Is there discrimination in the forum

[The Ghoul]

The cause of the incident was that I had a dispute with a member of a forum in the economic sector because of a point of view.

The title of the post is China-everything is fine! But everything is bad ...（To be honest, I don't think this topic belongs to the economic sector. I think it’s more appropriate to put it in the Politics & Society）

But this is not the point of the problem. The crux of the problem is that he mentioned in his reply：

If there was any doubt in my mind that the forum is being specifically targeted by Chinese handlers, this removes that doubt.

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

If yes, can you give some examples of racial discrimination or ethnic discrimination.If not, that would be great.


being specifically targeted by Chinese handlers

What I want to say is that before that I just checked the post silently and responded to the post. I have never published any topics about China.

Of course I am very grateful to friends who share knowledge in the forum. I will continue to study and also avoid getting into political discussions.

I personally respect all races, all nationalities.My reply to amishmanish was just because I was angry.

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[Charles-Tim]

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

People can not think the same way, but irrespective of this, I did not notice any racial discrimination. Just post good and continue enjoying the forum.

[kxwhalexk]

I have never seen any discrimination in the forum. Also don’t take it to heart even if there is discrimination.

You know this is the "Bitcoin" forum. If you want to learn Bitcoin knowledge and technology, you are welcome. You have come to the right place.

If you want to talk about politics, there may not be many people who are very professional in politics and history. You may need to find a "political" forum.

Many people think that their views are correct（Whether it's correct or not）, and here is also full of conspiracy theories.If you don’t like these, please ignore them，Just focus on Bitcoin itself.

This is some Bitcoin knowledge:https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/getting-started.html

[YOSHIE]

I saw what was written by: @amishmanish, and I read over and over again, I didn't find any elements (Discrimination) that lead to: religion, age, race, and sexuality, which was written by: @amishmanish I think it's based on a true story about china, believe it or not, that's the reality conveyed by: @amishmanish.

So, what made you, to make this topic in (Meta), are you cornered, offended or not accept the criticism written by: @amishmanish.

Maybe you should learn more about a country for example: (china)/communists more in their actions so far against other countries, maybe if you ask and look at some media, most likely they will answer as answered by: @amishmanish, So, there's nothing wrong with that criticism.

As far as I know this forum has freedom of speech, as long as there are no violations, such as the rules: (1),(2),(3),(4),(7) and some other rules, if you do not accept criticism by: @amishmanish, you have to give a reasonable reason for the criticism, to @amishmanish, that it is wrong or something is right.

[The Ghoul]

People can not think the same way, but irrespective of this, I did not notice any racial discrimination. Just post good and continue enjoying the forum.

Thank you, I will continue to learn.

This is some Bitcoin knowledge:https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/getting-started.html

This website is great, thank you.

I saw what was written by: @amishmanish, and I read over and over again, I didn't find any elements (Discrimination) that lead to: religion, age, race, and sexuality, which was written by: @amishmanish I think it's based on a true story about china, believe it or not, that's the reality conveyed by: @amishmanish.

So, what made you, to make this topic in (Meta), are you cornered, offended or not accept the criticism written by: @amishmanish.

The most important thing is not the disagreement between him and me. The most important thing is the title of this topic-Is there discrimination in the forum，This should be no problem in the mate section.

Maybe you should learn more about a country for example: (china)/communists more in their actions so far against other countries, maybe if you ask and look at some media, most likely they will answer as answered by: @amishmanish, So, there's nothing wrong with that criticism.

I also want to know that everyone gets information about China from those news media.Thanks

As far as I know this forum has freedom of speech, as long as there are no violations, such as the rules: (1),(2),(3),(4),(7) and some other rules, if you do not accept criticism by: @amishmanish, you have to give a reasonable reason for the criticism, to @amishmanish, that it is wrong or something is right.

Thank you, I will review the rules carefully. I should have not violated the rules so far. Thanks for reminding.

[NeuroticFish]

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?

There are a lot of individuals writing on this forum. Expecting all to be open minded, expecting all not discriminating, expecting all think like you is by far too much.
You will find all kind of people here, some nice, some rude, some helpful, some trolling, some discriminating, some not. So what? That's how the world is, after all. Learn to pay attention to only what you find useful for yourself and ignore gracefully the rest. Of course, you can start disputing ideas too, but don't expect that always the smarter argument wins (again, like in real world too, some will not accept that argument no matter what).

