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August 13, 2021, 01:17:13 AM
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Yes, the reality is that humanity is composed by a bunch of sheep which blindy follow the rulers' orders. But in my opinion, the greatest value Bitcoin brings to mankind is to liberate humanity’s mind and no longer be influenced by inherent concepts Bondage. Before the birth of Bitcoin, most people could only obey the decision of the ruler and did not know how to resist. But when Bitcoin is born, more and more group ideologies will be awakened. They will pursue true equality and freedom. This is what I have always said about Bitcoin thinking and Bitcoin consensus. As the Bitcoin consensus continues to expand around the world, voices pursuing freedom, transparency, and equality will far outweigh conservative voices.
Maybe my height is not enough. I don't understand Bit Civilization.
What I know is that Bitcoin has changed our payment methods, giving us freedom of thought and freedom of payment.
I haven't seen anything else you said yet.
That is enough if you only know that bitcoin can change our payment methods. There is more complexity inside bitcoin itself but as a regular user who uses bitcoin for a transaction or a way to make money, you can skip that part and still use bitcoin as you want.

Maybe it can build a new civilization, as @OP says, but I do not know much either. Besides that, we are still new in the bitcoin world and many things need to prepare.

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August 13, 2021, 01:28:16 AM
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Yes, I agree with you. Bitcoin is an important starting point in the life of mankind. In every era, a new invention appears that changes the course of human civilization. I think that Bitcoin is the invention of this era that will change the course of human civilization. Yes, Satoshi made a very dangerous turn and revolution in all the corrupt systems that It was prevalent in the past times, Bitcoin moved us from centralization, control and tyranny to freedom, transparency and privacy, you get real freedom when you get your financial freedom and this is what Satoshi gave us and made it within the reach of every human being.


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August 13, 2021, 01:45:20 AM
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You seem to have the inclination to religiously praise Bitcoin for what it is not. I guess we should desist from treating Bitcoin more than what it actually is. With that being said, I don't think Bitcoin is a civilization. If anything, it's simply a product of a civilization which is technologically developing through time. And it is not everything there is to civilization. It is a mere financial tool which is meant to provide ease and convenience and possibly financial independence.

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August 13, 2021, 02:25:23 AM
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You seem to have the inclination to religiously praise Bitcoin for what it is not. I guess we should desist from treating Bitcoin more than what it actually is. With that being said, I don't think Bitcoin is a civilization. If anything, it's simply a product of a civilization which is technologically developing through time. And it is not everything there is to civilization. It is a mere financial tool which is meant to provide ease and convenience and possibly financial independence.

Thank you for your wonderful reply. I understand what you mean, and I will continue to explain my point of view here. Yes, as you said, I continue to praise Bitcoin, because the more I know about Bitcoin, the more I feel its greatness. In our view, Bitcoin is a financial tool that gives us freedom of wealth. However, I think it is not only Bitcoin itself that is not important, but also the thought that Bitcoin represents. These thoughts were born from the creation of Bitcoin. Decentralization, freedom, equality, transparency, fairness, privacy, harmony, etc., are all brought to us by Bitcoin, allowing us to truly achieve freedom. With these thoughts of Bitcoin, we have created a prosperous crypto world on the basis of Bitcoin. The crypto world is transforming the traditional world. In my opinion, the crypto world is creating a new human civilization, which is based on the thought of Bitcoin. So I call it a bit civilization. Real encryption projects are all decentralized and follow the thought of Bitcoin.

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August 13, 2021, 03:59:57 AM
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I also pondered on this topic. We are on planet Earth already as representatives of at least the sixth human civilization. Now we have irrefutable evidence that many thousands of years ago, the inhabitants of the Earth already went out into the near-earth space and even battles took place there, while technologies and substances were used that our civilization still does not have. We also have confirmation that many millennia ago, nuclear weapons were also used on Earth. That is, almost all the inventions of the current human civilization have already been invented before us, and perhaps even more than once and with different versions of their existence.
Therefore, the question arises: if digital cryptocurrency is so important for human civilization, why do we not find anything like this in our previous civilizations? Or is it just that such information about this has not been preserved, since it is more of a virtual plane than a material one and it is more difficult for it to be preserved for the next civilizations?
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August 13, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
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I also pondered on this topic. We are on planet Earth already as representatives of at least the sixth human civilization. Now we have irrefutable evidence that many thousands of years ago, the inhabitants of the Earth already went out into the near-earth space and even battles took place there, while technologies and substances were used that our civilization still does not have. We also have confirmation that many millennia ago, nuclear weapons were also used on Earth. That is, almost all the inventions of the current human civilization have already been invented before us, and perhaps even more than once and with different versions of their existence.
Therefore, the question arises: if digital cryptocurrency is so important for human civilization, why do we not find anything like this in our previous civilizations? Or is it just that such information about this has not been preserved, since it is more of a virtual plane than a material one and it is more difficult for it to be preserved for the next civilizations?

