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August 22, 2021, 09:31:58 AM
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but i was shocked to see the result of the match.
There was nothing shocking with the result if you watch the match without any bias to any fighter.

I already said before that the replacement fight could be dangerous for Manny because they didn't have enough time to prepare while Ugas team probably knows everything about him. I think that's one of the main reason why he lost. He couldn't really figure out his opponent.
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August 22, 2021, 09:37:59 AM
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Whether you are a big fan of Pacquiao (like me), a fan of Ugas or just a fan of boxing, I'm pretty sure that you will agree with the judge's decision in the fight.
I just hope that those who put their bet on PacMan will not feel any regret right now.

The fight isn't one sided but Ugas dominated in the second half of the match and that helped him to win the fight via Unanimous Decision (115-113, 116-112 and 116-112).
While watching the whole fight, these are I think 3 of the main reasons why Ugas won the fight.

1. Jabs - Ugas maximized and utilized his length and he is jabbing PacMan all throughout the game. Jab here Jab there. Most of them are hitting PacMan and that is points for the judges.
2. Impenetrable Defense - while watching the fight, I'm looking closely at how good Ugas is when it comes to defending. Yes there are some punches that are hitting him but his defense, huge arms and also his length helped him to got the victory.
3. Right Hooks - If you watched the whole fight, you will see some right hooks that seems to make Pacquiao back out or at least hurt him. The right hook that landed on him = points and that also helped him.

Overall, its a wonderful fight and a wonderful win by Ugas. If I will be the one who will answer if PacMan must retire already, I would say yes. He has nothing prove anymore. A future HOF, a legendary boxer, the only 8 division world champion. I think its time for him to hang his gloves and focus maybe on politics or focus on helping those young and talented boxers out there.

Ugas is now 4-0 when he is being put as a substitute. Not a huge thing but we can see that Ugas is still ready when he is being put as a substitute.

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August 22, 2021, 09:53:30 AM
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It was really a dominant win by Ugas, no doubt he wins by a big margin, even in my book.

That long reach was the big difference as Manny finds it difficult to get inside. He was trading punches, but Ugas is also finding his mark, and obviously, you can see the swelling in Manny's face.

Perhaps Pacquiao doesn't have the time to adjust to Ugas style, or it was ring rust. But no excuses, he lost this one very bad in my book.

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August 22, 2021, 09:54:11 AM
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but i was shocked to see the result of the match.
There was nothing shocking with the result if you watch the match without any bias to any fighter.

I already said before that the replacement fight could be dangerous for Manny because they didn't have enough time to prepare while Ugas team probably knows everything about him. I think that's one of the main reason why he lost. He couldn't really figure out his opponent.

Pacquiao if prepared for Spence style so provably he didn't read well the style and possible what Ugas can do in the ring but the one biggest factor I see why Pacquaio lost is speed and power since he totally lost that on this fight since we didn't see the same Pacquaio before since there's no totally speedy footwork shown and also seems he cannot knock off his opponent so for that I can say that he really need to retire while he's still have a good record.

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August 22, 2021, 10:06:06 AM
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but i was shocked to see the result of the match.
There was nothing shocking with the result if you watch the match without any bias to any fighter.

I already said before that the replacement fight could be dangerous for Manny because they didn't have enough time to prepare while Ugas team probably knows everything about him. I think that's one of the main reason why he lost. He couldn't really figure out his opponent.

That's another point but we can't also deny the fact that Manny is getting old and he doesn't have the same strength that he has when he was younger. I guess it's about time for him to quit boxing and just focus on politics. He told in his previous interviews that he wanted to retire, I guess that's already the right time for that.
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August 22, 2021, 10:40:16 AM
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Damn, PacMan was something.
He is 42 and he moves like that? He even said he was having a problem with a tight leg and yet he was still doing the side steps.
IMO, that was a good fight. Doesn't matter if he loses the match. He proved something, especially with Mayweather.

He didn't say anything about retiring so I think we will still witness his greatness if he decides for one more fight for a better ending.
I think he was not yet satisfied.
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August 22, 2021, 10:41:27 AM
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Both fighters surely do their best inside the ring, and both have a different advantage that is very visible throughout the fight, Yordenis Ugas face was swollen, while Manny Pacquiao has cuts and blood, and even though Pacquiao loses the fight it is still a magnificent performance his speed still visible but he now surely lack the power in getting a KO but it is still visible on Ugas face, it surely didn't really upset Pacquiao that much he doesn't need to prove anything here, Pacquaio at 43 and still have the caliber like this Errol Spence Jr. surely need to be afraid, and this may be the final fight for Manny Pacquiao so congrats to both men.
And I still admire his performance today, indeed he didn't win the match but his opponent didn't easily beat him a lot of his hard punches landed perfectly on Ugas' face, and in the last two rounds Manny struggled to knock his opponent down, unfortunately his strength is not the same anymore and 43 years old not an ideal age anymore for a boxer to keep fighting.