All in all, it's a good forum. The variety is just spicing it up a little. Enjoy your raid here, if you'll stay long enough you'll probably find your way and you'll like it.


Edit: and @YOSHIE also has a good point. Try to not be offended too easy and keep your mind open; some things may not even be as you think (in this case discrimination).

[Poker Player]

No. There is no discrimination in this forum at all. And precisely here there is a respect for freedom of expression that there is not (anymore) in other parts of the internet, especially in social media.

I myself have argued a lot with advocates of pro-communist or radical leftist policies. With moderate leftists too, but with them I usually reach common ground. I was amused by one thing he replies to you:

Dear CCP representative, Welcome to Democracy 101.

LOL. I could have told you the same thing. Which is not to say that I discriminate against you.

[The Ghoul]

All in all, it's a good forum. The variety is just spicing it up a little. Enjoy your raid here, if you'll stay long enough you'll probably find your way and you'll like it.

You are right, the most important thing is to be yourself.I firmly believe that I will stay in the forum long enough.

LOl，I still hope that I can be like my name-The Ghoul (this is actually an anime name).I will refute the opinions that I do not agree with without hesitation.

Thanks，NeuroticFish. Can you tell me what your name stands for？

I myself have argued a lot with advocates of pro-communist or radical leftist policies. With moderate leftists too, but with them I usually reach common ground.

Maybe we have different political views or positions. But it does not prevent us from being friends.

After all, this is a Bitcoin forum, not a political forum, nor a place for bipartisan competition.

[cryptoaddictchie]

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

People can not think the same way, but irrespective of this, I did not notice any racial discrimination. Just post good and continue enjoying the forum.

Simply an observation. Many of us probably thought that werent offended anyone by our thoughts or opinion targeting someone. But this is a forum and we must be professional, only those who arent fond of a healthy conversation is likely explode in such heated conversation.

OP there is nothing to worry we are free to vocal ourself here.

[suchmoon]

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

People saying mean things to you or about you isn't really discrimination. You can still say your thing and even be mean to others if you think that's needed to counter the other mean users (usually it isn't).

Discrimination IMO would be e.g. moderators deleting posts of certain groups of users based entirely on who those users are and not on whether they break the rules. I don't think that's happening.

Also keep in mind that personal attacks are typically against the rules (off topic, low value posts) so if someone posts something that is entirely targeted at you and not at the topic of the thread - you can report it to moderators. However if the post is only partially off topic, it will likely stay. This is where the "Ignore" feature comes in handy.

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP you need to match your nickname. You should not pay attention to everyone who somehow disagrees with your point of view. If you are completely unhappy with the posts of the person who addresses you, just click on the ignore button. And you will no longer see a letter addressed to you from the villain.
This is a forum, it is anonymous, people may not necessarily be who you think they are.
Don't get into the snowflake generation, wear thick leather and be bulletproof. (no matter how strange it may seem)

[tranthidung]

But this is not the point of the problem. The crux of the problem is that he mentioned in his reply：

If there was any doubt in my mind that the forum is being specifically targeted by Chinese handlers, this removes that doubt.

I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

If yes, can you give some examples of racial discrimination or ethnic discrimination.If not, that would be great.

The forum does not have any rule about ethnic discrimination. The forum is opened for all and it is big enough to have some conflicts of interests, opinions inside.

You can agree or disagree with another and you could be right about that specific person. However, if you generalize it too much, you would be seriously wrong. There are good and bad people in same nation, same local area.

Control yourself, on what you write, what you want to read. If things are not your favorite, ignore them (members, topics, boards). Don't let such ones expose your eyes and let you unable to control your discussions. Then you will never fall into discrimination.

[Frengki_cisco]

I often see drama on this forum-not discrimination-some suggestions in this thread, might be worth considering for you in the future-continuation.

If you don't want to get burned, don't make a fire let alone try to pour gasoline, flush with water to cool it.

Thanks，NeuroticFish. Can you tell me what your name stands for？

this-a good question.
What this fits into a definition of Neuroticfish, quite classic.

http://www.neuroticfish.com/

Neuroticfish is a German musical project whose styles are borrowed from electronic body music, futurepop, and synthpop, as well as other types of electronic music. It has released music on the Dancing Ferret Discs record label.