Why can't we find encrypted information in our previous civilization? In my opinion, it is because we have not yet evolved to that stage. Perhaps in history, the earth’s civilization has gone through several reincarnations, until today we have come to a crossroads again. If mankind continues to fight endlessly, it is possible that a brand new nuclear war will completely destroy human civilization at this stage. Mankind must end internal struggles and establish a more fair and equal new order, so that human civilization can continue to evolve.


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August 13, 2021, 11:41:47 PM
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I understand how you can understand the relationship between Bitcoin and human civilization. If human civilization did not exist today, this bitcoin would not have any importance or dignity.The only reason we see Bitcoin today is because of human civilization.So I think that if there were no human civilization, there would be no existence of this bitcoin today, so this bitcoin and human civilization could not survive without each other.
i think saying that human civilization advancing is what led for bitcoin to exist, it is a good step forward i guess, because it is really successful right now (it still has a lot more to go from here) internet is a really big part of our civilization right now, and bitcoin and crypto in general is for sure one of many good things that people made on the internet, i actually believe one day we won't be using cash anymore and it would be just crypto or something similar, crypto could be a really big part of our civilization in the upcoming years.

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I understand how you can understand the relationship between Bitcoin and human civilization. If human civilization did not exist today, this bitcoin would not have any importance or dignity.The only reason we see Bitcoin today is because of human civilization.So I think that if there were no human civilization, there would be no existence of this bitcoin today, so this bitcoin and human civilization could not survive without each other.
i think saying that human civilization advancing is what led for bitcoin to exist, it is a good step forward i guess, because it is really successful right now (it still has a lot more to go from here) internet is a really big part of our civilization right now, and bitcoin and crypto in general is for sure one of many good things that people made on the internet, i actually believe one day we won't be using cash anymore and it would be just crypto or something similar, crypto could be a really big part of our civilization in the upcoming years.

Here, I want to emphasize that the civilization established by Bitcoin is fundamentally different from the existing civilization of mankind. The existing civilization of mankind is a civilization of centralized control, and the civilization established by Bitcoin is a civilization of decentralization. Human beings are now migrating from humanity governance to protocol governance. The prosperous crypto world we are now building is the predecessor of the bit civilization. The encrypted world is now formatting the existing traditional world step by step. Attract traditional people, organizations, companies, art, funds, etc. to the crypto world.

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Today’s challenge from Bitcoin as a plausible alternative currency depends on the superficially attractive notion that it is based on an inherently superior and more secure payment technology. The distributed ledger, or blockchain, offers a way of being absolutely secure about a transaction without the need for a central authority or bank as an arbitrator. It promises to replace electronic currency in traditional bank accounts just as surely as electronic transfers replaced paper money and as paper money succeeded gold and silver. It holds out the possibility of a major transformation in which the link between money and the state is broken. Libertarians celebrate the innovation as a way of shrinking state power; pariah states such as Venezuela and North Korea see it as a way of building an alternative to the international political order.

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August 14, 2021, 05:51:09 AM
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When Bitcoin was born, human civilization began to accelerate evolution, from centralization to decentralization, from the governance of human nature to the governance of protocols, from corrupt governance to transparent governance. Bitcoin is ushering us to a fairer, freer, and opener society, and the value of each of our human beings will be treasured and liberated.
It seems like you are confusing two separate concepts; Bitcoin and the Blockchain. Bitcoin runs on the block chain technology, but so does so many other currencies and protocols.
Bitcoin as a currency cannot provide transparency in governance or stop corruption, it's just a decentralized currency which is immutable, borderless and irreversible. It allows one the freedom to separate their finances from the government but cannot directly change government affairs.

