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Question: Check out RainbowKun's article to see if forums really need deep knowledge.
1. I have never read RainbowKun's articles, and I am not interested in his articles. - 5 (18.5%)
2. I often see RainbowKun's articles, but his articles are just word wall, which is hard to read. - 8 (29.6%)
3. The ideas in his articles are very original, but often difficult to understand. - 11 (40.7%)
4. The forum was flooded with so many low-quality articles that I had a hard time finding anything worthwhile. - 2 (7.4%)
5. I don't want to answer too complex questions, which will consume more energy. - 0 (0%)
6. I randomly read forum topics and reply to any post I see. - 1 (3.7%)
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July 29, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
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A very touching thing happened on the forum yesterday. Hero member MV1986 has recommended RainbowKun's several posts in [Self-moderated] Report Unmerited Good Posts to Merit Source.

In the recommendation he gave RainbowKun a high rating, saying that he contributed to the effective discussion of Bitcointalk, and that he put in enough effort that he deserves more merit. But it is clear that RainbowKUN current merit is not matched by his current contributions to the forum.

Hi guys,

coincidentally came across this thread and one guy who I am also in touch with via PM because of all the research he does came to my mind as someone who really contributes to fruitful discussions on Bitcointalk. He also initiates discussions with a variety of topics, is super responsive and deserves a lot of merits if you ask me. He puts a lot of effort into his posts obviously and he isn't a once in a month poster. Sadly, we don't have very many newcomers who seek healthy and fruitful discussions about the core characteristics of Bitcoin as a higher order global system. I hope you give him some credit for his efforts.

User: RainbowKun
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Few selected posts:

Bitcoin and Keynes Plan
Take a look at the future of Bitcoin from the gold standard system
Is Bitcoin possible to build a new "Bretton Woods system
Do you think Bitcoin has matter property?
Why do many people call Bitcoin "digital gold"?
Do you know any game theory tucked inside Bitcoin?
Is the Bitcoin community a DAO?  
Why can Bitcoin change human relations of production?  

Thanks, cheers and enjoy the green candles! Wink

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Quoting myself here just to say a big thank you to you guys for sending all those merits to RainbowKun. He seriously deserves it and I can tell you he is planning on expanding his series of articles even further. I allow myself to quote a little part of his PM in which he also said thank you to me for recommending him to you guys.

"To be honest, my articles are not as popular in this forum as I originally thought. Many of them are purely philosophical thinking, and they are not the type that existing forum users like"

I think this is exactly what many of us complain about on this forum. This guy just came here to find like-minded thinkers or at least people who are open for deep and substantial discussions.

Again, nice to see this thread work as intended!

MV
When MV1986 recommended him, RainbowKun's merit at that time was 17. When I wrote this topic one day later, his merit increased to 66, which directly increased by 49 in just one day. This is a very proud achievement for both the old legend members and the forum novices.

Apparently, with the recommendation of MV1986, many old members recognized RainbowKun's article and generously awarded merit. This is a very moving thing. Bitcointalk members find good knowledge, recommend it to others, and gain recognition from more people.


loyceV gave away 12 in Bitcoin and Keynes Plan, and COOLCRYPTOVATOR gave away 8

But at the same time, I was wondering, do we really need some depth of knowledge in our forum?

RainbowKun is a rising star of BitcoinTalk.

I have been paying close attention to his articles, and I gave him his first merit. I just briefly read his article information, he posted 24 separate threads in 28 days in July, which is close to one per day. In addition, each of his articles is more than 500 words, which is an amazing output of creation, which also shows his contribution to our forum knowledge.

I read almost every one of his articles, though in many cases I didn't really understand what he was saying. The content of his article is very logical, and the content is basically around the deep thinking about bitcoin.

He always makes a point, then builds his argument based on that point, and finally comes to a conclusion. No matter whether his views or arguments are correct or not, he can always write out his thinking process, which inspires me.

For example
Do you know any game theory tucked inside Bitcoin?, he talked about the game theory knowledge contained in the Bitcoin network, and he talked about a lot of things THAT I hadn't thought about.

Bitcoin and Keynes Plan, he talked about the relationship between bitcoin and the Keynesian plan, which made me associate bitcoin with the Keynesian plan for the first time

Why do many people call Bitcoin "digital gold"?,he talks about why bitcoin is called "digital gold." We often hear that bitcoin is "digital gold". He summed up the similarities between bitcoin and gold, and also summed up the advantages of bitcoin over gold, pointing out that bitcoin will replace gold to become a new generation of world currency.

Each of his articles inspires me in a different way and makes me think more about bitcoin.

But, in fact, as MV1986 said, his article did not get the recognition it deserved. Before being recommended by MV1986, RainbowKun only got 17 Merit points, and some articles were not well read or responded to. This got me thinking, does bitcointalk really need some depth of knowledge? What kind of knowledge is most popular in our forum?

I'd like to take a simple poll, where you can write your real thoughts and discuss the topic further.

