Planned merits vs actual merits

[savetheFORUM]

Please note, I am not accusing anyone but just sharing my opinion on how some users are giving merits to the accounts than to the posts.

Let's have a look at some screenshots. Have a look at the timestamps of the merits given.



( Gozie51 is part of the spammer list by actmyname)





Is it actually possible to read 4 posts in 4 different sections within less than 2 minutes? It looks like he just decided that he wants to give merits and clicked the last posts of them and sent merits.

Even if you read the posts, it should normally take 2-5 minutes considering the post was merit-worthy. Below are some examples of actual merits given.



It is obvious that fast merits are possible within the same thread as you scroll down.


I could not find any other member on the forum with a similar style of giving out merits and hence I am creating this thread. I respect ryptopreneurBrainboss a lot and I hope asking some questions publicly is not a problem if everything is clean.

I have some other patterns that are worth looking at, will keep updating the thread.

If someone wonders why would someone rotate merits so hard? It's because hampuz and campaigns like duelbits require large number of merits to join the campaign and such tactics get you slots.

Rruchi man has almost always got merits from CB on all of his posts.

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[AB de Royse777]

The user DDmrDDmr (if I have spelled it correctly) has a record of sending faster merit to a good number of users. I don't have the details now by the way, but I am sure he has it. :-)

Edit: It spells DdmrDdmr

[savetheFORUM]

The user DDmrDDmr (if I have spelled it correctly) has a record of sending faster merit to a good number of users. I don't have the details now by the way, but I am sure he has it. :-)

Edit: It spells DdmrDdmr

Like I said, if there's a logic or reasoning behind how they do it while also reading posts, I will be glad to learn something and move on. I hope people aren't offended on asking such things 

[owlcatz]

The user DDmrDDmr (if I have spelled it correctly) has a record of sending faster merit to a good number of users. I don't have the details now by the way, but I am sure he has it. :-)

Edit: It spells DdmrDdmr

Like I said, if there's a logic or reasoning behind how they do it while also reading posts, I will be glad to learn something and move on. I hope people aren't offended on asking such things 

Just advice, but you really need to find a new hobby, son.... I mean, who has time for that kinda dumbass shit?

[savetheFORUM]

The user DDmrDDmr (if I have spelled it correctly) has a record of sending faster merit to a good number of users. I don't have the details now by the way, but I am sure he has it. :-)

Edit: It spells DdmrDdmr

Like I said, if there's a logic or reasoning behind how they do it while also reading posts, I will be glad to learn something and move on. I hope people aren't offended on asking such things  

Just advice, but you really need to find a new hobby, son.... I mean, who has time for that kinda dumbass shit?

When I need time off the forum, I do take breaks as you might see from my posting gaps. Thanks for the suggestion but is there any problem with the current hobby? I mean at least it's more constructive than playing games on mobile, yeah?

I think you aren't aware how much time people are spending finding alts and everything. I think some people need this advice more than me.

[suchmoon]

Is it actually possible to read 4 posts in 4 different sections within less than 2 minutes? It looks like he just decided that he wants to give merits and clicked the last posts of them and sent merits.

Even if you read the posts, it should normally take 2-5 minutes considering the post was merit-worthy.

There is no rule that says you have to send merits immediately after reading a post. In fact, someone who plans of meriting a few posts and perhaps has a limited number of merits to spend, would likely open a bunch of posts in tabs and/or bookmark them, decide which ones to merit and how much, put the numbers into boxes, and hit "Send" within seconds. I've done this literally thousands of times.

[savetheFORUM]

Is it actually possible to read 4 posts in 4 different sections within less than 2 minutes? It looks like he just decided that he wants to give merits and clicked the last posts of them and sent merits.

Even if you read the posts, it should normally take 2-5 minutes considering the post was merit-worthy.

There is no rule that says you have to send merits immediately reading a post. In fact, someone who plans of meriting a few posts and perhaps has a limited number of merits to spend, would likely open a bunch of posts in tabs and/or bookmark them, decide which ones to merit and how much, put the numbers into boxes, and hit "Send" within seconds. I've done this literally thousands of times.

Thanks. But from what I know CB is not short on merits and there is a group they are rotating merits except CB who spends outside too. I will post more details very soon.