I don't think that Bitcoin and blockchain are completely separate concepts.Actually Bitcoin cannot exist without the blockchain,which means that Bitcoin is equal to blockchain.On the other hand,the blockchain can exist without Bitcoin and can be used for multiple things,like storing information(which isn't a very cost effective solution).
The OP is clearly exaggerating the influence of Bitcoin over the human civilization.I think that less than 5% of the global population is using Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies,which isn't a lot.Maybe Bitcoin/blockchain technology will have a significant impact over the human civilization in the next few decades.

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I understand how you can understand the relationship between Bitcoin and human civilization. If human civilization did not exist today, this bitcoin would not have any importance or dignity.The only reason we see Bitcoin today is because of human civilization.So I think that if there were no human civilization, there would be no existence of this bitcoin today, so this bitcoin and human civilization could not survive without each other.
Also, bitcoin was born out of necessity, remember that the initial purpose of bitcoin was to be used for transaction and eliminate the middle man that is the banks. Remember that necessity is the mother of invention so the reason why there's bitcoin is because we see a need for it. Also, it's just a part of us as a civilization, there are more wonders that surpasses even bitcoin.

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August 14, 2021, 09:31:26 AM
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I understand how you can understand the relationship between Bitcoin and human civilization. If human civilization did not exist today, this bitcoin would not have any importance or dignity.The only reason we see Bitcoin today is because of human civilization.So I think that if there were no human civilization, there would be no existence of this bitcoin today, so this bitcoin and human civilization could not survive without each other.
Also, bitcoin was born out of necessity, remember that the initial purpose of bitcoin was to be used for transaction and eliminate the middle man that is the banks. Remember that necessity is the mother of invention so the reason why there's bitcoin is because we see a need for it. Also, it's just a part of us as a civilization, there are more wonders that surpasses even bitcoin.
Agree to this remember those days when the goal was to pay online with less fees, faster, and with the ability to track in realtime. Well, since we will continue to innovate in the future, bitcoin will most likely be there as well, whether as an investment, a means of online transactions, or a means of payment. However, for the time being, the majority of people regard bitcoin as an investment from which they will profit.
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August 14, 2021, 09:45:53 AM
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Cryptocurrency or also known as a popular crypto asset in Indonesia to be used as an investment. A number of crypto assets such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Tether, and Doge have skyrocketed in value since the beginning of this year and are profitable for their owners. The relationship between bitcoin and human civilization is now starting to be very close, bitcoin has given us a new civilization, but we need to know bitcoin is not can eliminate corruption in our country..

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August 14, 2021, 09:52:16 AM
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I understand how you can understand the relationship between Bitcoin and human civilization. If human civilization did not exist today, this bitcoin would not have any importance or dignity.The only reason we see Bitcoin today is because of human civilization.So I think that if there were no human civilization, there would be no existence of this bitcoin today, so this bitcoin and human civilization could not survive without each other.
Also, bitcoin was born out of necessity, remember that the initial purpose of bitcoin was to be used for transaction and eliminate the middle man that is the banks. Remember that necessity is the mother of invention so the reason why there's bitcoin is because we see a need for it. Also, it's just a part of us as a civilization, there are more wonders that surpasses even bitcoin.
Agree to this remember those days when the goal was to pay online with less fees, faster, and with the ability to track in realtime. Well, since we will continue to innovate in the future, bitcoin will most likely be there as well, whether as an investment, a means of online transactions, or a means of payment. However, for the time being, the majority of people regard bitcoin as an investment from which they will profit.
No one would ever forget if ever Bitcoin would be replaced by something better in the future but basing up on the current support and demand of Bitcoin then its really hard to tell that it would be gone anytime soon.

We do recognize its total relevance and benefits which the creator itself is just really aiming for that decentralized way payment system and pretty sure that he wasnt even expecting for this thing to become this big.

The support is enourmous and this is a revolutionary kind of invention which lots had been grateful that it did exist on the first place.We dont hold the future but its truly remarkable and we can somewhat presume
that it would last for more decades to come.

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August 14, 2021, 09:59:54 AM
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Cryptocurrency or also known as a popular crypto asset in Indonesia to be used as an investment. A number of crypto assets such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Tether, and Doge have skyrocketed in value since the beginning of this year and are profitable for their owners. The relationship between bitcoin and human civilization is now starting to be very close, bitcoin has given us a new civilization, but we need to know bitcoin is not can eliminate corruption in our country..
all of us respect crypto as Asset or investment material , so all of us who had been engaging in this currency knows that someday we will make profit insignificant to our capital.
also not only in indonesia but all over the world that has not banning crypto, because even those who had banning yet some of people still keeping their coins so what more in our country that has allowed the trading and holding?
si Bitcoin and the human civilization has good and better relationship maybe it is still questionable now but sooner it will not.