1. I have never read RainbowKun's articles, and I am not interested in his articles.
2. I often see RainbowKun's articles, but his articles are just word wall, which is hard to read.
3. The ideas in his articles are very original, but often difficult to understand.
4. The forum was flooded with so many low-quality articles that I had a hard time finding anything worthwhile.
5. I don't want to answer too complex questions, which will consume more energy.
6. I randomly read forum topics and reply to any post I see.

These are some of my thoughts on RainbowKun's article, and I hope more similar in-depth knowledge will appear on the forum. Although I don't understand a lot of knowledge at the moment, I will keep learning. Learn from heroes, legends and other great members and contribute more to the forum.





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July 29, 2021, 11:11:04 AM
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What kind of knowledge is most popular in our forum?

I have no idea, but i prefer something like this Breaking Mixing Services.

I'd like to take a simple poll, where you can write your real thoughts and discuss the topic further.

1. I have never read RainbowKun's articles, and I am not interested in his articles.
2. I often see RainbowKun's articles, but his articles are just word wall, which is hard to read.
3. The ideas in his articles are very original, but often difficult to understand.
4. The forum was flooded with so many low-quality articles that I had a hard time finding anything worthwhile.
5. I don't want to answer too complex questions, which will consume more energy.
6. I randomly read forum topics and reply to any post I see.

7. I have read some RainbowKun's articles, but usually I am not interested in his articles.

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July 29, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
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In the recommendation he gave RainbowKun a high rating, saying that he contributed to the effective discussion of Bitcointalk, and that he put in enough effort that he deserves more merit. But it is clear that RainbowKUN current merit is not matched by his current contributions to the forum.

His threads could not go unnoticed given their number in the Bitcoin Discussion board, so anyone who did not ignore that board could reward him if he thought he deserved it. Personally, I am not in favor of merit sources being influenced in this way, but that is something that is not against the rules of the forum.

RainbowKun is a rising star of BitcoinTalk.

If you think so, but given the topics he chooses and the writing style and the interaction he encourages - I don't see that too many active users are thrilled with the way you perceive it.

...he posted 24 separate threads in 28 days in July, which is close to one per day. In addition, each of his articles is more than 500 words, which is an amazing output of creation, which also shows his contribution to our forum knowledge.

I read almost every one of his articles, though in many cases I didn't really understand what he was saying.

You mostly don't understand what he's talking about, but you're fascinated by how much content he can produce in a short amount of time. This is a bit strange though, as the quality does not come from the walls of the text and the number of threads.

I have nothing against the user in question so that someone would not misunderstand me. I can agree with ETFbitcoin that I have read some of his posts, but in general, I am not too interested in such discussions.

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July 29, 2021, 01:56:49 PM
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That's what that thread is for, and it's one of my favorites.

I don't think I've read any of RainbowKun's posts, because they're apparently all in Bitcoin Discussion which I have on ignore (because of all the spam threads and posts).  No doubt if he'd posted those interesting threads in Economics, I'd have merited them.

His threads could not go unnoticed given their number in the Bitcoin Discussion board, so anyone who did not ignore that board could reward him if he thought he deserved it. Personally, I am not in favor of merit sources being influenced in this way, but that is something that is not against the rules of the forum.
Merit sources are just members who've (sometimes) volunteered to be distributors of merit, and they have no obligation to keep any sections un-ignored if they so choose.  I assume that's what you meant in your above statement, though it wasn't entirely clear what "being influenced in this way" was referring to.  As I said above, I've got Bitcoin Discussion on ignore, and that's just one section of many.  There's too much garbage in too many sections to keep looking at new threads popping up in my unread threads feed that I know I'm not going to read.  Believe me, I'd love to not have to ignore Bitcoin Discussion--it should be the most interesting and important section on bitcointalk, but the reality is that it isn't and hasn't been for years.

You mostly don't understand what he's talking about, but you're fascinated by how much content he can produce in a short amount of time. This is a bit strange though, as the quality does not come from the walls of the text and the number of threads.
Lol.  Excellent point.

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Merit sources are just members who've (sometimes) volunteered to be distributors of merit, and they have no obligation to keep any sections un-ignored if they so choose.

Of course, there is no obligation on your part to visit certain parts of the forum, but I have always thought that it is bad to ignore, in my opinion, very important parts of the forum, such as the Bitcoin Discussion board. Regardless of your belief that there is too much garbage and spam, I regularly read, post and report anything I think is bad or against forum rules. It may not mean much, but it makes more sense to me than the option to ignore the whole board.

I assume that's what you meant in your above statement, though it wasn't entirely clear what "being influenced in this way" was referring to.

If someone opens 30 threads in 30 days, and they are all supposedly very high quality, how is it possible to get only 17 merits - does this mean that most merit sources have that board on ignore? I just want to say that it would be more natural for merits sources to find posts worth merits, than to draw their attention to them in this way. Although I understand that people value their time more than anything else.