[Charles-Tim]

Thanks. But from what I know CB is not short on merits and there is a group they are rotating merits except CB who spends outside too. I will post more details very soon.

Your post will not be valid if you do not post unworthy posts that were merited, if the smerit given were to worthy posts and a post you know a member can see helpful, I think no need for your argument. If I am merited, I can give the smerit(s) to whoever I want so far the posts I merited are useful.

[savetheFORUM]

Thanks. But from what I know CB is not short on merits and there is a group they are rotating merits except CB who spends outside too. I will post more details very soon.

Your post will not be valid if you do not post unworthy posts that were merited, if the smerit given were to worthy posts and a post you know a member can see helpful, I think no need for your argument. If I am merited, I can give the smerit(s) to whoever I want so far the posts I merited are useful.

There are no rules for merits which means I am not able to decide what is worthy of merit and what is not. You can give the merits to anyone you wish, no doubt about that but I am just trying to ensure that there are no gangs being built because if they are built as such, there is just no room for new members to get merits. I will soon post all the stats so just wait for it. If you haven't made any mistakes then there is no need to worry. It will only strengthen your way of meriting.

I have seen some posts from Rruchi man being merited more than usual. I understand some people might be fan of the member though so not accusing anyone here.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I could not find any other member on the forum with a similar style of giving out merits and hence I am creating this thread.

I appreciate the PM OP to bring this thread to my awareness but you can do that easily in future my copy pasting my name or actually spelling it correctly Ok. Based on your observations, it seems you haven't taken a look at DdmrDdmr meriting records, I bet yea, you'll be impressive and maybe get more attention attacking him than me. Well it's obvious he uses bot, my human skills can't beat that since I do my meriting manually.

Neither of the users I have merited get merited because of some campaign they have to join or are already a member off, get that fact right and stop with your baseless assumptions. Now assuming you're questioning the quality of the post I merited than your accusations would had been more valid but it seems there's nothing you're trying to prove here.

What you're observing is accounts been review and merit worthy posts are been rewarded. It's quite easy to do, you just have to read their post, click on the merit button for as many merited post as possible then you merit one after another, it'll take you just seconds to complete depending on how many posts you're meriting though.



Pretty sure you can find so many users accounts getting a review from me if you dig dipper and not just targeting certain users. Lastly if I did merit all Rruchi man post he should have been a hero member by now having made over 500+ posts but that's not the case (he's a full member). What next?

[savetheFORUM]

Thank you CB, I always spell your username correctly, it was a typo as only the C was missing but thanks for reminding me. I never had the intention to attack you or seek attention.

I am glad to know about Ddmr will review that technique later. I will post some stats later once I get enough time to compile them to explain you why I created this thread.

[DdmrDdmr]

You can take a look at 128 posts merited (by me) in just under 2 minutes – What’s got over me? (v 10.0), where I depict my historical (as in retrospective) meriting sprees, and the criteria used on each occasion. Those would be my "Super sprees", but I have also performed "Mini sprees" (smallish amount of post merited in s very short time span, which I don't log). You can still see my last "Super Spree" reviewing my meriting profile.

Both "Super sprees" and "Mini sprees" are a perks, subject to:
-   Having a bunch of sMerits to give out.
-   Having, at certain times, the will to hand them out (as opposed to let them rot).
-   Distributing them in a provably fair manner (see criteria in each case).
-   Having or developing a small skillset in order to award the sMerits as depicted.
-   Respecting some awarding time constraints.
-   Having a will to have a little fun every now and then.

[LoyceV]

Is it actually possible to read 4 posts in 4 different sections within less than 2 minutes?

Maybe. But it's not necessary to Merit a post right after you're done reading. I usually open Merit-links in a new tab so I can continue reading without interruption, and Merit 4 posts within a second later on:

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July 25, 2021, 07:42:51 PM: 4 to valentine wheeler for How to grow into a hero and legendary member?
July 25, 2021, 07:42:51 PM: 4 to DdmrDdmr for Re: How to grow into a hero and legendary member?
July 25, 2021, 07:42:51 PM: 4 to valentine wheeler for Re: WHICH COUNTRIES COULD FOLLOW EL SALVADOR BY MAKING BITCOIN LEGAL TENDER?
July 25, 2021, 07:42:51 PM: 4 to Ratimov for Brief History of Bitcoin Adoption 

It looks like he just decided that he wants to give merits and clicked the last posts of them and sent merits.

