addresses do you see in the wallet? the number of those is what you should be focused on because there's the same number of private keys in the wallet that could actually contain a useful balance.

[mafafojr]

 Yes guys to let you know that theres no keys. like someone says here used keys or something but well no keys and computer broke with no remedy to recover any date haha> at least im back to learn more about computers, thanks for all the help very smart people here.
 Remember the real knowledge is on the LOVE and COMPASSION with others, keep it up the god job with the forum guys.
  See you all on the next post asking for stupid and crazy things after buy a new pc this or the next week for my lovely bitcoin full node.

  Thsnks to all and have a nice weekend!!!  

  Link of the pic:  https://ibb.co/gtzXr27

[kaggie]

Hi to everyone!
 I need some help because suddenly i remember mining like crazy in the early days late 2009 to 2010 somewhere there and back and forward along the years till like 2017-2018 then i completely forget about it.
...
i ve been hours trying to do this barely sleep reading and trying to do something without results. I remember in 2010 having almost 10,000 bitcoin i ven can believe it and thats a fact. Let see how this goes for the good!

If you had that many coin from 2009 and 2010, then WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU MENTION IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM!???!?!

Don't you know that you probably now made yourself a target -- from international intelligence and tax collectors!
Can you imagine how much you might owe in tax, and would be unable to pay??

I wouldn't just be losing sleep over lost bitcoin...

[HCP]

Yes its the latter .  Bitcoin qt got
1,password
2.passphrase

No... that is not how Bitcoin QT (aka Bitcoin Core) works.

Bitcoin QT originally had NO password at all, there was no wallet file encryption. Version 0.4.0 (Sep 2011), they added wallet encryption: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.4.0

Bitcoin QT/Core has never used a recovery "passphrase" system that wallets like Exodus/Jaxx/Coinomi/Electrum and hardware wallets use. Bitcoin QT/Core has always relied on making backups of the wallet.dat file.

Maybe people forget the password and just got the passphrase. At least in my case i download bitcoin core put the same password and the same passphrase and got my old info and the old configuration.

If you download Bitcoin Core onto a new computer and run it, it will create a brand new wallet.dat file with completely new private keys/addresses... even if you use the same password as a previous wallet, the private keys/addresses will be different.

You can NOT recover your wallet in Bitcoin Core simply by using the same password. You absolutely must have a copy of the previous wallet.dat file... if you don't have a copy, then you will never recover your old wallet.

How i can explain the hole bunch of encrypted key with metadata its will be impossible i think.

No, it's not impossible. All you are seeing is the "new" keys/addresses that have been created in your new wallet.


Again, with Bitcoin Core, to recover your old wallet, you need a backup copy of the original wallet.dat... there is no recovery passphrase option available.