Well, I think many have surely noticed what damage have Pacman done to Ugas face, and even though his face turned into pulp the strike power of Pacquiao is not for a TKO/KO anymore, even though he has speed if he can not knock out or badly hurt his opponent, then I think it is really time for him to really retire,

It is likely to really give the WBA Welterweight title to Ugas and pass on the Torch to younger generation boxers in the Philippines like John Riel Casimero, Nonito Donaire, Donnie ‘Ahas’ Nietes,  and other younger more boxers to sprout on the legacy of this great champion.
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but i was shocked to see the result of the match.
There was nothing shocking with the result if you watch the match without any bias to any fighter.

I already said before that the replacement fight could be dangerous for Manny because they didn't have enough time to prepare while Ugas team probably knows everything about him. I think that's one of the main reason why he lost. He couldn't really figure out his opponent.
Manny has the skills to beat anyone even if he does not have much time to prepare. I think the problem here is Manny is getting old as well as not having time to study his opponent and that is why he lost the fight. You could see that he still has amazing movement and amazing hands but he couldn't keep it up and Ugas started to take over. It is a shame but I would like to see Manny retire and focus on his politician career before he gets hurt.
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August 22, 2021, 11:25:26 AM
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At least my prediction about this bout indeed happened , i am a long time supporter of Manny and no doubt i still  believe in His ability .

but this is different opponent from whom he had been expecting for almost a year, They study and train against Spence and all of a sudden in last minute it is Ugas that he will be fighting?

Ugas is eagerly looking for this chance of a lifetime , maybe all the day of His life watching Manny's movement and skills to counter in case time like this will happen and here it is , finally making His way to the top and maybe the very last boxer that Manny Pacquaio will face before retirement .

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August 22, 2021, 11:49:08 AM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.

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August 22, 2021, 11:53:24 AM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.
Do you think you would have won? Manny was training for Spence and while I do think Manny should have beaten Ugas even with short notice because he is one of the most talented boxers around I do think Manny would have beaten Spence because he was already training for him and it is clear that he still has the skills. I do not think Manny lost this fight because it was short notice at least that being the sole reason I think it was a combination of taking it on short notice and not being able to train for his opponent and him getting older and slowing down in the later rounds. I think if he was fighting Spence he would have known when to engage and would have saved energy then his age would not play such a big part in the fight like it did yesterday.
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August 22, 2021, 11:54:34 AM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.

Pacquiao did not adjust, that's the problem he faced in the fight and he admitted it, the style used by Ugas was the same style Marquez did when he beat Manny Pacquiao and knock out him cold. Congratulations to Ugas, I also did not bet on him but it's okay, at least I enjoy the fight and possibly the last fight of the 8th division world world champion.

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August 22, 2021, 11:59:31 AM
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at least I enjoy the fight and possibly the last fight of the 8th division world world champion.
I hope it is Manny's last fight. I love him as a boxer and he is probably one of the best of all time but it is clear that he is losing his ability / fitness in the later rounds. He has a very good record and it is always sad to see these legends pick up unnecessary losses on their record because they do not know when to give up the sport. All the legends Tyson and Ali went on for longer than they should have and ended up picking up these losses on their record. The only one that has not in recent memory is Floyd Mayweather but he is playing it smart fighting Youtubers. 
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August 22, 2021, 12:04:26 PM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.

Pacquiao did not adjust, that's the problem he faced in the fight and he admitted it, the style used by Ugas was the same style Marquez did when he beat Manny Pacquiao and knock out him cold. Congratulations to Ugas, I also did not bet on him but it's okay, at least I enjoy the fight and possibly the last fight of the 8th division world world champion.

It was a worthy fight and I hope Pacquiao will find the strength to end his career after this fight. I will be sorry if Pacquiao continues to play in the ring and suffers crushing knockout defeats (as for example, I think it would be in the case of a fight with Spence). The art of leaving in time to leave a good memory of yourself is very important, it would be a shame if Pacquiao followed the path of Roy Jones Jr., who at the end of his career spent many unnecessary vague fights and ruined the impression of himself.