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You mostly don't understand what he's talking about, but you're fascinated by how much content he can produce in a short amount of time. This is a bit strange though, as the quality does not come from the walls of the text and the number of threads.
Lol.  Excellent point.

I think the same.

I believe that user RainbowKun is making a positive contribution to the forum and was probably being undermerited.

But I also don't share the OP's enthusiasm for his posts. I had seen some and what I see is that, maybe they are too long for a forum and to me in general they don't tell me things that I don't already know.

Quantity of very long posts does not equal quality, although I understand that he is a decent poster and may be evolving in the forum and getting more and more merits.

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I may or may not have saw one(or a few) of his articles, and if I did, it's highly likely that I skipped through them. There's just this thing with me in the past that every time I actually spend time and focus on reading a decently long topic, I mostly get disappointed in the end. I mean, there are just so much topics that are made long in purpose just for it to hopefully look more "high quality" or something. You know, merit hunters.

But yea, will check him out.

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I will answer honestly that I chose point 1, although answers 2,5,6 may also be suitable here.
For fun reading, you need a design. I think this is convenient for many. And reading walls of texts, albeit very worthy ones, take a lot of time, and energy.
And let's be fair, no matter how much he received merits in one day, I am more than sure that only a few have read his posts thoroughly. I'm not sure if the sources of merit are giving out the merit after reading all the texts. He can be respected for his diligence, but reading is very exhausting. And the fact that they reacted so much yesterday with a lot of merits does not mean that they did not notice this author before.
You know, there is a good expression that sounds like "a good product does not need advertising."

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Regardless of your belief that there is too much garbage and spam, I regularly read, post and report anything I think is bad or against forum rules. It may not mean much, but it makes more sense to me than the option to ignore the whole board.
It's good that you post in that section, because you make good posts and that adds to the quality of Bitcoin Discussion--and I am by no means criticizing you for doing so, so hopefully my post didn't come off that way.  

I'll admit that I do, on occasion, un-ignore Bitcoin Discussion when there don't seem to be many interesting threads in my feed, so it's not like I never visit it.  In fact, I created a thread in BD not too long ago, which you probably saw if you're a regular there.  In fact, I gave out merits to most of the members who posted in it.  

As I said, I don't like ignoring Bitcoin Discussion (and Altcoin Discussion as well, since I do like reading about altcoins).  It should be kept clean as far as low-quality posts, but it isn't and we all know it.  It ought to be a section that no one would even want to ignore, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has it on ignore.  I think it's probably improved since the inception of the merit system, but it's still got a cockroach problem if you know what I mean.

Edit:  I just un-ignored Bitcoin Discussion and picked a thread I thought might be interesting, one about bitcoin in movies.  In the last 3 pages or so, there were these absolute crap posts:

it.is indeed.very good to make a film about bitcoin but whether.the film will be a lot.of people watching.it, I think if.this is the case.it would.be good to be considered again considering.that later people who do not understand will look for bitcoin and moreover.they do not understand at all this, because bitcoin is currently.no longer necessary to be introduced to various forms.of films as.discussed, right?
it is very natural that the project about bitcoin failed.  because no one knows bitcoin sources until now.  Satoshi Nakamoto was never seen and appeared.  So where is the reference for the movie?  if forced to make it possible the bitcoin film storyline will be inappropriate and seem only imagination.
It would be nice to have a bitcoin movie,but I will love it to be in from of documentary not fully  movie , in a movie it will be a highlight of what we already know, but a documentary , maybe Crypto philanatropist will have one or two things to say about bitcoin , but all the same a bitcoin movie will be find tho
I think your idea is also great and the movie is about BTC investors or anything positive about BTC. can show many people who are not familiar with today's digital currency the benefits of investing in BTC and its popularity later, if you don't buy it now you will regret it.
We must use the latest technologies to do everything right, so that the new generation is on our side.
A very good idea, with a movie made by a big company Warner Bros or Universal will certainly increase the popularity of bitcoin, in my opinion the most eligible to sponsor are exchanges such as Binance, Kucoin, Huobii and so on.
And this is the type of stuff I'm talking about when I say the section is infested with shitposters.

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Currently, the fact of accepting BTC as payment for goods in the amazon store has not been confirmed as true, because currently I have not seen the option to pay in BTC, so the news has not been confirmed to be true the truth.

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I have no idea, but i prefer something like this Breaking Mixing Services.
Yes, I know you "Just a Bitcoin geek" Wink, you should have your favorite part-Development & Technical Discussion.

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7. I have read some RainbowKun's articles, but usually I am not interested in his articles.
I knew there should be this option,but I deliberately removed it,It’s not very friendly to him and may hurt him . The topic I want to discuss is not RainbowKUN itself but this matter as an example.

I am not in favor of merit sources being influenced in this way, but that is something that is not against the rules of the forum.
I think the advantages of this matter outweigh the disadvantages. This allows members who are only active in a specific section to have the opportunity to see good posts in other sections.