Maybe this is more dangerous and scary.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghoul

[Jet Cash]

No discrimination here, not even against the elderly.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yeah, I have no doubt there's discrimination on the forum, though I haven't noticed (or participated in) much of it lately.  China is a bit of a ticklish subject in a lot of people's minds these days, so it's not surprising to see even blatant anti-Chinese sentiment being expressed.  I'm pretty sure I've posted some myself.  However, I want to clarify something on my part: I have nothing against Chinese people; I have a problem with the Chinese government.  

I also don't care for the Chinese culture of counterfeiting goods, and if you can argue that that isn't a thing, good luck with that.

A few years ago I had a problem with Filippino shitposters, and I regret that I made some pretty bad statements directed against them--I was fed up with the shitposting, and everything I wrote just reeked of nationalistic bile.  For the record, I have nothing against the Philippines or Filippinos or any other nationality or race.  Sure, there are aspects of different cultures I don't like, but when I meet people in real life and it's just two people talking....all of that goes away, magically.  So I guess I've changed.

However, even if there is prejudice, racism, or discrimination on bitcointalk, it's fully allowed.  I wouldn't even want to change that, because it would mean the mods would be censoring thought, however offensive it might be.  If you feel you're on the receiving end of any of that, it's up to you to defend yourself, and you should do so without fear of retaliation, IMO.  One thing about being a member of the forum is that you ought to have a fairly thick skin.  If you don't, you should thicken your skin ASAP.

Don't get into the snowflake generation, wear thick leather and be bulletproof. (no matter how strange it may seem)

Well said.

[NeuroticFish]

Thanks，NeuroticFish. Can you tell me what your name stands for？

this-a good question.
What this fits into a definition of Neuroticfish, quite classic.

http://www.neuroticfish.com/

Neuroticfish is a German musical project whose styles are borrowed from electronic body music, futurepop, and synthpop, as well as other types of electronic music. It has released music on the Dancing Ferret Discs record label.

This is the one. It's a band I enjoy listening for decades.
Plus the fact that I was born under the sign of Pisces.

If you want to listen, you can start with:
https://youtu.be/7TwSSnSFoyU
https://youtu.be/JuQDg5sajNo
https://youtu.be/t8zXY_G639U

[LoyceV]

So what?

The only right answer

Discrimination and racism is all part of freedom of speech. You can't have freedom of speech without someone else having the same freedom, and as I once read: freedom of speech is especially necessary for controversial subjects! You don't need freedom of speech to say bunnies are fluffy.
So if someone wants to discriminate: let them! Use ignore if you want, discuss with them, try to change their mind (as if that's ever worked on the internet) or just move on with your day. Who cares what an anonymous person on the internet says? See my personal text to see how much I care.

Besides, as long as hell doesn't freeze over, you can have any race, nationality or gender you want on Bitcointalk. There's an attack helicopter as Global Moderator, that's all fine

[Pmalek]

Do I see discrimination and hate speech towards Chinese people in that post of his? No, I don't.
Do I see a dislike of a regime and government? Yes I do.
Do I think that's a bad thing? No I don't.

Just because you are Chinese that doesn't mean you have to agree with what your government does. Distinguish the two, there is a big difference. I dislike the Chinese government due to their censorship, their child policy, for the way certain doctors who spoke out against their government magically disappeared, for the way they treat the Uyghurs, or for the way they handled the bitcoin mining situation.

That doesn't mean that I associate a Chinese person with the Chinese government and that I have anything against that person when I see, here, or talk to one. The same way I don't consider the citizens of my country responsible for what the retards in power do. That also doesn't make me anti-China or pro-America or pro/against anything. I don't like the orange baby that ruled the States for four years either, but I have no problem with American people. I still hope they don't find oil on the Balkans though  

Let's sum up:

• Offend the Chinese - CHECK
• Offend the Americans - CHECK

[PrimeNumber7]

As a CCP apologist/propagandist, the OP should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

The CCP can only be described as an evil organization that oppresses over a billion people and whose goal is to oppress billions more. They commit mass murder and steal from billions.

[GeorgeJohn]

Their is no discrimination or sentiment to community but people just exaggerates that on their own that such exist here, even at time people feel that someone hate them because the person don't use to award Merit to them, while Merit is primary something that is well understood that while awarding  Merit to somebody is because you personally like the post, see op it's obvious that newbies that is not doing well always think someone hate them, at times when old user try to correct newbies they feel it's an insult or someone is taking them for granted, no one is ready to oppress or intimidate any person, but they will correct an impression if it's needful, just keep on moving.