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August 08, 2021, 09:17:24 PM |
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how can you oppose that? my body, my choice. end of the discussion. no trespassing allowed.
blah blah. it's the most powerful slogan ever !
it reflects the WILL as the fundamental core issue ! and maybe even more basic the full owership of the individual over his own body.
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you are looking like those 4 year olds when they want something and the parents know that the child is asking for something that is not good for them, the parents do not give it. There are laws and rules to make people able to live together peacefully and when a person shows that they do not want to respect these laws and rules, the system makes that person have to respect the force. so you have your body but you also have to respect the laws and rules, in case your government determines that all people must take a vaccine to save people's lives then you are obliged to take a vaccine
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August 09, 2021, 05:51:39 AM |
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In case your government determines that all people must take a vaccine to save people's lives then you are obliged to take a vaccine
1. I am not a tree 2. a gov is made to serve the people, not the contrary 3. a gov, and all it's members can be executed, including their children, remember the tsar of all russia, the king of france, and the list goes on we are more than them, always.
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August 09, 2021, 08:02:41 AM |
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Yeah, your body - your choice. Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm? There's no need to argue with this.
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August 09, 2021, 08:24:19 AM |
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Please think more about it, so that your brain does not look like a mirror when the doctor dissects your brain after death.
Your body is indeed your body. He belongs to you, but if you have a virus in your body and you wander around, it’s your fault.
Vaccination or isolation is not just to restrict you, but to protect the people around you.OP tell the truth, are you saying these things when you are being quarantined? I will check your historical posts in a while
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August 09, 2021, 08:33:10 AM |
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
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August 09, 2021, 08:37:09 AM |
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how can you oppose that? my body, my choice. end of the discussion. no trespassing allowed.
blah blah. it's the most powerful slogan ever !
it reflects the WILL as the fundamental core issue ! and maybe even more basic the full owership of the individual over his own body.
I heard this slogan before, but I don't remember in which context. What are people using it for? Maybe it is a justification to be overweight? So nobody can say anything against it, even if it is very unhealthy.
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August 09, 2021, 08:39:06 AM |
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Yeah, your body - your choice. Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm? There's no need to argue with this.
I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Vaccination or isolation is not just to restrict you, but to protect the people around you.OP tell the truth, are you saying these things when you are being quarantined? I will check your historical posts in a while
your second dose, already has diminished your mental capabilties... I guess micro blood cloth in your brains. try to understand this : image source : https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/image%20%282%29_3.png?itok=ccJeYO10furthermore those are EXPERIMENTAL SHOTS ! how many generations have they been tested on? 0. how many months? 18 max, total time since discovery of mRNA 20 years. I rest my case. IF you want a full background check, I just did my second shit of the morning, it was more aerated that the first one, as I only eated tomatoes with mozarella yesterday evening... The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
yeah, those are the lost evangelicals aka wasps, irrelevants, they will follow anyone who show them a cross, even to the point of murdering and killing hundred of thousand innocents across the world... and even in their own country, it's like it shut their brain off... cross = good. end. .
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August 09, 2021, 09:44:09 AM |
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical. As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person. * we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.try to understand this ~
That image makes no sense. Which I think the person who drew it concedes, by just having lines rather than arrows joining the boxes - without arrows, it's just a vague set of ideas with no process flow. If the vaccines are effective, then of course it is useful to know whether or not someone has been vaccinated.
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August 09, 2021, 09:58:33 AM |
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The paradox I see there is that lately I hear that phrase a lot from those who oppose vaccines, but also oppose abortion. I seems a bit contradictory at least. And conversely: many pro-choice advocating forcing people to be vaccinated.
I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical. As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person. * we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.try to understand this ~
That image makes no sense. Which I think the person who drew it concedes, by just having lines rather than arrows joining the boxes - without arrows, it's just a vague set of ideas with no process flow. If the vaccines are effective, then of course it is useful to know whether or not someone has been vaccinated. wrong a feotus is a miracle of life, an act of god, however it belond, imho, to the mother, as she is the one in harmony with it. and if she doesn't want it, she is free legally, but not morally, to terminate her pregancy. Orcas female drop often first born as they are too contaminated to live due to pollution, having absorbed most toxines, making the next ones with more survival chances. yes it does if the injections works at intended (protect you, fully, like any real vaccine) there is no need for a pass as your are protected and risk free if the injection doesn't work, same, no need for a pass. aka if you are injected and still transmitting aka not blocking the spread, the pass is useless but to identify you once the side effects really kick in (according to estimate 3 years after injection in humans, personnally waiting for at least 7 generations to be safe and secure).
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August 09, 2021, 06:07:15 PM |
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yes it does
if the injections works at intended (protect you, fully, like any real vaccine) there is no need for a pass as your are protected and risk free if the injection doesn't work, same, no need for a pass. aka if you are injected and still transmitting aka not blocking the spread, the pass is useless but to identify you once the side effects really kick in (according to estimate 3 years after injection in humans, personnally waiting for at least 7 generations to be safe and secure).