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You mostly don't understand what he's talking about, but you're fascinated by how much content he can produce in a short amount of time.
I don't understand some of the content of his article because I don't have the knowledge of this part. For example, the Bretton Woods system and the gold standard. I think it is difficult to write such articles if you don't have a good understanding of that part of history. This is also the reason why I admire him. I have not been able to write such articles in recent years at least.

Of course I am not a “fan” of him, I just want to discuss my topic through him.

That's what that thread is for, and it's one of my favorites.
I only recently learned that there is such a topic, I like this very much, it can save my time and help me find high-quality posts Cheesy

I just want to say that it would be more natural for merits sources to find posts worth merits, than to draw their attention to them in this way. Although I understand that people value their time more than anything else.
This is also the reason for the existence of [Self-moderated] Report Unmerited Good Posts to Merit Source., saving us time , Recommend to others for high-quality posts (at least higher quality than most posts)






I will answer honestly that I chose point 1, although answers 2,5,6 may also be suitable here.
For fun reading, you need a design. I think this is convenient for many. And reading walls of texts, albeit very worthy ones, take a lot of time, and energy.
And let's be fair, no matter how much he received merits in one day, I am more than sure that only a few have read his posts thoroughly. I'm not sure if the sources of merit are giving out the merit after reading all the texts. He can be respected for his diligence, but reading is very exhausting. And the fact that they reacted so much yesterday with a lot of merits does not mean that they did not notice this author before.
You know, there is a good expression that sounds like "a good product does not need advertising."
lol, yes. There is also such a saying in my country, the fragrance of wine is not afraid of deep alleys.But there is another saying that you can’t see through the flesh through the skin.

Yes, you are right, in addition to good content, we also need some typesetting skills.It took me a few hours to master the various posting formats in bitcointalk.Maybe RainbowKUN still needs to learn in this part. Wink

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Edit:  I just un-ignored Bitcoin Discussion and picked a thread I thought might be interesting, one about bitcoin in movies.  In the last 3 pages or so, there were these absolute crap posts:
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I remember when I joined, I mainly post on two boards, 'Bitcoin discussion' and 'Beginners and help'. It was kind of psychologically taken by me which I believed same to most newbies. If I did not go deeper to study and know more about bitcoin, I might not have started posting on other boards. Also the newbies that later become stale members but bounty hunters will like the old way, they will like to post where they were posting before. If you check many of the threads on those two boards, maybe the first page discouraged you, but the third and so on pages will more discouraged you as it will be full of bounty hunters posts which are of low quality. What I usually do is to read only good poster's contents there and also correcting some OP posts. I have noticed checking every boards on this forum is not easy, this can lead to some good active posters to ignor some boards full of low quality posts of the newbies and bounty hunters to focus on boards full of quality posters.

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This topic is a little bit biased..

Three poll options are about possible negative qualities of the articles, whilst the other three are about how the forum or reader supposedly sucks. Where's the neutral or good options?

The title, "to see if forums really need depth knowledge", presents the assumption that these articles are comprehensive.
The poll options seem to put the blame more on the user, rather than the quality of these articles. There aren't a directly positive or directly negative poll options, like they could be if they were
"I have read these articles, and find them informative or thought inspiring"
"I have read these articles, and found them to not be interesting"
or
"The ideas are very original, and well written"
"The ideas are very original, but poorly presented"

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The titles of the articles are very interesting.  
It seems like it would read well as a book that I could give to someone, with a few edits.
It is solid as a base layer introduction to themes, and it must take time to construct these.
But as a forum post that's meant to inspire discussion, in what looks to be more hardcore bitcoin forum,
I find the articles to be a bit wordy with more room for exploration and improved clarity.

Let's take the "what is game theory?" post.
When I read the original
Game theory is a new embranchment of modern mathematics and an important subject of operations research, covering many ideas in economics. It revolves around the interaction among formulated incentive structures, mathematical theory and method of competition. It takes individual predicative behavior and actual behavior into consideration and explore their optimized strategy. It refers to the action of two or more people, by taking advantage of the strategy of the opposite party, to adjust their own tactics and finally win victory. Briefly, in an interactive game, while you’re choosing your own approach, you have to predict others’ decisions. Similarly, others’ are thinking over yours as well. It’s a multi-game process where everyone strives to maximize his own interest.
I feel like I never got the definition of what game theory was. It's there, but it's in the 'Briefly,' sentence that appears near the end after reading wordy lines.
I feel cheated when I read 'Briefly,' after reading a paragraph. Small tweaks in the writing style would help a lot to clarify the messages. To demonstrate, I've used those sentences, shortened and reorganized, and feel much more satisfied by the end:
Briefly, in an interactive game, while you’re choosing your own approach, you have to predict others’ decisions. Similarly, others’ are thinking over yours as well.
Game theory refers to the action of two or more people, by taking advantage of the strategy of the opposite party, to adjust their own tactics and finally win victory. It’s a multi-game process where everyone strives to maximize his own interest.

