Online Misinformation

[Natsuu]

Misinformation is widely spread in these era as the previous generation tend to believe anything they see on the internet.

"Look at this plant, it can heal anykinds of disease", yet there's no supporting data to defend the claims.

"Look, they became magnetic after getting vaccinated", yet the one who is supposed to be magnetic is just sweaty

"Look at this, the government is in cooperation with the other governments for worldwide genocide", yet years later, nothing ever happened

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

[pmultrol]

At least, at first glance, a interesting point of view...

[inoes]

usually people who act like that are people who like to talk about something that is less useful.  so that when there is something new it will be immediately used as a material for discussion without going deep into what it is being brought to people.  In my country, many are like that, from talking about conspiracies about covid, about vaccines and even about flat earth.  What I'm worried about is that if it creates chaos, then the situation will be difficult to control.  remember people are easily stirred up by what they only want

[The Ghoul]

1.2012 is the end of the world

2.5G networks will spread COVID-19

[Cnut237]

there's no supporting data to defend the claims.

Yes, these posts can often be identified because they are just copy/pastes from a website or email... the person who posts them doesn't link to any data, and when their assertions are challenged with actual data, they refuse to engage or to attempt to justify their position... they either continue posting the same nonsense, or else start a new thread, and repeat with a new topic. There are more examples of this in the P&S section than anyone could possibly count.

[sapnu]

Spreading fake information in the internet has always been a problem for many specially for those who easily believes on what they see here. It is very easy to manipulate or change information in the internet like for example, in Wikipedia, everyone is free to change its content and many students sometime rely on the definition given by it. If you want to be certain about a specific data in the internet, you should rely on journal articles with trustworthy authors or see if there supporting evidence cited to prove that the information being given is completely legitimate.

[Ultegra134]

Misinformation is widely spread in these era as the previous generation tend to believe anything they see on the internet.

"Look at this plant, it can heal anykinds of disease", yet there's no supporting data to defend the claims.

"Look, they became magnetic after getting vaccinated", yet the one who is supposed to be magnetic is just sweaty

"Look at this, the government is in cooperation with the other governments for worldwide genocide", yet years later, nothing ever happened

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

The internet is full of fake news , misinformation and deceit. I keep finding stupid claims about every subject you can imagine. A quick googling or image search can easily debunk most of these theories,  fortunately, there are quite a few fact checkers out there, which are doing a great job.

Personally, I use Greek Hoaxes, a national fact checker which is great at tracking down fake news and misinformation.

[Natsuu]

there's no supporting data to defend the claims.

Yes, these posts can often be identified because they are just copy/pastes from a website or email... the person who posts them doesn't link to any data, and when their assertions are challenged with actual data, they refuse to engage or to attempt to justify their position... they either continue posting the same nonsense, or else start a new thread, and repeat with a new topic. There are more examples of this in the P&S section than anyone could possibly count.

Then there will be these people who will be like "Yes, I agree", "Yes, I believe the same thing", "I knew it" without fact checking the information they read which indeed tolerates that behavior you mentioned.

At least, at first glance, a interesting point of view...

not until they hit you with their full potential.

Misinformation is widely spread in these era as the previous generation tend to believe anything they see on the internet.

"Look at this plant, it can heal anykinds of disease", yet there's no supporting data to defend the claims.

"Look, they became magnetic after getting vaccinated", yet the one who is supposed to be magnetic is just sweaty

"Look at this, the government is in cooperation with the other governments for worldwide genocide", yet years later, nothing ever happened

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

The internet is full of fake news , misinformation and deceit. I keep finding stupid claims about every subject you can imagine. A quick googling or image search can easily debunk most of these theories.

Yet there will be like this guys who were like "Those data's are made to make a full out of you" and will fully defend the claim that has one reference to defend from someone else vlog who believes the same thing as them 

[acroman08]

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

this reminds me of an online drama between a Doctor debunking "miracle" plants and another Doctor that sells herbal medicine and also, claims that she graduated from Harvard(she took a Harvard online class about optimal nutrition for $49). the issue got more serious when one of the doctors sued the other for defamation(or something like that). if you are curious about the drama. just search "doc adam and doc Farrah issue".