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August 22, 2021, 12:07:30 PM
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at least I enjoy the fight and possibly the last fight of the 8th division world world champion.
I hope it is Manny's last fight. I love him as a boxer and he is probably one of the best of all time but it is clear that he is losing his ability / fitness in the later rounds. He has a very good record and it is always sad to see these legends pick up unnecessary losses on their record because they do not know when to give up the sport. All the legends Tyson and Ali went on for longer than they should have and ended up picking up these losses on their record. The only one that has not in recent memory is Floyd Mayweather but he is playing it smart fighting Youtubers. 
Manny's power is already gone, he is not strong as he was before that's why Ugas is very confident in fighting him toe to toe. The counter punch of Ugas is effective, most especially his jabs, and I am one of the many who underestimated him but I admit, Ugas is a smart fight, hence very dangerous to fight him in the ring.

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August 22, 2021, 12:13:48 PM
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Lets admit the reality that Ugas is stronger, younger and even faster than Pacquiao .. this fight really deserves for Him to win.

The Man is looking for this kind of Fight , facing the legendary Boxer is a privilege , imagine that you will have the opportunity fighting the most popular boxing now, and the best part is that he beat the 8 division champion.


For Manny pacquiao , Please Retire in boxing and just focus in your new career in which Politics.

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August 22, 2021, 12:20:53 PM
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Lets admit the reality that Ugas is stronger, younger and even faster than Pacquiao .. this fight really deserves for Him to win.

The Man is looking for this kind of Fight , facing the legendary Boxer is a privilege , imagine that you will have the opportunity fighting the most popular boxing now, and the best part is that he beat the 8 division champion.


For Manny pacquiao , Please Retire in boxing and just focus in your new career in which Politics.

That is true. Ugas controlled the fight all throughout with his dangerous jabs and longer reach. While Pacquiao, at age 42, still moves with bliss and finesse, you can really see that age made a huge difference in this fight. You can clearly see that his technique and skill are indicative of his years of boxing, but his overall endurance cost him the fight at the latter stages.

Again, it is truly a privilege to see and witness a boxing legend in his last fight. Despite his loss, he still made a testament to the boxing world that only Pacquiao can do what he does and I doubt that a person could ever repeat his record in boxing.

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August 22, 2021, 12:21:04 PM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.

Spence had a better chance, but still I would not be 100% sure. I made a bet in favor of Thurman a couple of years ago, and I lost. Now I would be very cautious before making a bet against Manny Pacquaio. Spence on paper looks like the perfect opponent for Pacquaio. He is in his prime age, and has an unbeaten record. But Yordenis Ugas? To be honest he doesn't even have 1% chance of winning a fight against Manny. I would not consider betting in his favor, even if the odds are greater than 10.
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August 22, 2021, 12:46:47 PM
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After this fight, I regret even more about canceling the fight with Spence - I was going to bet on Spence and obviously I would have won. I did not dare to bet on Ugas, although the odds for his victory were attractive. I think the result of this fight is another confirmation that the bookmakers are trying to catch the mood of the crowd and squeeze out the odds according to this, and not according to the real forces of the opponents. The odds on both of Pacquiao's opponents were seriously overestimated and it was profitable to bet on them.

Spence had a better chance, but still I would not be 100% sure. I made a bet in favor of Thurman a couple of years ago, and I lost. Now I would be very cautious before making a bet against Manny Pacquaio. Spence on paper looks like the perfect opponent for Pacquaio. He is in his prime age, and has an unbeaten record. But Yordenis Ugas? To be honest he doesn't even have 1% chance of winning a fight against Manny. I would not consider betting in his favor, even if the odds are greater than 10.

We can't say who will win in that fight if it happened. The sudden change of opponent made Pacquiao look bad as he was not able to prepare for the style of Ugas, we can tell that his strategy was not effective because he is not hitting Ugas like what he did to Thurman in his last fight.

I guess if he will not retire, he can still get a big fight as Ugas is willing to give him a rematch.

Yordenis Ugas willing to give Manny Pacquiao a rematch: 'A legend like that deserves it

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August 22, 2021, 12:54:39 PM
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Lets admit the reality that Ugas is stronger, younger and even faster than Pacquiao .. this fight really deserves for Him to win.

The Man is looking for this kind of Fight , facing the legendary Boxer is a privilege , imagine that you will have the opportunity fighting the most popular boxing now, and the best part is that he beat the 8 division champion.


For Manny pacquiao , Please Retire in boxing and just focus in your new career in which Politics.

Will Manny pacquiao admit it ? Will he be willing to quit his boxing career now at this moment ? I think No. I think as with most of these matches, we may hear a re-match call from Manny Pacquiao ? I am not saying that he will win in a re-match but its only for the marketing purpose and for the belief of his fans that this is not the end for Manny Pacquiao.

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