This new important subject of operations research covers many formulated ideas in economics, incentive structures, mathematical theory and method of competition. It takes individual predicative behavior and actual behavior into consideration and explore their optimized strategy.
Much better?
I feel this way when reading a lot of this author.

I feel cheated when I read the writing because I want the rest of the thought or implications closer to a point.

But perhaps the reason I feel that is because I don't understand vantage point of the author compared with the audience,
keeping in mind that the audience is forum members with a probable high degree of knowledge, considering
that they took the time to make an account on a very specialised forum..

Since I don't have a feel for who the writer is, I don't feel that I can appropriately judge the work
and the motivation. Is it a person new, intermediate, or expert to bitcoin? It lacks the emotion of a newb, the deep twists of an expert, and
presents a very sterile intermediate view. So, what's the angle? Is it to promote bitcoin? Is it excitement about what crypto can do? Is it genuine belief?
I hope it's genuine belief. I also tend to view everything on this forum as mildly suspicious, so that colors my views..
I feel confused as to whether it's someone who is genuinely learning who will do well, especially with more experience and practise,
where dialogue would help them improve? Or is it someone who will one day pop out to turn around and sell something, because the topics are very regular with a lot of time put into them,
so it seems out of place to have a pure hobbyist write so frequently? Because I don't have a grasp of the person's motivation, I don't know how to respond and don't engage.

So, RainbowKun, if you are reading this, I hope you to continue. You've got a lot of potential there, but think about how you might change the presentation?
Perhaps you can delve deeper into specific sub-themes in your topics. Some of the themes within your writing are presented only briefly that an ordinary person may be
unfamiliar with, so you can take time to explain some of that as well. Maybe even consider writing a book, but get some friends to review it for things that you can clarify further?

I hope that my writing here is genuinely helpful here. I try not to be so critical unless I think it can help..
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Rainbowkun is good poster his thread are really helpful to anyone here in forum I read some post of rainbowkun and I really amaze of his articles so I suggest to give him a merit cause his thread is meritable thread
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I see RainbowKun's posts and topics on the forum. The user is very productive to make topics and they are usually very wordy. I see the user spent time for topics and put efforts into them.

Many smerits were sent to RainbowKun's topics and posts but it does not a mark that those topics are high quality. Sometimes merit sources need to empty their sources and they can sent smerits more than usual as well as sending to give new members motivation to keep up good contributions.

Good contributions don't mean high quality.

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First of all, I would like to thank MV1986 and kxwhalexk for recommending my article, and also to ETFbitcoin, Lucius, The Pharmacist, Poker Player, mk4, lovesmayfamilis, Aliceooo78, Charles-Tim, kaggie, these friends for discussing this post. My energy this month has basically been devoted to writing articles. I really didn't expect that I would be discussed here today. At the same time, the number of merits I currently have is really limited, and I can only express my gratitude with one merit per person. Because of my limited energy, I still continue to write articles, and I will not reply to others one by one. I mainly make a collective reply in this reply from kaggie.



Let's take the "what is game theory?" post.
When I read the original
Game theory is a new embranchment of modern mathematics and an important subject of operations research, covering many ideas in economics. It revolves around the interaction among formulated incentive structures, mathematical theory and method of competition. It takes individual predicative behavior and actual behavior into consideration and explore their optimized strategy. It refers to the action of two or more people, by taking advantage of the strategy of the opposite party, to adjust their own tactics and finally win victory. Briefly, in an interactive game, while you’re choosing your own approach, you have to predict others’ decisions. Similarly, others’ are thinking over yours as well. It’s a multi-game process where everyone strives to maximize his own interest.
I feel like I never got the definition of what game theory was. It's there, but it's in the 'Briefly,' sentence that appears near the end after reading wordy lines.
I feel cheated when I read 'Briefly,' after reading a paragraph. Small tweaks in the writing style would help a lot to clarify the messages. To demonstrate, I've used those sentences, shortened and reorganized, and feel much more satisfied by the end:
Briefly, in an interactive game, while you’re choosing your own approach, you have to predict others’ decisions. Similarly, others’ are thinking over yours as well.
Game theory refers to the action of two or more people, by taking advantage of the strategy of the opposite party, to adjust their own tactics and finally win victory. It’s a multi-game process where everyone strives to maximize his own interest.

This new important subject of operations research covers many formulated ideas in economics, incentive structures, mathematical theory and method of competition. It takes individual predicative behavior and actual behavior into consideration and explore their optimized strategy.
Much better?
I feel this way when reading a lot of this author.

I feel cheated when I read the writing because I want the rest of the thought or implications closer to a point.


First of all, thank you kaggie, your writing skills are really good. Through your rewriting, the readability of this text has improved a lot, you are very good. Here I will also explain my personal situation. Because my mother tongue is not English, I usually write out the ideas I want to express in my mother tongue first, and then translate them into English. Some thoughts may be lost in the process of translation. I am now working hard to improve my English level, as much as possible so that the thought of the article is not lost in the process of translation. At the same time, in the follow-up, I will also improve my typesetting ability and try my best to improve the readability of the article by optimizing the typesetting.