No. Your assertion is only valid if everyone has been vaccinated. In the real world, some people have been vaccinated and some haven't. If the vaccine is effective, then the pass can be used to prove that someone is 'safe'. Without the pass, there is no proof.
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August 09, 2021, 06:12:39 PM |
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I thought you were talking about abortion before I realized it was about vaccines. Seemed odd you were advocating for a pro-choice stance.
No one is trying to force you to stick a needle in your arm. There's vaccine mandates maybe in a few EU countries and a few localities in the US, and most of them aren't even forcing anything, they just say incredibly stupid things in order to promote people getting the vaccine.
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There is a famous saying: “Your freedom ends when the freedom of others begins.” Meaning you are really free, but you are not free to harm others because they have the right to live in peace. If the freedom in your body leads to harming others, then you are not free. Not taking the vaccine may lead to your injury and infecting others with disease, so you are not free in this case because you cause great harm to society and the government has the right in this case to force everyone to take the vaccine. You live in a community and you have to respect communal living and you must give up some of your freedom for the sake of the community. If the killer says that he is free to kill people, and the thief also says that he is free to steal people's money, what will happen to society in this case? The same thing in the case of the vaccine, and if everyone abstains from taking the vaccine and says I am free with my body, what will happen to society in this case?
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August 09, 2021, 07:06:17 PM |
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this of course doesn't apply to american soldiers. ps last post was interestingly the 176 and this one the 177 . who knows...
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August 09, 2021, 08:41:32 PM |
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American soldiers have the right to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out.
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August 09, 2021, 08:45:26 PM |
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Yeah, your body - your choice. Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm? There's no need to argue with this.
I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Just as I've said, there's no need for it to be argued. Get those and put that as you say.
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American soldiers have the right to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out. of course... lose salaries, pension, benefits... and then who will be in the military? the forced vaxxers... ready to roam and vaxx... the plan is perfect. what I love about it, is : they want their freedom, they will have to fight (easily) for it, or they remain slaves and perish as such. it's perfect. it's their call, I won't raid the pentagon or the house of austin... I can't swimm an ocean, and I am banned from all transports so... it's up to them .
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August 09, 2021, 09:01:26 PM |
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Yeah, your body - your choice. Is there something that you're pointing out in real life? like when those people tell you that you shouldn't add a tattoo on your left or right arm? There's no need to argue with this.
I prefer dick tatoo... they enlarge faster than on my musclar chest Just as I've said, there's no need for it to be argued. Get those and put that as you say. you're right, arguing with this guy can cause a nervous breakdown, I honestly wonder who the brave one who lives in the same house as him can talk to him without getting angry and wanting to take a dick hit him on the head just to get him out of this his delusion and being on the same frequency as normal people IF you want a full background check, I just did my second shit of the morning, it was more aerated that the first one, as I only eated tomatoes with mozarella yesterday evening... man you need to get a vaccine, maybe your problem with the vaccine is driving you crazy, I urgently recommend that your relative tie you up and take you to the vaccine and then put you in isolation for a few days to get back to normal
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August 09, 2021, 09:02:56 PM |
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American soldiers have the right to contract in. This means that they have the right to contract out. of course... lose salaries, pension, benefits... and then who will be in the military? the forced vaxxers... ready to roam and vaxx... the plan is perfect. what I love about it, is : they want their freedom, they will have to fight (easily) for it, or they remain slaves and perish as such. it's perfect. it's their call, I won't raid the pentagon or the house of austin... I can't swimm an ocean, and I am banned from all transports so... it's up to them . Since you are stuck in that prison or funny farm, start learning the law in your spare time, so you can teach your friends enough law that they can get you out of there.
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August 10, 2021, 05:26:15 AM |
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I agree with the first half of your statement; it does seem hypocritical.
As someone who falls into the second half, I would say that vaccination doesn't just affect you as an individual, it affects those you might infect... whereas abortion of a small bunch of cells is very different. 'Pro-choice' in the context of abortion does not generally refer to a pregnancy that is nearing full term. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.
*we can't use the word 'killing' if it is just a few cells.
Yes, of course, I am also generally pro-choice and I think the key is what we consider a human being. We don't usually consider a 2 week old fetus and we do consider a 9 month old about to be delivered. The problem is where we draw the line that says what is a human being and what is not. There will always be people who disagree. Potentially killing many people is different to aborting* one potential person.
Although I get the idea, it seems to me that you are overdoing it with the example. To begin with, killing is voluntary and I believe that the vast majority of those who do not want to get vaccinated are not thinking of voluntarily killing people. In addition, the mortality of the virus is low, and we are in a context where there are already a lot of people vaccinated, so the people most at risk who are vaccinated also have a reduced probability of ending up dying from the virus. To say that anyone who does not vaccinate is potentially killing is too much of an exaggeration.
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