[Ultegra134]

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

this reminds me of an online drama between a Doctor debunking "miracle" plants and another Doctor that sells herbal medicine and also, claims that she graduated from Harvard(she took a Harvard online class about optimal nutrition for $49). the issue got more serious when one of the doctors sued the other for defamation(or something like that). if you are curious about the drama. just search "doc adam and doc Farrah issue".

One of these so-called doctors was arrested a few months ago, here in Greece. He would suggest his herbal and miracle stuff, for an extraordinary amount of money, to supposedly cure cancer and other diseases. He even persuaded his victims to stop other therapies, such as chemotherapy, which accounted for several deaths, which are purely his fault.

It's astonishing that people end up believing fake doctors and therapies in their despair.

[Natsuu]

And the most annoying is that, typically your aunt/s or uncle/s are the one spreading this to your family group conversation. Like they are saying "Look at this, I am concerned about you guys so I will spread nonsense that may help you"

this reminds me of an online drama between a Doctor debunking "miracle" plants and another Doctor that sells herbal medicine and also, claims that she graduated from Harvard(she took a Harvard online class about optimal nutrition for $49). the issue got more serious when one of the doctors sued the other for defamation(or something like that). if you are curious about the drama. just search "doc adam and doc Farrah issue".

One of these so-called doctors was arrested a few months ago, here in Greece. He would suggest his herbal and miracle stuff, for an extraordinary amount of money, to supposedly cure cancer and other diseases. He even persuaded his victims to stop other therapies, such as chemotherapy, which accounted for several deaths, which are purely his fault.

It's astonishing that people end up believing fake doctors and therapies in their despair.

People who are often in desperate position always look for the "MIRACLE" that can ease/cure their disease. Miracle is a word that will make a people who believes strongly in religion think about what they are talking about.

[tvbcof]

The solution to 'online mis-information' is rather straightforward really.  Just foster a culture of questioning and encourage the use of tools which facilitate it (e.g., logical reasoning, factual data, etc.)  This will NEVER happen though because governance relies on 'controlling the narrative' by basically lying to people when it is most efficient to do so. and that does not work efficiently if the peeps have any questions.

The best 'middle ground' is to outlaw questioning of things which support 'the narrative', and mandating the belief of things which are in support of it.  For instance, you are a thought criminal if you don't know for sure that 'exactly six million Jews'(tm) were smoked by the Nazis.  Or if you don't know for sure that vaccines are 'safe and effective'.

[acroman08]

One of these so-called doctors was arrested a few months ago, here in Greece. He would suggest his herbal and miracle stuff, for an extraordinary amount of money, to supposedly cure cancer and other diseases. He even persuaded his victims to stop other therapies, such as chemotherapy, which accounted for several deaths, which are purely his fault.

damn, that is extremely similar to what happened here in the Philippines. people who bought the herbal medicine don't want to go to the hospital because they believe that the miracle plant would be enough. and yeah, people have died believing that the herbal medicine being sold to them would cure them.

It's astonishing that people end up believing fake doctors and therapies in their despair.

yep

[tvbcof]

One of these so-called doctors was arrested a few months ago, here in Greece. He would suggest his herbal and miracle stuff, for an extraordinary amount of money, to supposedly cure cancer and other diseases. He even persuaded his victims to stop other therapies, such as chemotherapy, which accounted for several deaths, which are purely his fault.

damn, that is extremely similar to what happened here in the Philippines. people who bought the herbal medicine don't want to go to the hospital because they believe that the miracle plant would be enough. and yeah, people have died believing that the herbal medicine being sold to them would cure them.

It's astonishing that people end up believing fake doctors and therapies in their despair.

yep

As best I can tell, in the case of one doctor at least, many people used her wares in part because they simply didn't have the money for the medicines released by the multi-national pharmaceutical companies.  It was herbal remedies or nothing for these people.

Said doctor left in the middle of the night because, according to her, she was tipped off by the equiv of the FBI that the 'security detail' allotted to the FDA director was about to assassinate her and her husband.  Like that night!  Within a few weeks of her getting the hell out of Dodge her medicinal herb farm was plowed under.

  https://governmentph.com/open-letter-of-dr-farrah-agustin-bunch/

I know from personal experience that it is pointless to 'go to the hospital' because even if one is about to die, they will turn you away to die in the street.  I got a very sick girl in the door by showing a recent 'covid test', by swearing a blue streak and freaking out the staff, and paying about 300,000 peso for 10 days of care.  300,000 peso would be about 12 years at median per-capita income of $478 in the country.