Since I don't have a feel for who the writer is, I don't feel that I can appropriately judge the work
and the motivation. Is it a person new, intermediate, or expert to bitcoin? It lacks the emotion of a newb, the deep twists of an expert, and
presents a very sterile intermediate view. So, what's the angle? Is it to promote bitcoin? Is it excitement about what crypto can do? Is it genuine belief?
I feel confused as to whether it's someone who is genuinely learning who will do well, especially with more experience and practise,
where dialogue would help them improve? Or is it someone who will one day pop out to turn around and sell something, because the topics are very regular with a lot of time put into them,
so it seems out of place to have a pure hobbyist write so frequently? Because I don't have a grasp of the person's motivation, I don't know how to respond and don't engage.

So, RainbowKun, if you are reading this, I encourage you to continue. You've got a lot of potential there, but think about how you might change the presentation?
Perhaps you can delve deeper into specific sub-themes in your topics. Some of the themes within your writing are presented only briefly that an ordinary person may be
unfamiliar with, so you can take time to explain some of that as well. Maybe even consider writing a book, but get some friends to review it for things that you can clarify further?

I hope that my writing here is genuinely helpful. I try not to be so critical unless I think it can help..


Thank you very much kaggie for raising these questions. I will summarize and reply to these questions raised by kaggie. In fact, many answers have been included in my previous articles. For more details, please see my first article published on July 1:  Bitcoin is not just a currency, but represents a new human civilization.

1. First of all, I am a newbie on the bicointalk forum, but not a newbie on the blockchain. I have very rich experience in the blockchain industry, and I also have a high reputation in our homeland. I used to be a community leader of a community-based exchange. At that time, we were Binance’s biggest competitor. This project is world-famous. But because of some reasons from the founder of the project, we failed in the process of competing with Binance. At the right time in the future, I will tell the story that happened that year.

2. For the past four years, I have been doing deep learning on Bitcoin. As I learn more about Bitcoin, the more I feel the greatness of Bitcoin. In my opinion, Bitcoin is definitely not just a technology or a currency. Bitcoin represents a brand new thought. When the thought of ​​Bitcoin continues to spread around the world, Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization. This is my most basic view of Bitcoin. In the process of learning about Bitcoin, I gradually became a true believer of Bitcoin.

3. I think Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization, which covers knowledge of almost all human subjects, not only computer science, mathematics, economics, monetary science, game theory, psychology, law, but also physics , Chemistry, sociology, anthropology, etc., and even religion and philosophy. For the past four years, I have been trying to understand Bitcoin's transformation of human society from different disciplines. Because of this, I say that Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization. At that time, my thinking was fragmented. Many thoughts were forgotten in the blink of an eye. Therefore, I decided to record all these thoughts, form words, and output them in the form of articles. Such fragmented information can form systematic knowledge.

4. There are more and more Bitcoin believers all over the world. They are constantly preaching for Bitcoin, especially the Bitcointalk forum, which has gathered the most Bitcoin believers in the world. However, at present, everyone's research on Bitcoin is still limited to the fields of technology and currency, and rarely involves the fields of social science, culture, philosophy, and even religion. The articles I am writing now are mainly to trigger some thinking outside of Bitcoin technology. These philosophical thoughts are more of my judgments on the future development of Bitcoin. They are fundamentally different from technical articles. The technicality must be accurate, without any ambiguity. And the thinking of these philosophical articles will never have a standard answer. People with different knowledge backgrounds must understand differently. But whether there is a standard answer or not, let me first put forward the things that may happen in the future. You can express your opinions on the basis of these questions.

5. Every time I write an article, I try to put forward an independent point of view as much as possible, and then describe my thinking process of this point of view, and finally draw my conclusions. As a result, the number of words in each of my articles will be very large, and even many places appear very verbose, forming a wall of words. As a result, most people have no patience to read all the text, and feel that these are nonsense and worthless. But as far as I am concerned, I still find it very valuable. Because every article records the process of my independent thinking. I am not simply making a conclusion. It is very simple to come up with a conclusion. The most important thing is that I recorded the process of reaching this conclusion. When these articles meet people who are really interested in them, they will read the process of drawing conclusions and compare them with their own conclusions. Finally, I was inspired in the process of communication. At the same time, and more importantly, I will carefully read the information that everyone responds, and improve my conclusions through everyone's feedback, and ultimately improve my own knowledge system.

