Do poker and sports betting skills correlate?

[BOAEDAN]

I am not understand yet with poker and waste my time with sport betting exactly with football match, do not know how rule and how to play on poker gambling because not understand yet game play. Almost last year each week end only active on sport gambling specially with football match, I know almost football team on always update with team before match begin, so know which one club can to put betting or not and how much odds giving is most interested to play.

[paxmao]

The reason may be that they do dedicate lots of time to follow the sports and the cards tournaments and they are able to find opportunities hidden in the sand. Perhaps rather than a direct correlation, which could also be possible as everything in betting entails a certain ability to assess the chances and probabilities of events happening, is more about being in the "profession" of predicting and making money out of it. I would say that, in general, skills are specific for the prediction and generalist in the calculation abilities.

[Shasha80]

unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.

There is no guarantee of victory for all gambling games, because indeed all gambling games are based on luck. Including poker and sports betting,
both do require skill, but skill will not give you permanent wins. Skills in poker and sports betting will only open up the opportunity to get much
bigger wins, but the end result of luck is also needed. So why is it that when betting in sports, sometimes experience failure when betting on a strong
team, because gambling requires luck.

[semobo]

I agree that both games requires deep analyzing skills but its rare to see someone become master of both games because either they will choose one and wants to be a master at it, so these are just coincidence in my opinion because they got luck on their side so they able to win even the giveaways and other contents which chooses the random players.

The luck factor accompanies their victory because every analysis will not have precise accuracy and even the analysis does not work well according to predictions, bets are very tied to luck such as guessing soccer bets with a strong club choice but not always winning from every match.

In sport betting, if there a strong and weak team competing then almost everyone know which one is going to win so the odds will be very small means not really worth the risk for our money but in case if it goes wrong then the sportbook will take all the money. The sport betting will become more interesting when the odds are high since the teams are equally strong and the result will be highly unpredictable.

[Fesatmas]

I am not understand yet with poker and waste my time with sport betting exactly with football match, do not know how rule and how to play on poker gambling because not understand yet game play. Almost last year each week end only active on sport gambling specially with football match, I know almost football team on always update with team before match begin, so know which one club can to put betting or not and how much odds giving is most interested to play.

Don't try to bet if you don't understand it correctly, bet on gambling that if you can control 50% because the rest we also rely on luck. No one bets with 100% accuracy, therefore you can win at poker games if you get lucky even if you don't feel like you're in control. There are a lot of gambling that you can choose from, so use it as another alternative, Poker doesn't smell like you have to stop gambling right?

[robelneo]

The "sample size" is too small for the "survey" 
The fact that some people are more active, pretty good at poker and got lucky once at sports betting doesn't prove much 
I don't think that there's any correlation. The main link is probably their activity.

I agree with your opinion, 30 people don't prove that it correlates, there have to be more poker players participating to get a clear view if there is indeed a connection, but on my observation, there could be a correlation because these two activities, both needs analysis, and comparison of past events but like what I posted 30 people can't prove that it is a fact.

[chaser15]

The reason may be that they do dedicate lots of time to follow the sports and the cards tournaments and they are able to find opportunities hidden in the sand.

And there are really people that have lots of skills in several gambling games, of different types. It's just that these people take advantage of it so they participate in those events where they have knowledge. Luckily and fortunately, they have won.

It's not that surprising that we see people like that. They just take the opportunity to win since after all, they have knowledge that can assist them to win.

[Silberman]

Just take it as a pinch of salt.

There are users who have an idea of how to play in different game types. You also have that skills, OP. If those users can do Poker and Sports betting, you can also do both at the same time but on other game types. For me, I can also do both Sports betting and Poker but it's just that, I'm more comfortable betting in Sports betting.

To end my statement, there's no correlation between Poker and sports betting. The same skills were just applied.

I find your final statement to be kind of confusing, you say that there is no correlation between the two gambling games and then you say that the same skills were applied, doesn't that hints to a correlation between the games? Because at least to me it does, both games have to do with trying to predict outcomes and the chances that you have of winning each bet that you make, that makes the game similar enough that allows gamblers to more easily master each game as they are using similar skills.