[arielbit]

gonna cross post this here 

in the last few days i've been working on someplace where i can setup mining, the helper just received a call, a relative called, a child 9 months old has a difficulty breathing. a bit panicky, told me he doesn't want to bring the child to hospital (no trust). i asked him what will you do? he said steam inhalation, i asked-water with what?, he said with salt. I said no, use artemisia, just pluck from your garden and steam inhale it.

basically steam inhalation brings essential oils with it (steam distillation).

later he came back smiling, the child is now okay he said, the phlegm was coughed out and mucus flowed out from the nose.

just like any pulmonary ailments that clogs breathing covid or not, what you need is just to keep on breathing.

[Ultegra134]

One of these so-called doctors was arrested a few months ago, here in Greece. He would suggest his herbal and miracle stuff, for an extraordinary amount of money, to supposedly cure cancer and other diseases. He even persuaded his victims to stop other therapies, such as chemotherapy, which accounted for several deaths, which are purely his fault.

damn, that is extremely similar to what happened here in the Philippines. people who bought the herbal medicine don't want to go to the hospital because they believe that the miracle plant would be enough. and yeah, people have died believing that the herbal medicine being sold to them would cure them.

It's astonishing that people end up believing fake doctors and therapies in their despair.

yep

Found the article/source of what I mentioned. He's been charged with 3 deaths of cancer patients, two of whom were minors, only 14 and 16 years old respectively, and a 76-year-old man. I hadn't read about the ages before, it made me sick to my stomach. How can someone have absolutely zero consciousness?

Source: https://greekreporter.com/2020/06/23/fake-doctor-charged-for-causing-three-deaths-in-greece/

[arielbit]

talking about online misinformation, i have first hand information of false data/misinformation about covid.

the helper, the neighbor, an acquaintance and my parents friends and helper. These hospitals are so very reluctant to label covid to their patients.

the data is skewed folks! the poor is being bribed for free cremation and expenses just to agree on paper that the cause of death is covid.

[tvbcof]

talking about online misinformation, i have first hand information of false data/misinformation about covid.

the helper, the neighbor, an acquaintance and my parents friends and helper. These hospitals are so very reluctant to label covid to their patients.

the data is skewed folks! the poor is being bribed for free cremation and expenses just to agree on paper that the cause of death is covid.

Reminds me of something I was reading about the 'vaccine trials' in India.  The participants only got paid at the end of the trial.  When a participant died, a family member would often fill in so they could get the money.  The reasoning was that the victim was dead anyway and it was better to get the money than nothing at all.

[Natsuu]

talking about online misinformation, i have first hand information of false data/misinformation about covid.

the helper, the neighbor, an acquaintance and my parents friends and helper. These hospitals are so very reluctant to label covid to their patients.

the data is skewed folks! the poor is being bribed for free cremation and expenses just to agree on paper that the cause of death is covid.

This happens to many countries and it happens since way back the start of pandemic.

What I've heard according to one of the people is that this kind of (what do we call it bribery? negotiation?) happens to access the funds allocated for covid victims. The key for this ideas is that ONLY covid patients will be granted to have something for this funds, so by twisting other patients death or disease, the family may receive the grants from the government.

Believe me or not, my relative once has a situation similar to this where her diagnosis is not in range for the insurance so they talk to the doctor about it and they twist the diagnosis for the sake of that insurance.

Another thing, its is not misinformation, rather faking

[CryptocurencyKing]

The internet plays the role it was meant to and it does it well actually but, you can't blame the misuse of this resource by some persons. The point most persons don't get is the fact that, those that are posting these informations on the net are you and I. Not everyone is some professional of some sort and as such, some users could just post what they want to attract clicks or views and get incentives for generating traffic. It's where the media people and bloggers explore the most.
It's a thing of importance, especially when it's got to do with health and security that you verify when it doesn't agree well with you than, jumping in to believe what ever you want because, you want it to be appealing yo you. It's another way to mess yourself up.