6. I know that these articles of mine will not be welcomed by most people. Because they have a lot of words, they are even very verbose, and some parts require deep thinking, and most people can't even read them. But I think these are not important. Writing these articles, the first thing I learned the most was myself. I let the fragmented information form a systematic knowledge, so that my own knowledge system has been substantially improved. At the same time, I firmly believe that these articles of mine are very vital. They don’t lose value as quickly as news. Most of my articles are predictions about the future of Bitcoin, and many of them are my philosophical thinking. Five years later, even ten years later, people will still see them and get inspiration from them. Therefore, I wrote them down today and let them serve as historical witnesses to the development of Bitcoin. At the same time, these views will definitely be opposed by many people, because everyone's knowledge reserves are different, and their understanding of the future of Bitcoin must be different. There is no standard answer here. I believe that 10 years from now, history will give some comments on these articles.

7. Why is my writing frequency so high? I have produced more than 20 independent articles throughout July. Because I have very limited time now. In a month, I will devote all my energy to the DAO and DeFi project that I have been preparing for more than three years. At present, throughout July or even August, during these two months, all my energy has been devoted to the writing of the article. Writing an independent opinion article a day is really a very big challenge for me. It consumes almost all of my time and energy every day. But if I don't record all my views on Bitcoin in these two months, when my project really starts, I won't have any energy to continue writing articles. So I gave up all other work in the past two months and only focused on deep thinking about Bitcoin. Write as much text as possible to record my understanding of Bitcoin. Time is really precious to me.

8. I came to bitcointalk to write,  I never asked for merit. I didn't even know the role of merit at the beginning. I don't need to make money through merit. I am not short of money myself. At the same time, I personally own the world's top blockchain development team, and they are all very good development engineers. I have many ways to make money in the crypto world. In the past month, my daily rhythm was basically writing, publishing, and then replying to some posts. This takes up almost all of my energy. I currently don't have any extra energy to read posts or rules in other sections of the forum. I just want to do my best to record all my thoughts on these bitcoins and output them. Of course, in this process, I will also meet many like-minded friends. By then, if you want to participate in my project together, you are also welcome to give me various suggestions. Because I believe that the crypto world must be community-based, and we need to rely on the power of the community to build together.

9. Each of my articles has its own logic, but they combine to form a more complete logic. Everything is to show that Bitcoin will build a new human civilization. And my future career will also revolve around this point. Give all my energy to Bitcoin. This is my core philosophy. In the future, I will also combine these articles into a book, which will be published by a publishing house, translated into different languages, and distributed in different countries. I hope that every ordinary person can understand these words written by me. This is also the reason why the text is often verbose. I try to use as detailed text as possible to explain the process of drawing a conclusion, so that in the future even people with very limited knowledge can understand what I want to express. This is part of my sermon on Bitcoin.

Finally, thank you again for all your friends’ suggestions, whether it is encouraging establishment or critical suggestions, I accept them humbly. Because of continuous communication with everyone, my own cognitive level has also improved significantly. This is the greatest wealth that these writings have brought to me. Thanks again!

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I see RainbowKun's posts and topics on the forum. The user is very productive to make topics and they are usually very wordy. I see the user spent time for topics and put efforts into them.

Many smerits were sent to RainbowKun's topics and posts but it does not a mark that those topics are high quality. Sometimes merit sources need to empty their sources and they can sent smerits more than usual as well as sending to give new members motivation to keep up good contributions.

Good contributions don't mean high quality.

I am a newcomer, I don’t feel like you, I just feel that my knowledge reserve is too little, and there are too many posts in the forum, so I don’t know how to start, I can only read some fresh posts, so I still get a lot of rewards. I feel that my cognition has improved a lot after reading, but if you ask me where I have improved, but I have no good reason. Perhaps the author's text is more concise and better, or some realistic examples are given. Does everyone feel the same? Looking forward to seeing the author's specific experiences and stories.
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  • 1.After reading such a long article, I was sweating and felt that if I didn't take notes, I would forget it after reading it. There are too many theoretical things. I think a lot of what he said is right. He has strong writing skills, strong logic, and very provocative articles. Maybe he has published books, but I always think he is very idealistic.
  • 2.I think who he is and what he does, whether he has made any achievements in the blockchain industry, is not very important, and there is no crown to enter the forum and allow us to read his thoughts. I think it is more valuable. He said that the super-sovereign currency, I am very excited after reading it, if it is realized, it is really Bitcoin that has changed the world.
  • 3.I think logical imagination is wonderful, but the most wonderful thing is to give practice. This is causality. I really want to see what he has to do besides writing articles, and then see if what he did is in line with his ideas.
    I am a realist, but I really like articles that give me room for imagination.
There is also a very important point.I think that many readers of the forum have limited cognitive abilities, and they are not uninterested in his articles, but they have not yet reached the ability to fully understand his ideas.

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July 31, 2021, 09:57:42 AM
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This topic is a little bit biased..

Three poll options are about possible negative qualities of the articles, whilst the other three are about how the forum or reader supposedly sucks. Where's the neutral or good options?