[magneto]

My opinion on it is just luck. When the same person or account can win in two different tournaments about poker and sports, of course they have the skills to play both. But still, in my view for example there was me for two different tournaments and winning them, I still think it was luck. Since it's very possible that I'll only get it once and not be able to repeat it again and again from time to time, unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

Yeah, most of it is definietly luck.

However, poker and sportsbetting are actually one of the few areas in which skill actually matters. A good poker player has a very sizeable edge over a non-expert, and tipsters can generate positive EV over the long run if they know what they are doing.

Anyhow, I would say that there are certainly some overlap in terms of calculating EV, but this is only even relevant for really professional, high level players. Not everyday retail players.

[Betwrong]

unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.

Sports betting is one of the forms of gambling that involves skills, but it is called "gambling", nevertheless, because "Gambling is the wagering something of value on an event with an uncertain outcome with the intent of winning something else of value.". Sounds familiar? Yeah, because that's what can be said about sports betting.

And I completely disagree with you regarding poker. Poker is based on luck only partially. Many people say that poker is a game with 80% of skill and 20 % of luck, and I personally think that luck plays bigger role in poker, but no way you can say that "poker is based on luck" without mentioning skill at all.

[dustboy]

unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.

Sports betting is also a gambling, isn't it? Your statement sounds like that sports betting is not a gambling at all and your skills on it will be the one thing that affect the result. Skills and Luck are involved in both poker and sports betting. You may say poker is a luck based game only if you play it blindly without any skills, or in other words you play it like doing "all in" all the time with any cards on your hand.

[Oasisman]

~snip~

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.

Lol, did you seriously think being lucky alone in poker guarantee you a win? Poker requires skills, strategy, and experience. Poker is not like Dice where you are purely depending on your luck. Even If you are lucky in having a nice pair of hands in poker If you are easily bluffed by your opponent, there's no way you can win the game.
Sports betting and poker requires different type of skills, analysis, strategy, and experience.
Again, poker is different from any pure-luck based gambling games.

[AicecreaME]

I don't think so.

A lot of people in sports betting are just betting without doing any research to make their chances of winning big but instead relying on their luck and randomly making bets while in poker, it's the exact opposite. You need to count cards, to be able to predict more accurate your opponents card if you're that good in poker.

Sports betting is like DICE in my opinion, unless you'll take it seriously while Poker is a skill-based game that requires a lot of talent to have a win streak.

[michellee]

unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

There are no steady wins in games and both poker and sports are games except for the ways they are played. Skill might be considered in sports but winnings are not always guaranteed especially two equal teams playing but poker is gambling and gambling is based on luck. So I agree to luck for  gambling and skill for sports.

Sports betting is also a gambling, isn't it? Your statement sounds like that sports betting is not a gambling at all and your skills on it will be the one thing that affect the result. Skills and Luck are involved in both poker and sports betting. You may say poker is a luck based game only if you play it blindly without any skills, or in other words you play it like doing "all in" all the time with any cards on your hand.

Sports betting is also gambling because if that is related to money, that consider to gambling. But if you are just guessing what team or player will win on the game without money involved, that is not gambling but will depend on your skills to collect as much data as you can. Yes, skills and luck are involved in both sports betting and poker and if you can have better information about that, you can have a chance to win. If you do not have many skills in poker and only play randomly and suddenly, you win, that will be you are in the luck moment. And that will be the same if you place in the sports betting.

[Silberman]

My opinion on it is just luck. When the same person or account can win in two different tournaments about poker and sports, of course they have the skills to play both. But still, in my view for example there was me for two different tournaments and winning them, I still think it was luck. Since it's very possible that I'll only get it once and not be able to repeat it again and again from time to time, unless I can keep getting wins in every tournament continuously, then it's definitely a matter of skill. But if it's won only occasionally and not continuously, then I consider it just luck though indeed, I also believe in skill but it won't be perfect without luck.

Yeah, most of it is definietly luck.