As a Merit source, I do that too sometimes. Once I stumble upon a user who I think deserves more Merit, I check several of his posts. Nothing wrong with that:

if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.

[FIFA worldcup]

When I need time off the forum, I do take breaks as you might see from my posting gaps. Thanks for the suggestion but is there any problem with the current hobby? I mean at least it's more constructive than playing games on mobile, yeah?

I think you aren't aware how much time people are spending finding alts and everything. I think some people need this advice more than me.

I think we should encourage people to give merits no matter if they give in bulk etc. Merits need to spread in the forum generously so those who are good posters aren't having a feeling of being neglected.

Its good that you spend your free time analyze people on how they are giving merits. I would suggest it could be more constructive if you spend time in things like finding any merit sources not giving away enough merits etc.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I will show you the real abuse of transferring or selling merits to another member to participate in a subscription company.
The account tazmantasik woke up and immediately awarded 5 merits to another account  bounceback.

Bitcointalk Username: bounceback
Current post count: 1753
Merit earned in last 120 days: 5
ETH wallet [Address Must be from MetaMask wallet]: 0xEFd0D04Ae65273f74D68618a27943356c50d93b0

Suspicious enough, isn't it? And the posts themselves are not of high quality.


As for CryptopreneurBrainboss, he, as a representative of the local section of Nigeria, is quite rightly more attentive to the users of this section. As noted earlier, he has the right to distribute and read everything as he sees fit.

[The Cryptovator]

First of all, I believe CryptopreneurBrainboss not abusing the merit system. Secondly, I don't think it's something wrong with meriting with a short period. I don't know CryptopreneurBrainboss's merit sending criteria but for me, I do the same thing sometimes. If I found a user make a very good post then I become curious to visit his post history if there is more good and quality post exist. If so, then I send merit a few posts from his/her post history. I don't think I am doing wrong since merited posts aren't spam to me. For this reason, no one should blame me for merit abuse.

@ OP, I'm not blowing your concern and appreciate your effort. But it will be better if you can add more details if you discovered merit abuse there. I know many users abusing the merit system. But we are unable to do anything if no strong evidence. Personally, I like to see more merit circulation, so more users would get benefits from the merit system.

[KryptoKings]

Are you trying to say sending smerits within short time is not good?
sending merits isn't bad, you (i) can send merit to any post i found interesting to me or deserved to be merited but looking at the time of meriting the users has nothing to do within. so don't think it is a connected accounts or not.
Gozie51 is not spamming.



Besides there are lots of users here how do you intends to monitor all user who are sending merits to fellow users, it is better you find something interesting to do than to monitor how merits being sent out.
There is something you don't understand here; Smerit is not what you can save back but to send out, you too can also send to users whom you find their post interesting.

[Kittygalore]

Probably the person that got merited was just so good that they the people who merits them have found other post worthy of merit plus it's not like it's difficult to decide, I mean I can read fast and most of the time, you can see it in the first lines in the post that it's merit worthy. Although, I have reservations because some people who do this merit becomes suspicious.

[Rikafip]

@savetheFORUM keep in mind that some forum members are bookmarking good posts when they are out of smerit, so when they get some  they can share it very fast, across different threads/boards. I used to do it before, when I was more active but lately I kinda stopped with that;s practice. So, that's another way how it might look that someone is sharing merit without even reading the posts while it doesn't have to be the case.

[Little Mouse]

Not sure if the posts worth merit or not, haven’t checked out as I think it’s not necessary. Merit worthiness depends on the perspective of respective users.
A few days ago, I had PMed yahoo62278 for having a review on my post as I'm nearly to my new rank  Please note that yahoo62278 had stated somewhere to PM him if someone is lacking of merits for next rank or just to have a look at their post history if they think they are not having enough merit. So, he merited in 2 of my posts. It would also be possible that he merited some more posts if he thought my posts deserved. That would create the same situation as this one.