The title, "to see if forums really need depth knowledge", presents the assumption that these articles are comprehensive.
The poll options seem to put the blame more on the user, rather than the quality of these articles. There aren't a directly positive or directly negative poll options, like they could be if they were
"I have read these articles, and find them informative or thought inspiring"
"I have read these articles, and found them to not be interesting"
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"The ideas are very original, and well written"
"The ideas are very original, but poorly presented"
You are right, I actually planned to add two positive options at first, but in order to avoid promotion suspicion, I only added two neutral options.

The question itself is not to discuss the quality of RainbowKUN’s posts, but to discuss whether the forum requires in-depth knowledge through this matter.

But thank you for your reminder, based on your suggestions. I might add a positive option.

At that time, we were Binance’s biggest competitor. This project is world-famous. But because of some reasons from the founder of the project, we failed in the process of competing with Binance. At the right time in the future, I will tell the story that happened that year.
So you are a big man hidden behind the novice account?

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Why is my writing frequency so high? I have produced more than 20 independent articles throughout July. Because I have very limited time now.
That is to say you are developing a project? wow, will you do it on bitcointalk? Do I have the opportunity to participate in private sale or donate?

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Every time I write an article, I try to put forward an independent point of view as much as possible, and then describe my thinking process of this point of view, and finally draw my conclusions.
Yes, according to my observation, many newbies now only post their own questions, and when others reply and answer them, they get no response, or even a thanks. It’s always good to have your own independent thinking.

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Finally, thank you again for all your friends’ suggestions, whether it is encouraging establishment or critical suggestions, I accept them humbly. Because of continuous communication with everyone, my own cognitive level has also improved significantly. This is the greatest wealth that these writings have brought to me. Thanks again!
Every time I write an article, I try to put forward an independent point of view as much as possible, and then describe my thinking process of this point of view, and finally draw my conclusions.
Looking forward to your new article.
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July 31, 2021, 02:17:44 PM
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I am now working hard to improve my English level, as much as possible so that the thought of the article is not lost in the process of translation.
You're doing fine...

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Thank you very much kaggie for raising these questions. I will summarize and reply to these questions raised by kaggie. In fact, many answers have been included in my previous articles. For more details, please see my first article published on July 1:  Bitcoin is not just a currency, but represents a new human civilization.
Hahah, oh, I get my own initial reservations now.
I think I turned off immediately because of that post, and it's largely because there are users here every few days
claiming to be some famous figure (like being Satoshi, having a decade old hard drive with bitcoin, or this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352028.msg57581914#msg57581914 ), along with all of the new accounts that are created to sell something.

Your post above was also a bit over the top optimistic... even though I would agree.
It's just not your standard introduction, "Hello, I'd like to introduce you to something that will change the world on a big scale."
It sounds like a religious pitch. So, in that context, I immediately turned off. (Not that I'm anybody.)
And perhaps, there was a little bit of jealousy because I agree too much, and thought of writing related things myself.  Wink Cool

I find that you use key words, terms and concepts that are discussed briefly in your articles that could also be themes of new posts to provide more background.

Good luck with your DAO and DeFi projects.

The question itself is not to discuss the quality of RainbowKUN’s posts, but to discuss whether the forum requires in-depth knowledge through this matter.
It seems like it can only help?
People are discussing on the threads, which is a good sign.
There are probably more kinds of styles possible, but it seems successful as is.
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July 31, 2021, 05:46:19 PM
Last edit: July 31, 2021, 06:00:57 PM by franky1
Merited by ABCbits (1), mk4 (1), RainbowKun (1), Jazmin Leslie (1)
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rainbowkun has atleast shown that he has put some thought into his articles before writing it. but its more philosophical rather than matter of fact.

more "bitcoin should be a one world reserve currency" in about 5 posts i seen of his. as one example of his mindset.

you can tell he has put some sitting back and thinking time, and then some time to write them. but as a newbie he has still alot to learn about bitcoin.
i have corrected a few misconceptions he has made and he has adapted a few things. but he is still in the learning process.

nothing wrong with opinion pieces of philosophy. but trying to write them out as if they are bitcoin matter of facts is a different story. he is still too early in his learning to be trying 'matter of fact' stuff

he is getting there. and i probably would give him merit in future. but just parts of his articles still rub me the wrong way and remind me that he is still a newbie. so not yet at a point of winning merit.
(one article said bitcoin first, blockchain second. .. another article said the opposite way round.. another article said its a database. ..  i had to correct him by saying its a ledger not a database. as ledgers have more meaning and better definition of structure and function)
there are other examples where he still does not get the full concept of bitcoin, and just seems too philosophical like he is trying to hype promote bitcoin to newbies without realising for people to be on this forum they have already been though the promotion part to have found and joined the forum.

i have nothing against the deep thought stuff. and its this that makes me half want to award him merit as its surprising to come from a newbie. but he still lacks something which just ends up with me holding back from awarding merit.

nothing against anyone giving merit to him for the little snippits of detail he does get right. but overall. still not always all right as a whole post. so he has some more learning to do.

i think he needs to spend a couple more months asking questions before making posts pretending to give answers. .. he just isnt quite yet there to be giving out 'matter of fact' style articles.

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Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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