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August 14, 2021, 01:27:08 PM
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If everyone started and made any transaction using bitcoin, then satoshi Nakamoto's goal of creating bitcoin would be achieved. I think that currently, all bitcoin users are competing to take advantage of the moment to make a profit by creating markets, selling services, selling necessities of life, and so on. That makes bitcoin even more complicated. All charge a fee for the transaction, this means we pay 2x or more transaction fees, there is a possibility that bitcoin will be left as a means of payment or currency. Making the human relationship with bitcoin up and down. For those of us who in this forum already have a stronger relationship than those outside the community who still measure BTC assets into FIAT.

While realizing bitcoin as a global currency is very unlikely, hindered by the great interests of each country where we live, our countries have their own ambitions for reasons of "people's economic interests" and the creation of economic regulations that indirectly become a barrier to its development bitcoins. It took a long time to get bitcoin closer to humans as a whole.
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August 14, 2021, 05:07:45 PM
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Bitcoin toward human civilization is a sign that we are all still evolving regardless of the progress we made for the past million years. It is a sign of progress and innovation on how humans will make transactions in the future. Bitcoin was always mentioned as the future currency or in the New World Order's theory, it will be the very single currency the whole world will be using. Indeed, bitcoin's a new civilization and at the same time, a new generation where financial freedom and convenience can be assured so let us take advantage of the fact that we learned it earlier than other did because it will matter a lot in the future.
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August 15, 2021, 05:55:59 PM
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Cryptocurrency or also known as a popular crypto asset in Indonesia to be used as an investment. A number of crypto assets such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Tether, and Doge have skyrocketed in value since the beginning of this year and are profitable for their owners. The relationship between bitcoin and human civilization is now starting to be very close, bitcoin has given us a new civilization, but we need to know bitcoin is not can eliminate corruption in our country..
In developing countries like Indonesia, as you said, the existence of cryptocurrencies is only known by a few circles and is not evenly distributed. Bitcoin or other crypto assets are only commodity assets that can only be traded and must not be the main currency for payments.

Bitcoin or cryptocurrency provides a new civilization on how to transact and provides freedom and cannot be controlled by anyone. besides the transparency provided by cryptocurrencies makes state officials reluctant to use it because all transactions will be recorded without being able to be deleted. If applied, all data will be recorded and corruption can be resolved.
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August 16, 2021, 02:37:37 AM
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Cryptocurrency or also known as a popular crypto asset in Indonesia to be used as an investment. A number of crypto assets such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, Ripple, Tether, and Doge have skyrocketed in value since the beginning of this year and are profitable for their owners. The relationship between bitcoin and human civilization is now starting to be very close, bitcoin has given us a new civilization, but we need to know bitcoin is not can eliminate corruption in our country..
In developing countries like Indonesia, as you said, the existence of cryptocurrencies is only known by a few circles and is not evenly distributed. Bitcoin or other crypto assets are only commodity assets that can only be traded and must not be the main currency for payments.

Bitcoin or cryptocurrency provides a new civilization on how to transact and provides freedom and cannot be controlled by anyone. besides the transparency provided by cryptocurrencies makes state officials reluctant to use it because all transactions will be recorded without being able to be deleted. If applied, all data will be recorded and corruption can be resolved.

Yes, currently cryptocurrencies are only popular among a small group of people in a small group of countries. However, only this small group of people has already produced a huge amount of energy. At present, more and more people are awakening and are building a broader Bitcoin consensus. This is a very powerful force. A whole new human civilization is being built around Bitcoin.

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August 17, 2021, 06:10:08 AM
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Bitcoin is not a single single currency, but a global transfer system, this system is not controlled by anyone, fair objective, currency is actually the incentive mechanism for this system. Bitcoin is limited, you can store the value, Bitcoin is completely controlled by yourself, can avoid danger, bitcoin free circulation, objective neutral, is a real free currency and the world currency, Bitcoin brings a new society with a new society. Organize the form, subvert the original centralized power structure.
This kind of shock of thinking cognition is like a Newton discovered that there is a gravitational force, and Columbus discovered the new mainland.
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