However, poker and sportsbetting are actually one of the few areas in which skill actually matters. A good poker player has a very sizeable edge over a non-expert, and tipsters can generate positive EV over the long run if they know what they are doing.

Anyhow, I would say that there are certainly some overlap in terms of calculating EV, but this is only even relevant for really professional, high level players. Not everyday retail players.

It is true that the professionals are the ones that can take the most advantage out of the few games in which skill can play a factor in gambling games but even a newbie can improve enough to make a difference in his results, not enough to become a winner but enough to allow him to keep playing for longer and lose less money while enjoying more their gambling hobby, however this takes effort and very few people want to exert themselves when it comes to their hobbies.

[Alisha-k]

The reason may be that they do dedicate lots of time to follow the sports and the cards tournaments and they are able to find opportunities hidden in the sand. Perhaps rather than a direct correlation, which could also be possible as everything in betting entails a certain ability to assess the chances and probabilities of events happening, is more about being in the "profession" of predicting and making money out of it. I would say that, in general, skills are specific for the prediction and generalist in the calculation abilities.

You have a big point here "dedication" towards both games which will help you develop strategies that might play out most times. But there are no correlations between both because both are two different games entirely. Probability remains the underlying element that can bring both games under the same atmosphere that would make one feel both correlate.

[aioc]

Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:

I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

What are your thoughts on this, guys?

It's just an observation but we have no established fact that if you are good in poker you are good in sports betting, you get one scenario but one scenario cannot prove and establish the fact, it could be a coincidence, it needs a serious study to establish that, but poker and sports betting needs analysis that is the only correlation, but that does not establish a fact.

[hahay]

The reason may be that they do dedicate lots of time to follow the sports and the cards tournaments and they are able to find opportunities hidden in the sand. Perhaps rather than a direct correlation, which could also be possible as everything in betting entails a certain ability to assess the chances and probabilities of events happening, is more about being in the "profession" of predicting and making money out of it. I would say that, in general, skills are specific for the prediction and generalist in the calculation abilities.

You have a big point here "dedication" towards both games which will help you develop strategies that might play out most times. But there are no correlations between both because both are two different games entirely. Probability remains the underlying element that can bring both games under the same atmosphere that would make one feel both correlate.

Winning both different tournaments at the same time I don't think it has anything to do with strategy, but if it's about luck then maybe. About dedication, of course, many people dedicate their time to gambling but unfortunately, not all of them are as lucky as the winner of the tournament so I personally still think it is about luck that happens simultaneously.

[RealMalatesta]

Today seeing the results of the Sportsbet.io ⚽ Brazil v Spain prediction game:

I noticed that all the guys in the top 3 were at some point participating in the Bitcointalk Poker Series. Now, it's not that a lot of people were participating there, somewhere around 30 ppl max, so I started wondering is there a correlation.

I do not think that they are even remotely close. I understand that they are neither set fixed results, for example dice is like that, it is automatic and robotic and you gamble that way, the only relation between poker and sports is the fact that it is not like that and you have to wait for the result. However, the "skills" involved are not the same, they are different and you can't be further apart than these two.

In poker you have to learn the game and practice and be better at it, there are many different approaches to it, in sportsbetting you have to just watch the games and become a good fan that knows which team is which and so forth. I would say that no great poker player would suddenly become a great sportsbettor overnight, those skills are not transferable like that and it would not work.

[Saint-loup]

The reason may be that they do dedicate lots of time to follow the sports and the cards tournaments and they are able to find opportunities hidden in the sand. Perhaps rather than a direct correlation, which could also be possible as everything in betting entails a certain ability to assess the chances and probabilities of events happening, is more about being in the "profession" of predicting and making money out of it. I would say that, in general, skills are specific for the prediction and generalist in the calculation abilities.

You have a big point here "dedication" towards both games which will help you develop strategies that might play out most times. But there are no correlations between both because both are two different games entirely. Probability remains the underlying element that can bring both games under the same atmosphere that would make one feel both correlate.

In gambling, probability is not just a small underlying element like you said. It's the key of the success in gambling. If you are mastering the probabilities of the game, you are already ahead of most of noobs taking part in the game even if you're in a bad luck day.